Guild Wars 2

Dhampyr.2104:

saiyr.3071:

Dhampyr.2104:

Oozo.7856:

Acelerion.6820:

Does kaining run any small group stuff or is it all for the realm business?

Kaineng on an individual basis is one of the least skilled servers we have gone up against. Maguuma is much better in terms of individual skill overall.

But, what Kaineng has that Maguuma doesn’t are multiple no-skill 30-40 mobile guild zergballs. And, they’ve picked up even more of this cheese in the last couple of days.

Your face. No U.

Good one

Sorry, deleted the original. Started to type a response, then realized I’m tired of responding to “Kaineng sucks” posts. So, it turned into that. ;-)

Ha, fair enough. I’ll admit I chuckled a little.

Archer.1658:

Kaineing has a lot more people, but Maguuma has the a good amount of numbers + good open combat skills which Kaineing lacks.

I find it a little offputting that Ehmry Bay has found a server that they would bet against vs Maguuma. :P

saiyr.3071:

Dhampyr.2104:

saiyr.3071:

Dhampyr.2104:

Oozo.7856:

Acelerion.6820:

Does kaining run any small group stuff or is it all for the realm business?

Kaineng on an individual basis is one of the least skilled servers we have gone up against. Maguuma is much better in terms of individual skill overall.

But, what Kaineng has that Maguuma doesn’t are multiple no-skill 30-40 mobile guild zergballs. And, they’ve picked up even more of this cheese in the last couple of days.

Your face. No U.

Good one

Sorry, deleted the original. Started to type a response, then realized I’m tired of responding to “Kaineng sucks” posts. So, it turned into that. ;-)

Ha, fair enough. I’ll admit I chuckled a little.

Archer.1658:

Kaineing has a lot more people, but Maguuma has the a good amount of numbers + good open combat skills which Kaineing lacks.

I find it a little offputting that Ehmry Bay has found a server that they would bet against vs Maguuma. :P

Heres the deal. Ehmry Bay has always shined when it comes to individual skill and open combat. We have just always lacked the numbers. I may dislike Maguuma, but I admit out of any server I’ve faced they have have some great skills. Now that you guys have even more people, I am sure you’d put Kaineing into the ground given the chance. Let me reiterate the past couple days vs Kaineing.

Me: Strolling, killing off bad kaineing lalalala
Me: Shrieks KAINEING ZERG OF 40+ INC RUN RUN RUn (impossible im a guardian)
Kaineing: Hey we killed you 40v1 but will still laugh and dance on your body. (true story, even got screenshots and I invited a one of them to party).
Me: Afk eating dinner.

It is difficult to judge the skill of a total server, especially when the only things you have to take are camps on random maps. We have alot of pvper that are not doing much WvW because of that. The first 24hrs of this match only showed you the coverage that our server has. The majority of the pvpers were doing WvW during that time. Now it is just about going to random camps, stopping breakouts or retaking towers making sure we are at 695 during varies times of the day.

Ulion.5476:

It is difficult to judge the skill of a total server, especially when the only things you have to take are camps on random maps. We have alot of pvper that are not doing much WvW because of that. The first 24hrs of this match only showed you the coverage that our server has. The majority of the pvpers were doing WvW during that time. Now it is just about going to random camps, stopping breakouts or retaking towers making sure we are at 695 during varies times of the day.

How ironic, maybe if you didn’t run in zergs, you could test those supposed “skills” you have.

What I’ve picked up from this thread is that kaineng sucks, wm sucks, servers that beat us sucks because they’re zerglings, etc.
Well we won’t really know how the Mag and KC showdown will turn out until it happens.
Im sure both servers have good pvp’ers, every server have good players actually. It’s just that in the higher tiers, it’s a constant tactical battle of moving armies, moves and counter-moves, and small havoc squads creating diversions. That’s the bread and butter of high tier wvw. It might look mindless to the uninitiated and for those “zerglings” going along for the ride, but it’s the opposite for the good commanders and people in the know leading the charge. In the lower tiers, where you harp on about “individual skill this, individual skill that, you only beat us cos you got numbers, etc.” Well in the higher tiers where battles almost go on for the whole day with little room to breath in between fights, the mentality is different, it’s more about looking at the big picture; the countless good fights are just a result of that mentality. And there are as many if not more skilled players roaming in those fights than what you have seen in your entire wvw experience.
On topic, as of now, and this is just my personal observation and opinion, kaineng has good pvp’ers. Though the general wvw population is a work in progress, the ceiling is high for improvement. What’s going for kaineng is that they’re learning from some of the best and experienced wvw commanders with extensive experience in T1; as a side note, they also have the best commander from sbi in the server.

