Guild Wars 2

Korbaal.6402:

Arkanfel.8403:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Arkanfel.8403:

Consolidating servers is something that Just Isn’t Done in MMOs, because it makes it look like the game is not performing well.

Tera
http://www.examiner.com/article/tera-servers-merge-down-to-three-tomorrow

Allods Online
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/07/allods-online-na-merges-down-to-one-server/

Okay, fine… small MMOs that no one has heard of might merge servers. Larger studios will not.

SWTOR also merged servers.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-19-swtor-servers-merged-many-fewer-but-much-bigger

But I guess EA are small time too.

I guess I spoke too broadly. It wasn’t my intent to suggest that NO SERVER MERGER HAS EVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF MMOS! and I guess I should have said so. What I was trying to get at was that server mergers are not palatable to the owners/developers of @@game@@.

SWTOR merged servers because the game bombed. That’s kind of my point. Major studios will be averse to merging servers because it can be taken as an indication that the game is not doing well.

Korbaal.6402:

Arkanfel.8403:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Arkanfel.8403:

Consolidating servers is something that Just Isn’t Done in MMOs, because it makes it look like the game is not performing well.

Tera
http://www.examiner.com/article/tera-servers-merge-down-to-three-tomorrow

Allods Online
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/07/allods-online-na-merges-down-to-one-server/

Okay, fine… small MMOs that no one has heard of might merge servers. Larger studios will not.

SWTOR also merged servers.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-19-swtor-servers-merged-many-fewer-but-much-bigger

But I guess EA are small time too.

That SOE company is pretty tiny too:

http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Server_Mergers_2010_%28EQ2%29

That was one of I think five merges they had since the launch of the game. And the game is going on what? 9 years now?

I agree the servers need to be merged to converge the population for 24 hour coverage.

This post is pretty hilarious coming from SoS. 24 hours into your current match-up and the score looks like this:

FA – 32.5k
TC – 39.2K
SOS – 20.2k

So it looks like TC has almost twice your score, and you decide that WvW is stupid and are going to quit playing for the week. Want to know what the score was 24 hours into your last match with CD and SBI? Here it is:

CD – 23.8k
SOS – 44.0k
SBI – 20.3k

Yeah, SOS has over double the score of third place and almost double the score of second place. Not to mention you had that match-up for 2 months and apparently found nothing wrong with it. If you’re going to quit playing every time you lose, you should transfer to SoR or JQ because you won’t be guaranteed easy wins for weeks on end with the new ranking system.

Arkanfel.8403:

It wasn’t my intent to suggest that NO SERVER MERGER HAS EVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF MMOS!

But that’s literally what you said. Then you backtracked with a new excuse when I gave you further evidence.

Arkanfel.8403:

Consolidating servers is something that Just Isn’t Done in MMOs, because it makes it look like the game is not performing well.

Arkanfel.8403:

Okay, fine… small MMOs that no one has heard of might merge servers. Larger studios will not.

Either way, it doesn’t matter. Companies will merge servers when they see an absolute need for it. It doesn’t have anything to do with public interpretation that the game is or might be bombing. Several “large companies” have done it to increase public relations with the game because it was the right thing to do.

The problem with GW2 doing it is that they would need to increase the number of allowed players on a server, which could cause further stress on the physical server.

Lol i’m loving it here at the moment, it’s actually awesome and the amount of change i’ve seen from saturday night to sunday night was amazing from our part. Can’t wait to have a reuinion with SBI or CD and show them all the new tricks we picked up.

I also know for my guild this past weekend we fielded more then we ever have.

I’m from SoS and I find the matchup a ton of fun.. If you honestly don’t like it something is wrong with you. It’s much better then the old matchup we had for months and it’s more of a challenge.

Waffler.1257:

This post is pretty hilarious coming from SoS. 24 hours into your current match-up and the score looks like this:

FA – 32.5k
TC – 39.2K
SOS – 20.2k

So it looks like TC has almost twice your score, and you decide that WvW is stupid and are going to quit playing for the week. Want to know what the score was 24 hours into your last match with CD and SBI? Here it is:

CD – 23.8k
SOS – 44.0k
SBI – 20.3k

Yeah, SOS has over double the score of third place and almost double the score of second place. Not to mention you had that match-up for 2 months and apparently found nothing wrong with it. If you’re going to quit playing every time you lose, you should transfer to SoR or JQ because you won’t be guaranteed easy wins for weeks on end with the new ranking system.

