Guild Wars 2

After two weeks of wvw in this match up, this is what i saw:

Gandara = Werewolves, nobody is around during prime time. Only wins because of night caps as a result, aka pro tactic. Actually manage to stand decently in 1 vs 2 ratio fights, which happens all the time. Piken and Augury should try using silver dyes.

Piken = Culling mastery level 10/10. Aside from abusing this in any possible way and as much as they can, i can’t deny they have some really good coordination in general. At night, they actually seems to do what they call “sleeping”, a strange ritual in which you rest your body and soul in preparation for another day.

Augury Rock = Infinizergs, the overmind probably ended up in the augury rock part of the mists when he died.

/grabs some of kinkys popcorn…

Go to sleep Kali. We need to be awake for the nightcapping

This is amusing
All 3 servers are good or we wouldn’t be in t3 3 weeks in a row and from what i have seen pikens and AR’s prime time is around 2-3 hours before ours. I also did a little bit of night capping last week and i really think your all over exaggerating what you think is night capping is most likely just time zone differences. about the population look to me to be an excuse some people trying to us.

But hey its been fun so hope to have more fun this week

To be honest unlike my previous post, i think it’s a good match up and i’m glad we’re having a third round, at least it’s never really one sided and huge fights or small fights are generally interesting.

I just wish we weren’t red AGAIN for personal and obvious reasons.

Nothing wrong with Red, Piken has been red for 8weeks so far this year. It’s been so confusing for us to be green and blue, all the names are different, not to mention when you look at the map and see red then realise it isn’t you this time.
@Brahn nightcapping is when people play at night when the smallest population is on and they PvDoor(not saying this is always the case so don’t jump on me) everything to get points. Even on your forums a few people have been saying they’ve stayed up late just to nightcap so don’t go with timezone differences, please. It’s a valid tactic as are all tactics during war so no-one should take offence about being a nightcapper.

My Pug zerg once more found the Russians tonight Had 30-35 again but I will admit, when we took your T3 hills, we had more :P But that was the only time we had that number while I was commanding. Afterwards everyone dispersed once more to repair, defend and scout bringing our numbers back down to the 30 mark again.

Best fight I would say was by Briar which seemed to be my 35 Vs 25-30 of you? Either way it was a fun back and forth that lasted a good 10 minutes and ended with both sides with heavy casualties

Puru.4217: At night, they actually seems to do what they call “sleeping”, a strange ritual in which you rest your body and soul in preparation for another day.

:) good one

KA
piken square

Dont know what “primetime” Puru is in, but we have good presence during the day. Gandara dont go outman buffed after 17:00 more or less. Sometimes ofc on the occasional odd map.

And he claims to be red, as Gandara. So he cant been a Gandaran very long if this is the way he characterize our fighting style.

Thanks for the fights in EB VII, jeez you guys are good at group movement!

KinkyWarrior.1879:

My Pug zerg once more found the Russians tonight Had 30-35 again but I will admit, when we took your T3 hills, we had more :P But that was the only time we had that number while I was commanding. Afterwards everyone dispersed once more to repair, defend and scout bringing our numbers back down to the 30 mark again.

Best fight I would say was by Briar which seemed to be my 35 Vs 25-30 of you? Either way it was a fun back and forth that lasted a good 10 minutes and ended with both sides with heavy casualties

We had 15/20 Nugos/Allies + some pugs.

When was this fight at briar? I actually don’t remember it… Most fights we had were at Cliffside, Garrison, Bay and 1 or 2 at Bluelake. I was streaming, but maybe it happened when I was afk for 30 minutes…?

And I’m pretty sure more than once you had a lot more than 35 (especially after like 7 or 8pm ish), you were zerging indeed. But interesting fights nonetheless

Uhh it was between Briar —> Bay You caught about 1/3rd of my group fighting AR and slaughtered them then we had a rather extended fight with the rest.

Probably after 8pm as I kept checking supply levels in the group (for obvious reasons :P) and I never got over 35 when I checked (excluding Hills). I realise that you have to be right on top but we had everyone on TS so 99.9% of who was about was on top. Cliffside we probably had a bit more. When I first joined the map we had a hole in our Garrison so not really anywhere else people would have been.

But for Briar + Bay I would definitely say we had closer to 30 than 35. Although there was another commander in Bay 90% of the time but by the time my group arrived you had already cleared house and got on the wall. Then again I suppose anyone else on the TS may have sneaked in the group before the fights. But I liked fighting you guys, you hit like a train and even with our numbers, we have to be careful or you’d wipe us :P

Nice fights last night Augury!