I don’t think WM is the biggest guild on Kaineng. RE is probably the biggest now with merge.
When I was on FC fighting against Kaineng pugs, a lot of them were really easy to kill! Seems we will fight YB and DB next. GL TO US! T^T

As others have stated, Kaineng has the numbers but abysmal personal skill. Even those who you would think be decent are just trash, aka some WM commander with the sniper rifle. To put it simply, whenever I come across a Kaineng player I assume s/he is a glass cannon baddie. Whereas whenever I came across a Maguuma player I assumed I would be in for a good fight.

Prediction of kain vs mag (assuming numbers stay the same): An opener dominated by Maguuma giving Maguuma a large early lead. A night where Kain claws back its territory and some of the other two servers. Barely making up the initial point differential though. Maguuma starts coming back in force and contains kain to their BL and third of EB. For the rest of the week it is Maguuma maintaining a +100 over kain during NA primetime for the first week day and increasing for each subsequent week day while Kain is able to keep a +150 over Mag during the 5 hour asian primetime. The score by the end of the week will be a convincing Maguuma victory.

Archer.1658:

How ironic, maybe if you didn’t run in zergs, you could test those supposed “skills” you have.

Well I did not mention anything about my skill in the previous post. Normally I am one of the players that goes around soloing camps. WvW is not about have an equally match 5v5 or 10v10 fight it is more about which server can control the most bases for a 24hr period of time. We do have fight nights against servers we have already won against. This is so we will have something to do in WvW other than camps and for player to see others skills.

Um, did I miss something or is Mag scheduled to face FA and CD while Kaineng faces DB and YB at reset?

Gorefiend.9675:

As others have stated, Kaineng has the numbers but abysmal personal skill. Even those who you would think be decent are just trash, aka some WM commander with the sniper rifle. To put it simply, whenever I come across a Kaineng player I assume s/he is a glass cannon baddie. Whereas whenever I came across a Maguuma player I assumed I would be in for a good fight.

Prediction of kain vs mag (assuming numbers stay the same): An opener dominated by Maguuma giving Maguuma a large early lead. A night where Kain claws back its territory and some of the other two servers. Barely making up the initial point differential though. Maguuma starts coming back in force and contains kain to their BL and third of EB. For the rest of the week it is Maguuma maintaining a +100 over kain during NA primetime for the first week day and increasing for each subsequent week day while Kain is able to keep a +150 over Mag during the 5 hour asian primetime. The score by the end of the week will be a convincing Maguuma victory.

This is probably pretty close to dead-on how I think the match will go although the other server and the solid guilds we have picked up over the weeks are the big variables here. WaR demolishes zergs in open field and SM likes to “Occupy” enemy borderlands, both guilds are quite good at this. It will take some effort to undo the damage caused by this

None of this makes sense.

Kain and Maguuma will not be a 1v1.

A server with a strong oceanic presence could nullify Kain’s oceanic hours.

Different 3rd servers might even beat both of us. It’s like someone said.. won’t know til we get there.

It’s amazing so many people are dismissing Kain as a contender so easily. So many bitter people in here.

fellyn.5083:

It’s amazing so many people are dismissing Kain as a contender so easily. So many bitter people in here.

What are your map queues like during NA and Oceanic primetimes? If you guys are able to run 50+ zergs on 2-3 maps during NA primetime then you should be fine in the higher tiers.

Haldunius.7864:

Um, did I miss something or is Mag scheduled to face FA and CD while Kaineng faces DB and YB at reset?

It will be another week before Mag and Kaineng possibly meet, however Kaineng will be in the same position as Mag is now in T4, vs YB and a depleted IoJ, so should be able to tell a lot about how they fare comparatively to this week.

Pendragon.8735:

Haldunius.7864:

Um, did I miss something or is Mag scheduled to face FA and CD while Kaineng faces DB and YB at reset?

