Guild Wars 2

You guys did something funny, probably unintentional. Just when I grew sick of our link and was glad they’d be gone the next day you turned us into their link.
Anyway: I’m on GH and we’ve been a link and then became an independent server again (and now are a link once again).
Our K/D ratio the past nearly 2 months was over the top and we’ve had the highest K/D ratio of all servers until about 2 weeks ago – all of the sudden we were average. The same is happening now – the nearly same links, just that now Vabbi became independent. What is happening? Are servers that become independent again being pushed to have a better chance? Is this a bug? Do you manually adjust the latency of servers?
I’m no computer geek, I’m simply a gamer but this looks kind of weird.

Edit: Spelling

And to add: At least the servers we lost miserably against we won against earlier. So it can’t be that we were just too bad for them.

Well less people are getting stupid deaths. More guilds groups enabling you team to survive big fights better, or player have just improved their overall skill level in fights. Also, your enemies could just be better than your previous opponents. Their are a lot of reasons why your servers k/d has changed.

the re-linking is happening every 2 months
the 15 servers with hightest activity become main servers . According to what i know activity 0include : daily ammount of players logging in on each server , overall played hours on past 2 months, wvw rank gained. So basicaly over the past 2 months , vabbi was more active than gunnars, so they became the main server . Even if gunnar glicko would place them in tier 2 , the glicko of the main server is taken in consideration , on the scorring > https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/eu/wvw vabbi glicko beeing the lowest from all the main servers
In order to become main server in the next 2 months gunnars need to be more active than 1 of the international european servers : Vabbi /FSP /Piken /SFR /Desolation/ ROF/ Gandara

Ulion.5476:

Well less people are getting stupid deaths. More guilds groups enabling you team to survive big fights better, or player have just improved their overall skill level in fights. Also, your enemies could just be better than your previous opponents. Their are a lot of reasons why your servers k/d has changed.

It’s a bit weird to always have the highest K/D ratio of all servers, isn’t it? Right now we’re at 2,3 which was usual the past 2 months, minus the past 2 weeks in which we fell to 0,9.
To make it clear: GH rose from the ashes, has got the highest K/D ratio of all servers, by far for, 6 weeks, stamps FSP and Gandara into the ground with again a very high K/D and then when facing them again the last week, they have a K/D ratio of 0,9 – looks to me as if GH had some huge advantage which was then adjusted and now Vabbi has got the same advantage. Nothing against Vabbi, just that: CAN THIS GAME PLEASE HAVE ANY REAL BALANCE AT ALL; YES?!

Rayya.2591:

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Ok, Rav. Please try to get the point of this thread, ok?
ETA: To help you: I didn’t complain about being turned into a link – just that we have the same matchup like the past 2 months, plus UW, granted. So, our K/D should kind of be the same as well and should have also been the past 2 weeks which it wasn’t. It’d be easy to say that all of this is coincidence if it were a whole new link but alas, thanks to the irony of the maths that is sometimes used, we’re still in the very same linking. And I don’t think the 5 PvE players who quit whatever server make any difference.

don’t get me wrong i just tried to explain the linking :
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/World-Linking-Beta/first
About the k/d ratio , the server with hightest activity, will have usualy the highest k/d ratio , because they will be able to outnumber the enemy for 20 hours /day , except the prime time . As you saw 2 weeks ago GH had 1.40 k/d ratio on EBG as the hightest among all servers , while they had 0.5 on home border , because nobody bothered to move over there : as an example Screen bellow when in 2 diferent days Gunnar had hightest k/d ratio arround prime time but suffer on late night till mid day.
Also last matchup you had aginast FSP before was in 2015 november
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/23/338
before k/d was implemented

Rayya.2591:

don’t get me wrong i just tried to explain the linking :
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/World-Linking-Beta/first
About the k/d ratio , the server with hightest activity, will have usualy the highest k/d ratio , because they will be able to outnumber the enemy for 20 hours /day , except the prime time . As you saw 2 weeks ago GH had 1.40 k/d ratio on EBG as the hightest among all servers , while they had 0.5 on home border , because nobody bothered to move over there : as an example Screen bellow when in 2 diferent days Gunnar had hightest k/d ratio arround prime time but suffer on late night till mid day.
Also last matchup you had aginast FSP before was in 2015 november
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/23/338
before k/d was implemented

