Im tired of wvw. Staying out of it since the patch has already fixed fotm i can finally get the ascended rings. No new updates on it that makes it more interesting. It’s a blessing in disguise that we are third this week. Alleviates the pressure off and gives us time to work on pve. Congrats to jq for winning.
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Being on SoS since i got the game at Launch We have been through A lot and I Haven’t really ever seen us talk the trash that i see JQ doing on a daily basis, on the forums here. I think the best part is you guys think your good. There are no tactics to how you play, all you have is a big zerg that just roll over people. But what was really amazing was for 6 hours we rolled Both servers that where attacking us on both sides and still held the castle with holes in the walls. We have amazing commanders that use skill and tactics Not brooding zerg. Also i don’t post much, but when it comes to 2 v 1, its happening the only reason why you say we are crying is because guess what you are in 1 and 2. hmmmmm just something to think about. Hmmmmm SoS held the top spot for how long?…………. I think it was 10 weeks straight, i could be off but hey it just goes to show that it took a stack server and getting 2 v 1 to take us down. Have a nice day.
Lmao complains about 2v1 and zergs…
It looks more like your server not even trying.. at least jade quarry put work when we were 2nd place.
I still don’t get how BG doing better.. Maybe A lot of SoS jump the ship already.
Thanks to Jade Quarry for warm welcome to server last week for our stay. Had alot of fun on US. We can at least say we did it now. Was fun here is some footage in cyrils new video. Good luck to the US t1 guilds.
I am so glad you posted this video to just show how poor of sportsman you are. This is what RG is all about, abusing whatever they can and everything they can to win. Culling is already an issue and your guild goes ahead to make sure to use the AC potion to make sure you stay even longer invisible on top of mesmer stealth veil! You’re guild’s amazing because you make sure your enemies never see you and never will because you’ll abusing every bit of what culling it has to offer.
RG has no strategy just a giant culling abusing zerg.
I would prefer it if you were able to say, "I’m disapointed that we got beat in the recruiting race, and I’m worried that fights will become lopsided and not be as fun anymore. " That would be a very mature and reasonable thing to say. But crying “foul” and finger pointing because our community was more appealing and our recruiting efforts were more effective – that’s just sad.
I am actually not disappointed you recruited more. The fights will become boring for your hardened fighters, and some of the large well respected guilds i can not say a guild name in this forum have no server loyalty as they have shown in the past few months, and may actually leave in a few months. You also have many people from lower teirs that just want to say to their mates we won t1 WvW or that they actually beat SoS for once. A thorn in the side of many during the start of the rating system. Even with a paid transfer system Anet knows that guilds will transfer.
Queues will be a major problem with people spending longer in LA than in a BL.
Also a lot of SoSs leaders are facing burnout. We do not win the matches by double points we work hard for that lead. The last match we were behind and had many bleary eyed people for the start of the next matchup. If we do go to t2 i think we all need a rest, i dont want any more commanders to burnout. T2 seems like a place to rest up and then get serious again but i hope it doesnt ever come to that.
I would prefer it if you were able to say, "I’m disapointed that we got beat in the recruiting race, and I’m worried that fights will become lopsided and not be as fun anymore. " That would be a very mature and reasonable thing to say. But crying “foul” and finger pointing because our community was more appealing and our recruiting efforts were more effective – that’s just sad.
I am actually not disappointed you recruited more. The fights will become boring for your hardened fighters, and some of the large well respected guilds i can not say a guild name in this forum have no server loyalty as they have shown in the past few months, and may actually leave in a few months. You also have many people from lower teirs that just want to say to their mates we won t1 WvW or that they actually beat SoS for once. A thorn in the side of many during the start of the rating system. Even with a paid transfer system Anet knows that guilds will transfer.
Queues will be a major problem with people spending longer in LA than in a BL.
Also a lot of SoSs leaders are facing burnout. We do not win the matches by double points we work hard for that lead. The last match we were behind and had many bleary eyed people for the start of the next matchup. If we do go to t2 i think we all need a rest, i dont want any more commanders to burnout. T2 seems like a place to rest up and then get serious again but i hope it doesnt ever come to that.
