yes HoD were strong at release, but the game was very young, guilds and players have evolved, and they would have been beaten eventually as the skill cap evened out because all servers had full maps.
HoD was beaten eventually and all servers have the potential to have full maps 24/7 It’s up each individual server player base to enter WvW. All I know is for two months straight SoS were out in force with 40+ man groups on every map I was on steam rolling. Numbers get a little even, push comes to shove, 1vs2 finally happens, and SoS folded.
Fair weather WvW players are the bane of t1 servers.
I think the idea of numbers being even is contested atm. For as long as JQ players are going to claim they are even, SoS players are going to claim they are not (and vice versa). If the sources on the queues are even remotely correct (that JQ, during any time zone, has queues on more than two maps, I’d say the numbers on JQ are much higher than SoS because SoS doesn’t see queues on more than two maps outside of weekends and hasn’t done so for almost two months aside from exceptional days like the final transfer week).
I can understand why both sides want to establish one way or the other. JQ players want to be seen as winning because they are playing better (with even numbers), not because they are playing with more. To win with anything more than even numbers takes away from the achievement. SoS players want to justify part of their loss not because they were outplayed, but because they were out-manned.
At the end of the day this discussion becomes circular and affirmative statements about WvW populations are inflammatory and antagonising of the other server. It’s relevant to the match up, the numbers certainly matter, but each side is trying to frame the story in a different light, one as even numbers, the other as uneven numbers. I’ve seen JQ posters gloat at having superior numbers, I’ve seen most of the regulars claim they are even, most SoS posters either don’t want to partake in the numbers discussion or see them as uneven at the end of the transfer week.
As far as fair weather players go, enjoy them. At the end of transfers, JQ got the bandwagon crew. Every server has them (a lot of them are PvE players who dabble) but the ones who transfer went to JQ.
Blackgate has shown they Deserve to Be in Tier 1… I hope they are back up soon too bad Kaineng wasn’t going to T2 this next week that would have been a great matchup… SoR T1? We’ll see how that goes for ya Good Luck….
What exactly does this mean? Are you accepting that tier one isn’t going to have a third server that is as strong as the other two? Not once during their time in tier one has BG looked to be a consideration for first place. They fought well and held their own when they were on (and on the weekend they did very well) but their coverage during the week isn’t enough for serious competition.
During the time that SBI, JQ and SoS were in tier one, for a while it was possible for any one of the servers to win. The coverage largely favoured SoS, but the scores were pretty close and there weeks when both SBI and JQ threatened (and JQ even won) to take the match. As hard as BG has fought and as much as they have achieved, I don’t think they have the numbers to contest tier one, and I think for the healthiest tier one competition, you need three servers with comparable coverage.
