Q: Can the game survive with all the hacking?

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Posted by: tumadk.1342

tumadk.1342

Dear ArenaNet,

Let me start by saying I truly love the game – I played GW1 and have been waiting for this game for years.

I have been a very frequent player in WvW and I really love that aspect of the game. But lately I have started to feel what the reason to keep playing anymore is. I have talked with a lot of other players and we had a hard time to come up with good reasons to keep up, beside the love for the great fights we encounter now and then. But the negative side of the equation is much bigger at the moment and that’s why I decided to write this, in the hope someone at ArenaNet would read this and actually act on our concerns. I know I’m not alone with these feelings.

A few of my biggest concerns are (there are more than these)

- In the servers own spawn point you can put up siege. This means people can just stand up there and be immune to damage, and you can’t really destroy the siege. This in short means that Woodhaven (or whatever it’s called in the other borderlands) are taken out of the game as a strategic tower to take over to put pressure on garrison. As it’s nearly impossible to take over and impossible to keep.

- Zoom hack. Basically you use the zoom hack, put up an arrow cart outside a keep, zoom out and then you can hit things inside. Things you normally wouldn’t be able to hit without cheating. And therefore defensive siege is kind of useless.

- There are other hacks being used as far as I have heard of.

What I would like to know is what ArenaNet does to stop this kind of abuse. It’s killing the fun of playing and I know from a lot of other players that if something doesn’t happen soon they are seriously thinking about stopping playing the game.

It’s really easy to spot when the hacks are being used, so if ArenaNet just would appoint a few employees to take a break from their work a few hours and jump from server to server and borderland to borderland, they will for sure see it with their own eyes.

We try and report players every time we see someone cheating, but it’s impossible to see who puts up siege in spawn point.

I could also have mentioned the culling, but the hacking is for my part an even bigger issue.

And yeah I could mention which servers I have seen using the hacks, but that wouldn’t give any positive response to the problem as a whole. And I can’t say with 100% certainty that nobody at my own server isn’t misusing the hacks also, so no point in pointing fingers at certain servers.

All I can hope for is that someone at ArenaNet would read this (and post an answer), and most important act on this!!

And lastly a shout out to all the servers is to stop using these hacks, freeze out the players that use them. It must feel really “nice” to win a fight by cheating.

That’s all for now, don’t kill the messenger

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Posted by: Teamkiller.4315

Teamkiller.4315

I haven’t met any hackers myself (that I could tell of, anyhow.)

Although I think there should be a report feature that allows you to tell them how the person is hacking, or at the very least report them for hacking.

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Posted by: Warlord Lu Bu.7905

Warlord Lu Bu.7905

Yeah ANET would help themselves out a great deal if they allowed us to report hackers more specifically. Sometimes it’s difficult to get a screenshot that really shows what’s going on.

War Legend Lu Bu – Commander
[WäR] Warband of Absolute Retribution
Borlis Pass

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Posted by: Teamkiller.4315

Teamkiller.4315

O hai thar Maguuma commander. I’ve actually been hearing talk about a lot of DB hackers (haven’t seen any, and those reading please do not judge the entire server based on a few bad apples’ decisions) lately from FA’s side.

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Posted by: Warlord Lu Bu.7905

Warlord Lu Bu.7905

I’m curious how often you play WvW? I’ve put in an insane amount of hours and seen dozens of hackers in my time playing this game. Ranging from:

Speed hacking: (10+ teleports in the span of a couple seconds to get from 100 distance to 4000+ distance away from you)

Map hacking: having the ability to fly through the air over 600 distance above the ground. having the ability to constantly move in and out of walls, and under the map to destroy siege, contest waypoints and kill supply dolyaks.

Battle hacking: having the ability to instantly teleport to another location constantly, evading 50+ auto attacks with 50+ teleports in the span of under 10 seconds.

No I do not suffer from any form of computer lag, I run a GeForce GTX 670 card, and have 32 gigs of ram.

Lastly, when I see hackers from any given server… I personally don’t blame the server, but hope that when it gets brought up that they would help report players in question. I of course am willing to do the same in return, and unfortunately, have.

War Legend Lu Bu – Commander
[WäR] Warband of Absolute Retribution
Borlis Pass

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Posted by: Teamkiller.4315

Teamkiller.4315

I’ve played for a few hundred hours. Actually I take back my statement of having seen no hacks. I mean i haven’t seen any enemies hacking (mostly because I don’t pay attention; my class and build is terrible for chasing people down so I don’t even try). I did, however, see one of my commanders teleport from halfway between speldan and anzalias to anz in what seemed like less than a second.

