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Why are there never any Dev posts/comments/responses in the WvW forum? Pretty much almost all the time, us WvW players have to play this game feeling like we’re being neglected by the devs and Anet- so of course, people post in the forums to make suggestions for things that would help improve the WvW experience, and feedback on things that hurt that experience (like the millions of threads criticizing this Golem Event right now).
However, every time I look in the WvW forums I never see any threads with the red color indicating a Dev has responded to it. This, along with the fact that the devs seem to think things like an entire week of golem nonsense is actually GOOD for WvW, leads me to believe that none of you ever step foot into the WvW forums and read anything WvW players have to say in the first place. This is a little disheartening because if I want to give you feedback on something, I feel like “what’s even the point? They’re never going to see this thread anyway”. And since I can’t seem to find any other kind of Feedback forum, this has led me to come into this forum and bluntly address the issue of why is nobody reading our threads?
They must be under a gag order or get fired if they post
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ideas-for-other-WvW-special-events
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-Siege-Blueprint-Skill-Cancel-Build-Disabled
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ideas-for-other-WvW-special-events/first#post5289303
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuvtest/Leap-over-wall-at-flame-keep
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuvtest/Way-too-difficult-to-get-started
There is just 2 1/2 pages of World vs. World -centeric Dev posts/threads from the Dev Tracker. (Sorry, got tired of pasting.) You can use it to find Dev posts in the sub-forum you are most interested, as well.
Good luck.
man you should check out the dungeon forums. They have an insane number of reds
Short answer, they don’t care about WvW. The patch notes of the past 3 years can testify to that.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ideas-for-other-WvW-special-events
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-Siege-Blueprint-Skill-Cancel-Build-Disabled
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ideas-for-other-WvW-special-events/first#post5289303
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuvtest/Leap-over-wall-at-flame-keep
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuvtest/Way-too-difficult-to-get-started
There is just 2 1/2 pages of World vs. World -centeric Dev posts/threads from the Dev Tracker. (Sorry, got tired of pasting.) You can use it to find Dev posts in the sub-forum you are most interested, as well.
Good luck.
Okay first of all, you posted a couple of the same things twice. Look at the first 4 links, that’s really only 2 separate posts, not 4.
Also, almost all of these are in the Forum for the WvW beta testing of the new map, which is not at all what I’m talking about. I’m talking about suggestions and criticisms of the current WvW game mode, not a new map being tested.
And look at the links that are relevant. “We disabled this because it’s bugged”. “Cool ideas”. Is that really the kind of responses we want from the devs?
No, those are different posts in the same thread, if you had bothered to follow them.
You said no posts…there are posts from the Devs. But, of course, if it doesn’t fit your agenda, it won’t count.
Still, good luck.
man you should check out the dungeon forums. They have an insane number of reds
They are necrod threads.
It would help if you open them to see or use the dev tracker function on the forums.
No, those are different posts in the same thread, if you had bothered to follow them.
You said no posts…there are posts from the Devs. But, of course, if it doesn’t fit your agenda, it won’t count.
Still, good luck.
Okay I’m sorry, so it’s “This has been disabled because it’s broken”, “Okay it is not disabled anymore because it’s fixed”, “Cool ideas guys”, and “I’m seeing a lot of people saying ‘no rally’, thoughts?”
All of your other links were NOT in the Forum I’m talking about and therefore are not relevant- it has nothing to do with my “agenda”. And out of the four posts that are in the right forum, half of them are about something being bugged, and only one of them seems to actually be a sort of thoughtful response.
And again, that is in a thread discussing WvW special events- if you read the OP, it’s not even a completely serious thread, as it states you can post troll ideas. It’s suggestions for random WvW events that are not even general WvW play. And as we all know, these kinds of special events generally are more for targeting the beloved PvE audience as a way to get them to play WvW for a week while actual WvWers have to sit out because WvW gets overtaken by some stupid event that ruins actual WvW gameplay for a week.