4 versus… how many?

KinkyWarrior.1879:

Uhh it was between Briar —> Bay You caught about 1/3rd of my group fighting AR and slaughtered them then we had a rather extended fight with the rest.

Probably after 8pm as I kept checking supply levels in the group (for obvious reasons :P) and I never got over 35 when I checked (excluding Hills). I realise that you have to be right on top but we had everyone on TS so 99.9% of who was about was on top. Cliffside we probably had a bit more. When I first joined the map we had a hole in our Garrison so not really anywhere else people would have been.

But for Briar + Bay I would definitely say we had closer to 30 than 35. Although there was another commander in Bay 90% of the time but by the time my group arrived you had already cleared house and got on the wall. Then again I suppose anyone else on the TS may have sneaked in the group before the fights. But I liked fighting you guys, you hit like a train and even with our numbers, we have to be careful or you’d wipe us :P

Yeah there were moments where you had less and other times when you seemed to have more. I remember some fights between Briar and Bay. We got wiped a few times though. Our pugs are not on TS/VT with us (Russian guild, so even if they were, chances are slim they would understand it anyways) so we have to rely on them to just follow the commander. A lot of those big zerg fights ended up in just 15 people that were on vent together, against all of you :P

We had to play very precise too, or we’d be swallowed by you XD

i don’t know how to name this, I’ll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjncnuVe0dU

so did you decide to draw straws yet?

Riverside are very kitten off after end of last week… where AG were light on numbers before reset (pve events) and a small handful of AG players conspiared with BB allowing them get points easier and pipping RS to 1st place… so they respond with 50 man rush at 5am with multi golems and going full out since then.

Best chance in awhile for one of you to get relegated <3

Centrix.4065:

KinkyWarrior.1879:

Uhh it was between Briar —> Bay You caught about 1/3rd of my group fighting AR and slaughtered them then we had a rather extended fight with the rest.

Probably after 8pm as I kept checking supply levels in the group (for obvious reasons :P) and I never got over 35 when I checked (excluding Hills). I realise that you have to be right on top but we had everyone on TS so 99.9% of who was about was on top. Cliffside we probably had a bit more. When I first joined the map we had a hole in our Garrison so not really anywhere else people would have been.

But for Briar + Bay I would definitely say we had closer to 30 than 35. Although there was another commander in Bay 90% of the time but by the time my group arrived you had already cleared house and got on the wall. Then again I suppose anyone else on the TS may have sneaked in the group before the fights. But I liked fighting you guys, you hit like a train and even with our numbers, we have to be careful or you’d wipe us :P

Yeah there were moments where you had less and other times when you seemed to have more. I remember some fights between Briar and Bay. We got wiped a few times though. Our pugs are not on TS/VT with us (Russian guild, so even if they were, chances are slim they would understand it anyways) so we have to rely on them to just follow the commander. A lot of those big zerg fights ended up in just 15 people that were on vent together, against all of you :P

We had to play very precise too, or we’d be swallowed by you XD

Part of me felt bad for using such numbers sometimes but meh it happens. I did try to lower them by having camp squads, tower scouts, small groups defending/doing other stuff.

qweman.5298:

i don’t know how to name this, I’ll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjncnuVe0dU

You can call it death? :p

qweman.5298:

i don’t know how to name this, I’ll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjncnuVe0dU

Pardon my French but errrr.. It’s a disgrace you can actualy kill something. I hope you know you have actualy 3 skills when you go in plagueform but I guess when you blob you can just autowalk and turn your mouse around, easymode. Your dmg output is ridiculous too.

AR your zerging and gank squad abilities never cease to amaze me!! Highlights so far tonight was single-handily re-routing that 20+ Zergball that decided it was more important to chase my level 21 Warrior 1/2 way across the map instead of pushing onto that tower you were supposed to be capping!!!! Awesome, I just wished I frapsed it lol

Oh and a special mention to those 5 man plus gank squads that just sit at the sentries of borderlands ganking random uplevelled players, really shows your skill set off!!!

It’s not all bad though, I had the pleasure of duelling am AR Mesmer / Thief and Ele late last night who amazingly didn’t like to zerg and had some serious skill, hat’s off to those guys!!

KinkyWarrior.1879:

Part of me felt bad for using such numbers sometimes but meh it happens. I did try to lower them by having camp squads, tower scouts, small groups defending/doing other stuff.