In his defence, I’ll at least say the following. The first couple of weeks where it was fresh, SBI and CD were still fairly strong (prior to losing more guilds to other worlds) and we were still licking our wounds, it wasn’t a particularly unbalanced match. After that? I don’t think anyone really thought it was a fair fight. We had been trying very, very hard to move up to T3 since then as whilst even in a lopsided match there’s some fun to be found, after the novelty wears off, it can get pretty dull for all parties involved. Case and point really has been the number of old faces I’ve seen coming out of the woodwork just since this match started. So many people had gotten so tired of it on our end, that they’d just stopped playing WvW entirely.

I don’t blame anyone for looking at the overall headline score and jumping to the conclusion that it’s terrible and unbalanced. I don’t even blame anyone for seeing a sea of red twice, if not thrice, the size of anything we’ve seen in the last couple of months and overreacting a lil’. I just don’t feel that it’s representative of the world. I’ve seen more people on our TS3 and in WvW full stop in the past day than I’ve seen in a very long time. Heck, I’m even having to get used to there being a small, but regular queue for the home BL again. Yes, a handful folks aren’t happy about the situation, but I think the sheer amount of people that have been out in WvW from us and enjoying every minute speaks for itself – the majority of us are loving this.

Things I know or think I know:
(Win = battles and overall point totals.)
1. Servers who can cover the most time zones with the most players usually win.
2. Players do not want to pay to transfer from low population servers to high population servers, in most cases.
4. EU Servers do not want to merge with NA servers to balance out the time zones.

Seems like the only thing to do is force population balance by reducing the amount of servers to the point just shy of the line that results in queues that are too long to encourage W3 play.

At the extreme ends of the server list – the populations are either too great or too small. I say whack off the ends and push the players up from the bottom and into the middle and down from the top and into the middle.

I won’t lie – I hate winning by a large margin but I hate loosing by a large margin even more. This might not be the correct or most prevalent attitude, given that a great deal of importance is usually being espoused in ‘the fight.’ For example, “Don’t worry about the point total, just put your effort into each fight and enjoy the…blah blah blah.” Either stop having an overall point total scheme or give me the ability to ignore it by hiding it from my UI. I can lie to myself every day of the week if I didn’t have to look at pie charts and point totals that just scream “LOOSER” at me.

Mismatched Populations:
I cant seem to run from point A to point B without running into a giant, twitchy, jumping, hopping, /lauging, zerg of roid raged butt pimples – aka the enemy when they win every fight, every battle, and the point total. PvP is all about rubbing it in, and even if it is minimized in this game, it’s still there. It sucks when I know I’m better than any ‘one’ of the jackwagons that just stomped me and /laughed, but there really is no way for me beat them 1v6. Do I sound bitter?

I pray for a TESO release, and perhaps God will see to it that it gets released soon so I can stop having to put up with this game which has the potential to be the greatest game ever but seems to break my heart at every turn with missed opportunities and bungled design choices. I do not PVE – I will not PVE. I only W3 – and if they don’t start doing something soon, me and my ilk will leave in droves at the first glimpse of something better.

Enjoy the profits while you can GW2 – my gut tells me the train is going to slow down to a crawl any minute now.

The one glowing problem with this new ranking system is it could just plain discourage a lot of players for even bothering to enter for the week.

As I look at the rankings now in the case of T3 where DB is blowing the other 2 out of the water, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are a lot of players on those servers that will just say “to kitten with it” and not play for the week (including DB).

Realistically, what motivation does SBI and Magg have to WvW this week when it’s probably more profitable to just PvE? What motivation does DB have to be out on the battlefield if it’s a baron wasteland because possibly the other 2 servers are nowhere to be found?

Yeah i understand that you guys CANNOT separate the fights and the ranking system in your minds.

The fights, cool fun learn stuff ect, i played in t1 forever I know how to zerg vs. zerg. I paid 20 dollars to transfer to a stable tier 4 server, where we didn’t have to stack our entire server population on a dime in order to have a meaningful effect in WvW (not my cup of tea, hence why i left SoR.)

But by even going out and showing ‘spirit’ and earning ‘respect’ (intangible) we’re earning rank at an alarming pace, and putting ourselves in line to get into an even more mismatched shuffle next week.