For instance, I would really like to see the Devs respond to atleast one of the threads criticizing this Golem event, or the thread discussing how the devs seem to think nobody plays WvW as their main game-mode. But the Devs don’t respond to the issues we actually want addressed, just silly things like special events to cater to ktrainers and pve’ers.
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most are CM, not dev, CM only help to pass words and they promise nothing else.
TBH, i forgot when is the last time i seen a wvw dev in wvw section
yuuup No devs here
I highly doubt they will answer, the only reason they replied to the FAQ bait and switch for HoT is because it was being plastered all over the web. This is not really news worthy, it’s utterly stupid but not news worthy so don’t expect anything until the end which will be something like “Our Golem Rush Event was a great success, we want to thank all the players that participated and we look forward to bringing you more new and exciting events in the future”.
They only post when they think they are funny, or to insult us further, or to make a random post to pretend they listen.
Only once since launch did we get one guy actively working on looking at the WvW lag.
This too was only just recently which resulted in reducing numbers per map and then all went silent again.
If not enough of us complain then they wont do a thing.
Take siege trolling, 2 years ago a few players complained and a dev response was that they cannot control how a player decides to play.
But then several months ago a lot of players complained, especially on T1 servers, which seems to be the only servers they look at when they can be bothered, and all of a sudden this previously uncontrollable playstyle became a bannable offense?!
Oh and let’s not even get started about the mods!
And lastly the FSP failure which resulted in an absent member for months before the community complained enough to get them to get a new one. Of which we got 2 and again we have one which rarely posts, but at least the other is active.
The FSP is supposed to improve communication and yet it seems communication has, as we predicted, become worse. The FSP scheme is a way to further neglect the communities.
There are no WvW devs… So why would one of the pve/pvp devs come in here to be strung up and neutered?
A few devs tried, realised they had no power to change anything in WvW and retreated back into the shadows. WvW could be a esports changer…. I never liked esports… 4-5 people playing a game isn’t enough for me, we live in an age of internet and social media. Why would I only want to play with a team of 4 people.
Esports will develop into larger team games, of which WvW could have easily been the pinnacle and the aim for many other game developers.
If only there was a charity I could inform about the mistreatment of WvW by Arena Net developers? (Royal Society for the Protection of Cruelty to WvW) RSPCW
There is a reason why the WvW community moved onto a different forum. Justin sayin’. ANet has paid very little attention to WvW over these years and their absence from the WvW forum doesn’t contribute.
Its actually good so many people are upset – it shows they care about WvW. Shame we are the only ones…
if I was a dev I wouldn’t post here either. No good ever comes from it these days even when they try to do something. It may be their own dang fault but this place has becomes a toxic cesspool of a very jaded player-base with repetitive topics and lack of reasonableness. There is a reason reddit threads gets more attention. Sadly this forum just isn’t worth employee time anymore.
if I was a dev I wouldn’t post here either. No good ever comes from it these days even when they try to do something. It may be their own dang fault but this place has becomes a toxic cesspool of a very jaded player-base with repetitive topics and lack of reasonableness. There is a reason reddit threads gets more attention. Sadly this forum just isn’t worth employee time anymore.
Unfortunately, have to agree.
if I was a dev I wouldn’t post here either. No good ever comes from it these days even when they try to do something. It may be their own dang fault but this place has becomes a toxic cesspool of a very jaded player-base with repetitive topics and lack of reasonableness. There is a reason reddit threads gets more attention. Sadly this forum just isn’t worth employee time anymore.
Unfortunately, have to agree.
Sorry but I disagree.
A company can not lose control of its forums and just say “F it I will go somewhere else”. ANET is not just a forum goer that becomes hated by the community that can just pick their bags and move to another place.
The forums are meant to be the primary way of communicating with the community, so ANET should work to reestablish the communications here.
How? Take the backlash but continue to communicate.
They need to come here, deal with the backlash and eventually, once people realize they are being heard, they will start to become more productive and accepting – heck back lashing attitude would even become frowned upon rather than the “praising” it sometimes gets.