No worries, the russian mentality is not to give up and never run away from a fight, unless it would cost the loss of a keep or something :P No matter how outmanned, victory or death! (victory prefered)

Wanna say tnx to both AR and Gandara for some great fights in Gan.Bl this evening GoW had alot of fun. By far the best Night in this matchup. Special tnx to ODA & Echo 2 very nice guilds.. Echo for always hitting us just after we fought ODA

Cheers,Rave GoW

Centrix.4065:

No worries, the russian mentality is not to give up and never run away from a fight, unless it would cost the loss of a keep or something :P No matter how outmanned, victory or death! (victory prefered)

Seeing the numbers the russian zerg have sometimes you wont ever have a problem with being outmanned

Just to clear this , we(TDA) caped piken bl last week with 4 ppl , when we started we wiped 5 man grp on a sup camp , then took all keeps without beeing interupted could be cause french had all quagan nodes or there was no one , all i know after we took garison somewhat 10ish mins later 15 man group showed up to retake it according to a guildie.
We dont stay online late but was bored and we had that golem so … decided to stir stuff up.

Also dont understand whats with all the qq here , i fought piken on GH and Gandara for quite some week’s and it has been always fun , did you change your attitude in t2 as well? Dont get me wrong , i still like fighting you , but forum wars are bit to much -.-
I dont know how’s our nightcap stuff i’m not there , was one night , and we didnt have that many.
Try beeing in our boots , were always outnumbered as a guild , but still we dont hold hands with other guilds , we do flank and assist but dont run holding hands like i’ve seen some do.
I think most guilds that fought us know that for a fact , we also dont run away even tho we meet 20ish HoB =)

We run 5-10 people in wvw , and i dont feel like runing away from huge raids “zergs” if you want , my guys know it dunno why they still put up with me for that
Could be cause sometiems we die and sometimes we end up stomping that grp ….

more blob 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 fun game.

ps: for the one who dont have autoattack.

All day long it seems PS and AR have been double teaming us in EBG. As soon as one goes for a tower, the other appears for another tower.

PS attacked our Keep, got into inner, meanwhile, AR creeps in and took Ogrewatch and almost had Veloka, with four superior Rams too.

AR, grow some balls and attack Piken occasionally, show us that you just don’t ride around in PS’s shadow.

Yes, it’s a fair tactic, I know… just calling you out to see if you can man up and actually take a tower without PS, and without paying to win with superior siege.

… Well … I had a marvelous night GvG’ing Black Hope today Also having a bit of fun with HoB while spectating YaK and BH

Esprit Dumort.3109:

All day long it seems PS and AR have been double teaming us in EBG. As soon as one goes for a tower, the other appears for another tower.

lol

I can assure u that we were not working with AR at all… the truth is we (Piken) wiped ‘Le Monobus’ into double figures tonight and i think they got sick of dying so much so they gave up trying to hit us… hence they moved onto gandara side of the map. I guess its a valid tactic to join in the party when a keeps under attack right?… afterall its done at SM all the time…

Esprit Dumort.3109:

PS attacked our Keep, got into inner, meanwhile, AR creeps in and took Ogrewatch and almost had Veloka, with four superior Rams too.

I was in the team that got into your (Gandara) outter keep and our main objective was to kill your trebs, which we did… taking the keep wouldve been a bonus but u called in help from other maps right… funny how your Outmanned went off when we got into your keep

Esprit Dumort.3109:

Yes, it’s a fair tactic, I know… just calling you out to see if you can man up and actually take a tower without PS, and without paying to win with superior siege.

This is funny cos only last night we were discussing how AR can only attack with massive numbers of Seige… and on the flipside they can only defend cos they build massive amounts of seige inside forts too.

On Piken we r lucky if more than 1 person in the zerg has some rams kitten lol

Rookni.2469:

Seeing the numbers the russian zerg have sometimes you wont ever have a problem with being outmanned

Lmao. I’ll just take it as a compliment, you saying we have a large zerg

climbatize.8729:

We run 5-10 people in wvw , and i dont feel like runing away from huge raids “zergs” if you want , my guys know it dunno why they still put up with me for that
Could be cause sometiems we die and sometimes we end up stomping that grp ….

It could be because we are all insane! Also, running in this game only lasts so long. Half the time we try, we bump into another zerg anyway. Better try and fight the first one!

Centrix.4065:

Rookni.2469:

Seeing the numbers the russian zerg have sometimes you wont ever have a problem with being outmanned

Lmao. I’ll just take it as a compliment, you saying we have a large zerg

Stop thinking I mean that NUG alone is a zerg. Its your total number versus the numbers you meet in your primetime that makes it a zerg. But this is like beating my head against the wall trying to get people to understand.

