Guild Wars 2

This is a follow up thread of the other thread I made. Before posting here, please read the first post in my other thread to understand my original idea.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Queue-Priority-Based-on-WvW-Rank/

My original idea was to have queue priority based on WvW rank. But many players pointed out correctly that WvW is not a good indicator. A better indicator would be total time (e.g. in seconds) spent in WvW.

So once again, three things will have to happen at the same time.

1) WvW total time is the sum across all the characters in an account. It is not separated per character.
2) World transfer gem costs will be based on the player’s total time spent in WvW. Players who have spent very little time in WvW will actually receive free gems for transferring server. They get additional bonus gems for transferring to a lower ranking server.
3) Queue priority will be based on a player total time spent inside WvW.

Now I will get into each in detail.

1) Let’s say your character 1 played WvW for 10,000 seconds and character 2 played for 2,000 seconds. Your total WvW time is 12,000 seconds on your account.

2) The more time you spent in WvW, the more expensive it is to transfer your characters. I am not sure how to scale this. But you get the idea. Veteran players should stay with their existing server. At the same time WvW new players should be tempted to move.

My idea is actually to give free gems to new WvWers for transferring server. They get even more gems when they transfer to a very low ranking WvW server. This will eventually even out the server populations.

This isn’t a punishment for veteran players and guilds. It is actually protection for veterans.

Ok I don’t want this to come out in a bad way, but listen to this:

Anet has bring into question the issue of server population imbalance. The obvious answer is for guilds in tier 1 to be moved to lower tier servers.

But hey wait a minute here! Why should veteran players and guilds, who had fought for the same server for ages, be forced to transfer to make room for new players who had done relatively nothing for their server on the WvW side of things?

Why should these veterans move? If anyone should be moving, it should be those new WvW players. A new player transfer to a low tier server won’t matter to them as much as a veteran player. A new player also doesn’t have much personal bond with anyone, while a veteran player is already bonded with the local WvW population.

This new system would help these new WvWers to move. They will be given free gems to move. I think it is very fair.

3) This should be done by some kind of random chance system.

Example. Let’s say there are 2 guy waiting in queue for a borderland. Player 1 was the first to join the queue. Player 2 join after.

Player 1: 67k seconds
Player 2: 100k seconds

The combined time of player 1 and player 2 is 167k. Since 100/167=60%, there is a 60% chance that player 2 will overtake player 1 in the queue, when player 2 press the join button.

Now let’s say there is already 5 players in a queue, when player 6 joins in. Player 6 is level 120.

Player 1: 67k
Player 2: 100k
Player 3: 23k
Player 4: 45k
Player 5: 12k

Player 6 will first fight player 5 for the queue. Since 120/132=91%, there is a 91% chance that player 6 will overtake player 5 in the queue.

Assume that player 6 successfully take over player 5’s spot. He will be fighting against player 4 next. Since 120/165=73%, there is a 73% chance that player 6 will overtake player 4 in the queue.

Assume that player 6 got bad luck and he didn’t take over player 4, his spot will stop there. Here will be the new queue.

Player 1: 67k
Player 2: 100k
Player 3: 23k
Player 4: 45k
Player 6: 120k
Player 5: 12k

Player 6 have no idea how many players he beat in the queue. So re-queuing is meaningless. A high level player cannot abuse this by keep re-queuing. But having a higher WvW level does improve his chances of having a shorter queue.

No. Elitism. And free gems? Not going to happen.

Anything based on time spent in wvw or wvw rank isn’t going to fly, as it is elitism of the worst sort.

Elitism indeed. No thanks. This comes from a player who has been playing WvW since september 2012, so I’m not speaking up against this from a personal interest.

This is stupid and will also promote afking in wvw to keep their time up.

Also server loyalty is kinda meh, most big wvw guilds just hop around anyway..

x Charlie.4820:

This is stupid and will also promote afking in wvw to keep their time up.

Also server loyalty is kinda meh, most big wvw guilds just hop around anyway..

Just not a good idea. Anything that can be abused by those with more time is not needed.

First come, first served is the best way. The que system does NOT function this way currently. Our guild often ques groups at the same time, but seldom do we actually get the pop within a reasonable time frame.

People are leaving the game because we simply can’t WvW together as a guild. This isn’t about having a que, it’s not being able to get together with random pops… sometimes hours apart.

I understand what you are trying for but I don’t like your ideas so no thanks.

Didn’t like your first post, and don’t like your second one. ANET is very unlikely to support such a thing anyway. What’s next? The people with the highest achievements in PvE no longer have you go to an overflow server?

Queues aren’t really an issue anyway. If they are for you, go to a different server.

You have some terrible ideas man, while i understand what you are trying to go for, even the reasoning behind it all makes no sense.

Queues just need to act like real queues, thats it.

Ok… no. First of all offering players with little or no time in wvw free/ paid server transfers is really, really stupid. If I don’t play wvw then it doesn’t matter which server I’m on, I can guest anyhow. So what’s stopping me from just swapping servers every week and cashing in on my free gems? If anything the players with high wvw hours should be getting the discounts, why? Because which server we’re on might actually matter…
So what if I have no time in wvw at all, so if I literally have 0 seconds and I Q then people have a 100% chance to pass me, so I just what? Sit there until prime-time is over and no more Q? No thanks, I probably have about 600 hours (2,160,000 seconds) and I think that’s a really bad idea, what we need is First In, First Out.
When you go to the dmv it doesn’t matter if you make $0 a year, or $100,000 we all get in a line, and we all stand it in until we get done, same should be said for wvw rank, wvw time, whether we have a tag or not, if we’re in a wvw guild, or if we’re just starting out. Whoever gets there first should be rewarded for getting in Q first.

Your heart is in the right place, but your ideas are not very good. Sorry, mate.

What makes you more special than any other player in gw2. Get over yourself. Maybe try transfering to a non stacked server.

Chips is one of many people that have bandwagoned and are now complaining about not being able to get into wvw. Anet warned you, you didnt listen, deal with it.

Please stop making threads.

Omne.4603:

Please stop making threads.

Now that’s just mean. I understand he has a veteran community on his server, and he’s missing out cause of a random influx of new players.

It screams elitism.

well thats what u get for joining winning server but u cant get in to play whats the point now? lol.