The community has their hand stretched towards ANET, they come here and say what they think. Problem is they have been left hanging for so long that some started to hold pitchforks and torches as well. ANET needs to reach out for those hands in the crowd that are still empty and get their help in convincing the others so this becomes a better place.
Aww some people were mean to them and now they are afraid to post…qq how sad, hey how great would it be if we can all avoid work at our jobs and still collect paychecks because someone is being mean to us…think of the possibilities!
In all seriousness that cop-out excuse is getting old and tired, this is their game, and whether they like it or not, whether they regret WvW or not its their responsibility to take care of it and communicate with the player base. And if they continue to show neglect the way they do then they deserve the anger and frustration that people throw at them simple as that. You don’t put off your responsibilities at a job then complain that somebody is mad at you, you cant have it both ways.
This isn’t the government, its a business, you do a bad job you should be replaced or moved not stay there for 20 years.
Anet don’t have controlling interest anymore. They did make an amazing game.
NCsoft has a long history. I challenge anyone here to go read up on that history and come back here with any optimism that its going to get better.
A dev did show up in the “Make your own special event” thread, said some of the ideas were interesting, and that he would forward them to “the team.”
Two issues though:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ideas-for-other-WvW-special-events
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-Siege-Blueprint-Skill-Cancel-Build-Disabled
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ideas-for-other-WvW-special-events/first#post5289303
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuvtest/Leap-over-wall-at-flame-keep
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuvtest/Way-too-difficult-to-get-started
There is just 2 1/2 pages of World vs. World -centeric Dev posts/threads from the Dev Tracker. (Sorry, got tired of pasting.) You can use it to find Dev posts in the sub-forum you are most interested, as well.
Good luck.
Sorry but the sub-forum that most of those posts are on is the “WvW Desert Borderlands Stress Test” forums. Which only people that have pre-purchased HoT can get into. Which is NOT the same as the current standard WvW forums. They don’t listen to us, stop kidding yourself
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ideas-for-other-WvW-special-events
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-Siege-Blueprint-Skill-Cancel-Build-Disabled
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ideas-for-other-WvW-special-events/first#post5289303
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuvtest/Leap-over-wall-at-flame-keep
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuvtest/Way-too-difficult-to-get-started
There is just 2 1/2 pages of World vs. World -centeric Dev posts/threads from the Dev Tracker. (Sorry, got tired of pasting.) You can use it to find Dev posts in the sub-forum you are most interested, as well.
Good luck.
Sorry but the sub-forum that most of those posts are on is the “WvW Desert Borderlands Stress Test” forums. Which only people that have pre-purchased HoT can get into. Which is NOT the same as the current standard WvW forums. They don’t listen to us, stop kidding yourself
Yeah. Including posts clearly not in the WvW forum just shows how hard it is for even the Anet apologists to defend Anet.
Why are there never any Dev posts/comments/responses in the WvW forum?
Check out the Dev Tracker or in other words the care´o´meter of GW2.
Dev Posts
Dungeons -> check
Living World -> check
Api -> check
General GW2 -> check
Technical Issues -> check
WvW -> Nope we don´t give a kitten
Class Balance -> Hey we are Arenanet, we don´t need balance we make one profession kittening OP every six months, that´s enough.
SPvP -> Omnomnom soon, Esports ?
I guess you figure out their focus yourself
WvW had never been a priority to them for these 3 years. For those who only logon to join their guild in wvw, we are the “exception” to them.
Their focus is on New sales .. and just like any other monopoly, they will learn the hard way when they are faced with competition.
We are angry .. we are frustrated .. they are treating us like trolls.
LALALA not listening :P
The only adult response is …
LALALA not paying :P
Its actually good so many people are upset – it shows they care about WvW. Shame we are the only ones…
Oh we’ve complained plenty before. It’s just that before there were fewer people doing the complaining so it was easier for the mods to do their stuff.
Due to the sheer number of complaints the mods have had to stop that previous action and just merge topics to make it seem like it’s not as bad.
What does merging threads do to help? If a dev hasnt responded to a single one of those threads, what makes them think they will read through a 600+ thread.
