[Suggestion] Cancelling Upgrades

[Suggestion] Cancelling Upgrades

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Posted by: Deathdealers.2108

Deathdealers.2108

I would post this in the Suggestions forum, but that’s been archived with nowhere else designed for it, so here this goes.

My idea is to allow the ability to Cancel an Upgrade that is currently in progression, either for a Camp, Tower, Keep, or the Castle. Cancelling it will only return 50% of the original Supply used. However, in order to cancel it, it must be physically requested by the players.

Similar to how a set number of players must “Talk” to Siegecrusher to activate him, this method will be used for the Supervisor of the according objective.

  • 5 People are required to Vote towards cancelling the current upgrade on a Camp.
  • 10 People are required to Vote towards cancelling the current upgrade on a Tower.
  • 25 People are required to Vote towards cancelling the current upgrade on a Keep or SMC.

In the very similar method of Siegecrusher, these people must not only be able to vote, but also be present during the voting process (near the NPC).


Why is this necessary? Well, come on, you all know how it is to defend something when some noob (or spy) queued up an upgrade on that objective, to drain the supply and lose the objective.

This would provide an easier means of defending the objective when necessary, at a cost of half the supply, and progress towards that upgrade would be lost.

The Keeps and SMC would require 25, to ensure that enough players support the decision to cancel the upgrade. The sheer number of 25 would most likely limit it towards Guild-orientated decisions.

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[Suggestion] Cancelling Upgrades

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Posted by: Kraag Deadsoul.2789

Kraag Deadsoul.2789

I can appreciate where this suggestion is coming from. However, in attempting to address one shortcoming of the upgrading system, it introduces unintended consequences. Namely, it will allow trolls/saboteurs to take advantage of it.

I realize you attempted to counter this by suggesting a cancellation requires a vote of more than 1 player. Unfortunately, what’s to stop a guild of trolls/saboteurs from collectively voting to cancel legitimate upgrades?

Alternately, there are times when there may not even be enough players online to meet the minimum number required to pass a cancel vote, let alone get them to coordinate efforts by meeting up at the same tower or keep at the same time.

So, as well intentioned as this suggestion is, it has too many detractions and opens up too great a risk for griefing.

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Posted by: Eliandal.8735

Eliandal.8735

I’d actually like a simpler version of this suggestion. Allow a claiming guild to over-ride an upgrade. I pretty much never claim now simply because of the mass of people who think fortify is everything. Guilds should be allowed to ‘redirect’ upgrading efforts (at 50% or even 75% loss).

As it stands – claiming is not really worth much now. The buffs – especially with the advance of players, are relatively meaningless. This would at least allow some semblance of control. It would also be fairly easy to observe and report (whether anything would be done is another matter) guilds ‘gaming’ the system.

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