I can also give you the recipe for my apple-mint jelly – just because. I can also stay on topic though.
And we probably had FSP against GH/vabbi once the past 2 months, but twice against Gandara.
There were next to no queues, except to mostly EB in the first 5-6 weeks as that was before we’ve had the PvE players hoping for the backpiece. We’ve been against all tiers during that time, so having the highest K/D ratio of all servers doesn’t seem right, especially since we now again have the highest K/D ratio, albeit we were really baad the past 2 weeks, while we were the nearly same players. And there isn’t much difference between the servers since HoT anymore. Back in the day you could say that some servers were better than others – that’s long gone. Your theory doesn’t really fit, sorry.
And you vabbi guys are ok, but certainly not that great and 2.3 throughout a week is the absolut highest I’ve ever seen and it was the norm the first 5-6 weeks since Gunnar’s became a Mainserver again and I guess it will stay that high for Vabbi now again.
I don’t know if you finally got my point. You CJ someone and they whisper you “Well, you’re on the faster server – such skill much wow” – do you really want that? I don’t. Even if the profession balance is utter kitten and even if the translation of armorstats didn’t work out and even if all elites carry themselves, I still want some vitual reality that isn’t hampered with. And the current K/D makes it look as if all ressurected servers (GH and Vabbi are the first 2 that ever came back from being links) have got an advantage. And if they have and if that is then adjusted, are there used any metrics at all or is it just someone who thinks this and that server isn’t right? And that is my point.

I mean the best example is: We won a 2 vs 5 yesterday with me being a kittenty vanilla signet thief. That certainly can’t be right and you’d agree.

From what I hear many of the Piken Square guilds left for Vabbi, these are the ones that don’t care about PPT, the ones wanting fights and to GvG.

Know who doesn’t give 2 kittens about K/D ratio? GvG guilds.

You also have UW which means you have SALT and Teapot dragging down your ratio!

Edit: I also forgot about outnumbered, it doesn’t count towards scoring if you die outnumbered but no idea of it counts to K/D ratio. With many chasing outnumbered to get extra pips and no impact on the score many are alright being lemmings when they have the buff as there’s no consequence other than the usual GH kitten measuring that’s been around for years.

So they wanna have GvG against blobbaddon’s mouth pro guilds or what you trying to say?

Junkpile.7439:

So they wanna have GvG against blobbaddon’s mouth pro guilds or what you trying to say?

I dunno, I don’t give a rat’s backside about GvGs or that scene just that they don’t care about dying.

Jana.6831:

And we probably had FSP against GH/vabbi once the past 2 months, but twice against Gandara.

gankdara had an negative k/d ratio in the last week like 0.6 -0.7 overall . gh/vabbi had 0.97 and fsp 1.21
The dissapointment we had when we meet tier 1 servers that refussed to fight once they lose 2 fights in row, forced our vabbi guys to want to drop back in tier 2 , in order to meet riverside, wich can provide much more challenging fights

I do hope you guys will get my point some day. I can’t say more than I’ve already said, just that I suspected some servers/colours being faster/slower than others for 2 years now but it’s really obvious with the resurrected servers right now.

Again in short: GH comes back from the ashes has got a K/D ratio around 2+ for 5-6 weeks straight, then falls to 0.9 and now with the nearly same linking Vabbi (and GH and UW) is back at 2+ again. And the fights definitively were different as well – and that’s not because the servers fought that much better – because no one really can and all servers had an influx of PvE players.

In even shorter: Anet, please use maths when adjusting server latency.

Jana.6831:

I do hope you guys will get my point some day. I can’t say more than I’ve already said, just that I suspected some servers/colours being faster/slower than others for 2 years now but it’s really obvious with the resurrected servers right now.

Again in short: GH comes back from the ashes has got a K/D ratio around 2+ for 5-6 weeks straight, then falls to 0.9 and now with the nearly same linking Vabbi (and GH and UW) is back at 2+ again. And the fights definitively were different as well – and that’s not because the servers fought that much better – because no one really can and all servers had an influx of PvE players.

In even shorter: Anet, please use maths when adjusting server latency.

Match ups are fluid from day to day, week to week, month to month… That’s how it goes, and something you should know by now… The devs can’t predict the future, they can only analyze the various stats and make their best guess decisions…

The devs have a nightmare of server juggling, linking and various systems in place to manage… and they try to appease everyone. They get it, and the “maths”… It’s that you don’t understand. The human element of players is the unpredictable factor that’s beyond dev control, not that the devs are doing things in some flawed way. Understand?

Jana.6831:

I do hope you guys will get my point some day. I can’t say more than I’ve already said, just that I suspected some servers/colours being faster/slower than others for 2 years now but it’s really obvious with the resurrected servers right now.

Again in short: GH comes back from the ashes has got a K/D ratio around 2+ for 5-6 weeks straight, then falls to 0.9 and now with the nearly same linking Vabbi (and GH and UW) is back at 2+ again. And the fights definitively were different as well – and that’s not because the servers fought that much better – because no one really can and all servers had an influx of PvE players.

In even shorter: Anet, please use maths when adjusting server latency.

K/D got nothing to do with developers manipulating servers which they don’t do. As the post above states, the system is fluid. You should ask around, maybe some vabbi top guilds wasn’t on that week when its happened or something like that.
I would understand opening a thread for this if you had 1+ second ping in the last 2 weeks constantly, but this way it’s just laughable.