Guild Wars 2

With the release of the new Season, the amount of people in the OS JP trolling one another has increased. IT has gone from ganking people, to spawn camping. I am making this to remind people about the OS JP etiquette. I believe some level of respect should be shown in the JP. Let’s try and keep some class, and have fun. Fighting is saved for EBG, BL, EtoM, and the GvG arena.

- If others don’t attack you, don’t attack them
- If you see another being trolled, help them (even if they are from another server)
- Offer Mes ports if you can

Let’s respect one another, for honor is important.

Was going to say that this is a duplicate thread, but I can’t find the one with almost the same title.

There is none, get over it.

Respect, honor, blah blah it’s more fun to just go crazy and mess with the people trying to get the achievement for the jp right away,,,,

I know there are trolls, but I like to keep my honor. If I troll others, it makes the guild I’m in look bad.

I got the achieve, and I helped others not even from my server. Yet, I guess I could be that 1% of players that like to respect others in OS.

Its a pvp area and you want to get pvp rewards, so do some pvp. Its also way more fun when you have to fight yourself through the jp. I see so many people not even defending themselves, which is so sad because the jp offers a pretty unique and awesome pvp experience.

OS is a pvp area, fight or die.

You want a reward for doing pvp, then better be prepared to do some pvp. And respect peoples choice to pvp in a pvp area. Just cause you run away or do a little wave doesnt mean you should get a free pass.

It’s two-fold. The grand wizards at Anet put traps along the puzzle so people could try to kill enemies. If memory serves, at release you could even build siege there (maybe I recall incorrectly?). So obviously fighting there was part of the design from the get go.

However, the other side of the coin is, that we all know there are people who are inexperienced in WvW and go there for the achievement. There are people who take hours to get through those tricky jumps. If you want to attack those easy prey, you can. The design supports it. The ultimate decision comes down to whether you have enough honour and respect to not ruin someone else’s time for your own cheap laugh.

I don’t judge people based on their decision, I just do what I know is right.

ANet deleted my JP Etiquette thread that’s why you can’t find it anymore

Banzie.5248:

ANet deleted my JP Etiquette thread that’s why you can’t find it anymore

I’m sorry about that. I started kitten by naming those campers for what they really were and the mod closed it.

Terrahero.9358:

OS is a pvp area, fight or die.

You want a reward for doing pvp, then better be prepared to do some pvp. And respect peoples choice to pvp in a pvp area. Just cause you run away or do a little wave doesnt mean you should get a free pass.

Ganking achievement nubs in a JP is not PvP.

Oeko.6470:

Its a pvp area and you want to get pvp rewards, so do some pvp. Its also way more fun when you have to fight yourself through the jp. I see so many people not even defending themselves, which is so sad because the jp offers a pretty unique and awesome pvp experience.

There is a dueling area in OS where you can fight people who actually want to fight. The ones in the JP want to jump not fight.

Knocking people of the ledges is more fun than your “honor”.
It’s a game. Play it for fun.

If you have honour, then you will fight to the death. For death in battle is honourable.

There is nothing honourable about cowering in a corner and hoping someone wont attack you. It would be disrespectful to let someone run past without giving them battle, for it would imply that the person is beneath you and not worthy of battle.

If you want to be that disrespectful to them and dishonour yourself, then go ahead, but I shall give everyone in the JP basic respect by giving them battle.

Oye, it’s a pvp zone. Don’t like it? Don’t go there.

Or better? Bring a lot of friends.

Obsidian Sanctum is under the WvW category and is a PvP zone. This topic gets repeated over and over again. There is no etiquette. Kill or be killed. We camped the top of the JP for a good hour last night before the other server rallied up a group and took us down. Good stuff.

nevilledevil,
appreciate what you’re trying to do here,

but two other whole servers are dedicated to stopping you from doing what you want to do in this zone.

you will get spawncamped by thieves.
you will get killed in the JP,
you will have a bad time if you are only coming to do one thing and get the achievements because none of the WvW players will want to help you to do that, because they’re trying to WIN the tournament, not just get the meta completed.