Ravezaar.4951:

Wanna say tnx to both AR and Gandara for some great fights in Gan.Bl this evening GoW had alot of fun. By far the best Night in this matchup. Special tnx to ODA & Echo 2 very nice guilds.. Echo for always hitting us just after we fought ODA

Cheers,Rave GoW

Agreed Rav, would be nice to catch them guilds alone next time we roll. See how they fair with no backup ;-)

Some great fights, not all won by us but definitely all great fun.

Earendhil/Jazzy Roarhide

Good fights yesterday [EVO]… too bad for the trains occasionally overwhelming us

Earendhil.1532:

Ravezaar.4951:

Wanna say tnx to both AR and Gandara for some great fights in Gan.Bl this evening GoW had alot of fun. By far the best Night in this matchup. Special tnx to ODA & Echo 2 very nice guilds.. Echo for always hitting us just after we fought ODA

Cheers,Rave GoW

Agreed Rav, would be nice to catch them guilds alone next time we roll. See how they fair with no backup ;-)

Some great fights, not all won by us but definitely all great fun.

Earendhil/Jazzy Roarhide

Yeap, It’s such a shame to just know the other is near when you see one of those two guilds.. Im pretty sure you both are decent guilds on your own.. you could achieve way more when you split up.

Also, was nice working with you, GoW.. Let’s try for even better communication next time

Centrix.4065:

Rookni.2469:

Seeing the numbers the russian zerg have sometimes you wont ever have a problem with being outmanned

Lmao. I’ll just take it as a compliment, you saying we have a large zerg

How would you call that group that comprised of NuG, SPRT and dozen others who conquered Garrison on Gandara BL yesterday with 2 omega golems? We can call it blob if you prefer it that way…

gabal.4520:

Centrix.4065:

Rookni.2469:

Seeing the numbers the russian zerg have sometimes you wont ever have a problem with being outmanned

Lmao. I’ll just take it as a compliment, you saying we have a large zerg

How would you call that group that comprised of NuG, SPRT and dozen others who conquered Garrison on Gandara BL yesterday with 2 omega golems? We can call it blob if you prefer it that way…

Those were 2 different raids that came together. We go our seperate ways and you only saw us together sometimes, like at Garrison. Sometimes the smaller groups come together too, it’s normal. We only zerg sometimes and you zerg most of the time. So don’t complain please, you don’t see me complain about it.

How come high and very high population servers complain about numbers form medium one?

Kinda funny

Guys you have huge potential to recruit and train new people to your guilds if u feel you are too light for play in T3 so do it.

Don’t forget … 15 man raid on voice chat with smart tactic can do much more like 40 people blob where most run random or in bad builds. But if you clash head to head with other guild raid which have 5 or 10 more outcome is simple. Timing of attack and catch enemy where they not ready to fight is only way to win against fatter grup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7GaT2qWwpfg

We win this fight only due surprise attack and keeping pressure on pug while guild raid was forced to regroup, of course other defenders from keep join us but on time when we get control on field all ready. So you can change way of fight to your favor with small raid if you do it smart.

We really had a blast yesterday evening in AR borders during our guild event. There were just so many different PS and AR groups roaming around and we got into fights all over the map. Some really fun 3-way fights occurred inside Hills and Cragtop with more people constantly jumping into the fray, and another memorable one was when we fought for like 20+ mins non-stop inside Bay lord’s room until we finally managed to cap it. I found it funny how we used the same catas 3 times to assist in taking down the outer northwest gate of Bay, I suppose they were too well hidden… …until someone following us placed a treb build site out in the open right next to them :P

I think over the course of the evening we fought with XT, SFRJ, TNTD, HoB, VII, BLAK and PSY. (Sorry if some guilds were left out, we just had so many different battles!) Many of us stayed way past our usual raidtime, so thank you all for good times!

Khrums.3765:

How come high and very high population servers complain about numbers form medium one?

Really? Still not understanding the basics here? Even though you are “medium populated” which for you seems to be the gold almighty definition of how many that are in WvW, Piken still have the strongest pre primetime of the three servers due to your eastern europe population. This is the zergy part of Piken. You all just blob up and take whatever in your wake with omegas and stuff. A valid tactic since you play on your strengths.

When this is done its more common to see Piken guilds roaming with smaller numbers during our prime time.

So please just kittening try to understand that we dont mean that ONE guild is so huge they are a zerg. But your pre primetime group its just one big zerg transferring maps when needed. And it is so stronk!

But ofc since we are a very high populated server of only wvw´ers we just call in 200 on the map to stop it… Oh wait!

