For me its a good start.We all knew that the same people who trolled at the Mill will come to troll here too.
It’s really not that bad after all it was build quite fast.
It will probably be improved in future when devs got time for it but till than 1 really vital thing need to be added – WALL or FENCE separating fighting area from viewers area.
First thing that came to my mind was the fence in Hoelbrak that prevents players from dropping down from the top side of the city (where the bankers and trading posts are placed).
Similar fence can be added around the fighting area with 2 entrances for teams in leading the middle area and 2 for coming viewers from outside so they don’t disturb the ongoing fight and just take a sit using the entrances that lead to viewers area.
Another thing I’ve noticed that the best view (for me) was sitting on top of one of the lion statues around.So the viewers area should be a bit higher than the fighting arena ground area.The Balcony was just way too far for watching.
- arena is not enough far away from entrance
- you shouldn’t get strait to the arena circle, but to grandstand
- grandstand should be separated from arena by invisiable walls
- there should be 3rd platform on the top, for a 3rd server
- flatforms on the top should have rails/invisiable walls or be invulnerable-zones
- not enough space for multiple GvGs
Dunno if it’s intended, but you get loot, wxp and kills for WvW achievement.
Kidna “overflaw-map” with a spawn-farm.
I think their idea behind it was to make a sort of “unofficial” spot for gvg, that isn’t in the current BL’s or EB. The same things above can be said about the windmill, it’s open to trolls, there aren’t any invulnerable spots, pugs can wander in to the battlefield, etc.
Do i think they could do better if they were going for an official structured gvg, sure of course they could, but this, i think is def better than nothing or what we had before.
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- arena is not enough far away from entrance
- you shouldn’t get strait to the arena circle, but to grandstand
- grandstand should be separated from arena by invisiable walls
- there should be 3rd platform on the top, for a 3rd server
- flatforms on the top should have rails/invisiable walls or be invulnerable-zones
Dunno if it’s intended, but you get loot, wxp and kills for WvW achievement.
Kidna “overflaw-map”
it just came out. its to be expected that trolls will be running around.
just wait until there is an actual GvG and see if any trolls will be alive then.
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4 Warriors, 3 Rangers, 3 Mesmers, 2 Engineers, 2 Guardians, and Necro, Thf, Ele
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Lol. At my server(and the 2 other servers in matchup) shortly after patch there were only people zerging at the start near the WPs. Didn’t even bother trying to find that new place with all that zerging near spawn.
As it stands, the south part of the bl is a better spot for GvG’s. In my matchup there was a guild camping the entrance to the new arena plus 50 pugs fighting right at the spawn. Until it calms down it’s useless for GvG’s.
It is not what you do, but how and why you do it that counts.
Are there any re-traiters or merchants or repair vendors in it? I’m at work so I’m at the mercy of the internet information.
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I am not always on top of the direction of every mode of the game, but was it ever given as a fact any area of the new map was intended for GvG? Just curious.
I am not always on top of the direction of every mode of the game, but was it ever given as a fact any area of the new map was intended for GvG? Just curious.
As I just posted in another thread, for GvG it’s a first step, though a baby step at best. EB JP needs to be removed from WvW completely. The entrance should be a portal in LA and the JP itself being a PvE/invulnerable zone. The arena floor area should be the only PvP zone. This accomplished two things, it prevents spectators from interfering. Also, it allows GvG’s to span all servers. I’m fairly certain that’s what GvG’ers want most.
Indeed, this new area is just a mess, for GvG matches it is simply not suitable at all!
I complained about a guild still doing GvG at the windmill on a bl, I then went to see this new area and I could see why. It was full of people doing 1v1.
now try doing a 20v20, or what if 6 guilds wanted to do 3 5v5 matches as the same time? There simply is not enough space to split between them. Accidental hits between different groups would be too hard to avoid, thus making this place already obsolete for gvg.
Maybe if there was some cross-server chat available you can get a match going, but you will still get groups bumping into each other if more than 2 guilds wanted to fight at the same time.
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WvW, we only care if it affects the servers we play on.
You think people will be there literally 24/7? You guys are such whiners. They disabled bloodlust and gave a nice open space to do your so called “GvG” and you complain about the players being in there. Get the hell off your high and mighty podium and take this spot. They didn’t have to do this at all. You guys are wrong in the head.
So sick of this toxic “GvG” community.
the only valid complaint i see is the fact that you can not have multiple GvG;s scheduled on the same day.
- arena is not enough far away from entrance
- you shouldn’t get strait to the arena circle, but to grandstand
- grandstand should be separated from arena by invisiable walls
- there should be 3rd platform on the top, for a 3rd server
- flatforms on the top should have rails/invisiable walls or be invulnerable-zones
Dunno if it’s intended, but you get loot, wxp and kills for WvW achievement.