It will be another week before Mag and Kaineng possibly meet, however Kaineng will be in the same position as Mag is now in T4, vs YB and a depleted IoJ, so should be able to tell a lot about how they fare comparatively to this week.

No. As things stand… Kain will face YB and DB in the next matchup.

Think this is where they prove if they are legit or not. Though it truly depends if Yaks get reversed bandwagoned before the 28th. Otherwise could just wind up as a DB and Kain matchup.

Ah right, was just going off his post. DB in the matchup will alter it a lot, as they will battle with Kaineng off peak.

YB will not disperse it has a solid committed core, and has received no fairweather bandwagoners who will keep jumping, but pop is down this week since its such a laugher.

fellyn.5083:

It’s amazing so many people are dismissing Kain as a contender so easily. So many bitter people in here.

Give them their space. WM, TL, CO, RUN, and NEO/others have something else coming to them.

In a few weeks when Kaineng is well on it’s way past these tiers, people will wonder where the heck we came from and who is organizing everything.

And we will smile. Until then, “talk” means nothing in these forums. Action and results makes up the only language here.

I’m pretty certain Kaineng will beat Maguuma when we eventually meet – however, there’s a reasonable chance that we will never meet them. If we draw or lose in t3 we will get demoted just as Kaineng gets promoted (essentially, they will take our place).

I’m not sure how paid server transfers will affect people bailing on a server when it starts to lose (hopefully people will still leave Maguuma when we lose) but with any luck it will balance us against the other t4 servers and give us some good matches when we return to that tier. Kaineng continues to rise and hits t2 and is out of our reach for the foreseeable future.

That’s my prediction. I really hope the other t3 servers are good enough to put the breaks on our snowballing because we used to be good at beating larger numbers with better co-ordination and I’d love to see us get back to that. Now we’re an extremely co-ordinated core surrounded by legions of glory chasers

It kinda takes the fun out of it.

Freelancer.4526:

fellyn.5083:

It’s amazing so many people are dismissing Kain as a contender so easily. So many bitter people in here.

Give them their space. WM, TL, CO, RUN, and NEO/others have something else coming to them.

In a few weeks when Kaineng is well on it’s way past these tiers, people will wonder where the heck we came from and who is organizing everything.

And we will smile. Until then, “talk” means nothing in these forums. Action and results makes up the only language here.

It’s pretty easy to figure out where a Kaineng player comes from. Find the latest abandoned server that sunk down to T7/T8.

Haters gonna hate.

Cliches gonna cliche

junglizm.5843:

Haters gonna hate.

Jah Gul Eth [FURY] – Kaineng (formerly Isle of Janthir)

heh.

Maguuma vs Kaineng – one considers glory chasing zergs a mark of shame, the other a badge of honour.

Who will win this clash of cultures?

Chalky.8540:

junglizm.5843:

Haters gonna hate.

Jah Gul Eth [FURY] – Kaineng (formerly Isle of Janthir)

heh.

Maguuma vs Kaineng – one considers glory chasing zergs a mark of shame, the other a badge of honour.

Who will win this clash of cultures?

I consider glory chasing zergs LOTS of badges of honor, actually.

Chalky.8540:

junglizm.5843:

Haters gonna hate.

Jah Gul Eth [FURY] – Kaineng (formerly Isle of Janthir)

heh.

Maguuma vs Kaineng – one considers glory chasing zergs a mark of shame, the other a badge of honour.

Who will win this clash of cultures?

My guild is 10 people, how many* is GOON?

junglizm.5843:

My guild is 10 people, how man is GOON?

Man enough to not hop servers after a few losing weeks.

Basically you need more Amn El Ith Tir Sol.

Archer.1658:

saiyr.3071:

Dhampyr.2104:

saiyr.3071:

Dhampyr.2104:

Oozo.7856:

Acelerion.6820:

Does kaining run any small group stuff or is it all for the realm business?

Kaineng on an individual basis is one of the least skilled servers we have gone up against. Maguuma is much better in terms of individual skill overall.

But, what Kaineng has that Maguuma doesn’t are multiple no-skill 30-40 mobile guild zergballs. And, they’ve picked up even more of this cheese in the last couple of days.