Hamster.4861:

nevilledevil,
appreciate what you’re trying to do here,

but two other whole servers are dedicated to stopping you from doing what you want to do in this zone.

you will get spawncamped by thieves.
you will get killed in the JP,
you will have a bad time if you are only coming to do one thing and get the achievements because none of the WvW players will want to help you to do that, because they’re trying to WIN the tournament, not just get the meta completed.

You don’t win anything by camping the JP. You don’t earn your server anything by camping the JP. WvW players don’t go to the JP, they are too busy WvWing.

Julie Yann.5379:

Hamster.4861:

nevilledevil,
appreciate what you’re trying to do here,

but two other whole servers are dedicated to stopping you from doing what you want to do in this zone.

you will get spawncamped by thieves.
you will get killed in the JP,
you will have a bad time if you are only coming to do one thing and get the achievements because none of the WvW players will want to help you to do that, because they’re trying to WIN the tournament, not just get the meta completed.

You don’t win anything by camping the JP. You don’t earn your server anything by camping the JP. WvW players don’t go to the JP, they are too busy WvWing.

We do win things. Loot bags and a good laugh

kmaeropa.3986:

Julie Yann.5379:

Hamster.4861:

nevilledevil,
appreciate what you’re trying to do here,

but two other whole servers are dedicated to stopping you from doing what you want to do in this zone.

you will get spawncamped by thieves.
you will get killed in the JP,
you will have a bad time if you are only coming to do one thing and get the achievements because none of the WvW players will want to help you to do that, because they’re trying to WIN the tournament, not just get the meta completed.

You don’t win anything by camping the JP. You don’t earn your server anything by camping the JP. WvW players don’t go to the JP, they are too busy WvWing.

We do win things. Loot bags and a good laugh

I earn way more bags and laughs raiding with my guild on the BL and actually contribute something to my server while doing it. JP camping is for trolls.

Julie Yann.5379:

kmaeropa.3986:

Julie Yann.5379:

Hamster.4861:

nevilledevil,
appreciate what you’re trying to do here,

but two other whole servers are dedicated to stopping you from doing what you want to do in this zone.

you will get spawncamped by thieves.
you will get killed in the JP,
you will have a bad time if you are only coming to do one thing and get the achievements because none of the WvW players will want to help you to do that, because they’re trying to WIN the tournament, not just get the meta completed.

You don’t win anything by camping the JP. You don’t earn your server anything by camping the JP. WvW players don’t go to the JP, they are too busy WvWing.

We do win things. Loot bags and a good laugh

I earn way more bags and laughs raiding with my guild on the BL and actually contribute something to my server while doing it. JP camping is for trolls.

Good for you. It’s a matter of personal opinion. You enjoy raiding and I enjoy pushing people off the cliffs of the jp.

NevilleDevil.4530:

With the release of the new Season, the amount of people in the OS JP trolling one another has increased. IT has gone from ganking people, to spawn camping. I am making this to remind people about the OS JP etiquette. I believe some level of respect should be shown in the JP. Let’s try and keep some class, and have fun. Fighting is saved for EBG, BL, EtoM, and the GvG arena.

Let’s not respect one another, for honor is not important in a video game.

I agree

NevilleDevil.4530:

I am making this to remind people about the OS JP etiquette.

There is none.

NevilleDevil.4530:

I believe some level of respect should be shown in the JP.

Good for you, doesn’t really matter to me.

NevilleDevil.4530:

Fighting is saved for EBG, BL, EtoM, and the GvG arena.

Were this true, you wouldn’t be able to attack people in the JP.

NevilleDevil.4530:

Let’s respect one another, for honor is important.

Not, not really. Especially in a video game.

Oh all the tears make me happy.

NevilleDevil, thank you for keeping the original etiquette alive.

It was a fine thing back in early days when folks would respect fellow players trying to do the jump puzzle.

Don’t know how long these other players have been playing GW2. They probably don’t remember that etiquette, nor do they probably care. These style players (not real WvW, nor real PvP players) came in and found they could do what other unskilled players have done In other games: gank. That’s their playstyle, in an arena where they can’t compete otherwise. Happens in every game. Luckily, it’s a small but annoying percentage of overall players.

Aside from them, you can find a few skilled duelists in there, but it’s pretty rare. And I understand there are some groups that enjoy a remnant of what you could call FFA play. Most games these days do not support Free For All play because it just isn’t a successful business model, so players that enjoy that playstyle have to create it wherever they can.