Kidna “overflaw-map”
Do you even GvG bro? the place is 10x better than the windmill. Please stop complaining about something that the Dev’s had absolutely no intention of ever putting into this game. Need a tissue?
Im rubbish at pvp but the arena is quite a cool place to hang out – just standing around with people from other servers and watching the occasional fight break out, probably a bit more hectic there for the bigger servers.
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I think a few ambient here and there would help a ton for us Necromancers. I find myself low on life force every time I duel and am forced to ask enemy players for some.
Two things:
Platforms above arena need to be set invulnerable if possible.
On ours we had one world ganking everyone at the entrance so the other two couldn’t get in to even look without a zerg. No idea how to fix that but at least for the time being it is a bit of an issue if anyone wants to use this instead of behind the windmill unless someone who wants to use it for GvG has a pretty large guild to keep the camping in check. But who knows this might naturally correct itself… or not.
The Arena is designed to give a place for guilds to be able to GvG
- Without taking spaces on a BL
- Without being affected by Bloodlust
It is not meant to make GvG a game feature, it is just a kind of hot fix patch to make up for the dev saying to GvGers that they are breaking his game….
From what I saw/read/heard, it is exactly what they announced, a place where GvG might take place…
There’s just guilds camping the entrance at this point, it’s a great idea and I think the entire community appreciates that ANET is listening to the requests of the players but there needs to be a way to prevent this from happening.
I think a few ambient here and there would help a ton for us Necromancers. I find myself low on life force every time I duel and am forced to ask enemy players for some.
That’s my only complaint about it also, pretty hard to win fights with 0 life force.
It was obviously gonna be a mess on the release day, with everyone wanting to have a look and most of them having no respect for a duel or an even fight.
We can’t really judge how successful this place is until it’s been in the game for a few weeks. Hopefully by the end of Season 1 most people will be ignoring the place and it can be used for its intended purpose.
There are many many things I’d like to see added or improved, but as a quick-fix it’s a definite improvement and a welcome show of good will.
I think a few ambient here and there would help a ton for us Necromancers. I find myself low on life force every time I duel and am forced to ask enemy players for some.
That’s my only complaint about it also, pretty hard to win fights with 0 life force.
Why do you think Necro was the shunned red headed stepchild in GW1’s pvp? No corpses? No minions for YOU.
May have changed later, I dunno, I left after first 2.5 years.
I think a few ambient here and there would help a ton for us Necromancers. I find myself low on life force every time I duel and am forced to ask enemy players for some.
That’s my only complaint about it also, pretty hard to win fights with 0 life force.
Why do you think Necro was the shunned red headed stepchild in GW1’s pvp? No corpses? No minions for YOU.
May have changed later, I dunno, I left after first 2.5 years.
Also what about sigil stackers?
Sigil stacking affects all classes equally so not really an issue, and there were still some minion builds that worked in GW1 pvp with the jagged bones enchantment and shambling horrors.
This instance is pretty much separate from traditional wvw.
Allow the servers to communicate with each other via /say and /map chat in this area. Leave team chat for single server chat only.
That way guilds can more easily organize and communicate gvg setups and all three servers can call off trolls. Have the say/map chats signify which server any one person is from, as I illustrate below.
[IoJ]Starcommando: Hello, how is everyone tonight?
[DB]Tux: I’m doing well, how’re you?
[IoJ]Starcommando: I’m doing great! Looking to get away from the zergs for a while.
[FA]Shadow Bomb: Anyone want to 1v1, or setup a gvg?
[DB]Tux: Sure!
[IoJ]Starcommando: Yeah, sure!
[FA]Shadow Bomb: Great~
It’s no secret that people from different servers can communicate with each other if they really wanted to. In this area — an area intended for pvp/gwg/jumping puzzle — there’s no real point to restrict cross-server communication.
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I think a few ambient here and there would help a ton for us Necromancers. I find myself low on life force every time I duel and am forced to ask enemy players for some.
That’s my only complaint about it also, pretty hard to win fights with 0 life force.
Need a repair vendor, looks good, not sure about GvG’s or duels though. Everyone in my match up is getting killed by FA, yes all those red names are FA in the arena plus there is about another 15 at spawn.
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I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.
it’s new content so it will die down soon and just like before not many people will go there, give it a few weeks when things are more quite then we’ll see if it’s possible for gvg.
This arena has great potential from gvg to 1v1 and i have to say i really like it, they just really do need a trait and repair merchant to make it complete.
I like the layout of the arena, but dislike the 20 or so players spawn camping with 25 stacks. You can’t even leave the spawn without calling in guildmates to help bust through the glass cannon spawn campers.
I like it. A lot.
