Guild Wars 2

I expected the Tactivators given EBG and they are tied to Guild Scribes. But, what about Shrines the other HOT addition to WvW? And what will they control? If it is rocks popping up blocking your path, the answer should be no. If they create snow storms that blind the enemy (same as the sand storms), then maybe. ANET what are you planning?

Unlikely since shrines are tied to the specific map layout and design, as well as the unique keeps of dbl.

Just think of the mess trying to fix the dailies again. It will be a typical after thought and 3 months to fix.

Depends on how they change the alpine border.
I could see it coming since ruins basically had 0 impact and we are given ppk anyway now.

Or they bring back quaggans…

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

Thank you so much !!! now you just need to remove the Tactivators because clearly nobody wants them.

Oh thank god. #15chars

I only hope that Anet has the foresight (hint, hint) to change the dailies to ruins and not leave them as monuments when the borderlands change. It wasn’t done when HoT was introduced and shouldn’t be overlooked in the future. With the nerf to badges, dailies are one of the few reliable sources of badges in the game now.

I think the ‘monuments’ counts ruins too.

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

So what happens to the daily? Will the map be reinstated with the dailies unchanged as happened with the launch of the desert BL?

And also what about the ruins, what will taking them do? Given that PPK is in full time now.

No changes to alpine? Well that sounds interesting. Now I’m really curious what the new DBL will look like.

Quint.3765:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

Thank you so much !!! now you just need to remove the Tactivators because clearly nobody wants them.

Speak for yourself please.

Tobias Steele.2071:

Quint.3765:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

Thank you so much !!! now you just need to remove the Tactivators because clearly nobody wants them.

Speak for yourself please.

Tobias, did you actually read the “5 things most wanted” thread?? There were alot of people who asked that the new gimmicks be removed or to revert to alpine pre HOT.

Shazmataz.1423:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Quint.3765:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

Thank you so much !!! now you just need to remove the Tactivators because clearly nobody wants them.

Speak for yourself please.

Tobias, did you actually read the “5 things most wanted” thread?? There were alot of people who asked that the new gimmicks be removed or to revert to alpine pre HOT.

And I could already see the posts from all the guilds who spent hundreds or thousands of gold on the upgrade.

Entenkommando.5208:

Shazmataz.1423:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Quint.3765:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

Thank you so much !!! now you just need to remove the Tactivators because clearly nobody wants them.

Speak for yourself please.

Tobias, did you actually read the “5 things most wanted” thread?? There were alot of people who asked that the new gimmicks be removed or to revert to alpine pre HOT.

And I could already see the posts from all the guilds who spent hundreds or thousands of gold on the upgrade.

So? Tough.

Nobody reimbursed me jack kitten when HoT completely invalidated my three-man guild’s upgrades and removed us the ability to +5 objectives or build guild siege.

msalakka.4653:

Entenkommando.5208:

Shazmataz.1423:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Quint.3765:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

Thank you so much !!! now you just need to remove the Tactivators because clearly nobody wants them.

Speak for yourself please.

Tobias, did you actually read the “5 things most wanted” thread?? There were alot of people who asked that the new gimmicks be removed or to revert to alpine pre HOT.

And I could already see the posts from all the guilds who spent hundreds or thousands of gold on the upgrade.

So? Tough.

Nobody reimbursed me jack kitten when HoT completely invalidated my three-man guild’s upgrades and removed us the ability to +5 objectives or build guild siege.

Fair point. Though you didn’t have to pay for the upgrades before. All you had to do was to actually play with your guild.

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

Please dont forget to change the dailys then.

Entenkommando.5208:

msalakka.4653:

Entenkommando.5208:

Shazmataz.1423:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Quint.3765:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

Thank you so much !!! now you just need to remove the Tactivators because clearly nobody wants them.

Speak for yourself please.

Tobias, did you actually read the “5 things most wanted” thread?? There were alot of people who asked that the new gimmicks be removed or to revert to alpine pre HOT.

And I could already see the posts from all the guilds who spent hundreds or thousands of gold on the upgrade.

So? Tough.

Nobody reimbursed me jack kitten when HoT completely invalidated my three-man guild’s upgrades and removed us the ability to +5 objectives or build guild siege.

Fair point. Though you didn’t have to pay for the upgrades before. All you had to do was to actually play with your guild.

And you prefer the gold solution?

Quint.3765:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

Thank you so much !!! now you just need to remove the Tactivators because clearly nobody wants them.

i hope they put tractivators in just think about all scribes spending all the money 2000g+ to reach the t3 updates for a keep the guilds that collected the materials…
what you will have is the same wvw everyone was complaining that there is nothing new… no update since release and ppl got bored

i know scribes have a huge impact to wvw but commanding got more interesting with the tractivators too. You have to think more strategic than before. I am not saying they are in balance but they give an additional bonus to the game mode. Tractivators stop you running headless into keeps at least.

msalakka.4653:

Entenkommando.5208:

Shazmataz.1423:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Quint.3765:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

Thank you so much !!! now you just need to remove the Tactivators because clearly nobody wants them.

Speak for yourself please.