If you want to protest then continue making new threads instead of posting in the mega it doesnt sound as bad feedback thread.
It’s very simple.
They are not discouraged from posting by the perceived forum toxicity. In fact, the toxicity would not even exist if they did post here more, as it grows out of the frustration with the lack of communication.
Whenever they do post, they always get smoke blown up their kitten. That security dude publicly banned one hacker out of hundreds ignored, and he got treated as the second coming. Admiration and applause.
The reason they don’t post here is that there is nothing to post. No current issues are being worked on, only EotM 2.0. Why would they come here and answer people’s threads with factual replies like “we’re not working on any fixes for that”, or “I can add that to the list, ETA for a solution is about 2 years”?
if I was a dev I wouldn’t post here either. No good ever comes from it these days even when they try to do something. It may be their own dang fault but this place has becomes a toxic cesspool of a very jaded player-base with repetitive topics and lack of reasonableness. There is a reason reddit threads gets more attention. Sadly this forum just isn’t worth employee time anymore.
Unfortunately, have to agree.
Sorry but I disagree.
A company can not lose control of its forums and just say “F it I will go somewhere else”. ANET is not just a forum goer that becomes hated by the community that can just pick their bags and move to another place.
The forums are meant to be the primary way of communicating with the community, so ANET should work to reestablish the communications here.
How? Take the backlash but continue to communicate.
They need to come here, deal with the backlash and eventually, once people realize they are being heard, they will start to become more productive and accepting – heck back lashing attitude would even become frowned upon rather than the “praising” it sometimes gets.
The community has their hand stretched towards ANET, they come here and say what they think. Problem is they have been left hanging for so long that some started to hold pitchforks and torches as well. ANET needs to reach out for those hands in the crowd that are still empty and get their help in convincing the others so this becomes a better place.
Just to add. After the new borderland maps were announced there were dev posts a full 24hours on reddit before anyone posted in their own forums. Wut?
And now we are all afk for a week because a PvP shoutcaster managed to push through a truly toxic event. Wut?
As long as you don’t go on reddit or facebook/twitter nothing will be acknowledged.
Theses wvw forums are the perfect way to keep the rage contained to a place NOBODY looks at.
Here’s an exemple:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3dqoco/are_you_an_exception_find_out_here/
Don’t hesitate to make more threads so we get the attention of other media/streamers/reviewers and therefore Anet.
EDIT: Started a friendly one myself:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3dtr39/a_cry_for_help_please_go_look_at_your_wvw_forums/
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Well ok it’s weekend everywhere.
if I was a dev I wouldn’t post here either. No good ever comes from it these days even when they try to do something. It may be their own dang fault but this place has becomes a toxic cesspool of a very jaded player-base with repetitive topics and lack of reasonableness. There is a reason reddit threads gets more attention. Sadly this forum just isn’t worth employee time anymore.
If they had paid attention to their “official” forums from the beginning the players wouldn’t have become nearly as jaded, hostile, and mistrusting as they are now.
Most players that fit the above criteria seem to have more feeling for the game that Anet has given us than Anet themselves, or at least for the game mode that Anet has given us.
It would bode very poorly for Anet if there were no one here criticizing them, because that would mean that no one cares anymore, and that Anet had lost thousands and thousands of players.
So what Anet really should do is to acknowledge that they have, perhaps, not given as much attention to WvW as the players feel they should have. They should then just flat out tell us that either they do or do not feel WvW is a priority to them, and let the cards fall where they may.
man you should check out the dungeon forums. They have an insane number of reds
They are necrod threads.
It would help if you open them to see or use the dev tracker function on the forums.
Speaking of reading, you may wana check whos been posting in them
Just trying to have some fun.
Guess that guy didnt read the old sticky Dont Do It thread in the WvW forums.
I mean one can understand, it was originally in this forum only, and now it has been removed so…
Well they read it, they just dont feel the need to post in this part of the forum. We hard kinda kitten them, and to be fair I think they kinda deserve that.
edit, is Hard is censored word now?
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