Actually, going to T2 next week might be a good thing.
Picture it: SoR takes our place in T1, then the server reset happens. JQ, SoR and BG fight a close match and thus their ratings don’t change all that much. We (assumingly) fight for a much larger lead in T2. This helps us get further up on the ladder quicker.
If/when JQ wins this week it will be because they have organised their numbers well and responded to attacks with their normal rapid response. IMHO, nobody does scouting and rapid response as well as JQ . Congrats it is just as good a win as any other win ever gained in T1.
EDIT: Apologies BG, meant to congrats your team at SoS Garrison today, excellent counter pushes and holding a garri with zero supply and 4-5 holes in it, Great work, loved the Hammer guys/girls leading the counter charges..
I am a little concerned with the reset as a close fought T1 may see 3, 600PPT earning lower tier servers in T1 for a few weeks. Hopefully the numbers are a bit more complicated than that and JQ, BG SOR etc get a fair go. Time will tell.
As a SoS player myself, I will be on SoS always and hope to face many quality opponents on the battlefields!
Thanks to Jade Quarry for warm welcome to server last week for our stay. Had alot of fun on US. We can at least say we did it now. Was fun here is some footage in cyrils new video. Good luck to the US t1 guilds.
I am so glad you posted this video to just show how poor of sportsman you are. This is what RG is all about, abusing whatever they can and everything they can to win. Culling is already an issue and your guild goes ahead to make sure to use the AC potion to make sure you stay even longer invisible on top of mesmer stealth veil! You’re guild’s amazing because you make sure your enemies never see you and never will because you’ll abusing every bit of what culling it has to offer.
RG has no strategy just a giant culling abusing zerg.
Kitten those RG for learning how to use their skills!
In war, you don’t just go shake hands with your enemy and introduce yourself, you attack with the element of surprise. Saying someone is cheating by being sneaky is like saying a war was won unfairly because you were outplayed and unprepared. A thief isn’t cheating by stealthing up onto an individual player and attacking them, they’re using their build as intended. Same goes with team/group gameplay – not using your skills to benefit your entire group would just be poor gameplay. The fact remains that these strategies are available to all individuals who play the game – and plenty of people use these tactics. Red Guard just uses them unusually well. I’ve seen Votf, Tsym, and plenty of other guilds use this as well. If you’re gonna generalize groups who use tactics based on skills that are given to them and have been decided as working as intended by the GMs, then you might want to include the fact that literally everyone does this, Red Guard is just doing it better. No matter if you see it as an abuse or not, it takes a lot of coordination and discipline to be this effective. If you have an issue with the way skills effect WvW, it’s probably better to take it up with the people who have decided those skills are working as intended and balanced, not the people who are using their skills as effectively as they can to benefit their group.
Thanks to Jade Quarry for warm welcome to server last week for our stay. Had alot of fun on US. We can at least say we did it now. Was fun here is some footage in cyrils new video. Good luck to the US t1 guilds.
I am so glad you posted this video to just show how poor of sportsman you are. This is what RG is all about, abusing whatever they can and everything they can to win. Culling is already an issue and your guild goes ahead to make sure to use the AC potion to make sure you stay even longer invisible on top of mesmer stealth veil! You’re guild’s amazing because you make sure your enemies never see you and never will because you’ll abusing every bit of what culling it has to offer.
RG has no strategy just a giant culling abusing zerg.
Funny to see your post.
1. AC potion does not prolong the stealth time.
2. Invisible in tactical meaning is to break enemy line (not abusing culling). (If you see the video again, after 20 minutes, you will see both zergs are using mesmer veil).
3. RG zerg is smaller than most of the zerg (while they in JQ (they only have 15 members in JQ at that time).
I think you should learn how these guild run. Compared to EU guilds, most of NA server guilds cannot compete with EU server guilds. (what you should do is learn from them (which has been started by some of the guilds)).
Thanks to Jade Quarry for warm welcome to server last week for our stay. Had alot of fun on US. We can at least say we did it now. Was fun here is some footage in cyrils new video. Good luck to the US t1 guilds.