Your face. No U.

Good one

Sorry, deleted the original. Started to type a response, then realized I’m tired of responding to “Kaineng sucks” posts. So, it turned into that. ;-)

Ha, fair enough. I’ll admit I chuckled a little.

Archer.1658:

Kaineing has a lot more people, but Maguuma has the a good amount of numbers + good open combat skills which Kaineing lacks.

I find it a little offputting that Ehmry Bay has found a server that they would bet against vs Maguuma. :P

Heres the deal. Ehmry Bay has always shined when it comes to individual skill and open combat. We have just always lacked the numbers. I may dislike Maguuma, but I admit out of any server I’ve faced they have have some great skills. Now that you guys have even more people, I am sure you’d put Kaineing into the ground given the chance. Let me reiterate the past couple days vs Kaineing.

Me: Strolling, killing off bad kaineing lalalala
Me: Shrieks KAINEING ZERG OF 40+ INC RUN RUN RUn (impossible im a guardian)
Kaineing: Hey we killed you 40v1 but will still laugh and dance on your body. (true story, even got screenshots and I invited a one of them to party).
Me: Afk eating dinner.

I came from Ehmry Bay just recently, and I have noticed it is much less organized than I thought it would be. Running around with other people there made me feel a little unsafe since sometimes they couldn’t hold their own and would run and abandon me. Now that i’m in Kaineing I feel much better running if just with one other person since they seem to know what their doing much better (atleast the level 80 people ive ran around with). I think we do well on our own (individual skill wise and against the same number of enemies as we have our own).

zastari.1730:

Basically you need more Amn El Ith Tir Sol.

Flying in with the D2 reference. Did you know that offhand or have to look it up?

junglizm.5843:

Chalky.8540:

junglizm.5843:

Haters gonna hate.

Jah Gul Eth [FURY] – Kaineng (formerly Isle of Janthir)

heh.

Maguuma vs Kaineng – one considers glory chasing zergs a mark of shame, the other a badge of honour.

Who will win this clash of cultures?

My guild is 10 people, how many* is GOON?

Lots – and more importantly, we’ve been here since day one, along with a bunch of other excellent guilds. We stayed when we lost 4 weeks in a row and we stayed when we dropped down to tier 5. We gained transfers from excellent guilds who came to Maguuma from servers who were beating us because they liked the way we played.

Glory chasers come and go, but it’s the core guilds who don’t jump ship as at the first sign of a difficult match who make the lasting difference.

Getting loads of transfers comes with getting big slices of the score pie – but in Maguuma’s case, they’re a symptom of our success, not the cause, and when the transfers jump ship again we know we’ll still be a strong server with our native core of players.

My personal prediction is that Maguuma and Fort Aspenwood hold each other in T3 for one week, while Kaineng moves into T3. I think that two reset nights from now T3 is going to wake up to Fort Aspenwood vs Maguuma vs Kaineng, and whoever comes out on top of that will move into T2 and take SBI’s slot. I think SBI drops in two weeks, not next week. Feb 1st is going to be the day we start to solidify the tiers imo.

As to who is bigger or who is going to win, I don’t really think it matters. They’re going to be kicking the snot out of each other for a while.

Chalky.8540:

Glory chasers come and go, but it’s the core guilds who don’t jump ship as at the first sign of a difficult match who make the lasting difference.

IoJ never had a match that wasn’t difficult for pretty much all 16 of the weeks the server has been alive. It wasn’t the first sign of a difficult match. It was the 16th sign of a difficult match.

What is there to debate? I think it’s pretty obvious that Kaineng has more pugs than Maguuma does.

Ninein.4782:

Maguuma: 4 map queue reset, 2 map queue NA primetime, 0 map queue offhours
FA: 4 map queue reset, 3.5 map queue NA primetime, 1.5 map queue offhours

Kaineng can fill in the blank for comparison.

The FA part of this isn’t right, it’s more like:
3 map queue reset, 1, maybe 2 map queue NA prime, 0-1 map queue off hours. And even then queues are never longer than 15 minutes, except maybe on reset night.

Edit: queue is such a weird word.

junglizm.5843:

Chalky.8540:

Glory chasers come and go, but it’s the core guilds who don’t jump ship as at the first sign of a difficult match who make the lasting difference.

