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Posted by: kaikalii.4198

kaikalii.4198

I am a roamer. When I get into a fight with someone, and one of us wins, I like to tell them something along the lines of, “Good fight!” or “You got me!” Currently, there are two way to do this:
1. Join their party. This is the simplest way. However, some people will not let you join, presumably because they are expecting trash talk.
2. Block the person, find their name in your blocked list, and whisper from there. This is a very roundabout method, but it always works. it is currently possible to whisper any enemy; it is just tedious to do so. Please aNet, just let me right click their icon and click “whisper”.

If you think this would increase trash talking and the like, I agree that yes, it will make such behavior slightly easier, but it will also be easier to have a polite conversation. Fighting people in WvW is actually where I get a fair amount of advice on how to improve, and it would be nice if it weren’t such a hassle just to talk to someone.

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Posted by: McWolfy.5924

McWolfy.5924

I dont want more ,“you %&$#ing nub 222222 ranger!” whispers from d/p thieves! If i go roam they always whisper me, but just that kind of thieves, nobody else

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Posted by: darkwarder.3645

darkwarder.3645

Obviously you could use teamspeak or mumble or something, but allowing direct whispers could also help people spy with alternate accounts.

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Posted by: kaikalii.4198

kaikalii.4198

I dont want more ,“you %&$#ing nub 222222 ranger!” whispers from d/p thieves! If i go roam they always whisper me, but just that kind of thieves, nobody else

Obviously you could use teamspeak or mumble or something, but allowing direct whispers could also help people spy with alternate accounts.

I understand you concerns, but these things are already possible. You can whisper anyone by blocking them and then whispering from you contacts list. All I want is a way to make it easier talk to someone, whether that conversation be positive or negative. I like to give people props when they kill me or say gf when i kill them.

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Posted by: Esprit Dumort.3109

Esprit Dumort.3109

It would be used more for harm than good. It was made more difficult by Anet once already, so they have shown their opinion already.

Last time I got whispered was to get flamed for Auto-Attacking a downed player to death. Rarely ever good.

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Posted by: X T D.6458

X T D.6458

yea unfortunately many dont share your sportsmanlike attitude and would just use it to troll people, would do more harm then good

I say what needs to be said, get used to it.
Honesty is not insulting, stupidity is.
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Posted by: tom.7468

tom.7468

Or how about mapchat and say= everyone there is still team chat… The game is rated 13+ we can handle some trolls. I mean really why does everything have to be so closed down and there is no server pride every server is the same just some have more players.
The most offensive one i got was I hope you die rl and it was not even on my theif.
I hope that norn ranger got hit by the banhammer.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

yea unfortunately many dont share your sportsmanlike attitude and would just use it to troll people, would do more harm then good

Basically this. The number of skritt-heads who would abuse it far outnumber the good sportsmen.

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Posted by: oscuro.9720

oscuro.9720

You guys are forgetting, if someone is trolling you, you can block them….

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

Atherakhia.4086

I’m indifferent on the subject, but I do feel if ANet is going to allow a loop hole to exist that allows enemies to determine the username of the opposing side, there’s no reason to make players jump through hoops to do it.

Either remove the loophole or go back to the old way.

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Posted by: Davey.7029

Davey.7029

You’re one in a hundred of players who would actually whisper others without the intention of trolling them, but to help them. Do you see the problem now? That is why whispers are turned off.
If you really want to help someone and give them advice, you know what to do anyway.

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Posted by: Silalus.8760

Silalus.8760

Just a thought, but an alternative would be to allow certain emotes while in a defeated state and then slightly expand emotes to include some basic, purely good-sportsmanship cross-faction communication.

You already have /bow, /salute, /yes, and /no. The only things really missing are /challenge (as in, challenge to a duel), /congratulate (probably just as /gratz), and a nice solid /handshake. (For bonus points, /fistbump too.)

Now I admit that doesn’t let you get or give advice like you describe, but that’s where the friends list actually makes sense. And if you could use the canned, limited, hopefully anti-spam filtered emotes to show good sportsmanship then I would imagine that other player would be much more likely to accept a friend request and talk then or later.