I am so glad you posted this video to just show how poor of sportsman you are. This is what RG is all about, abusing whatever they can and everything they can to win. Culling is already an issue and your guild goes ahead to make sure to use the AC potion to make sure you stay even longer invisible on top of mesmer stealth veil! You’re guild’s amazing because you make sure your enemies never see you and never will because you’ll abusing every bit of what culling it has to offer.
RG has no strategy just a giant culling abusing zerg.
Funny to see your post.
1. AC potion does not prolong the stealth time.
2. Invisible in tactical meaning is to break enemy line (not abusing culling). (If you see the video again, after 20 minutes, you will see both zergs are using mesmer veil).
3. RG zerg is smaller than most of the zerg (while they in JQ (they only have 15 members in JQ at that time).
I think you should learn how these guild run. Compared to EU guilds, most of NA server guilds cannot compete with EU server guilds. (what you should do is learn from them (which has been started by some of the guilds)).
RG had more than 15 because when they wanted GvG with TSym they were fielding 25
Had a great time in SOS garrison tonight holding off all you SOS guys and JQ as well. We had so many holes in our walls I felt like we were living in Swiss cheese! Seriously though they were great fights! And to RedGuard,,, it was great to get the chance to fight you guys while you were here. Good to see you on the field but better to see you gone. I joke of course, much respect goes out to you guys, and good luck wherever you may land. Come on Blackgate lets finish the week STRONG!
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Frozen Man Lvl 80 Guardian (JINX-BG)
Frozen Moo Juice Lvl 80 Warrior (JINX-BG)
I’m really surprised JQ’s xfer guilds are getting along so well with the natives. I expected a little drama, but I have seen none. Obviously they all made a good decision as to were they’d have the most fun and fit in the best. JQ’s main strength is that we just like to wvw… no big secret, no big secret strategies, very little drama. It has been very entertaining vs SoS for us, and we are about to get our 2nd win over these monsters. (I hope!)
I can say I’m really impressed with BG this week. The first week they came in hard and got socked right in the nose. The second week you could see them working things out, and this week they are in good fighting condition. They simply lack coverage at times. This week in my mind they have earned the T1 T-shirt.
I was leading our gank groups and commanding later, and the best defender of SoS BL was BG. Yes I purposefully was 2v1ing Bg all night, and they wouldn’t budge from the freaking garri! Great fun was had by all. I had this memo from BG stating we were going to 2v1 SoS tonight…
Sometimes I admit I wasn’t sure who’s BL we were in as BG and SoS were actively defending Titans Paw it seemed. I just wanted to build ballistas and farm chickens, I promise!
Now for the real talk…WHO’S excited to fight all these up and coming new “we are t1 servers?!”
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I am so glad you posted this video to just show how poor of sportsman you are. This is what RG is all about, abusing whatever they can and everything they can to win. Culling is already an issue and your guild goes ahead to make sure to use the AC potion to make sure you stay even longer invisible on top of mesmer stealth veil! You’re guild’s amazing because you make sure your enemies never see you and never will because you’ll abusing every bit of what culling it has to offer.
RG has no strategy just a giant culling abusing zerg.
Everyone always talks about how everyone’s using AC potion to make culling last longer, not sure why. I think it’s because they can’t figure out why we do use them, and just jump to the first (dumb) conclusion they come up with. Here’s a hint for you. Yes, we use the potions for a reason. No, that reason isn’t to lengthen culling time. Plenty of people have figured out why we do it in the past, it’s not all that tricky.
You’ll also have noticed (ah, who am I kidding, you won’t have) that we didn’t use veil in a fair few of the fights in the video, and still killed stuff. Veil helps, but we don’t need it.
RG had more than 15 because when they wanted GvG with TSym they were fielding 25
Our numbers built up over the week – at the start we only had 12 out at any one time, when we wanted GvG with TSym we had 23, and I think we ran almost 30 on reset. The video has clips from pretty much all parts of the week, so there’s varying numbers in it.