IoJ never had a match that wasn’t difficult for pretty much all 16 of the weeks the server has been alive. It wasn’t the first sign of a difficult match. It was the 16th sign of a difficult match.

Well, at least you stuck with it and didn’t qui.. oh.

I think Maguuma is going to T1 and beat Sea of Sorrows.

Maguuma will go to t3 and sit there. FA will go to t2. Kain will go to t2. Everyone will get off of Maguuma and stop making threads about us.

Oozo.7856:

Littlefeather.8623:

Oozo.7856:

Littlefeather.8623:

Oozo.7856:

Littlefeather.8623:

Oozo.7856:

Acelerion.6820:

Does kaining run any small group stuff or is it all for the realm business?

Kaineng on an individual basis is one of the least skilled servers we have gone up against. Maguuma is much better in terms of individual skill overall.

But, what Kaineng has that Maguuma doesn’t are multiple no-skill 30-40 mobile guild zergballs. And, they’ve picked up even more of this cheese in the last couple of days.

Thats a general blanket statement If I ever seen one ;p lol

Maguuma knows about RE already, and I can vouch that WM is top shelf WvW hands down. There are other great guilds I have seen, and some new ones which I have not seen as well. I will admit that Kaineng PUG’s can you a little bit of guidance, not for WvW, but for WvW in higher tiers is what I mean. But I can tell you, Kaineng PUG’s are willing and eager to learn.

We’ve beaten RE and WM is open field fights with comprable numbers on both sides. The only thing that has killed us are the 30+ man zergballs that Kaineng runs. We run a max of 15, but usually have 10 or less.

Oh not this again…lol

onesies and twosies dont count, on either side friend. I wont play tic for tac but I will say in higher tiers 30 man zergs are not big zergs at all, and 30 man zergs wont do anything to some of the zergs I have seen when I faced YB/CD/FA a while back. 10-15 man teams are great, but when faced in higher tiers those numbers are just loot bags in all honesty, sorry to be frank.

Yes, please proceed to the upper teirs where zerg groups can run around and autoattack their way to success. It’s an excellent place for zerglings to play together.

Please come to Fight Club when we host it Its a great PvP style event for every one. PvP skill wise, that is where we can showcase everything, but to win in WvW, numbers and coverage, those are key elements, sorry to say but 5-15 PvP experts can not win against 30+ man zergs in WvW.

PUG zergs, yes. Guild zergs, no. If we cared about server ranks we would have left DR a long time ago. We want balanced fights and although you aren’t personally responsible for the crap we’ve been getting – I’ll take it out on you, nonetheless.

It sounds like WvW isn’t for you. If you want even man odds then you want spvp. The only selling point of WvW’s pvp is that you can put together a complex group composition with a lot of moving parts.

Zoel.9154:

Oozo.7856:

Littlefeather.8623:

Oozo.7856:

Littlefeather.8623:

Oozo.7856:

Littlefeather.8623:

Oozo.7856:

Acelerion.6820:

Does kaining run any small group stuff or is it all for the realm business?

Kaineng on an individual basis is one of the least skilled servers we have gone up against. Maguuma is much better in terms of individual skill overall.

But, what Kaineng has that Maguuma doesn’t are multiple no-skill 30-40 mobile guild zergballs. And, they’ve picked up even more of this cheese in the last couple of days.

Thats a general blanket statement If I ever seen one ;p lol

Maguuma knows about RE already, and I can vouch that WM is top shelf WvW hands down. There are other great guilds I have seen, and some new ones which I have not seen as well. I will admit that Kaineng PUG’s can you a little bit of guidance, not for WvW, but for WvW in higher tiers is what I mean. But I can tell you, Kaineng PUG’s are willing and eager to learn.

We’ve beaten RE and WM is open field fights with comprable numbers on both sides. The only thing that has killed us are the 30+ man zergballs that Kaineng runs. We run a max of 15, but usually have 10 or less.

Oh not this again…lol

onesies and twosies dont count, on either side friend. I wont play tic for tac but I will say in higher tiers 30 man zergs are not big zergs at all, and 30 man zergs wont do anything to some of the zergs I have seen when I faced YB/CD/FA a while back. 10-15 man teams are great, but when faced in higher tiers those numbers are just loot bags in all honesty, sorry to be frank.

