Guild Wars 2

Reverence.6915:

Hule.8794:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

The old meta was terrible and boring. Move along.

You mean GWEN that turned into EN? As thats what you lately, eles and necros. Lot of necros.

More like REN. Rangers with their ridiculous range just plinking away at you so you have to move even further out of range of your enemy zerg or risk getting spiked down with 5+ rangers hitting their 2 button

So true! I used to alternate between my warr and necro, but now I find I get the most bags picking off people from max range with my LB power ranger.

Rocketmist.5436:

You can’t get slept/rooted for 10+ seconds from single skills, most dazes/stuns in the game are 1-2s as they should be.

Immobilize stacking says otherwise.

Vavume.8065:

Caedmon.6798:

60 ppl vs 60ppl

Here is your problem, stop being a zergling all your life and learn to do something skilful instead.

Nowhere did i mention that all i do is zerg.Im a roamer by heart,it’s what i enjoy doing most.The servers we face do not roam,so theres not much to roam about eventhough i Still do it.Why do i need to defend myself for things i never said,stop making up stuff simply because this thread is about zerging does not mean it’s all i do.It;s what i do when there is no roaming going on.

Chaba.5410:

Rocketmist.5436:

You can’t get slept/rooted for 10+ seconds from single skills, most dazes/stuns in the game are 1-2s as they should be.

Immobilize stacking says otherwise.

Not really. Stacking means several skills piling on top of each others, not just one. Beside, immob and stab are not related at all.

Caedmon.6798:

Vavume.8065:

Caedmon.6798:

60 ppl vs 60ppl

Here is your problem, stop being a zergling all your life and learn to do something skilful instead.

Nowhere did i mention that all i do is zerg.Im a roamer by heart,it’s what i enjoy doing most.The servers we face do not roam,so theres not much to roam about eventhough i Still do it.Why do i need to defend myself for things i never said,stop making up stuff simply because this thread is about zerging does not mean it’s all i do.It;s what i do when there is no roaming going on.

What servers do you come up against that you are claiming doesn’t have roamers?

Pirate ship meta is fun and all, but most successful zergs still have a strong melee train. One of the weaknesses to the pirate ship is facing multiple drivers. Pirate ships are best when they can focus aoe & cc in one spot, such as a choke point or the spot where melee train pushes through. When you have more than 1 driver, and you see melee trains coming at you from different directions, that’s when the ship tends to sink.

A strong melee train with a competent driver, and good ranged support, are still the best way to fight in WvW. Pirate ship is fun and works when you lack meat, they’re also fun when you’re running a chill raid where people just kinda yolo around. But let’s not kid ourselves, pirate ship meta isn’t always the best way or the only way to run your zerg/groups out there. It’s merely one out of many options, and certainly not the best option now that most people have gotten used to the new stab changes.

coglin.1867:

Caedmon.6798:

Vavume.8065:

Caedmon.6798:

60 ppl vs 60ppl

Here is your problem, stop being a zergling all your life and learn to do something skilful instead.

Nowhere did i mention that all i do is zerg.Im a roamer by heart,it’s what i enjoy doing most.The servers we face do not roam,so theres not much to roam about eventhough i Still do it.Why do i need to defend myself for things i never said,stop making up stuff simply because this thread is about zerging does not mean it’s all i do.It;s what i do when there is no roaming going on.

What servers do you come up against that you are claiming doesn’t have roamers?

T1 servers in EU.

Yeah I agree the Stab changes have made more guilds move to a Pirate ship Meta, but rather than complain about it, some guilds are adapting strategies to combat the pirate ship with melee still. Get creative, try new strategies. It is possible.

Did you ever think that just because they adapt to it doesn’t mean they find it more fun? Or what about people like me who had their build buffed to untouchable god tier and had to ‘adapt’ by finding a way to stay awake while playing?

A lot of you who played hammer warrior and enjoyed laught as you at unlocked people now get to experience the pain and frustration that ranged classes have suffered for far too long.
Pirate ship actually promotes more diversity. EVERY class can be viable instead of four, like it was earlier. I have run the “pirate ship” meta for years now, long before stability changes. Having to kite without ANY cc actually makes it MUCH easier now. Just because the builds you “love” to play aren’t brokenly overpowered in groups anymore doesn’t mean that everyone is dissatisfied. INFACT, many people prefer the sta I lift changes. U may say no to that, but that is most likely because u surround yourself with the other hammer warriors who were ht the hardest.
I’ll give u a way to play warrior: run rifle & GS. I do on my warrior, and it works great, even though people think rifle is “bad”. Guardians can just run wall of reflect and end people…

oscuro.9720:

A lot of you who played hammer warrior and enjoyed laught as you at unlocked people now get to experience the pain and frustration that ranged classes have suffered for far too long.
Pirate ship actually promotes more diversity. EVERY class can be viable instead of four, like it was earlier. I have run the “pirate ship” meta for years now, long before stability changes. Having to kite without ANY cc actually makes it MUCH easier now. Just because the builds you “love” to play aren’t brokenly overpowered in groups anymore doesn’t mean that everyone is dissatisfied. INFACT, many people prefer the sta I lift changes. U may say no to that, but that is most likely because u surround yourself with the other hammer warriors who were ht the hardest.
I’ll give u a way to play warrior: run rifle & GS. I do on my warrior, and it works great, even though people think rifle is “bad”. Guardians can just run wall of reflect and end people…

I don’t really understand your first sentence at all..As for your other points, this meta doesn;t provide for more diversity when 2 sides are full range standing around kiting and the few melee around can only act as cleanup crew when bodys go down.
“Having to kite without ANY cc actually makes it MUCH easier now”…And easier is good… ? It’s a borefest..you obviously prefer range over melee,i can see that..but your making some pretty invalid points.Besides i really don’t need you tell me what to run,as i know how to adapt to this meta..It’s not the issue if you have properly read and understood my posts,which whas that the current meta is a borefest with a lack of diversity and melee being pointless,where lots of builds have become useless,and where warriors have to run bow..like we are being pushed in pvp aswell..besides some other points you dont really care about.

Well my guild is sinking gold pirate ships every day at raid. It is also much more dynamic now when u play normal style( mt rush etc.) against some pirates who run run run away and keep avoiding you. All u need now i hunting for papers with mt too( not like before with fp only) and everything will be fine

I’m in my small guild’s melee train and we still push and wipe larger groups, we just have to be more meticulous about it, the risk if a big part of the fun for us so that’s kind of a plus. Pirate shipping aside (yes it’s kittening boring and even worse, its unavoidable!), the actual clashes are over sooner than I’d like since bad pushes are unforgiving now and it’s made some people wary of fights or just downright evasive, these are two of the major downsides for me. Some upsides are that the theory crafting, testing and need for better communication and positioning has been a major plus for our guild cohesion.

As much as I adore GW2’s combat I feel like WvWvW is the gutter that catches the run off from the esports balancing and at times it looks really dead end.

Yoho, yoho a pirate’s life for me?