More like, brought to us by quaggan! Thanks to all the great guilds and players we fought during our US stay, hope you guys keep having some awesome fights.
Some footage I have from late saturday night when Blackgate was trying to hold SoS and JQ out of hills in SoS borderlands. It was some of the best fighting that I’ve been part of in a long time. I had over 40minutes of footage so it was a bit hard to cut down. Hopefully everyone enjoys.
Three weeks of sheer chaos as margin of victory will determine the placement in week 2!!!! Some awesomely lopsided match ups and finally a break from this repetitive madness!
Oh man oh man oh man.
I normally don’t advocate throwing a match, but how much fun would it be to take that first week off and get sent to LAST! hahahahaha…
Three weeks of sheer chaos as margin of victory will determine the placement in week 2!!!! Some awesomely lopsided match ups and finally a break from this repetitive madness!
Oh man oh man oh man.
I normally don’t advocate throwing a match, but how much fun would it be to take that first week off and get sent to LAST! hahahahaha…
Oh the possibilities. Oh the fun!
The horror! The horror!!!!
SoR must be really kitten #8230; Just when they got a pass to T1…
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Three weeks of sheer chaos as margin of victory will determine the placement in week 2!!!! Some awesomely lopsided match ups and finally a break from this repetitive madness!
Oh man oh man oh man.
I normally don’t advocate throwing a match, but how much fun would it be to take that first week off and get sent to LAST! hahahahaha…
Oh the possibilities. Oh the fun!
The horror! The horror!!!!
SoR must be really kitten .. Just when they got a pass to T1…
Naw, if they get to T1 at the end of this week, they start in T1 at reset. They don’t want that because if they lose by big numbers, they’ll be down in T8.
If/when JQ wins this week it will be because they have organised their numbers well and responded to attacks with their normal rapid response. IMHO, nobody does scouting and rapid response as well as JQ . Congrats it is just as good a win as any other win ever gained in T1.
EDIT: Apologies BG, meant to congrats your team at SoS Garrison today, excellent counter pushes and holding a garri with zero supply and 4-5 holes in it, Great work, loved the Hammer guys/girls leading the counter charges..
I am a little concerned with the reset as a close fought T1 may see 3, 600PPT earning lower tier servers in T1 for a few weeks. Hopefully the numbers are a bit more complicated than that and JQ, BG SOR etc get a fair go. Time will tell.
As a SoS player myself, I will be on SoS always and hope to face many quality opponents on the battlefields!
Yeah the SoS Garrison was some good stuff, Ohknats from KnT was leading the swiss cheese defense team and KnT was pretty impressive considering the coverage of defense against multiple foes. Even after it dwindled down to like 12 BG in the zone we still held out ( not Garrison until I logged around midnight PST NA time
I wish someone had made a video of some of that action to put with the " what a smaller group can do" videos
If/when JQ wins this week it will be because they have organised their numbers well and responded to attacks with their normal rapid response. IMHO, nobody does scouting and rapid response as well as JQ . Congrats it is just as good a win as any other win ever gained in T1.
EDIT: Apologies BG, meant to congrats your team at SoS Garrison today, excellent counter pushes and holding a garri with zero supply and 4-5 holes in it, Great work, loved the Hammer guys/girls leading the counter charges..
I am a little concerned with the reset as a close fought T1 may see 3, 600PPT earning lower tier servers in T1 for a few weeks. Hopefully the numbers are a bit more complicated than that and JQ, BG SOR etc get a fair go. Time will tell.
As a SoS player myself, I will be on SoS always and hope to face many quality opponents on the battlefields!
Yeah the SoS Garrison was some good stuff, Ohknats from KnT was leading the swiss cheese defense team and KnT was pretty impressive considering the coverage of defense against multiple foes. Even after it dwindled down to like 12 BG in the zone we still held out ( not Garrison ;) until I logged around midnight PST NA time
I wish someone had made a video of some of that action to put with the " what a smaller group can do" videos
LotD also had a commander (me) and group at the garrison. The fights were pretty awesome for hours. We had about 15-20 LotD and a few other people with us, usually less than 20 because they could all use a Mesmer portal. Most of the night.