Yes, please proceed to the upper teirs where zerg groups can run around and autoattack their way to success. It’s an excellent place for zerglings to play together.

Please come to Fight Club when we host it Its a great PvP style event for every one. PvP skill wise, that is where we can showcase everything, but to win in WvW, numbers and coverage, those are key elements, sorry to say but 5-15 PvP experts can not win against 30+ man zergs in WvW.

PUG zergs, yes. Guild zergs, no. If we cared about server ranks we would have left DR a long time ago. We want balanced fights and although you aren’t personally responsible for the crap we’ve been getting – I’ll take it out on you, nonetheless.

It sounds like WvW isn’t for you. If you want even man odds then you want spvp. The only selling point of WvW’s pvp is that you can put together a complex group composition with a lot of moving parts.

Oh look someone who has never played sPvP

All these statements of who is skilled and who is not, who has more numbers, better tactics, bigger zergs is pathetic to be honest.

I am only excited to play against Kaineng due to [WM]. All i hear is good things about them and I for one would like to see that in action. As we also grew in numbers and our organization has climbed a lot since we got WAR from BP and SM from Ehmry. Some other small organized guilds too and with the Legion alliance Doing work on reset night have made a big difference. With that in mind we were able to Que up all 4 maps on reset. Something i personally never seen since i started WvW in maguuma as a commander.

I do not know how skilled, organized, and populated Kaineng is… But i do know what maguuma can do. So I am anxious to see this matchup take its course on reset night. For maguuma, reset night is the night we are most organized and ready to fight. Our spirits are hard to break. I have seen our server time after time on reset night get demolished before the transfers by yaks bend and ehmry in past weeks. But it is because of our spirits that we keep prevailing. And after a few hours in reset night we get a little momentum that will always make us pull away from the rest.

Now that we have more guilds in maguuma. We were able to focus the bigger threat server and keep them down to the ground. Breaking their moral during the weekend paving the way throughout the week.

I am not sure how we will fair against Kaineng when we get to face them. All I can really say is that I am excited for the matchup and so is my guild. I welcome a challenge any day. I do not like to hear excuses like “we lost because they have more numbers”. We lost because we lost end of story. But loses only will help us grow as a server.

For the lower tier servers… if you would just care to put up a fight, spam lions arch for more forces, show them resilience, you will see how worth it and satisfying it is to beat up on a bigger server.

As for this thread… time will only tell. Good luck to all.

Server populations are rapidly fluctuating, especially as the deadline approaches.

Ehmry, this isn’t the same Maguuma you all know. But who knows what it will be next week?

Assuming populations hold, I think the clash between the Mag and Kain juggernauts will be epic. Pity whoever is caught in the middle (although the new FA may be on par).

My prediction, having not seen Kaineng first hand yet: Kaineng will dominate during oceanic & asian hours, with Maguuma holding the edge during all other hours. Kaineng eeks out the win thanks to a larger PPT differential during their sweet spot.

I miss fighting against The Great Enemy (Ehmry Bay), if there ever was a server we have a rivalry with, it’s them.

I’m interested in this matchup. Loved fighting magumba back when we were on DH. We got a couple more WvW guilds this week and last so a real challenge should bring out all our numbers week long like on reset nights. I also expect to see more coming out on resets and sticking around for more than 2 hrs.

Kaineng would crush Maguuma. We’re getting this score in t4 because IoJ is nonexistant, and Yaks doesn’t know what’s going on. We have maybe FA’s pop at daytime, and half or less of any server in t3’s night time.

I still think FA should be on people’s radars instead of Mag – their gobbling up IoJ’s night time is a bigger game changer than Mag getting t6/t5 transfers. We’ll fight in t3 which should be mag’s new home.

Everyone ignoring Maguuman opinions ITT :P

Littlefeather.8623:

10-15 man teams are great, but when faced in higher tiers those numbers are just loot bags in all honesty, sorry to be frank.