That’s not rationalizing that play, just explaining it.

Last time my guild and I were in there, we continued to help other players, even from other servers. If we feel the need to go in there again, we’d do the same: honoring the original etiquette in a zone where enemies could acknowledge each other, yet not need to prove anything.

I went to the JP on my off raid time. I just don’t see the fun is just taking advantage of people not on the open field. I don’t mind helping others in the JP, even if their from another server. The open field is a whole different story, and that is fair game for fighting.

Last night I went into EtoM, got 500+ kills on NA reset with the guild that I run with. So much more fun just running around trying to gank people.

It is a “PvP” map, and it is a JP. Some people suck at JP, and other’s don’t. I see both sides of the argument. It sucks if you die when your 90% done the JP, but it is what it is.

This might be a PvP zone but necros throwing “reaper’s mark” at players at the end of dark room it’s called griefing.

Though most of the community i find around this JP tries to wave and go by without attacking there is always a jerk or 2 with too much time in its hands it seems…

What might be interesting is if they left the traps, but turned off the PVP. So you can still play against the other servers with the traps, but straight up fights aren’t allowed.

Oh I know the feeling… I got fed up with Dzragonur server managing to get a million WvW players on our map.. it was like a scene out of starship troopers.. so I went to obsidian sanctum to do a jumping puzzle made myself invisible but no there was more DZ players who killed me. I thought this isn’t fun so I stopped playing and haven’t played Gw2 since.

Really ? This thread again ? It is a PvP zone, PvP happens in PvP zones. There are several other way to complete the achievement that do not include JP’s.

OS after reset
enjoy guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ8zkCNidps&feature=youtu.be

All I know is the people “camping” our TC spawn from BG today only succeeded in helping me finish the 300 kills achievement in an hour while I sat in the point safe from harm.

There is no such thing as obsi sanctum etiquette. I went through hell to get my achi. I’ll make sure my enemies will go through even worse. Revenge is sweet.

Nuzt.7894:

Really ? This thread again ? It is a PvP zone, PvP happens in PvP zones. There are several other way to complete the achievement that do not include JP’s.

First it is a WvW zone if it were PvP I would not see so many nerf food, dire op, and assorted WvW isolated complaints.

Onto the main topic anywhere there are both Jumping Puzzles (and achievement for completing them) and the potential for Players to conflict with each other there will be people that will want to camp them.

Oh boy, this kitten again.

If you’re entering WvW, be ready to get ganked, run over, rammed up the behind (no lube), kill others, collect loot bags, jump on your opponents corpses and skill lag.

If you’re there for JP, GTFO.

I got killed in OS and I brought more people and killed them back… part of the gameeee don’t hate.

If you’re inclined the get the achievement wait a few weeks until the initial rush dies down and it should be relatively safe to do the JP.

Whether you want a fight or not, if you can’t handle fighting then stay out of PvP areas.

If it’s red it’s dead….. That ia the only rule in pvp

Go back to pve. Let the pvpers play the way pvp is intended.

The OS etiquette:
-Don’t interrupt duels at the duel spots, or finish a downed foe who was clearly involved in a duel
-Don’t grief GvGs
-Don’t spawncamp
-Don’t expect people not to attack you

How can you expect people to not interrupt “duels” while on the other hand saying that people should always expect getting attacked ?

It’s telling that people don’t want beeing griefed but are perfectly fine griefing others while calling that “Ettiquette”.

Sorelus Imperion.3469:

How can you expect people to not interrupt “duels” while on the other hand saying that people should always expect getting attacked ?

It’s telling that people don’t want beeing griefed but are perfectly fine griefing others while calling that “Ettiquette”.

He is talking about in the arena. The JP is open season.

Jamais vu.5284:

The OS etiquette:
-Don’t interrupt duels at the duel spots, or finish a downed foe who was clearly involved in a duel
-Don’t grief GvGs
-Don’t spawncamp
-Don’t expect people not to attack you

there has never been etiquette in the wvw Jumping puzzles. where do you people come up with these ideas.

Banzie.5248:

He is talking about in the arena. The JP is open season.

