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Posted by: ShadowMaster.5708

ShadowMaster.5708

Let me all present FoW and vabbi for you guys, shall i?

Wow,that is pretty sad to see.But can you blame them not bothering.

Hmm well, thats how the 2 servers work. they are NEVER apart, always getting the same matchup. Thats because of the low population and very low WvW interesst on there…

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Posted by: wootrick.4168

wootrick.4168

Let me all present FoW and vabbi for you guys, shall i?

This makes me pretty angry. I typically cut anet a lot more slack than most, but as someone who came from ET (the bottom of the bottom of NA), this infuriates me. You can’t blame FoW and Vabbi for not showing up – I bet everyone who cares about WvW has transferred off by now. And that third server is probably bored out of their mind as well. There will always some discrepancy in WvW populations, I’m sure, but anet really needs to do something about this. I realize that it’s probably complicated, but could they at least seriously acknowledge the problem?

I’m not typically one to jump on the “WvW takes a total backseat to PvE and PvP” qq bandwagon, but somedays it really feels like WvW does.

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Posted by: yesfourme.8906

yesfourme.8906

this is no fun and not fair for other server. now what to do after take all? sit for hours and no play wvw till they have a chance for taking stuff back? i and friends want to level rank, not sit around playing with ourselves.

Are you kidding me? You are partially the reason why they don’t want to come out. If I were the enemies, your safe presence on the keep is telling everyone that there are more of you waiting to wipe us. So why would anyone bother fighting you knowing it is a lost battle? The joke is on you for acting like that.

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Posted by: DeadlySynz.3471

DeadlySynz.3471

Anet has a very simple and easy way to fix the majority of these mass blow outs. In doing so, will probably make the matches a lot closer, and it may even indirectly force players/guilds to change servers.

Turn the PPT off during the hours that time zone would generally be sleeping. Like say 10pm to 8am. Mismatched points.. gone.

People generally play the game for the fights, so it shouldn’t make a lick of difference whether or not the PPT is even ticking. Work done in off hours to maintain as much of the map as they can (and siege it up) is just as valuable during prime time.

If PPT is important to those who are playing and want to be on when it ticks, change servers then, simple. You’ll probably find the server populations naturally balancing out.

Anet.. make it happen, you’d solve so many problems over night by doing so.

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Posted by: ykyk.2740

ykyk.2740

Anet has a very simple and easy way to fix the majority of these mass blow outs. In doing so, will probably make the matches a lot closer, and it may even indirectly force players/guilds to change servers.

Turn the PPT off during the hours that time zone would generally be sleeping. Like say 10pm to 8am. Mismatched points.. gone.

People generally play the game for the fights, so it shouldn’t make a lick of difference whether or not the PPT is even ticking. Work done in off hours to maintain as much of the map as they can (and siege it up) is just as valuable during prime time.

If PPT is important to those who are playing and want to be on when it ticks, change servers then, simple. You’ll probably find the server populations naturally balancing out.

Anet.. make it happen, you’d solve so many problems over night by doing so.

Please go away. Good job promoting MORE population segregation into timezone-specific servers and forcing people who want to play in certain timezones to switch servers. Nevermind if people want to stay up late to help their server, or if people have different sleep cycles because they work at odd timings, nope. It’s all about you.

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Posted by: Hule.8794

Hule.8794

Let me all present FoW and vabbi for you guys, shall i?

but but but it is old. We have not fought FoW and Vabbi for at least a MONTH

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Posted by: Hexd.4796

Hexd.4796

Odd how the official response is the same response we got to this problem when the game was released, the whole system needs an overhaul

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Posted by: Kranky.8231

Kranky.8231

The entire guild I am apart of on TC was disappointed when we saw that we were still matched up against BG and SOR Friday. Pretty much all of the main WvW guilds have decided to sit out of WvW and do fractals and other PvE stuff instead of give the other two servers free bags it would seem.

Your suggestion that the main WvW guilds are sitting this matchup out is absolute nonsense.