I’m not against trying and fighting and playing for the battle, but I don’t get why people don’t realize a system where you jump into a mismatched shuffle, lose by a wide margin and still gain rank and then get placed against harder opponents because you ‘won-lost’ the last match? Really?

Also for those of you claiming we won by wide-margins every week, that was only due to our oceanic time zone, it was a tight match-up during NA hours, with pretty even battles and PPT.

akitten.8230:

Also for those of you claiming we won by wide-margins every week, that was only due to our oceanic time zone, it was a tight match-up during NA hours, with pretty even battles and PPT.

And now that it’s actually a reasonably tight match-up for us Oceanics, rather than the face-roll we’ve had to put up with for the past few months, you’re in here whining about it?

Put up with it. We’ve put up with the reverse for far longer than a week.

The roll was random, the most likely match up for SoS will be t3 next week, because of how well the server is doing against stronger opponents. I don’t think anyone should kitten this system until the math actually evens out a bit. Like people said, a small tweak to how much the roll effects your placement and this is golden. Being in that situation must be a blast! Losing against stronger opponents doesn’t mean anything but that you have exciting fights everywhere. This system is literally making the points, and whether you win or lose, not matter as much anymore. May I direct people to this thread again-someone simulated matchups with the new system and old ratings.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/New-matchup-system-official-info/page/8#post2091419

Jayne.9251:

Korbaal.6402:

Arkanfel.8403:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Arkanfel.8403:

Consolidating servers is something that Just Isn’t Done in MMOs, because it makes it look like the game is not performing well.

Tera
http://www.examiner.com/article/tera-servers-merge-down-to-three-tomorrow

Allods Online
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/07/allods-online-na-merges-down-to-one-server/

Okay, fine… small MMOs that no one has heard of might merge servers. Larger studios will not.

SWTOR also merged servers.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-19-swtor-servers-merged-many-fewer-but-much-bigger

But I guess EA are small time too.

That SOE company is pretty tiny too:

http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Server_Mergers_2010_%28EQ2%29

That was one of I think five merges they had since the launch of the game. And the game is going on what? 9 years now?

not to mention the server merges of EQ1… which is ALSO still going.

I’ve said it before and ill say it again.

REMOVE the cumulative score display ingame.

Will help alot with morale issues.

akitten.8230:

I wouldn’t mind the NA servers being shuffled into the EU servers, but there are just a lot more NA servers to absorb the EU population, but that’s sidetracking the conversation from my point;

Trying really hard and still losing but by a narrower (but still mile-wide gap) is going to be rewarded with you being put into a more unbalanced match-up. I’m all for giving it my 100% and everything, but at the end of the day being a try-hard isn’t worth facing JQ as a t4 server.

Being from SoR and having played JQ a lot, I find it funny that JQ are who you fear. And ok, so you didn’t think to say SoR, but hell, BG are by far a harder fight than JQ. JQ would be a nice, casual challenge for anyone to face.

akitten.8230:

What kind of motivation should I have for telling my guild to get into WvW this week?

Learn, improve, move up the rankings. Same thing we do every night, Pinky.

akitten.8230:

due to the tier 2 servers we’re facing, any effort put out by us will raise our rating and give us more of a chance to potentially fight in tier 1 where we’d get our spit stuffed in even more?

You’ll have just as much chance as fighting down-tier servers as up-tier, and of losing ranking to them by not winning by enough. It’ll even out, you’ll end up where you should be.

You’re losing 70k to 40k and you’re quitting? Does Sea of Sorrows even need you if you’re going to be the first one to quit 3 days into a matchout that isn’t even a blowout?

“Hey guys, it’s impossible. I know we’re earning +200 points now but let’s all just quit and sit on our butts for a week”

Some people are taking a week off, their choice. I have read their reasons and hope they return refreshed. For myself, I agree with this RNG ratings system and would laugh if we drew BG, SoR or JQ. Then get on with playing the game.

I am a SoS player, I have increased my WvWvW hours this weekend and will likely play more every day this match. It does not matter who we are placed against, I enjoy WvWvW because humans are less predictable than NPCs.

Good luck all .

Ross Biddle.2367:

akitten.8230:

I wouldn’t mind the NA servers being shuffled into the EU servers, but there are just a lot more NA servers to absorb the EU population, but that’s sidetracking the conversation from my point;

Trying really hard and still losing but by a narrower (but still mile-wide gap) is going to be rewarded with you being put into a more unbalanced match-up. I’m all for giving it my 100% and everything, but at the end of the day being a try-hard isn’t worth facing JQ as a t4 server.