You are making an artificial distinction where there is none. There is no such thing as an “arena” where the rules suddenly change. If you have to expect people attacking you in a PvP area you have to expect attacking you everywhere within that PvP area regardless of wether you fancy yourself a ganker, duelist of GvG fighter. Rules and Etiquette only work on the basis of a mutual understanding and compromise. You can’t expect people not to disrupt your duels while disrupting their attempts to solve the jumping puzzle.

If you want PvP where you don’t have to fear a third party intervening then structured PvP is the way to go or you have for the better or worse come to an understanding with whatever servers you are currently up against. Whatever is agreed upon in such an understanding regarldess of wether it is formal or informal can be called Etiquette. It’s the sort of spoken and unspoken rules you have to follow if you don’t want to alienate other involved parties.

Judging by how most players actually act within the JP not attacking each other in fact has become part of the Etiquette. That there are people who have no regard for it and in fact draw satisfaction from the violation of such social rules is only natural. Some do it once in a while for a bit of fun and others have developed a pathological attraction to unsocial behaviour.

Obsidian Sanctum is a WvW area. The puzzle is designed for the sociopath to have a field day, so you have to expect the worst. Our server had Maguuma camp the end section for several hours yesterday, no one on our side could get through during that time. A few hours later though I was able to get all the way through without seeing a single enemy and get that pesky achievement. Even the trolls and griefers have to take a break from time to time, take advantage.

Jamais vu.5284:

The OS etiquette:
-Don’t interrupt duels at the duel spots, or finish a downed foe who was clearly involved in a duel
-Don’t grief GvGs
-Don’t spawncamp
-Don’t expect people not to attack you

You fourth rule runs counter to your first two.

On the servers I play, usually there is an “understanding” of not attacking one another… more like: “we both wanna get this puzzle done and don’t wanna waste time fighting for 1 lousy kill”.

However, now that it’s a zergfest where spawncamping can get you many kills (well, more than usual in the JP) in a short amount of time, you can’t blame people for doing just that. I was lucky I got in close after reset and it was only a handful of people that were actually doing the puzzle.

The season is long and people will leave after a while when their achievements are done. Just wait it out or go in during off-peak hours.

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love nsp mad props

Talyn.3295:

If it’s red it’s dead….. That ia the only rule in pvp

That’s right. No mercy even towards uplevels. It is all about the fun and not about bringing real world morals to a game in a pvp environment.

Julie Yann.5379:

Hamster.4861:

nevilledevil,
appreciate what you’re trying to do here,

but two other whole servers are dedicated to stopping you from doing what you want to do in this zone.

you will get spawncamped by thieves.
you will get killed in the JP,
you will have a bad time if you are only coming to do one thing and get the achievements because none of the WvW players will want to help you to do that, because they’re trying to WIN the tournament, not just get the meta completed.

You don’t win anything by camping the JP. You don’t earn your server anything by camping the JP. WvW players don’t go to the JP, they are too busy WvWing.

Exactly, dedicated wvw’ers are out contributing to their servers, not trolling pve players in a jumping puzzle. It needs to just be renamed what it really is:
Sanctum for Trolls that Can’t Hack Real PvP

Bran.7425:

Nuzt.7894:

Really ? This thread again ? It is a PvP zone, PvP happens in PvP zones. There are several other way to complete the achievement that do not include JP’s.

First it is a WvW zone if it were PvP I would not see so many nerf food, dire op, and assorted WvW isolated complaints.

Onto the main topic anywhere there are both Jumping Puzzles (and achievement for completing them) and the potential for Players to conflict with each other there will be people that will want to camp them.

Your confusing PvP with SPvP, it is a player vs. player zone, just as WvW is also a Player vs. player zone. As in a zone where you fight other player among other things.

I am one of the JP griefers. When someone tries to do it to me, I just kill em. Threads like these are what I live for. Also, i’m not in actual wvw cause of queues.

Oh look it’s this thread again.

There is no such thing as OS etiquette. Get over it. I just got camped and killed by Gandarans in the arena. kitten happens.

Can’t really blame them either. They must have horrible queues to the other WvW areas and EotM gets boring pretty quickly.

Now I’ll see if I can rally enough people to break through and return the favor.