The real WvW guilds and players are all still showing up, having fun and adapting to new strategies. Real WvW TC players don’t step backwards, no matter what the odds, ever. Despite a bit more lag the regulars are enjoying this match up. When we lose we don’t sit around crying in our milk like babies. When we get beaten know we are going to get better, it’s always been that way.

The fairweathers are awol however and there’s less whining and shorter ques to contend with, so there’s a lot to like about this match up.

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Posted by: Vena.8436

Vena.8436

The fairweathers are awol however and there’s less whining and shorter ques to contend with, so there’s a lot to like about this match up.

Everyone has the fairweather problem, and come… 10 hours from now, I suspect BG will only have queues in Divinity’s Reach and the Pavilion.

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Posted by: Carize.8532

Carize.8532

Well, I’m happy to say that the JQ/FA/MG fight is finally heating up. Maguuma pushed us out of a lot of their red bl stuff and made us work hard to take it back (when we could), and Ft. Aspenwood is doing the same. It’s a fight again. I’m competitive…I don’t like losing but I also didn’t like the way WuvWuv felt when we owned the map. That’s boring and doesn’t make us try hard, just get lazy. A TC/JQ/FA fight would be cool (fingers crossed for next week).

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Posted by: tasha.4176

tasha.4176

this is no fun and not fair for other server. now what to do after take all? sit for hours and no play wvw till they have a chance for taking stuff back? i and friends want to level rank, not sit around playing with ourselves.

Are you kidding me? You are partially the reason why they don’t want to come out. If I were the enemies, your safe presence on the keep is telling everyone that there are more of you waiting to wipe us. So why would anyone bother fighting you knowing it is a lost battle? The joke is on you for acting like that.

i wasn’t the one doing that. it is what i woke up to. and the commanders there wanted everyone to quit it…those are the few idiots who started upgrading their keep and farming them. it’s not fair to me and everyone else who want’s to have a some what of an evenly matched battle in wvw. i want to level my rank and have something to do. it is beyond unfair for everyone in our map.

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Posted by: Denthamos.8140

Denthamos.8140

The entire guild I am apart of on TC was disappointed when we saw that we were still matched up against BG and SOR Friday. Pretty much all of the main WvW guilds have decided to sit out of WvW and do fractals and other PvE stuff instead of give the other two servers free bags it would seem.

I’m sorry but this is aggravating for the guilds who actually do WvW on TC. Please next time you post, put what guild you are in because you or your guild doesn’t represent TC as a whole.

We are having a blast in Tier 1 and working with other TC guilds. If you are disappointed with this, do us a favor and just transfer off.

Dont get me wrong, I am enjoying the fight as well and have since stopped repping that guild and joined up into another more active WvW guild. I am simply not stating the name of the aforementioned guild I left to be respectful to them.

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Posted by: CodexG.7593

CodexG.7593

Time to bring this thread back to the front page. Last matchup my server faced Drakkar Lake which completely slaughtered us. However this week we got matched against it once again. They’ve already taken most of the map and zerg us every time we try to do something. Thank you AN for another horrible week in WvW.

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Posted by: Chris.3290

Chris.3290

I see that #3 is facing #16 in EU.

The compression of rating in the EU section is not doing anyone any favors. Is the skill range really that close and competitive, or has this system completely hosed EU WvW?

I look forward to every reset with excitement, but I have to say we’ve only had maybe one competitive matchup (I’m on SoS) since this system began. Other than that one (thank you Maguuma), the matchup was decided when the system decided the teams.

I know that the tiered system is unkind to the 3rd place team. You look in any long term 3-way that is in place or even that was in place, and you’ll find a lot of buthurt on the 3rd server (completely justified).
However, this system doesn’t make it much better. The 3 way matchups make it highly unlikely that you’ll get the kind of matchups you want (typically no more than one higher and no less than two lower).

