I know there are lot of upset people about the recent changes to the Participation timer for each event or activity involving keeping your participation timer going.
However I think ANet should really put up a vote to ask everyone that actually plays out in WvW if they should revert the changes or keep them as they are.
These changes to WvW just got me to realized how pitiful and unrewarding WvW is and was… My biggest mistake was to be doing WvW since release and ANet just reinforced that view. At first, the Legendary back piece and WvW armor brought me back into WvW after boycotting and avoiding it for months. But the changes today made me realize how much more fun Lion’s Arch chit chat, fractals, etc is the better part of the game. Did anyone even thought this out before implementation? From the looks of it, it was like a quick fix hoping that everyone will like it. Ack.. Failed. What else is new about the team working on WvW???
I think some people are confused and think that whenever you do something that gives participation it adds to the decay, which has not been and is not the case. For example when you take an objective, it gives you 10 minutes before your participation will start to decay; then if you kill a guard it will only reset to 2 minutes if you have less than 2 minutes left otherwise it won’t affect the timer. This is how it has always worked; the only thing we have changed is the reset time for each action.
The reset times are as follows:
• Killing a Player – 10 minutes
• Killing a Caravan – 2 minutes
• Destroying a fortification – 5 minutes
• Killing a Guard – 2 minutes
• Killing a Lord – 5 minutes
• Killing or reviving a merc npc – 1 minute
• Repairing – 5 minutes
• Siege Damage Wall/Gate/Player – 1 minute
• Destroying Siege – 5 minute
• Killing a Veteran Creature – 5 minutes
These happen on event completion:
• Defending a Caravan – 2 minutes
• Completing a Merc Event – 5 minutes
• Completing a Defend Event – 10 minutes
• Capturing an objective – 10 minutes
• Capturing a Ruin or Shrine – 2 minutes
• Capturing a Sentry – 5 minutes
It is still possible that we will tweak these numbers going forward.
I mean, even if you don’t care much about the rewards themselves, you feel hounded by that timer, constantly threatening you if you don’t rush,rush,rush to the next camp, next dolyak, next keep, next zergfight.
It does a very good job in reducing the already inexistent queue times on non-top-realms, though. >.>
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• Killing a Caravan – 3 minutes
• Destroying a fortification – 7 minutes
• Killing a Guard – 3 minutes
• Killing a Lord – 7 minutes
• Killing or reviving a merc npc – 2 minute
• Repairing – 5 minutes
• Siege Damage Wall/Gate/Player – 2 minute
• Killing a Veteran Creature – 3 minutes
These happen on event completion:
• Defending a Caravan – 3 minutes
And while you’re at it increase the pip overall acquisition for people who have a low WvW level/can’t play that much. The experience should be rewarding for everyone and should incentivise people to play the mode.
I mean, even if you don’t care much about the rewards themselves, you feel hounded by that timer, constantly threatening you if you don’t rush,rush,rush to the next camp, next dolyak, next keep, next zergfight.
It does a very good job in reducing the already inexistent queue times on non-top-realms, though. >.>
My BL was literally empty and I went trying to cap a tower next to camp, destroyed the wall myself, got the lord to 25% before a pew pew ranger attacked me.
I did all of that, almost capped tower, and when I died, yeah guess what I had decay.
I have literally no idea why people are defending these decisions. Playing for the fun they said…
Did you read the post right above yours?
And yeah they are fine. I bet they noticed that people played less PvE, which in turn lowered gemstore sales because PvEers spend more, so they are driving people out of WvW quickly. And hey, it works!
The strength of heart to face oneself has been made manifest. The persona Carighan has appeared.
I mean, even if you don’t care much about the rewards themselves, you feel hounded by that timer, constantly threatening you if you don’t rush,rush,rush to the next camp, next dolyak, next keep, next zergfight.
It does a very good job in reducing the already inexistent queue times on non-top-realms, though. >.>
My BL was literally empty and I went trying to cap a tower next to camp, destroyed the wall myself, got the lord to 25% before a pew pew ranger attacked me.
I did all of that, almost capped tower, and when I died, yeah guess what I had decay.
I have literally no idea why people are defending these decisions. Playing for the fun they said…
You get 5 min when you destroy a wall and when you are at t6 participation you have at least 5 more min before you drop under t3.
How long do you need to kill a tower lord?
You get 5 min when you destroy a wall and when you are at t6 participation you have at least 5 more min before you drop under t3.
How long do you need to kill a tower lord?
Could’ve been southwest desert tower, that one’s a pita to kill if you don’t poop out stab everywhere.
I mean, even if you don’t care much about the rewards themselves, you feel hounded by that timer, constantly threatening you if you don’t rush,rush,rush to the next camp, next dolyak, next keep, next zergfight.
It does a very good job in reducing the already inexistent queue times on non-top-realms, though. >.>
This is how I feel about it. Its turning WvW into a chore with a constant timer chasing you
I mean, even if you don’t care much about the rewards themselves, you feel hounded by that timer, constantly threatening you if you don’t rush,rush,rush to the next camp, next dolyak, next keep, next zergfight.
It does a very good job in reducing the already inexistent queue times on non-top-realms, though. >.>
This is how I feel about it. Its turning WvW into a chore with a constant timer chasing you
It heavily taxes the game mode. I thought you finally gave WvW some love and then you pull this crap.
Sorry I cant follow your Zerg, I have to go tag something, don’t care what it is or where it is, I’m losing my participation.
Change the AFK timer so if your not constantly playing you get logged out. Don’t punish 98% of the playerbase to combat 2% that isn’t playing as intended.
You get 5 min when you destroy a wall and when you are at t6 participation you have at least 5 more min before you drop under t3.
How long do you need to kill a tower lord?
Could’ve been southwest desert tower, that one’s a pita to kill if you don’t poop out stab everywhere.
Takes me 3 minutes on a character with 0 stability.
I mean, even if you don’t care much about the rewards themselves, you feel hounded by that timer, constantly threatening you if you don’t rush,rush,rush to the next camp, next dolyak, next keep, next zergfight.
It does a very good job in reducing the already inexistent queue times on non-top-realms, though. >.>
My BL was literally empty and I went trying to cap a tower next to camp, destroyed the wall myself, got the lord to 25% before a pew pew ranger attacked me.
I did all of that, almost capped tower, and when I died, yeah guess what I had decay.
I have literally no idea why people are defending these decisions. Playing for the fun they said…
You get 5 min when you destroy a wall and when you are at t6 participation you have at least 5 more min before you drop under t3.
How long do you need to kill a tower lord?
Here’s a common sense question:
Why should I lose tier in the first place while I’m STILL PARTICIPATING?
Let’s not call it participation then if it means winning. But if you participate, you shouldn’t be losing tiers… at all.
I fail to see why we’re fighting over this. Give some credit for participation for tagging enemies, especially lords and other important targets.
No. Please do away with the community “voting”.
Thank you, that is all.
we don’t need to vote. just do away with the decay and boot afk’ers out of wvw after x minutes of inactivity. running into walls continuously is inactivity.