Tobias, did you actually read the “5 things most wanted” thread?? There were alot of people who asked that the new gimmicks be removed or to revert to alpine pre HOT.

And I could already see the posts from all the guilds who spent hundreds or thousands of gold on the upgrade.

So? Tough.

Nobody reimbursed me jack kitten when HoT completely invalidated my three-man guild’s upgrades and removed us the ability to +5 objectives or build guild siege.

+1

Not having them makes sense. But if they were there here’s some funny ways they could have a special effect.
Water Keep: All shrines active, owning server can walk on water while the opposing servers swim at half speed.
Hills Keep: Boulders roll down the main road at random, and I liked the one suggestion with snow storms – maybe make a 20% miss chance.
Garrison: Portal in citadel directly into keep when owning all shrines.

But, no, they don’t belong in alpine BLs.

Heibi.4251:

Not having them makes sense. But if they were there here’s some funny ways they could have a special effect.
Water Keep: All shrines active, owning server can walk on water while the opposing servers swim at half speed.
Hills Keep: Boulders roll down the main road at random, and I liked the one suggestion with snow storms – maybe make a 20% miss chance.
Garrison: Portal in citadel directly into keep when owning all shrines.

But, no, they don’t belong in alpine BLs.

You could already portal from citadel to garri if you had a competent mesmer

Shazmataz.1423:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Quint.3765:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

Thank you so much !!! now you just need to remove the Tactivators because clearly nobody wants them.

Speak for yourself please.

Tobias, did you actually read the “5 things most wanted” thread?? There were alot of people who asked that the new gimmicks be removed or to revert to alpine pre HOT.

Yup I got an infraction for it iirc. Seriously idc how popular the view is, claiming to speak for other players is horsekitten.

Puck.9612:

Heibi.4251:

Not having them makes sense. But if they were there here’s some funny ways they could have a special effect.
Water Keep: All shrines active, owning server can walk on water while the opposing servers swim at half speed.
Hills Keep: Boulders roll down the main road at random, and I liked the one suggestion with snow storms – maybe make a 20% miss chance.
Garrison: Portal in citadel directly into keep when owning all shrines.

But, no, they don’t belong in alpine BLs.

You could already portal from citadel to garri if you had a competent mesmer

I’m aware of that as are many. Geez, can’t anyone take what’s written in the whole content in which it was offered? Notice that I said funny ways?(though more practical than funny) Garri would have the lava style portal in this case. Doesn’t have to be lava that they go through. Anyway, as I said, shrines don’t belong in the alpine BLs.

Tyler Bearce.3427:

No.

We aren’t changing anything regarding the layout of the map.

Does this mean that original map with the lake is back (= yippee!!!) or does it mean we get the ugly ruins back with the ill-thought-out ruins of power (creep) mechanism back?

I am all for getting the original classic map, the ruins always felt like they were glued on top the area where the lake used to be and the number of good fights there was far lower than the underwater combat I had. Since the underwater can also be avoided (player choice), this would increase versatility, instead of decreasing it.

I think they should bring back Quaggans for lulz. I’ve got my pearls all saved up still.

its funny when i read all of this, that you are divided in thought in other posts you all are rigid for a full roll back to two years back and ion here you are bickering about what should go and what you desire to keep.

If i read all your other post right all of the upgrades thart hapenned between the removal of Alpine, the introduction of desert with HoT and now the re-introduction of Alpine should be reversed so why is this an issue?

If you wish the maps back full old style then roll em back 100%.

end of dicussion

quaggans is PVE content loose it :P

Oh yes, full roll back before the stab change…. Remove all (really all) the HoT change…
And about the quaggans… Seriously, they where useless…. They didn’t change the MU… It’s not like the oasis event, or the banners…

Angel Heart.6739:

quaggans is PVE content loose it :P

Their lightning destroyed all the siege though. :/

Read the developers post… The Alpine BL’s are coming back.. and they will include the current updates. which means they will have tactics, auto upgrades etc… That’s why it’s taking them time to “dust off old content and bring it up to the current game state,”

All the yapping about taking this out, putting this in… waste of air space. They are putting the old bl’s back but with the new features.

I told evry-one before that that might be the outcome, so now you’re stuck with the same old for probably 2 years instead of having real change that would be positive and that would change the nature of WvW serving all.

That’s why i posted the poll/survey to interact with a larger portion of the WvW community instead of just the players on the forum.

it seems no one got the real message i was trying to spread.. I guess you’ll loose more ppl now my guild will.

I personally want the Desert bl’s with some minor changes… 1. Make all WP’s usable because it’s stupid to have them the way they are. 2. clear out the middle so it can be used for field battles and disallow siege on it. Those two things alone would make it so much more fun. in my opinion anyway..

As for losing people… if anything I know that the groups that I run with will most likely increase. So many people really hate the new bl’s and just won’t come play anymore except for wvw guild missions then they leave. With the Alpine coming back I know that a lot of them will come back and will love the fact that they don’t have to grind with Keep upgrades etc. The way it’s set up right now with the yak numbers coming in make it more interesting. So blending the new with the old should actually be pretty interesting. I still prefer the new overall, but if people come back and run with my tag like they say they will then I’m all for trying out the new/old/new.. lol