Being from SoR and having played JQ a lot, I find it funny that JQ are who you fear. And ok, so you didn’t think to say SoR, but hell, BG are by far a harder fight than JQ. JQ would be a nice, casual challenge for anyone to face.

A T1 server is a T1 server. A FULL server at that. Surely you must be joking. Surely.

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Ross Biddle.2367:

akitten.8230:

I wouldn’t mind the NA servers being shuffled into the EU servers, but there are just a lot more NA servers to absorb the EU population, but that’s sidetracking the conversation from my point;

Trying really hard and still losing but by a narrower (but still mile-wide gap) is going to be rewarded with you being put into a more unbalanced match-up. I’m all for giving it my 100% and everything, but at the end of the day being a try-hard isn’t worth facing JQ as a t4 server.

Being from SoR and having played JQ a lot, I find it funny that JQ are who you fear. And ok, so you didn’t think to say SoR, but hell, BG are by far a harder fight than JQ. JQ would be a nice, casual challenge for anyone to face.

A T1 server is a T1 server. A FULL server at that. Surely you must be joking. Surely.

People in tier 1 are crazy.

styx.7294:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Ross Biddle.2367:

akitten.8230:

I wouldn’t mind the NA servers being shuffled into the EU servers, but there are just a lot more NA servers to absorb the EU population, but that’s sidetracking the conversation from my point;

Trying really hard and still losing but by a narrower (but still mile-wide gap) is going to be rewarded with you being put into a more unbalanced match-up. I’m all for giving it my 100% and everything, but at the end of the day being a try-hard isn’t worth facing JQ as a t4 server.

Being from SoR and having played JQ a lot, I find it funny that JQ are who you fear. And ok, so you didn’t think to say SoR, but hell, BG are by far a harder fight than JQ. JQ would be a nice, casual challenge for anyone to face.

A T1 server is a T1 server. A FULL server at that. Surely you must be joking. Surely.

People in tier 1 are crazy.

Or just more of SoRs world famous forum warriors. I wont lie, the idea of JQvTCvFA sounds interesting and I’d like to see how that ends up, but any server other than the current T1 or TC, FA or DB would just be a curb stomp.

Guildchat is going through a little bit of a depressed period, but we’re all a little let down (for the record, we all thoroughly recognize that SBI is worse off). However, he’s in the minority. This match is a wake-up call from 6+ weeks of screwing around in WvW and letting our night crew clean up our messes.

I think the biggest thing sticking in my craw is CD’s performance against two T3 servers (it’s clear that T4 is not as far from T3 as it was when DB was there). I really wanted to face Maguuma and it’s clear that if they had just shifted servers for one week alone that everyone in NA kittens would have gotten the fight they wanted. T5,T4, and T3 would have been epic battles!

As for SoS’s match, as much as I hate losing; I’m having fun. We aren’t wasting money upgrading crap that will flip eventually, and some of the stunts we’ve pulled against TC have been awesome!

Given that TC are simply throwing numbers at us, and FA daytime is underwhelming, I think we’ve put in a good showing and should continue to do so.

styx.7294:

You’re losing 70k to 40k and you’re quitting? Does Sea of Sorrows even need you if you’re going to be the first one to quit 3 days into a matchout that isn’t even a blowout?

“Hey guys, it’s impossible. I know we’re earning +200 points now but let’s all just quit and sit on our butts for a week”

Actually he quit hours into the matchup :P

Seigfried.5938:

styx.7294:

You’re losing 70k to 40k and you’re quitting? Does Sea of Sorrows even need you if you’re going to be the first one to quit 3 days into a matchout that isn’t even a blowout?

“Hey guys, it’s impossible. I know we’re earning +200 points now but let’s all just quit and sit on our butts for a week”

Actually he quit hours into the matchup :P

That’s just embarrassing. I just checked out mos and you guys are earning +440.

You checked at pretty much exactly the right time, then, I think that was our peak :p

Highest actual tick was +420. Everyone was yelling in /map when we hit +400. Was pretty awesome.

pejot.4806:

Oh yes, typical thinking. And doing the opposite – merging NA servers into EU didn’t even cross your mind.
Also, I don’t want to increase my latence, please leave my server alone.