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Posted by: SilverWF.4789

SilverWF.4789

You already have /bow, /salute, /yes, and /no. The only things really missing are /challenge (as in, challenge to a duel), /congratulate (probably just as /gratz), and a nice solid /handshake. (For bonus points, /fistbump too.)

And you can do that while downed/dead, right?

Also, if someone so afraid of insults from enemies - you still will be able to block them!
Trust me, if someone willing to insult you - he would be able to do so now. Yes, NOW. Without you are expecting this. And you will block him AFTER he is insulted you.

Current system make a troubles to a good players only, nothing else. Try to understand this.

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Posted by: Wanderer.3248

Wanderer.3248

None of the enemy who have whispered me have ever been polite.

Ever.

OP is probably the only WvW player in all of GW2 who bothers to whisper the enemy to say nice things.

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

Mishi.7058

If I win I find a bow is nice to do, if I lose a fight normally the enemy bows if we had a good fight. Otherwise all I get is random angry kids messaging me trash talking.

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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

sephiroth.4217

Pretty much what everyone else said…

It will lead to more nerd rage when people lose on “faceroll” builds.

I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.

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Posted by: msalakka.4653

msalakka.4653

The game is rated 13+

You can definitely tell.

there is no server pride

I feel sorry for you.

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Posted by: MrTJpwnz.4710

MrTJpwnz.4710

emotes work, you could always use the /emote ‘type stuff here’ thing… They only won’t see your name but ‘server name’ ‘wvw rank’ ‘your emote’

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Posted by: msalakka.4653

msalakka.4653

emotes work, you could always use the /emote ‘type stuff here’ thing… They only won’t see your name but ‘server name’ ‘wvw rank’ ‘your emote’

They can’t see custom emotes.

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Posted by: Novuake.2691

Novuake.2691

I like the idea, and acknowledge the issues associated with it and that it would not be healthy for the game.

I oddly enough had a warrior just sit and watch me kill his buddy (thief), afterwards he just kept sitting there. Taking autos from me, felt like a scumbag and stopped attacking him.

He then moved on to take a Ruin, where I got the resolve to kill him as he was not just being passive by taking ruins.

Moral, would have liked to know WTF, between him (clearly bunker) and a thief they may have been able to take me.

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

aspirine.6852

I would suspect it would be used for 99% trolling and perhaps 1% normal conversation. And I am thinking the 1% would be high.

I would also be very much tempted to whisper gankers and I would not say something like nice job

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Posted by: Bristingr.5034

Bristingr.5034

I am not sure how to “block” an enemy player in WvW so I can whisper to them. Right clicking on them does nothing for me.

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Posted by: Novuake.2691

Novuake.2691

It should give you a block and report option if you rightclick on their portrait after selecting them.

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Posted by: TheGrimm.5624

TheGrimm.5624

No, this is already abused as is and is used in bad form. There should be no whispers allowed across servers while in WvW. I think if it would be made easier the percentages would remain the same of good sportmenship to the bad.

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Posted by: Sirendor.1394

Sirendor.1394

I dont want more ,“you %&$#ing nub 222222 ranger!” whispers from d/p thieves! If i go roam they always whisper me, but just that kind of thieves, nobody else

Hahaha. Well there must be reason they whisper that to you… Are you by any chance a 2222222 PEWPEWPEWPEWPEW ranger? If so… I totally understand the thieves, because that build is broken.

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Posted by: briggah.7910

briggah.7910

I can’t stand pvp because of the trash talk between players.

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Posted by: TheLastNobody.8319

TheLastNobody.8319

No, it’s one of the reasons I prefer WvW to PvP.

A knight in shining armor is a man who never had his metal truly tested.

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Posted by: Silalus.8760

Silalus.8760

You already have /bow, /salute, /yes, and /no. The only things really missing are /challenge (as in, challenge to a duel), /congratulate (probably just as /gratz), and a nice solid /handshake. (For bonus points, /fistbump too.)