SoS had fun fighting DB, but the same can’t be said for CD. TC probably found SoR to be incredibly challenging, but probably wasn’t thrilled to be with BG at the same time (though they have taken this in stride).

FA vs JQ was bad enough, but Maguuma (as is their habit) wasn’t even able to put up much of a fight until the workweek began.

There have been some success stories, and there always are. GoM has proven much stronger than many thought. DH improved their lot greatly over this time as well. BP, SoS, and CD moved up a tier…and that’s about it.

So to recap, servers have seen fair improvement in rankings, and 2 imploded (EB is still pretty good, but much weaker than they were); and the rest are exactly where they were +/- 1 rank.

So the question to ask, is there any further benefit to a system that replaced 1 out of 3 servers having a rough week, to one that fluctuates 1/3 to 2/3 of servers having a bad week?

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Posted by: Istaf.1953

Istaf.1953

FA vs JQ was bad enough, but Maguuma (as is their habit) wasn’t even able to put up much of a fight until the workweek began.

I had fun this week tbh. The PPT is way off, but FA and I assume Mag as well doesn’t have as large of a night crew as JQ. During prime time the fights were generally good and we’d even the PPT. Then wake up and find everything was flipped by their night crew.

Personally I don’t care about PPT. I don’t go into WvW with PPT on my mind, I go in for the massive fights. So over all good week for me, lots of bags and the servers were rarely dead when I was on.

[RET] Medicalstaf
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Posted by: Dayra.7405

Dayra.7405

I see that #3 is facing #16 in EU.

EU-Ranks #1 – #10 can play against each other in EU-prime-time, ofc #1 wins vs #10, but only due to coverage, not for being better in the field, when both are there.

Likely EU has a better player spread than NA, due to the national servers, that balance WTJ.

That really bad thing on the old system was: Once you are in an imbalanced match, you are stuck in this imbalance. The poor Kodash got hit by Elona for 13 weeks in a row, till the broken old system finally let us go up to win T1 instead of dominate T2. When you loose against always the same opponents week for week, without any hope for a change, you face the real disaster the old system was.

Now you have a chance for more diversity
- once a week where you are outnumbered and face the challenge of guerrilla-play
- once a tight match, where every point counts (rare now, but rare in the old system as well)
- once a week, where you are forced to dominate by the rating system.

More variance in game play and more diversity in challenges. I like it more.

Still I think the likelihood of extreme dice-rolls should be reduced!
ANet should replace the uniform-dice by a Gaussian- or normal-dice.

Ceterum censeo SFR esse delendam!

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Posted by: Draygo.9473

Draygo.9473

Let me all present FoW and vabbi for you guys, shall i?

Why do people keep using vabbi as an example?

Vabbi is mostly dead wvw server. It simply does not have much of a wvw population, no matter who you match it against, it gets stomped and stomped hard.

To fix it arenanet needs to merge the bottom 3 uk servers into 3 other uk servers. I think anet overestimated the number of uk players. Note that other language eu servers have populations and are all fighting. and on the us side even our bottom teir servers are putting up points in wvw. But in EU? The bottom two servers consistently fail to score significant points. Its time for them to be closed.

Delarme
Apathy Inc [Ai]

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Posted by: Chris.3290

Chris.3290

Let me all present FoW and vabbi for you guys, shall i?

Why do people keep using vabbi as an example?

Vabbi is mostly dead wvw server. It simply does not have much of a wvw population, no matter who you match it against, it gets stomped and stomped hard.

To fix it arenanet needs to merge the bottom 3 uk servers into 3 other uk servers. I think anet overestimated the number of uk players. Note that other language eu servers have populations and are all fighting. and on the us side even our bottom teir servers are putting up points in wvw. But in EU? The bottom two servers consistently fail to score significant points. Its time for them to be closed.

I don’t know if they need to be merged just because of WvW. If their PvE is also empty then they might have to look at the unpopular (but necessary) idea of closing those servers and granting free transfers to those on them.