Because the EU and NA servers aren’t located right next to each other at all.

styx.7294:

Seigfried.5938:

styx.7294:

You’re losing 70k to 40k and you’re quitting? Does Sea of Sorrows even need you if you’re going to be the first one to quit 3 days into a matchout that isn’t even a blowout?

“Hey guys, it’s impossible. I know we’re earning +200 points now but let’s all just quit and sit on our butts for a week”

Actually he quit hours into the matchup :P

That’s just embarrassing. I just checked out mos and you guys are earning +440.

Yea that was the strength of our oceanics. If we could match our NA with oceanics, we would easily be a worthy opponent in tier 2.

I’m actually very impressed with SoS. They’re doing so well against two beast servers that they’re actually gaining tons of rating. TC and FA are actually losing rating, which means SoS wasn’t expected to do this well at all.

Runehand.9368:

Because the EU and NA servers aren’t located right next to each other at all.

Oh well, if Germany and US somehow became neighbours, then yes

pejot.4806:

Runehand.9368:

Because the EU and NA servers aren’t located right next to each other at all.

Oh well, if Germany and US somehow became neighbours, then yes

A little birdy told me EU and US servers are all located in the US. Perhaps thats what he meant.

Can someone clarify this please? On that note. I live in the UK and since transfering to US servers my game runs more smoothly.

Korbaal.6402:

pejot.4806:

Runehand.9368:

Because the EU and NA servers aren’t located right next to each other at all.

Oh well, if Germany and US somehow became neighbours, then yes

A little birdy told me EU and US servers are all located in the US. Perhaps thats what he meant.

Can someone clarify this please? On that note. I live in the UK and since transfering to US servers my game runs more smoothly.

+1 to this. I’ve heard from everyone that has transfered to US servers from EU that there is no lag.

Seigfried.5938:

styx.7294:

Seigfried.5938:

styx.7294:

You’re losing 70k to 40k and you’re quitting? Does Sea of Sorrows even need you if you’re going to be the first one to quit 3 days into a matchout that isn’t even a blowout?

“Hey guys, it’s impossible. I know we’re earning +200 points now but let’s all just quit and sit on our butts for a week”

Actually he quit hours into the matchup :P

That’s just embarrassing. I just checked out mos and you guys are earning +440.

Yea that was the strength of our oceanics. If we could match our NA with oceanics, we would easily be a worthy opponent in tier 2.

That’s exactly what DB just did, and after this week you’ll be in the exact same position to do it too – top of T3.

NA servers with strong SEA/Oceanic are unicorns, and a great destination for NA/EU guilds looking to transfer. The only problem is, are there any NA/EU guilds left to transfer to you? DB might have just gotten the last big wave.

akitten.8230:

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Ahaha… no.

Next stupid idea, ho!

Parthis.2091:

akitten.8230:

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Ahaha… no.

Next stupid idea, ho!

Out of curiosity, why would that be a bad thing? Coverage wars aren’t really any fun for anyone. You can’t fight against someone who isn’t there when you play.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Parthis.2091:

akitten.8230:

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Ahaha… no.

Next stupid idea, ho!

Out of curiosity, why would that be a bad thing? Coverage wars aren’t really any fun for anyone. You can’t fight against someone who isn’t there when you play.

Seems like the suggestion is always to dissolve EU and make them part of NA. It’s so self-centered, haha. I dunno, I guess the world revolves around my timezone.

That aside, you can’t merge the servers ‘cause their populations are bigger than WvW population. And there’s no reason to think that it would solve any coverage problems. Just like NA servers don’t all have their strongest time in NA, EU servers don’t all have their strongest time in EU.

styx.7294:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Parthis.2091:

akitten.8230:

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Ahaha… no.

Next stupid idea, ho!

Out of curiosity, why would that be a bad thing? Coverage wars aren’t really any fun for anyone. You can’t fight against someone who isn’t there when you play.

Seems like the suggestion is always to dissolve EU and make them part of NA. It’s so self-centered, haha. I dunno, I guess the world revolves around my timezone.

That aside, you can’t merge the servers ‘cause their populations are bigger than WvW population. And there’s no reason to think that it would solve any coverage problems. Just like NA servers don’t all have their strongest time in NA, EU servers don’t all have their strongest time in EU.

Noo yeah, I wouldn’t want to merge them entirely. But maybe some kind of workaround for WvW. So like one EU server gets matched up with an NA server for WvW population or something. Iono just brainstorming, it would just be nice if we weren’t fighting proxy wars.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

styx.7294:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Parthis.2091:

akitten.8230:

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Ahaha… no.