This is extremely inaccurate. 10-15 people properly spec’d and working together can crash into pretty much any zerg I have seen from T2-T8. Now if the zerg had the same level of coordination and synergy as the 10-15 you are 100% correct, but I have yet to meet a zerg that was like that, regardless of tier. No question some guild zergs make this a lot tougher then others, but with proper timing 10-15 people can be a force to reckon with.

As for the OP my view is that Kaineng has better 24/7 coverage, and since WvW is pretty much about who has the best coverage, Kaineng should go higher then Maguuma.

I have to say, I have some respect for Maguuma in that they are actively discouraging guilds/people that play in NA prime from coming to their server. That is a big attitude difference when you compare it to some of the mega servers doing hour long blackouts so they can shove even more people onto an already full server, all in the name of progressing to top tier.

Time will tell how it shakes out.

Pinko.2076:

Yaks doesn’t know what’s going on.

Yaks knows what’s going on. We simply don’t have the coverage to compete with the new Maguuma. So, we’re currently logging on alts for the karma train, or simply foregoing WvW altogether.

Next week will likely be the same for us, since Kain and DB both will likely go after our targets before going after each other.

Good news is we have a solid core of WvW’ers and fewer bandwagoners. That’s good for the long term.

Niim.9260:

Littlefeather.8623:

10-15 man teams are great, but when faced in higher tiers those numbers are just loot bags in all honesty, sorry to be frank.

This is extremely inaccurate. 10-15 people properly spec’d and working together can crash into pretty much any zerg I have seen from T2-T8. Now if the zerg had the same level of coordination and synergy as the 10-15 you are 100% correct, but I have yet to meet a zerg that was like that, regardless of tier. No question some guild zergs make this a lot tougher then others, but with proper timing 10-15 people can be a force to reckon with.

I agree that PUG zergs can be thrown around like a ragdoll, but a guild that has been together from the start, uses vent, WvW focused and the ones who started Fight Club in WvW for GW2, well 10-15 people infront of our guild zerg puts a smile on my face lol. But yes I agree about your statement when it comes to PUG zergs.
Because even it was 40 on 40, I guarantee I would be the first one to charge in, I’d die yea but I love this stuff.

Good luck to all those recently population inflated servers like DB, Mag and Kain. It will be interesting to see if there is any mass exodus out when one of them loses. The expected longer queue times and unfortunate and inevitable more zerginess that will follow may also cause people to reconsider their moves to these servers.

Funny thing: I note a LOT of similarities in Kaineng and Maguuma. The “Core Kaineng” folks are used to losing…we were in T8 and the receiving ends of butt-whooping for the longest time. Despite this we fight, despite this we stand tall and are proud of who we are. The biggest 2 differences between Kaineng and Maguuma…
1) We welcome transfers of all types. Whether you’re a “Glory Seeker” or simply someone who wants to have good large-guild fights. We will help you learn, we will make you better…The only requirement is the willingness to learn.
2) We do not worship Lord Flame Ram the Mighty. I believe the Holy Weapon of Kaineng is probably the Treb. We put them in -RIDICULOUS- places…for absolutely no reason.

Also while some people say things like “WM is the only reason Kaineng is going up the ranks.”…They are only 1 small part of the reason. WM holds EB, that’s their home and their baby…outside of there? That’s “us”…the “us” being everyone else…What WM did was start a movement towards T1 that brought in new people hoping for the same thing, an attitude of “Let’s shoot for the top!” Myself…I just enjoy large-scale fights and tactics, but I also like small surgical strikes…so whether we end up at the top, the bottom, or the middle…I have no way to lose.

Xavi.6591:

Good luck to all those recently population inflated servers like DB, Mag and Kain. It will be interesting to see if there is any mass exodus out when one of them loses. The expected longer queue times and unfortunate and inevitable more zerginess that will follow may also cause people to reconsider their moves to these servers.

I hope the people who have a great dislike for zergs go to a t8-t7 server where they belong. One person thinking their making any noticeable difference soloing a Sentry point guard does not belong in higher tiers IMO. I know a lot of people (including my guildies) will troll me for this reply, but in my honest opinion; If you are not organized I just assume you are soloing moa birds your a part of the problem, part of the problem why I can not get two rams up. Or part of the problem why your server mates were wiped due to being outmanned due to those people who complain like a child “I dont like zergs” well, explain that to your server mates who just got wiped.