Guild Wars 2

Proposal to remove the “Outmanned” buff.

Since the changes to armor repair to being free it lost its little purpose it ever has had. I am proposing this because it now just serves as nothing but to demoralize. There is no worst feeling than coming into a map and seeing “Outnumbered!”.

For what it’s worth, it’s entirely useless and should just be removed.

It’s not useless. It let’s low-population servers know when an enemy zerg has arrived on the map and what kind of attacks to prepare for.

Berk.8561:

It’s not useless. It let’s low-population servers know when an enemy zerg has arrived on the map and what kind of attacks to prepare for.

That’s why it should be removed.

Dancing Face.4695:

Berk.8561:

It’s not useless. It let’s low-population servers know when an enemy zerg has arrived on the map and what kind of attacks to prepare for.

That’s why it should be removed.

No, that is why it is useful. Let’s not forget the other things that outnumbered brings to kills.

Dancing Face.4695:

Berk.8561:

It’s not useless. It let’s low-population servers know when an enemy zerg has arrived on the map and what kind of attacks to prepare for.

That’s why it should be removed.

because the biggest zerg on the map totally needs another advantage

Hamster.4861:

Dancing Face.4695:

Berk.8561:

It’s not useless. It let’s low-population servers know when an enemy zerg has arrived on the map and what kind of attacks to prepare for.

That’s why it should be removed.

because the biggest zerg on the map totally needs another advantage

They would say they do. “In real life the biggest armies win, so why shouldn’t that be the case here?”

Hark! Here they come now!

I don’t get why it would be removed, though it does need a major rework due to the removal of armor repair costs

if anet remove the outnumbered buff , they should think how to make more balanced the matchups .

some players in the past suggested all home borders have a escalation depending the number of players that are playing in their home server. .

this feature will block the blob zoning at nights and outnumber servers will perform better the nights /early morning .

if anet add this feature , i am in to removed the outnumbered buff , else better do not touch it until they found a way to bring people all the time to wvw maps.

It’s actually a useful tool when map jumping late at night and roaming with a small group trying to ninja stuff to let you know when the enemy servers map jump blob has ported into the border to come kill you or whether a enemy servers blob is already in the map when u arrive

I like the outmanned buff. It lets low pop servers know when to do an all call and gives them an attempt to better organize themselves.

Hmm, well at least we are not still talking about dancing with glicko …

Lol why remove it, sure they need to make it more viable but remove ? No. Currently the smaller servers use this to see where they are … gasp …. Outmanned, this allows them to react accordingly which in many cases is futile anyways when facing much larger forces. Why would anyone want to give the larger forced MORE of an advantage, mind boggling that some people just can’t grasp this.

I’d love it to be expanded upon actually. I’d like overmanned armies to get a “Overmanned” debuff, where you no longer get a downed state.

You should still be able to win since you outnumber the other side, unless of course you are a terrible zerg, and the other, smaller opponent groups are more organized and skillful.

Right petition to name it “Precursor Farm Buff”

Oh wait…Never mind RNG hates me.

dandamanno.4136:

I’d love it to be expanded upon actually. I’d like overmanned armies to get a “Overmanned” debuff, where you no longer get a downed state.

You should still be able to win since you outnumber the other side, unless of course you are a terrible zerg, and the other, smaller opponent groups are more organized and skillful.

That would be interesting. We know they can remove it (due to the upcoming “feature” patch newbie leveling changes), so it could be done. Don’t think it would be that helpful for the outmanned server, since they probably wouldn’t have enough numbers to down any of the enemy zerg/blob.

Outmanned needs to just be changed, not removed. They should have done something to compensate for the removal of repair costs. We know they’re against stat increases, but there has to be something else that can be done to replace the repair costs.

Berk.8561:

It’s not useless. It let’s low-population servers know when an enemy zerg has arrived on the map and what kind of attacks to prepare for.

In T2, lag spikes are what key us off to an immanent attack. Server response slows down time to defend.

They should add a point per stomp/kill if outnumbered. It doesn’t affect the fight much but at least the outnumbered team can get some points defending before everything gets flipped.

Outmanned is just a warning sign, nothing more

skullmount.1758:

dandamanno.4136:

I’d love it to be expanded upon actually. I’d like overmanned armies to get a “Overmanned” debuff, where you no longer get a downed state.

You should still be able to win since you outnumber the other side, unless of course you are a terrible zerg, and the other, smaller opponent groups are more organized and skillful.

That would be interesting. We know they can remove it (due to the upcoming “feature” patch newbie leveling changes), so it could be done. Don’t think it would be that helpful for the outmanned server, since they probably wouldn’t have enough numbers to down any of the enemy zerg/blob.

Oh it would really change the scenario at least on the most of the lower tiers, where you have one mindless blob taking the other servers stuff.

Most of time they die like a EotM K-train under a single superior AC. Without downed state it would make so much easier to stop their attacks that I’m sure the scores would be a bit more balanced.

retsuya.4708:

They should add a point per stomp/kill if outnumbered. It doesn’t affect the fight much but at least the outnumbered team can get some points defending before everything gets flipped.

I don’t know… This would lead to the elitist groups complaining you joined their outmanned map and they lost their buff which was making them give points to the server by killing people. The idea is good but you know how some people are….