Next stupid idea, ho!

Out of curiosity, why would that be a bad thing? Coverage wars aren’t really any fun for anyone. You can’t fight against someone who isn’t there when you play.

Seems like the suggestion is always to dissolve EU and make them part of NA. It’s so self-centered, haha. I dunno, I guess the world revolves around my timezone.

That aside, you can’t merge the servers ‘cause their populations are bigger than WvW population. And there’s no reason to think that it would solve any coverage problems. Just like NA servers don’t all have their strongest time in NA, EU servers don’t all have their strongest time in EU.

Noo yeah, I wouldn’t want to merge them entirely. But maybe some kind of workaround for WvW. So like one EU server gets matched up with an NA server for WvW population or something. Iono just brainstorming, it would just be nice if we weren’t fighting proxy wars.

I always got the impression that your server was pretty extreme, with very high coverage durin NA and very low otherwise. Is that what it’s like?

styx.7294:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

styx.7294:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Parthis.2091:

akitten.8230:

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Ahaha… no.

Next stupid idea, ho!

Out of curiosity, why would that be a bad thing? Coverage wars aren’t really any fun for anyone. You can’t fight against someone who isn’t there when you play.

Seems like the suggestion is always to dissolve EU and make them part of NA. It’s so self-centered, haha. I dunno, I guess the world revolves around my timezone.

That aside, you can’t merge the servers ‘cause their populations are bigger than WvW population. And there’s no reason to think that it would solve any coverage problems. Just like NA servers don’t all have their strongest time in NA, EU servers don’t all have their strongest time in EU.

Noo yeah, I wouldn’t want to merge them entirely. But maybe some kind of workaround for WvW. So like one EU server gets matched up with an NA server for WvW population or something. Iono just brainstorming, it would just be nice if we weren’t fighting proxy wars.

I always got the impression that your server was pretty extreme, with very high coverage durin NA and very low otherwise. Is that what it’s like?

Yeah, weekends and NA primetime are our strongsuits. We don’t have much night/day coverage.

I wish people would stop threatening us with the prospect of a bandwagon wave hitting SoS.

We love our WvW, but we have no desire to go to the black pit that T1 has become. We’d like a few more NA guilds to join to make the NA hours a little more balanced; and we wouldn’t turn around any EU or SEA folks who wanted to come to give us some padding.

Ideally, our matchup would be right here. Give us the ability to do something about those roving +60 zergs and we could do this match ad infinitum.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Arkanfel.8403:

It wasn’t my intent to suggest that NO SERVER MERGER HAS EVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF MMOS!

But that’s literally what you said. Then you backtracked with a new excuse when I gave you further evidence.

Arkanfel.8403:

Consolidating servers is something that Just Isn’t Done in MMOs, because it makes it look like the game is not performing well.

Arkanfel.8403:

Okay, fine… small MMOs that no one has heard of might merge servers. Larger studios will not.

Either way, it doesn’t matter. Companies will merge servers when they see an absolute need for it. It doesn’t have anything to do with public interpretation that the game is or might be bombing. Several “large companies” have done it to increase public relations with the game because it was the right thing to do.

The problem with GW2 doing it is that they would need to increase the number of allowed players on a server, which could cause further stress on the physical server.

Covered that breh. The first words of my last post were “I guess I spoke too broadly,” but you adroitly omitted that part. You should consider a career in politics.

I’m from the EU, I mainly play on Elona Reach but I also played with some friends from other games on NA Servers. And I most definitively don’t want the servers to merge.
It’s not about lag, it’s about the fact that the current system works way way way better for EU servers than it does for NA servers.
Merging both servers to get a better time coverage for WvW would make thinks better for NA players but it would also make things worse for us EU players. Yes, we have night capping too, but it’s not on the same scale as it is on NA servers. In the EU a server can defend some towers, bay or hill with those players that work the evening and night shift and can only play during off hours. It’s not a even fight 24/7, compared to what is going on on some NA servers it’s almost perfect.
So no, merging EU and NA servers is nothing I want to see, ever.

nachtnebel.9168:

I’m from the EU, I mainly play on Elona Reach but I also played with some friends from other games on NA Servers. And I most definitively don’t want the servers to merge.
It’s not about lag, it’s about the fact that the current system works way way way better for EU servers than it does for NA servers.
Merging both servers to get a better time coverage for WvW would make thinks better for NA players but it would also make things worse for us EU players. Yes, we have night capping too, but it’s not on the same scale as it is on NA servers. In the EU a server can defend some towers, bay or hill with those players that work the evening and night shift and can only play during off hours. It’s not a even fight 24/7, compared to what is going on on some NA servers it’s almost perfect.
So no, merging EU and NA servers is nothing I want to see, ever.

