Guild Wars 2

This experiment only made this map a joke of a game mode. All it is is a champ farm. Enough said. Please remove it

Oh my I find myself in the uncomfortable position of having to defend Eotm

Much of PvE is a champ farm, dungeons, silverwastes, drytop etc should we remove that from the game as well. If you do not like eotm, simply dont go there.
I dont like PvP because I find it to small and repititive so I dont do pvp but I would never suggest it be deleted, I just dont do it.

Eotm was originally designed to be a map where players who were waiting on wvw queues go could and play around in while waiting out the queues. Well over time the wvw population continously declined so queues became less of an issue. Queues still occur just not like it was back then. If they removed all the rewards from EoTM it would essentially become a ghost town, because there would be little incentive to go there.

I do think there should be some changes to the rewards, because it is for the most part a brainless karma/champ/exp farm. And personally I think that people being able to farm WxP there from killing champs and capturing undefended towers/keeps is appalling. WxP in eotm should only be awarded from killing enemy players.

Basically, dont like it dont do it, complain or suggest ideas to fix stuff. But recommending something like this be removed is just silly.

Completely agreed with X T D. Just because I’m sick of fighting against Shadow Arts Thieves, doesn’t mean ANet should remove thieves (Though I’m not protesting if they do!)

Edit, and just because I have been literally dying to use this for days now…

http://i.imgur.com/HHl9csA.gif

joneirikb.7506:

Completely agreed with X T D. Just because I’m sick of fighting against Shadow Arts Thieves, doesn’t mean ANet should remove thieves (Though I’m not protesting if they do!)

Edit, and just because I have been literally dying to use this for days now…

http://i.imgur.com/HHl9csA.gif

SA? It’s all about the trickery tree now bro.

X T D.6458:

Oh my I find myself in the uncomfortable position of having to defend Eotm

Much of PvE is a champ farm, dungeons, silverwastes, drytop etc should we remove that from the game as well. If you do not like eotm, simply dont go there.
I dont like PvP because I find it to small and repititive so I dont do pvp but I would never suggest it be deleted, I just dont do it.

Eotm was originally designed to be a map where players who were waiting on wvw queues go could and play around in while waiting out the queues. Well over time the wvw population continously declined so queues became less of an issue. Queues still occur just not like it was back then. If they removed all the rewards from EoTM it would essentially become a ghost town, because there would be little incentive to go there.

I do think there should be some changes to the rewards, because it is for the most part a brainless karma/champ/exp farm. And personally I think that people being able to farm WxP there from killing champs and capturing undefended towers/keeps is appalling. WxP in eotm should only be awarded from killing enemy players.

Basically, dont like it dont do it, complain or suggest ideas to fix stuff. But recommending something like this be removed is just silly.

I agree… except, could it be that they have a fixed amount of server resources (or money for server rentals) allocated to WvW, and that EotM is considered WvW for that purpose. This would mean less resources for real WvW.

Technically it still is a pvp map in the style of wvw. The problem is how it is treated by the players. It can easily be used as another wvw map but there is no purpose since the matches are only 3 hours and there is no point in winning, and since there is only one map with overflows it is more like a pve map in design. The current reward structure attracts people because its easy, anytime there is a farm there will be people attracted to it.

If you don’t like it, don’t play it.
Not that hard.

EOTM is the “ultimate” way of leveling alts u dont need map completion on

One Prarie Outpost.4860:

If you don’t like it, don’t play it.
Not that hard.

Was about to say this too, you Sir beated me to it.

OP no ones forcing you to play it. I dont like pve, shall i advocate to remove it?

I’d rather they give eotm its own forum so the eotm crowd would stop posting in here.

Oh, another “I don’t like it so it should be removed” wah wah post (“It” being whatever) Get over yourself and realize this game does not revolve you.

Mystle.4538:

This experiment only made this map a joke of a game mode. All it is is a champ farm. Enough said. Please remove it

Did I fear you off a cliff? I fear’d ya right? Maybe it was my P/D thief??? Come on, there had to be some death to cause this much rage?

EotM is good. All it needs is some attitude adjustments of certain players.

+1 to OP.

Delete it as it is.
Rework it slightly.
Insert it into WvW Proper.
Profit.

I hope the twist EoTM to be the game’s mass PvpvE map.

I hope they insert a giant rewarding World Boss in the center of the map where the Aerherblades are.

Can you imagine trying to down the karma queen while tying to avoid being ganked at the same time…. That would be so fun,

EoTM isn’t WvW it shouldn’t try to be either.

Johje Holan.4607:

+1 to OP.

Delete it as it is.
Rework it slightly.
Insert it into WvW Proper.
Profit.

No better delete WvW mode, put EB and BL under EotM match making, change it a bit such that you can have fixed teams and competition between them. (e.g. as in https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Proposal-for-a-new-competive-WvW)

EotM mode has clear advantages over WvW:

• 4hours matches allow you to play a match from start to end.
• the amount of parallel matches is determined by player demand and not inflexible as in WVW.
• Therefore in EotM you always find enemies, whereas most maps in WvW in most matches (outside T1) are empty (no friend, no enemies, just a map-hopping PvD zerg with a handful people) most of the time (20 of 24 hours during the week).

I like it how it is now. It is a rather good place to practice without hurting your own server by doing so.

It is also rather funny to have a group of 7-10 people running around and destroying enemy karma-train zergs ^^

Why would you delete a map lots of people enjoy. Clearly more people enjoy eotm than regular wvw.

Malediktus.3740:

Why would you delete a map lots of people enjoy. Clearly more people enjoy eotm than regular wvw.

Source please.

I find it much more usual that I am outnumbered in EotM than I am in regular WvW.

Whenever I am trying to find a map with no commander there are minimum 4 IPs going on all the time. And all maps look crowded. Rarely less than 50 people in a zerg. Definitely a lot more going on than in regular wvw.

EoTM promotes ezmode 0skill play. If you guys like that, I won’t judge

I am pretty sure it takes more skill to sit inside the tower all day and run away from a zerg bigger than yours?

What zerg? I didn’t realize I solo roam with a zerg, or play rank pvp with a zerg, if you think dodging skill animation from bosses is skillful play then all I have to say is facepalm

Don’t hold your breath, op.

And who’s too say it hasn’t been a resounding success in the eyes of the dev team? I don’t believe it has been but maybe eotm has done exactly what they wanted it to do.

Mystle.4538:

This experiment only made this map a joke of a game mode. All it is is a champ farm. Enough said. Please remove it

Others might respond better to your… Request? Argument? ..if you elaborated a bit. You don’t like it because it is a champ farm. So, you hate champ farms? Or do you hate that the map is considered wvw and gives better rewards than regular wvw? Maybe you think getting rid of eotm will improve your server’s wvw population. Your statement as-is will not bring in many constructive responses.