We were holding one side while KnT held the other and we’d collapse to help each other when needed. I was really happy with the coordination between LotD and KnT. It allowed us to hold off pushes on garrison at the same time as pushes Lake/Hills.
The SoS and JQ on the borderland kept the pressure on all night and the fighting was nonstop. I recorded the entire night, but the file was corrupt when I tried to edit it for a video.
Thanks to everyone from all three servers on SoS BL last night for making it fun.
Some footage I have from late saturday night when Blackgate was trying to hold SoS and JQ out of hills in SoS borderlands. It was some of the best fighting that I’ve been part of in a long time. I had over 40minutes of footage so it was a bit hard to cut down. Hopefully everyone enjoys.
I dont understand Blackgates strat today, you guys arent defending your Boarderlands, and your still not going up against SoS on any of the maps ? Would have thought you guys wanted to try to stay in T1…. oh well…
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I dont understand Blackgates strat today, you guys arent defending your Boarderlands, and your still not going up against SoS on any of the maps ? Would have thought you guys wanted to try to stay in T1…. oh well…
Well Blackgate understands your strat, fill with bandwagon and lose EBG SM to a handful of BG.
BG then proceeded to take SoS towers while JQ hid in their tower trebbing SM, You don’t understand the strat of a server that has a handful of people on for 6 hours?
BG took SoSBL Garrison last night and held it with no walls for hours while JQ attacked BGs spawn tower unsuccessfully. Stick to your strat, seems to be working, I think BG likes no Q times
I dont understand Blackgates strat today, you guys arent defending your Boarderlands, and your still not going up against SoS on any of the maps ? Would have thought you guys wanted to try to stay in T1…. oh well…
Well Blackgate understands your strat, fill with bandwagon and lose EBG SM to a handful of BG.
BG then proceeded to take SoS towers while JQ hid in their tower trebbing SM, You don’t understand the strat of a server that has a handful of people on for 6 hours?
BG took SoSBL Garrison last night and held it with no walls for hours while JQ attacked BGs spawn tower unsuccessfully. Stick to your strat, seems to be working, I think BG likes no Q times
Some footage I have from late saturday night when Blackgate was trying to hold SoS and JQ out of hills in SoS borderlands. It was some of the best fighting that I’ve been part of in a long time. I had over 40minutes of footage so it was a bit hard to cut down. Hopefully everyone enjoys.
If any of you JQ guys dislike the queue times, feel free to come over to SoS and fight against the bandwaggoning cowards who need victories handed to them on a plate instead of earning it.
No queues over here bar reset night, ever
Now you say you’re lonely
You cried the whole night through
Well, you can cry me a river
Cry me a river
I cried a river over you
Now you say you’re sorry
For being so untrue
Well, you can cry me a river
Cry me a river
I cried a river over you
You drove me,
Nearly drove me out of my head
While you never shed a tear
Remember?
I remember all that you said
Told me love was too plebeian
Told me you were through with me and
Now you say you love me
Well, just to prove you do
Cry me a river
Cry me a river
I cried a river over you
You drove me
Nearly drove me out of my head
While you never shed a tear
Remember?
I remember all that you said
Told me love was to plebeian
Told me you were through with me…
And now you say you love me
Well, just to prove that you do…
Come on! come on!
Cry me a river…
Cry me a river…
I cried a river over you
I cried a river over you…
In response to a queue time thing earlier about JQ, we really don’t have long queues if any still. I’ve had some weird bug with members though. Some get in within 5 minutes, others are queued for an hour while tons of ppl are getting in before them. It make sense no to Bacca of teh Jed…
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In response to a queue time thing earlier about JQ, we really don’t have long queues if any still. I’ve had some weird bug with members though. Some get in within 5 minutes, others are queued for an hour while tons of ppl are getting in before them. It make sense no to Bacca of teh Jed…
Other night my guildies que’d 15 mins after me and got in in five mins. Half an hour later I still wasn’t in. It led to a sad me.