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Posted by: Threepsie.3248

Threepsie.3248

I usually love to WvW, but this week is the third time in a row that we (Gandara) get a matchup where one server zergrolls over the other two. This week we face Elona’s Reach [DE] (rank 3) and Far Shiverpeaks (rank 16) , of which the first is currently zergblobbing the other two servers at 02:00 AM (they nearly have all borderland maps and the only fight happening is on EB).

So for now, I leave WvW for as it is and can’t be bothered by it anymore until the matchups become more decent and fun to do again…

Wouldn’t it also be useful that the weekly match-ups gets validated by an ANet employee to prevent these kind of huge mismatches? I agree that the system may need to learn, but this is something that just can’t happen!

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Posted by: White Raven.4368

White Raven.4368

It is early days yet for Deso but we made a good start.

5. Desolation 9 378
1. Vizunah Square 8 286
2. Seafarer’s Rest 8 321

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Posted by: Pinko.2076

Pinko.2076

Another week, another instance of t2/t3 of NA showing that you should manually match servers.

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Posted by: Lutto.8745

Lutto.8745

I dont understand what Anet did to WvW… You destroyed it for so many players.

Last 3 weeks for rank 13 Gandara!

Week 30
Aguryrock rank 10
Riverside rank 8
This was not funny but it was okay and a great challange to not get streamrolled.

Week 31
Aurora glade rank 14
Jade Sea rank 6
Aurora glade is a great matchup for us but Jade sea was just blobbing with massive numbers and destroyed all the fun for the entire week and they should not be matched against us.

Week 32
Far shiverpeaks rank 16
Elona Reach rank 3
Are you freaking kidding me? match a rank 3 server against 13 and 16? They are already steamrolling 4am with blobb and mass golems and taking over the entire map..

So whats next week? Vizunah?! I just want fair good and abit of a challange but I dont want to get steamrolled by a far superior server each week. This cant be intended and this is just bad matchmaking that you do nothing about even tho you know about the problem?

Time to step up and actually give a kitten about WvW Anet..

Sorry about bad grammar its really late.

Member of [SoZ] GM of mEIGHT [mEJT]
S1/S2 Legend Engineer @ Gandara EU.

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Posted by: Rackhir Tanelorn.9123

Rackhir Tanelorn.9123

So the question to ask, is there any further benefit to a system that replaced 1 out of 3 servers having a rough week, to one that fluctuates 1/3 to 2/3 of servers having a bad week?

I don’t see it as an “either/or” choice…

Personally all ANet would have to do is set things up so either every other week (or 2 out of 3 weeks) Servers played “in-tier” (1/2/3, 4/5/6, etc) followed by a single week of random Matches. They can even keep the color assignments random for a little more variety.

Ratings need a periodic “reality check” outside tiers to help corrections but in general Servers should get to play their closest ranked opponents.

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Posted by: Charlie.5680

Charlie.5680

Another week, another terrible matchup.

FA/SoS/CD.

At least we at SoS have a fighting chance, CD in the other hand, +30 on reset night…

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Posted by: soulartistrb.7509

soulartistrb.7509

Another week, another terrible matchup.

FA/SoS/CD.

At least we at SoS have a fighting chance, CD in the other hand, +30 on reset night…

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Posted by: Boomstin.3460

Boomstin.3460

Wonder when the devs will wake up from their slumber and stop ruining their own game?

All is vain.

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Posted by: Macheek.6840

Macheek.6840

after 1st night:
3. Elona Reach [DE] – 33.359
13. Gandara – 8.289
16. Far Shiverpeaks – 7.367
THANK YOU, anet. this system reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally works well… what will we see next week? that vabbi is on the same page with seafarers rest? how long will it take for you to see that this system is broken? its not first week we are up against a lot stroger enemies. gandara is not wvw dead server, but what can we do as semi casuals vs language strick servers with 1000000000 people blobs… in other words: this system suck hard, face it.