And you can do that while downed/dead, right?

You missed that I also said:

Just a thought, but an alternative would be to allow certain emotes while in a defeated state

That obviously would be necessary to be useful. Wouldn’t even need to be for all emotes, just certain ones relevant to sportsmanship.

And again, my point isn’t that this should replace the friends list method. This is to supplement it- butter them up before you try to talk shop cross-faction legitimately as frenemies.

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Posted by: Kolisch.4691

Kolisch.4691

The first time I’ve ever had any contact with an enemy was when some guy out of nowhere asked if I’d love to get it on with a pig (he wrote condescendingly as if I don’t speak English). I asked if we should have it settled outside, he gave an address to a house down under…

I won’t want to talk to an enemy unless it happens to be after a good fight or if I want to comment on the quality of the teabagging.

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Posted by: X T D.6458

X T D.6458

The first time I’ve ever had any contact with an enemy was when some guy out of nowhere asked if I’d love to get it on with a pig (he wrote condescendingly as if I don’t speak English). I asked if we should have it settled outside, he gave an address to a house down under…

I won’t want to talk to an enemy unless it happens to be after a good fight or if I want to comment on the quality of the teabagging.

Rofl

I say what needs to be said, get used to it.
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Posted by: Hamster.4861

Hamster.4861

If you have a commander tag, you can stack on top of your enemy while they’re alive and /supplyinfo to get their name as well

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Posted by: Artaz.3819

Artaz.3819

Just buy the gemstore item that allows you to golf clap and bow when defeated.

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Posted by: Kanebrake.6192

Kanebrake.6192

I’m sorry but this might be one of the worst ideas I’ve personally read on these forums.

BG

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Posted by: Sinbold.8723

Sinbold.8723

I was quite surprised last night in WvW when after a fight at SE tower in our home BL where we first lost to 2 mesmers and an ele, then went and took the tower with them defending, one of the mesmers pm’d me and said, “Tell your party thank you for such a good fight!” We had a nice conversation for a while, thanking each other for a good fight and for being good sports. First tme I’d ever had a pm conversation in WvW that wasn’t trolling.

If you’re that ET sylvari mez, thank you for being such a good sport!

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Posted by: GreyWraith.8394

GreyWraith.8394

I vote ‘no’. They should fix the ‘workaround’/bug that allows us to do it now. It will obviously do more harm than good.

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Posted by: SilverWF.4789

SilverWF.4789

"Bad players" have a way to harass another even now. So stop this trash about "Omg, I’m afraid that someone will say me I’m bad"

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Posted by: Dean Calaway.9718

Dean Calaway.9718

I dont want more ,“you %&$#ing nub 222222 ranger!” whispers from d/p thieves! If i go roam they always whisper me, but just that kind of thieves, nobody else

Hahaha. Well there must be reason they whisper that to you… Are you by any chance a 2222222 PEWPEWPEWPEWPEW ranger? If so… I totally understand the thieves, because that build is broken.

Thiefs have always enjoyed broken builds, still today if they want (and are good enough) they just poof and the fight is pretty much over. Personally I never bother chasing after thiefs because they’ll just drag it on hoping some mates show up to jump on me.

On topic, the blocking has always been broken in GW2.
Just the fact that you can see which map that person is just encourages stalking and theres been plenty of topics about how this should be improved.
And yes, you can check the user name of the enemy and whisper that way, but I don’t think you were spouse to, and right now the only thing stopping people from abusing it is either they don’t know (I’m surprised a mod has allowed this topic since to my eye I’d consider this to be a bit of an exploit) or they just can’t be bothered with the work it takes, making it easier is just a bad idea.

I’m talking for personal experience because when I get in a 1v1 for example and that guy runs away only to find his people to then turn around and come at me when I’m outnumbered then mock when he “wins”, yes, he’s gonna get a piece of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman over here.
If this was just made easier there would be no end to toxic whispers, so I’m with other people here that say cross server whisper when you’re in WvW at least should be blocked.
Pretty simple thing to do, if you are in WvW you can’t whisper people from the servers you are up against, you got friends in there? Go to PvX so you can whisper, while you are in a WvW you wouldn’t be allowed.