The first one is for coming to NA. As a BG player, you going to JQ was…scary….however you have shown the few of us that actually pay attention instead of crying, where we needed improvement. Its a subtle strategy, (actually its not all that subtle, all you need is a brain to see it) and while it looks like culling exploiting, it is not, it holds actual tactical advantages. If culling was fixed tomorrow, it still would be very very effective. One of you said it up there, but several guilds (especially those on BG) have taken notice and have adjusted certain things. So thanks.
The second thing I’d like to thank you for is leaving NA!
In response to a queue time thing earlier about JQ, we really don’t have long queues if any still. I’ve had some weird bug with members though. Some get in within 5 minutes, others are queued for an hour while tons of ppl are getting in before them. It make sense no to Bacca of teh Jed…
Shut down the client and restart. If a queue goes past half an hour (except on Fridays and some Saturdays), it’s hosed and needs to reconnect to the log in server… er something. But I’ve done that. Send chat, “Hey anyone else getting queues on BLBL?” No? Close down restart. Finny!
Props to both JQ and BG for good fights, it’s refreshing to fight an uphill battle this week, at least from my point of view. I’m definitely learning more about strategy this week than in the previous ten in tier 1, not to say those weren’t good battles. Hopefully someday soon I’ll be confident enough in WvW to use my commander tag against you guys. See you on the battlefield!
Perhaps if they use veil before rushing into strategery they’ll have a few seconds longer to come up with something.
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All Hail CuddleStrike! Undisputed Empress of Tier 1!
Controlled by CuddleStrike!
SoS recruits and gets quite a few guilds, its ok. JQ recruits and gets quite a few guilds, everyone that goes to JQ is considered a bandwagoning coward. What is wrong with this picture?
If any of you JQ guys dislike the queue times, feel free to come over to SoS and fight against the bandwaggoning cowards who need victories handed to them on a plate instead of earning it.
No queues over here bar reset night, ever
Because it wasn’t handed on a silver platter the past several weeks to SoS right?
SoS has some of the most disrespectful players I’ve ever witnessed in any game community.
I still noted teams attempting to utilize culling to their advantage after the patch went through. This saddened the SF team
Speaking of which, about 2-3 hours after the patch in T2 WvW, the GSCH guild had a massive culling portal bomb attempt and immediately failed.
You should have seen all the red downed arrows. It was amazing.
Props to GSCH for failing so hard, I didn’t think it was possible to be that reliant on exploiting a buggy mechanic.
1st you realize this is the t1 thread right? second if you do know that talk about being really pathetic and having to flame them for it on a different thread, and 3rd, wow you just make your server look pathetic for flaming a guild that is always so nice and awesome to everybody.
EDIT: excuse the intrusion SoS/JQ/BG, don’t mean to add to the thread about any t2 stuff, just messed up seeing someone flaming one our our major community guilds on SoR on your guys thread
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Im tired of wvw. Staying out of it since the patch has already fixed fotm i can finally get the ascended rings. No new updates on it that makes it more interesting. It’s a blessing in disguise that we are third this week. Alleviates the pressure off and gives us time to work on pve. Congrats to jq for winning.
Excuse the offtopic bit, but I hope you don’t get the underground fractal ice elemental variation – that boss is ridiculous now.
Ontopic – if BG goes down to Tier 2 and FA goes up to Tier 2, I will be able to enjoy Feisty’s score updates. :o Then again, the reset may screw all this up.
I still noted teams attempting to utilize culling to their advantage after the patch went through. This saddened the SF team
Speaking of which, about 2-3 hours after the patch in T2 WvW, the GSCH guild had a massive culling portal bomb attempt and immediately failed.
You should have seen all the red downed arrows. It was amazing.
Props to GSCH for failing so hard, I didn’t think it was possible to be that reliant on exploiting a buggy mechanic.
AGG tried something like that to defend bay yesterday. I saw them all clumped and then vanished. Our whole JQ zerg stopped and started dropping AOE’s and attacks all around us. About 15 seconds later crops of red arrows started to sprout all over my screen.
until I logged around midnight PST NA time
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