Nightcapping wouldn’t exist if there was a full server of EU and NA players playing. The only real issue with this would be population. They would need to upgrade their servers before doing something like this.

I think one of the biggest reasons why eu doesnt want to.merge with na is co of na’ over obsession with coverage and winning rather than good fights.

Having moved so sor from deso. I noticed this immediately. People in eu dont really bother. About score and ppt and its exact opposite in na

My whole guild since moving to na has never complainted about lag.. I myself play from dubai.and can hardly tell the difference in lag.

Arkanfel.8403:

I omitted it because it doesn’t matter whether you spoke broadly or not. You were presented with new information on two separate occasions yet continually attempted to make inaccurate assumptions in an attempt to save face.

Despite that, I offered you an argument citing resources and information, but instead being able to do the same, or defending your statement, you try to insult me. Good job. Perhaps your should take your own advice.

Arkanfel.8403:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Arkanfel.8403:

It wasn’t my intent to suggest that NO SERVER MERGER HAS EVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF MMOS!

But that’s literally what you said. Then you backtracked with a new excuse when I gave you further evidence.

Arkanfel.8403:

Consolidating servers is something that Just Isn’t Done in MMOs, because it makes it look like the game is not performing well.

Arkanfel.8403:

Okay, fine… small MMOs that no one has heard of might merge servers. Larger studios will not.

Either way, it doesn’t matter. Companies will merge servers when they see an absolute need for it. It doesn’t have anything to do with public interpretation that the game is or might be bombing. Several “large companies” have done it to increase public relations with the game because it was the right thing to do.

The problem with GW2 doing it is that they would need to increase the number of allowed players on a server, which could cause further stress on the physical server.

Covered that breh. The first words of my last post were “I guess I spoke too broadly,” but you adroitly omitted that part. You should consider a career in politics.

No mate I think you should be the one going in to politics if you think that ‘spoke too broadly’ covers the fact that you made a categorically incorrect statement in an emphatic manner.

timidobserver.7925:

Nightcapping wouldn’t exist if there was a full server of EU and NA players playing. The only real issue with this would be population. They would need to upgrade their servers before doing something like this.

Whether nightcapping would exist or not is not the point. The point is that, besides some minor nightcapping issues, EU servers are totally fine. From our side there is no need to merge with NA servers, not at all.
And yes, nightcapping would exist just as it does now on NA servers, mixing in EU population wouldn’t change that. Especially since the more active EU communities, which are currently the French and German speaking players, would just concentrate on a few servers and ignore the rest, just as it is now. You would get a few servers with full 24/7 coverage but for the majority of NA servers the situation wouldn’t change much.
And even if it all would go well, you still could split up some great and well organized EU communities just to fix almost NA exlusive issues.

No, let us EU players alone, we (or at least most of us) don’t want to be merged with NA servers. We have very fun fight in almost every bracket, only minor nightcapping issues and well organized communities that don’t want to be shattert just because some NA players have issues with fighting the same servers multiple times, nightcapping or whatsoever.

Well they need to close www every night. That would stop night capping. Some server always have more players who play at night and other servers need to counter it which leads vicious circle.

Junkpile.7439:

Well they need to close www every night. That would stop night capping. Some server always have more players who play at night and other servers need to counter it which leads vicious circle.

But there is no night time, not at all. Earth is a rotating sphere. Only players can deal with nightcapping and the only way to so for them is to accept it.

akitten.8230:

I’m Commander Guildchat from Sea of Sorrows server.

What kind of motivation should I have for telling my guild to get into WvW this week?

due to the tier 2 servers we’re facing, any effort put out by us will raise our rating and give us more of a chance to potentially fight in tier 1 where we’d get our spit stuffed in even more? A constant losing cycle doesn’t seem like what we should be striving for.

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Talk about a fair weather commander!

Sheesh

It’s a good thing the REST of SOS actually has some balls and wants to fight. You should be ashamed of being so cowardly.