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Posted by: Hule.8794

Hule.8794

Why do people keep using vabbi as an example?

Vabbi is mostly dead wvw server. It simply does not have much of a wvw population, no matter who you match it against, it gets stomped and stomped hard.

Why merging? They still have fun in WvW. Only they dont have zergs. Yes FoW have now greater numbers, but there are some great small scale fights.

So they still have fun even when FoW outnumbers them in the night.

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Posted by: Esuni.2498

Esuni.2498

Ive come to believe that you can just flame Anet into hell in this thread and they wouldnt read it.

Seriously this fsp/gandara/ER matchup went too far….
Can’t really get proper fights unless youre lucky and find some gandakitten ople..
I like how fsp still gains points while having 5 times less points than ER

Aurora Glade – Esuni [TUP]

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Posted by: Jamais vu.5284

Jamais vu.5284

Almost 50k views. Has Anet advanced past the phase of “the players are just resistant to change!”-mindset yet and takes the criticism seriously now?

Also

gandakitten ople.

Lol @ Mr “We have not intentions to change the censoring system at this point” from a few days ago.

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Posted by: yesfourme.8906

yesfourme.8906

BG and Mag had 50 points each in wvw a few min ago. FA is just tearing everyone. We were clearly outnumbered, but it didn’t show on our screen. And Arenet still didn’t bother giving more intensive for the 2 servers to play (extra bonus to armor, health or something). Most of our casual players on BG don’t show up, because they hate being destroyed. So we were “fighting” 1 vs 2.

Well good news: I am quitting officially this tuesday. I may come back in a month to see if anything has changed. Good luck Arenet. You rock by doing nothing for wvw.

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Posted by: Istaf.1953

Istaf.1953

Aside of PPT, are other servers getting good fights or is it as one sided as the PPT is in some cases?

I’m not saying this system is awesome, but if you’re getting good fights who cares? Fighting 1 to 2 have generally been the most fun fights for me.

Shout out to the CD that took long view from our 10ish man ele team last night. Really one of the most fun fights I’ve been in in a while.

[RET] Medicalstaf
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Posted by: Simonoly.4352

Simonoly.4352

Okay I’ve given it time to settle etc, but the current WvW matchup server is not getting any better. Rank 3 Elona Reach Vs. Rank 16 FSP? That’s beyond ridiculous. It’s so hard to engage with the mechanics of WvW in an intelligent way with such huge population imbalances. Points and ratings are of no interest to me – interesting, fun and balanced battles are.

I feel that the current matchup system is undermining much of what was intended with WvW.

Gandara

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Posted by: Tietus.8013

Tietus.8013

About 12 hours after reset, 4/8 NA and 4/9 EU matchups appear headed for blow-outs.

16/51 servers essentially spend the rest of the week avoiding zergs trying to find half-decent fights. Fairweathers, of course, are nowhere to be seen.

8/51 servers get bored because there’s nobody to fight their zergs, and their karma trains run dry with little/no flipping going on.

The remaining 27 servers have a fun week.

I know in my business that if only 52% of my customers found my products and service satisfactory, I’d be in trouble. But I suppose there is a certain perverse pleasure in trying to find ways to annoy the kitten out of the zerg monster servers we have to play.

I find it hard to believe that Anet considers the current state of affairs to be working as intended.

[VR] Tietus
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Posted by: Alex.6483

Alex.6483

What a joke again.

The fun of wvwvw is being sucked out of us. Heavily outnumbered in a T16 vs T3 match, most people just give up now and we get steamrolled even more. Don’t even start with that bullkitten that you learn form these match ups. Anet wvwvw team is seriously slacking and apparently not paying attention to a long long list of complaints. How long does this thread has to become before Anet realizes that these match ups are not working. Utter crap.

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Posted by: Dayra.7405

Dayra.7405

About 12 hours after reset, 4/8 NA and 4/9 EU matchups appear headed for blow-outs.