Anyway. Never gotten so many badges as I do these 3 weeks so far, and with the patch soon to come I am happy. Had to buy myself some armor for the skins cause I ran out of space for my badges. Btw. Counting deaths each match up. Two so far this week. Come at me bro!

Rookni.2469:

Khrums.3765:

How come high and very high population servers complain about numbers form medium one?

Really? Still not understanding the basics here? Even though you are “medium populated” which for you seems to be the gold almighty definition of how many that are in WvW …

… as i said high population servers have potential to train new players and get better coverage as medium server have, day, prime time, night doesn’t matter you can make it work if only have people who care to do it. But easier is complain over and over, so when i reading this topic i can see … oh PS have to strong day raid, too strong prime time, AR capping only night … really poor Gandara

So far we have great fights against you, good guilds, better pug as AR, and lots good actions just this QQ wake up troll in me. So please stop whining grow some balls and do job. Gandara manage to get 1st last match-up so keep do it. We gonna have at least 3+ more weeks together so keep good fights up.

… also if you guys don’t want drop to t4 maybe put more pressure on AR? as they holding your points atm.

We managed to get 1st last time yes. And what happened? I will let you figure that out

Rookni.2469:

Piken still have the strongest pre primetime of the three servers due to your eastern europe population.

And Piken also has a totally non-existant nightcapping population… so whats your point?

Yes we are lucky to have attracted a large Russian and eastern European population and we welcome our Vodka drinking comrades because they are probably the only reason we can stay competitive on this Tier.

Rookni.2469:

This is the zergy part of Piken. You all just blob up and take whatever in your wake with omegas and stuff.

Ru seriously trying to accuse Piken of blobbing?

Everyone knows the only blob-addicted realm in this matchup are AR who have created monster zergs the size of which unseen before in GW2. Im pretty sure ive witnessed their entire population following a commander :/ … oh and jokes aside i was online when they famously used 15 Golems to take most of Pikens map in EB, yes it did happen.

Rookni.2469:

When this is done its more common to see Piken guilds roaming with smaller numbers during our prime time.

And this is the time we would wish in an ideal world to have 24/7. This way we would truly find out who has the best WvW teams… the current system gives a huge advantage to the higher population realms and im proud to be the only realm in the lowest population group who are punching so high above their weight

Rookni.2469:

Btw. Counting deaths each match up. Two so far this week. Come at me bro!

So on the one hand u complain that our daytime Eastern Europeans r trashing everything in their wake and nothing can stop them and yet u only died twice…. Either ur fantastic at hiding and running away or u dont even play at this time…

So how exactly is this an issue to u if Piken cant even kill u?

So much QQ… try some more Pew Pew?

EPIC two hour siege of bay there Nugos = SFRJ + Other various Russians. Itt seems my pug Zergs and you are meant to meet ;P? Anyway hell of a challenging fighting you guys off and its been a blast for us

I am up to 9 deaths now thanks to a certain someone Good fun today. Defense at Bay in GBL was intense and good fun. For me there was little to no skill lag and no fps drop during fights. And some of them was quite epic. Finally had the chance of being in a group with same numbers as Nug/SPRT+friends and was fun fighting you. You had some quick execution of tactics. Gandara Randoms was led by Lloantix who did such a good job:)

Thanks HoB, GNOU and others for some of the fun fights at EB later in the night.

Now bring the patch so we can get rid of this culling

So much fun on PSBL tonight. Thanks all present <3

Rookni.2469:

Thanks HoB, GNOU and others for some of the fun fights at EB later in the night.

Thanks to you !

Indeed, pretty good fights on EB tonight for our 7-9 Gnous.

And as you say, we hope this cullingless patch won’t be a fake …

Brenz

CommandRoux – Gnou -

I would love to know how the outmanned buff is calculated, because we just lost Greenbriar in Gan BL to 50+ AR and there were maybe 8-12 of us defending.

Number of deer on map multiplied by Quaggans
If enemy number is 53.4% lower than this number then outmanned is activated IF more than 9 dolyaks is alive on the map.
If enemy number is above 53.4% then outmanned is taken away IF the damage on walls in total on the map is exactly 430%, 506% or 801%

Or its just the server that have the least amount of people on the map. Even if AR hard 50 there, then you maybe had 100 in total all over the map, not giving you outmanned

Rookni.2469:

I am up to 9 deaths now thanks to a certain someone

I do try ;P

Rookni.2469:

Thanks HoB, GNOU and others for some of the fun fights at EB later in the night.

This indeed! it was Dius’ first voyage into EB and it was a blast

Rookni.2469:

Finally had the chance of being in a group with same numbers as Nug/SPRT+friends

LOL