There are the usual trolls but nothing that can’t be dealt with – they mostly don’t even know how to play so they are a free kill.
I’ve even found some nice tricks that can be used in nasty situations
I think it is well done by ANET. It is really fun to both watch and participate in fights there. Plus direct access to OS gives people something to do while waiting for the queue.
thank you anet for this gift, it was truly the best gift you could give for thanksgiving and for that I am thankful that you have brought many delicious tears to our forum thread.
Aside from the trolls, the small fight imbalance of WvW really picks up. Love fighting those insanely tanky classes who can dish our lots of damage thanks to food buffs.
The arena looks nice, great for gvgs. But the amount of people trolling have made it completely useless for duels. Nobody from the enemy servers can get in because our server has a group of sad individuals just killing everyone at spawn. And should they pass that there’s a second group in the arena, running around killing everyone. Without some sort of safe invulnerability areas or something, I don’t see this arena being used for duels until all the trolling dies down.
I think a few ambient here and there would help a ton for us Necromancers. I find myself low on life force every time I duel and am forced to ask enemy players for some.
That’s my only complaint about it also, pretty hard to win fights with 0 life force.
Select minion to an utility skill. Summon it. Select some other skill to that slot. Repeat with other minion skills and profit.
I think a few ambient here and there would help a ton for us Necromancers. I find myself low on life force every time I duel and am forced to ask enemy players for some.
That’s my only complaint about it also, pretty hard to win fights with 0 life force.
Select minion to an utility skill. Summon it. Select some other skill to that slot. Repeat with other minion skills and profit.
AMEN! There’s a large population of players that have a serious deficit of honor and respect. Those trolling it today are a perfect example.
Maybe entering the JP lobby there should be a popup you have to answer before being able to move. The question being a choice of Combatant or Non-Combatant. This way either you have a red name tag or permanent green name tag. From your perspective everyone would be green as well. The only way you could fight would be to leave and reenter the JP. Giving everyone player preference. We used to be able to pop town clothes to show we’re spectators and not accidentally going to interfere. Beyond that, I used to unequip weapons so I accidentally didn’t pop one off while watching a GvG. Of course, there would be one kitten on the hills that has to start trouble and you’d be stuck in combat unable to equip one to fight back. The noncombatant choice would prevent and protect both the GvG and the spectator.
Yes, ambient’s in certain area’s would be great. Not many though as thieves would exploit the heck out of them for stealth. Think about lowlands camp……
They said that when they’ll do GvG it “Won’t be an half-done thing”. Looks far from half done to me…. more like 5% done.
They did something for a game mode that isn’t remotely accessible through any kind of menu.
But even as a simple area it seriously lack in the visual department. Just compare this new area to some of the Guild missions areas for example (that would serve better as guild halls for battles). The lights/shadows aren’t very interesting.
The area is completely flat, therefore it doesn’t offer any variety for vertical strategy or cover (pillars, trees, bushes)
The environment is not interactive. How about a central area surrounded by a lava pit where only 10 players can enter from each side via a bridge? Or some waterfall/poll somewhere. Anyway a defitive lack of energy seems to be around when it’s question of re-implementing the game mode that made Guild Wars 1 live.
Even with the new map coming up I doubt that it will keep people playing WvW for long unless it has an impact on the score.
They said that when they’ll do GvG it “Won’t be an half-done thing”. Looks far from half done to me…. more like 5% done.
Please DO put this arena in context.
this is just a QUICK-FIX, not a game mode…
IF and WHEN they will implement GvG, it will be a game mode.
Some expect it to be like GW1 GvG’s, other expect it to be an instanced are where actual GW2 GvG can take place and will be tracked.
No matter what they do, people whine, and whine again. Without even having a single idea of why something was implemented in the first place…
So please, go read the firsts announcements of this arena, so that you know it’s just a quick fix to give a place for GvGers to go, until they can make it a game mode, which would take way more than somewhat a month and a half to put up…
The arena is cool but it’s way to easy for trolls to troll. It’s a simple matter to knock people off of the balconies (which are presumably for observation) to their deaths. And every time I get ganked by 3 thieves I get repair fees and have to walk all the way back past more people who will try and gank me. It’s not like I’ve lost a fortune, but it just seems unfair to charge people money for getting killed by trolls. :/
At the very least the balconies should get actual rails so observers can’t get unexpectedly launched to their doom.
Lol. At my server(and the 2 other servers in matchup) shortly after patch there were only people zerging at the start near the WPs. Didn’t even bother trying to find that new place with all that zerging near spawn.
yeah, i just love the un ending brawls in the spawn area.
while we’re at it, should remove the effects of consumables in the Arena.
Food is required to optimize builds. To me it’s fine to use. Especially when/if I ever go in there I’d probably be coming from WvW where I’d have time left of them.