If
NA-4 vs NA-5 is 28 726 : 13 262
NA-6 vs NA-7 is 25 005 : 15 588
(!!) NA-15 vs NA-13 is 22 692 : 14 307 (!!)
(!!) EU-11 vs EU-9 is 34 209 : 23 032 (!!)
(!!) EU-21 vs EU-19 is 48 586 : 19 982 (!!)
(!!) EU-22 vs EU-20 is 39 406 : 22 181 (!!)
there is no way any matchup-system can produce better matches.
In the new system, the loosing servers may be lucky to get a simpler opponent next week. In the old system these matches would stay for month if not even forever.

Ceterum censeo SFR esse delendam!

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Posted by: Pinko.2076

Pinko.2076

About 12 hours after reset, 4/8 NA and 4/9 EU matchups appear headed for blow-outs.

If
NA-4 vs NA-5 is 28 726 : 13 262
NA-6 vs NA-7 is 25 005 : 15 588
(!!) NA-15 vs NA-13 is 22 692 : 14 307 (!!)
(!!) EU-11 vs EU-9 is 34 209 : 23 032 (!!)
(!!) EU-21 vs EU-19 is 48 586 : 19 982 (!!)
(!!) EU-22 vs EU-20 is 39 406 : 22 181 (!!)
there is no way any matchup-system can produce better matches.
In the new system, the loosing servers may be lucky to get a simpler opponent next week. In the old system these matches would stay for month if not even forever.

Of course there’s ways to get better matchups. This high random roll is one of the laziest ways possible to try to spice things up.

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Posted by: Tietus.8013

Tietus.8013

About 12 hours after reset, 4/8 NA and 4/9 EU matchups appear headed for blow-outs.

If
NA-4 vs NA-5 is 28 726 : 13 262
NA-6 vs NA-7 is 25 005 : 15 588
(!!) NA-15 vs NA-13 is 22 692 : 14 307 (!!)
there is no way any matchup-system can produce better matches.
In the new system, the loosing servers may be lucky to get a simpler opponent next week. In the old system these matches would stay for month if not even forever.

This may be true, but it is hard to avoid the conclusion that a large fraction of the player base are not able enjoy competitive WvW matches because Anet have lost control of the game. Whether you like it or not, it will never be possible to produce a match-making system that results in few blow-outs if nothing is done about server size imbalances. I suspect I am not the first to make this observation

[VR] Tietus
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Posted by: CoenVissegerd.4568

CoenVissegerd.4568

Let me all present FoW and vabbi for you guys, shall i?

Let us see how u do next time…. FoW is on the rise mark my words. And we don’t want no server merges, no nothing. We are waiting with great anticipation for better matchup for us.

Come at me bro…

PS. look at last 2 weeks, and also be sure to check this week.. Posting a screen thats over a month old… Weak move my RoF ‘firend’.

WE ARE WAITING

EDIT:
i eat necros like you for dinner – always running hmmmm…..

Fissure of Woe
Merridd [DEEP] commander

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Posted by: Frood.8437

Frood.8437

So Far Shiverpeaks and Gandara are getting rolled ATM and its got me thinking. Heres a thing, if this is happening a lot in other matchup why not introduce a Diplomacy option that if one server gets enough money together they can literally buy the other server off as a merc and become two servers but friendly to the other. This would induce greater option for fair play and a fair amount of backstabbing I would think. Maybe a server can break its ties but suffer a forfeit if it gets a better pay offer from the greater server.

Of course this could be exploited….

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Posted by: Jamais vu.5284

Jamais vu.5284

Aside of PPT, are other servers getting good fights or is it as one sided as the PPT is in some cases?

I’m not saying this system is awesome, but if you’re getting good fights who cares? Fighting 1 to 2 have generally been the most fun fights for me.

PPT isn’t just some abstract number.
It means you have only T1 towers at your disposal and the opponent perpetually fully upgraded T3 towers.

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Posted by: Istaf.1953

Istaf.1953

Aside of PPT, are other servers getting good fights or is it as one sided as the PPT is in some cases?

