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Posted by: afk.8230

afk.8230

I’m Commander Guildchat from Sea of Sorrows server.

What kind of motivation should I have for telling my guild to get into WvW this week?

due to the tier 2 servers we’re facing, any effort put out by us will raise our rating and give us more of a chance to potentially fight in tier 1 where we’d get our spit stuffed in even more? A constant losing cycle doesn’t seem like what we should be striving for.

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

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Posted by: Cradorell.3941

Cradorell.3941

Sorry but i know most of the top EU guilds wont want that as its no challenge over there in terms of open field fights!

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Posted by: pejot.4806

pejot.4806

Oh yes, typical thinking. And doing the opposite – merging NA servers into EU didn’t even cross your mind.
Also, I don’t want to increase my latence, please leave my server alone.

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Posted by: afk.8230

afk.8230

I wouldn’t mind the NA servers being shuffled into the EU servers, but there are just a lot more NA servers to absorb the EU population, but that’s sidetracking the conversation from my point;

Trying really hard and still losing but by a narrower (but still mile-wide gap) is going to be rewarded with you being put into a more unbalanced match-up. I’m all for giving it my 100% and everything, but at the end of the day being a try-hard isn’t worth facing JQ as a t4 server.

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Posted by: ykyk.2740

ykyk.2740

I’m Commander Guildchat from Sea of Sorrows server.

What kind of motivation should I have for telling my guild to get into WvW this week?

due to the tier 2 servers we’re facing, any effort put out by us will raise our rating and give us more of a chance to potentially fight in tier 1 where we’d get our spit stuffed in even more? A constant losing cycle doesn’t seem like what we should be striving for.

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Your server is fresh off from what seems like a several month-long winning streak with overwhelming scorelines in the same tier. I’m given to understand that many of your server mates are relishing the opportunity to face stiffer competition, even though coverage alone ensures that SoS will likely lose the matchup. SoS gaining rating now even as they are losing means the system is working – SoS is too strong for your old place in tier 4, but could not leave it with the old system. In the long run SoS will find itself placed most frequently in the “tier 3” bracket which will give you guys much better fights than what you had against CD and SBI for the past few months.

Just FYI, the SoS force sent to TCBL on reset were outmanned from the start and locked in their corner for hours but never gave up pushing and trying to find openings – seems like your server might not need people like you if this is how you are thinking about the matchup.

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

Dissolve the EU servers and merge them with NA ?Are you nuts…..Yeah go take that break,you def need it.I will not play on NA servers,ever..and if im being forced.. its bye bye.

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Posted by: Shanks.8793

Shanks.8793

It could be a terrible idea but Idk why the EU players are feeling offended, would it be better if he said merge the NA with the EU servers? it’s the same thing. And we do have challenging guilds in terms of open fields fights.

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Posted by: Shanks.8793

Shanks.8793

And as for this match-up, I think it’s a great opportunity to learn a thing or two from the two servers we are facing since we know we will face new opponents next week.

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Posted by: Xirin.8593

Xirin.8593

I wouldn’t mind the NA servers being shuffled into the EU servers, but there are just a lot more NA servers to absorb the EU population, but that’s sidetracking the conversation from my point;

There are actually more EU servers than NA servers.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World#List_of_worlds

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Posted by: afk.8230

afk.8230

ok this thread is about EU vs NA servers now, post memes too plz.

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Posted by: Jski.6180

Jski.6180

Why do we need to know what your doing are you some one of any importance? I am going to get some Tea brb say 1 min so i am not going to play GW2 for at least 1 min so i am taking a 1 min brake off from GW2 just though you would like to know. This is not tweeter please do not treat it as such no one needs to know what your doing every sec of your life from the point of view of GW2.

Also FA and TC are not T2 worlds lol. TC has number all the time but they can be out played FA has number only at very set times we have big gaps but we often make up for it with great team work and very good commanders.

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Guild : OBEY (The Legacy) I call it Obay , TLC (WvW) , UNIV (other)
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Posted by: Sovereign.1093

Sovereign.1093

can’t win all the time. Just keep foghting. Got no money? Go do dungeons to gear your hero and buy sieges and upgrades

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

I’m Commander Guildchat from Sea of Sorrows server.