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Posted by: Runewolf.8456

Runewolf.8456

I dont want more ,“you %&$#ing nub 222222 ranger!” whispers from d/p thieves! If i go roam they always whisper me, but just that kind of thieves, nobody else

This.

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Posted by: Terrahero.9358

Terrahero.9358

The effort it currently takes for people to trashtalk is probably the single biggest deterrent to keep people from doing so.

If it happens just mail them a pile of salt.

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Posted by: Jim Hunter.6821

Jim Hunter.6821

I dont want more ,“you %&$#ing nub 222222 ranger!” whispers from d/p thieves! If i go roam they always whisper me, but just that kind of thieves, nobody else

Hahaha. Well there must be reason they whisper that to you… Are you by any chance a 2222222 PEWPEWPEWPEWPEW ranger? If so… I totally understand the thieves, because that build is broken.

Mad cuz bad

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Posted by: Jim Hunter.6821

Jim Hunter.6821

Just give the option to block all whispers from the enemy server for the people too scared of talking to people.

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

aspirine.6852

I dont want more ,“you %&$#ing nub 222222 ranger!” whispers from d/p thieves! If i go roam they always whisper me, but just that kind of thieves, nobody else

Hahaha. Well there must be reason they whisper that to you… Are you by any chance a 2222222 PEWPEWPEWPEWPEW ranger? If so… I totally understand the thieves, because that build is broken.

Mad cuz bad

No I dont think he is bad at all. If I remember those little asurans from Vabbi correctly.

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Posted by: briggah.7910

briggah.7910

Just give the option to block all whispers from the enemy server for the people too scared of talking to people.

Just go to pvp if you want to trash talk with friends.. Otherwise leave it the way it is. Has nothing to do with being scared to talk.. 99% of whispers are hate whispers. My block list is 99% gold sellers.. Its annoying enough to block them when they spam me, Having enemies spam me will just make my block list grow even more and waste my play time blocking people.

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Posted by: Farzo.8410

Farzo.8410

I’ve been verbally abused by 5 man roamers because I decided to start shooting at them with a cannon.

They told me to jump down and 1vs5 them and everything.

I then whispered back something catchy when our server zerg came and ran them over.

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Posted by: CajunSinjin.3410

CajunSinjin.3410

This is war people, there is no “talking to each other” It is kill your enemy any way you can. Kick them in the groin, gouge their eyes…..do whatever it takes to win. If I wanted polite war I would play a MMO game…………………oh wait

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Posted by: SilverWF.4789

SilverWF.4789

“Bad players” have a way to harass another even now. So stop this trash about “Omg, I’m afraid that someone will say me I’m bad”

Repeat again. Try to argue with that.

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Posted by: briggah.7910

briggah.7910

“Bad players” have a way to harass another even now. So stop this trash about “Omg, I’m afraid that someone will say me I’m bad”

Repeat again. Try to argue with that.

Why you looking for an argument?

Sounds like the typical trash talker if you ask me..

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Posted by: Rednik.3809

Rednik.3809

2% of whispers will be: “That was a good fight! Let’s duel again?”
98% of whispers will be: “Lmao faget u so bad, #rekt plz QQ moar”

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Posted by: Davey.7029

Davey.7029

2% of whispers will be: “That was a good fight! Let’s duel again?”
98% of whispers will be: “Lmao faget u so bad, #rekt plz QQ moar”

^ This right here.

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Posted by: X T D.6458

X T D.6458

2% of whispers will be: “That was a good fight! Let’s duel again?”
98% of whispers will be: “Lmao faget u so bad, #rekt plz QQ moar”

players you kill messaging you saying how bad you are, I love hate messages because they make me feel good and give me a good laugh. Occasionally I share them with the map.

I say what needs to be said, get used to it.
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