I’m not saying this system is awesome, but if you’re getting good fights who cares? Fighting 1 to 2 have generally been the most fun fights for me.

PPT isn’t just some abstract number.
It means you have only T1 towers at your disposal and the opponent perpetually fully upgraded T3 towers.

Isn’t it though? Towers only really matter if you’re going for PPT. Last week for us it was JQ/FA/Mag, Mag came in last by far and JQ ahead by over double. Mag were much fiercer opponents than JQ. PPT =/= Skill

[RET] Medicalstaf
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Posted by: Niim.9260

Niim.9260

One of the key issues in my opinion with this system is that it diminishes choice and reason for playing on lower ranked servers. As an example, this obviously applies to a lot of tiers, in the old system playing in T3 was a pretty decent compromise. Still fairly active servers, but with very little skill lag and smaller zergs. If you are not interested in being #1NA then it was a good tier to be in.

The new system tosses you more often then not with some big zerg server that creates skill lag wherever they go. Most matches pit you against 1 or more zerg servers, so the compromise of being on a lower population server no longer has the benefits of no skill lag and smaller zergs.

I am totally cool if a bunch of players want to blob up and play with 70 of their closest friends running around PvDooring in the name of PPT, but I object being forced to fight them because of a lazy RNG approach to mixing up matches.

~ AoN ~

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Posted by: Boomstin.3460

Boomstin.3460

Aside of PPT, are other servers getting good fights or is it as one sided as the PPT is in some cases?

I’m not saying this system is awesome, but if you’re getting good fights who cares? Fighting 1 to 2 have generally been the most fun fights for me.

PPT isn’t just some abstract number.
It means you have only T1 towers at your disposal and the opponent perpetually fully upgraded T3 towers.

Isn’t it though? Towers only really matter if you’re going for PPT. Last week for us it was JQ/FA/Mag, Mag came in last by far and JQ ahead by over double. Mag were much fiercer opponents than JQ. PPT =/= Skill

Tower’s/Keeps matter the other ways too. Once the coverage server has upgraded everything the capped overnight , they refuse to come out from their tier 3 keeps/towers if they don’t outnumber you atleast 3 to 1. Fighting agains’t tier3 walls and arrowcarts is boring.
But that’s something the devs want the wvw to be so i guess there’s no point complaining about it.

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Posted by: Istaf.1953

Istaf.1953

Tower’s/Keeps matter the other ways too. Once the coverage server has upgraded everything the capped overnight , they refuse to come out from their tier 3 keeps/towers if they don’t outnumber you atleast 3 to 1. Fighting agains’t tier3 walls and arrowcarts is boring.
But that’s something the devs want the wvw to be so i guess there’s no point complaining about it.

Yea JQ did that a lot last match up. That’s when you treb. Then they have to come out. Sure might take longer but that’s how you counter that.

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

I hate new match up system

How can you hate Fort Ranik? They all run GC rangers with shortbows…

Lv 80 Guard, Ranger, Ele, Thief, warr, engi
Currently @ some T1 server in EU

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Posted by: Seigfried.5938

Seigfried.5938

Anet has a very simple and easy way to fix the majority of these mass blow outs. In doing so, will probably make the matches a lot closer, and it may even indirectly force players/guilds to change servers.

Turn the PPT off during the hours that time zone would generally be sleeping. Like say 10pm to 8am. Mismatched points.. gone.

People generally play the game for the fights, so it shouldn’t make a lick of difference whether or not the PPT is even ticking. Work done in off hours to maintain as much of the map as they can (and siege it up) is just as valuable during prime time.

If PPT is important to those who are playing and want to be on when it ticks, change servers then, simple. You’ll probably find the server populations naturally balancing out.

Anet.. make it happen, you’d solve so many problems over night by doing so.

I paid just as much and was promised just as much as any NA player, so why should I be denied it?