I whispered someone about it and tried to report it but there was no “report hackers” function, this was before I knew that you were supposed to submit tickets.

Yeah I would really appreciate a report hackers function

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Posted by: PaulV.3245

PaulV.3245

Like our RL world, WvW is too big to fix
There will always be “bad” people/players that exploit the system for the fun of breaking the rules.

Anet can fix any issues as they are a talented bunch, however the TIME it takes is the real issue.

The response is slow because of dollar costs and effort required to research, redesign, and implement the fixes.

Currently, they do work arounds to fix the hacks – just banning accounts of reported hackers… removing the Orbs when people hacked to steal them…

After these hacks are fixed, there will be more hacks; rest assured. = Never ends.

The only solution ? – MONEY
Hypothetically speaking, if someone said @ anet: " I will pay one million dollars to the first programmer to fix the speed hack " – the issue would be resolved in a week or less

EVERY issue would be fixed in a week or less

Money is the limiting factor, not know-how. I mean jesus, THEY MADE THE GAME, they can fix anything wrong with it:

Culling = MONEY = faster/more servers
QUEUES = MONEY = faster/more servers
etc etc

Of course, the game would cost $500 but it would be flawless – Guaranteed !

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Posted by: Warlord Lu Bu.7905

Warlord Lu Bu.7905

I wouldn’t mind paying a monthly fee to play WvW if the culling was greatly improved and the hacking was better dealt with.

War Legend Lu Bu – Commander
[WäR] Warband of Absolute Retribution
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Posted by: Thunderbrew.7034

Thunderbrew.7034

Speed hacking is the most common hack I see, and there
is also one that allows you to teleport to anywhere on the
map.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

We had this at our citadel this morning .. likely just a bug … cough.

Even if it wasn’t, not sure what was hoped to be accomplished, lol.

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

Mishi.7058

Q: Can the game survive with all the hacking?

Yes. Look to games like Lineage 2, they lived many years before going F2P, and had a ton of hacking, botting, scripting, ect… even in PvP.

(Not saying its doing well but it lasted for years with people doing things that shouldnt have been done.)

Commander Silvannas
“Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.” Sun Tzu

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Posted by: Terra Dactyl.2047

Terra Dactyl.2047

- Zoom hack. Basically you use the zoom hack, put up an arrow cart outside a keep, zoom out and then you can hit things inside. Things you normally wouldn’t be able to hit without cheating. And therefore defensive siege is kind of useless.

- There are other hacks being used as far as I have heard of.

It’s not really a hack. Hell, it’s probably not even an exploit. Arrow carts don’t require line of sight. It’s just how they’re (poorly) designed.

Arrow carts are terrible the way they are now (people holding off a group of 50+ and destroying any siege they build with 4 arrow carts and nothing else from completely out of the range of retaliation, people camping inside the lord room of hills with relatively few arrow carts and holding people off for hours after they should have essentially already taken the keep, etc.).

It’s not really a “zoom hack”, but I’m all for requiring line of sight on them like almost everything else in the game. Being able to turtle inside a keep with a small handful of essentially indestructible arrow carts destroying all opposing siege is silly.

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Posted by: dank.3680

dank.3680

- Zoom hack. Basically you use the zoom hack, put up an arrow cart outside a keep, zoom out and then you can hit things inside. Things you normally wouldn’t be able to hit without cheating. And therefore defensive siege is kind of useless.

- There are other hacks being used as far as I have heard of.

It’s not really a hack. Hell, it’s probably not even an exploit. Arrow carts don’t require line of sight. It’s just how they’re (poorly) designed.

Arrow carts are terrible the way they are now (people holding off a group of 50+ and destroying any siege they build with 4 arrow carts and nothing else from completely out of the range of retaliation, people camping inside the lord room of hills with relatively few arrow carts and holding people off for hours after they should have essentially already taken the keep, etc.).

It’s not really a “zoom hack”, but I’m all for requiring line of sight on them like almost everything else in the game. Being able to turtle inside a keep with a small handful of essentially indestructible arrow carts destroying all opposing siege is silly.

No his point is that there actually IS a zoom hack which makes arrow carts even more of a pain then they already are.. Do a little google snooping I’m sure you can figure it out.

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