Gandara → SoS → BG → Gandara → SFR

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Posted by: DeadlySynz.3471

DeadlySynz.3471

Some of you need to get it out of your head that you were promised this and that. The PPT is just a simple number that ticks and nothing more. It does not affect your game play in any way shape or form, and you’d be a complete fool to think it does. Nothing changes, notta, zilch, zero, just a lot less complaining.

Put it this way, this method was heavily favored before and for good reason. The amount of complaining that goes on with people is coming because of blowout matches. The easiest, quickest, and cheapest way for Anet to solve it is do one of 2 things:

1). Remove it entirely
2). Shut it off during off hours when these blowouts occur

The amount of people it’d pacify greatly outnumbers those it’d tick off. Most people say they play for the fights? Fine prove it then…

Question is, what do those people do if/when Anet decides to tinker with WvW’s biggest handicap (PPT), do people switch to different servers, continue on, or quit? Hint: 2 out of the 3 would drastically help the majority of the servers in WvW..

So ill ask you again, out of all possible solutions, given the path of least resistance, what route do you think Anet will take? If your game is based on PPt in anyway, your just setting yourself up for disappointment and should probably find a new game entirely.

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Posted by: Seigfried.5938

Seigfried.5938

Some of you need to get it out of your head that you were promised this and that. The PPT is just a simple number that ticks and nothing more. It does not affect your game play in any way shape or form, and you’d be a complete fool to think it does. Nothing changes, notta, zilch, zero, just a lot less complaining.

Put it this way, this method was heavily favored before and for good reason. The amount of complaining that goes on with people is coming because of blowout matches. The easiest, quickest, and cheapest way for Anet to solve it is do one of 2 things:

1). Remove it entirely
2). Shut it off during off hours when these blowouts occur

The amount of people it’d pacify greatly outnumbers those it’d tick off. Most people say they play for the fights? Fine prove it then…

Question is, what do those people do if/when Anet decides to tinker with WvW’s biggest handicap (PPT), do people switch to different servers, continue on, or quit? Hint: 2 out of the 3 would drastically help the majority of the servers in WvW..

So ill ask you again, out of all possible solutions, given the path of least resistance, what route do you think Anet will take? If your game is based on PPt in anyway, your just setting yourself up for disappointment and should probably find a new game entirely.

If you remove PPT during off hours, more than half the people won’t show up. Who am I to fight then? Sorry, this solution doesn’t work for me.

Gandara → SoS → BG → Gandara → SFR

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Posted by: ykyk.2740

ykyk.2740

Some of you need to get it out of your head that you were promised this and that. The PPT is just a simple number that ticks and nothing more. It does not affect your game play in any way shape or form, and you’d be a complete fool to think it does. Nothing changes, notta, zilch, zero, just a lot less complaining.

Put it this way, this method was heavily favored before and for good reason. The amount of complaining that goes on with people is coming because of blowout matches. The easiest, quickest, and cheapest way for Anet to solve it is do one of 2 things:

1). Remove it entirely
2). Shut it off during off hours when these blowouts occur

The amount of people it’d pacify greatly outnumbers those it’d tick off. Most people say they play for the fights? Fine prove it then…

Question is, what do those people do if/when Anet decides to tinker with WvW’s biggest handicap (PPT), do people switch to different servers, continue on, or quit? Hint: 2 out of the 3 would drastically help the majority of the servers in WvW..

So ill ask you again, out of all possible solutions, given the path of least resistance, what route do you think Anet will take? If your game is based on PPt in anyway, your just setting yourself up for disappointment and should probably find a new game entirely.

If you remove PPT during off hours, more than half the people won’t show up. Who am I to fight then? Sorry, this solution doesn’t work for me.

He’s been posting that nonsense everywhere forever. Doesn’t seem to get into the head that there are people who play in different timezones. There are no “off-hours” – your “off-hours” are my prime time. Maybe we should turn the ppt off when DeadlySynz plays instead, I’ll be fine with that.