What kind of motivation should I have for telling my guild to get into WvW this week?

due to the tier 2 servers we’re facing, any effort put out by us will raise our rating and give us more of a chance to potentially fight in tier 1 where we’d get our spit stuffed in even more? A constant losing cycle doesn’t seem like what we should be striving for.

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Fighting against the odds sucks don’t it..

SBI here..

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Posted by: Loyo.8526

Loyo.8526

I’m Commander Guildchat from Sea of Sorrows server.

What kind of motivation should I have for telling my guild to get into WvW this week?

due to the tier 2 servers we’re facing, any effort put out by us will raise our rating and give us more of a chance to potentially fight in tier 1 where we’d get our spit stuffed in even more? A constant losing cycle doesn’t seem like what we should be striving for.

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Fighting against the odds sucks don’t it..

SBI here..

But fighting against pushovers is worse. Im sorry, but I rather be on the side against the odds than on top. Not saying anything bad about HoD or ET, but ET has had a hard time with our server months before and HoD the weeks after we left. I feel bad fighting them more than anything because its too the point that EB isn’t even something they see.

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Posted by: afk.8230

afk.8230

that was one really long sentence jski

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Posted by: Seigfried.5938

Seigfried.5938

I’m Commander Guildchat from Sea of Sorrows server.

What kind of motivation should I have for telling my guild to get into WvW this week?

due to the tier 2 servers we’re facing, any effort put out by us will raise our rating and give us more of a chance to potentially fight in tier 1 where we’d get our spit stuffed in even more? A constant losing cycle doesn’t seem like what we should be striving for.

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Fighting against the odds sucks don’t it..

SBI here..

I was just going to say that. The rest of SoS is having a blast. Rarely do we see ques on our borderland, but this is one such time. TC is outmanned on our map and we are still getting wiped! This just couldn’t get any better. I am not being sarcastic. Fighting every week knowing your side is going to win by 80k became too stale. For the first time since we dropped to tier 4 we are being challenged. Thank you TC and FA for showing us how the pros do it.

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Posted by: afk.8230

afk.8230

you guys are still looking at things from the perspective of the fights and not the game ranking mechanic, separate the two in your mind and you’ll see how truly dumb it is.

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Posted by: style.6173

style.6173

I’m Commander Guildchat from Sea of Sorrows server.

What kind of motivation should I have for telling my guild to get into WvW this week?

due to the tier 2 servers we’re facing, any effort put out by us will raise our rating and give us more of a chance to potentially fight in tier 1 where we’d get our spit stuffed in even more? A constant losing cycle doesn’t seem like what we should be striving for.

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

I remember SoS as always fighting to the death. I hope the remaining guilds still feel that way. This is an opportunity to show your server is back and then it is better than tier 4.

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Posted by: katniss.6735

katniss.6735

Choosing not to play WvW is the most logical thing one can do right now.

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Posted by: ghtchill.7613

ghtchill.7613

SoS isn’t doing too badly. It could be worse…look at Maguuma v Dragonbrand!

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Posted by: dwahvel.7356

dwahvel.7356

You should play for the fights over ppt/wins. Seriously wins mean nothing, the fun factor is always the competition when guilds are battling other guilds.
I play on SoR and trust me when I say the majority of our wvwers would rather go back to being a 2nd/3rd place finisher then winning in t1. Ever since we made the top spot our competition went down and so did the fun factor. Don’t worry what will happen next week it’s beyond ur control, just kick kitten and take names whenever ur able to play.

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Posted by: Arkanfel.8403

Arkanfel.8403

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

I agree with this, but it will never happen in a million years. Consolidating servers is something that Just Isn’t Done in MMOs, because it makes it look like the game is not performing well.

Still, it’d be nice to see a studio say “you know what, we care more about the community than a false projection of prosperity” just once. At least for WvW purposes, there should be way fewer servers, possibly only half or a third as many as there are now.

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Posted by: scootshoot.6583

scootshoot.6583

As dwahvel already mentioned, if you are a highly respected well known commander on your server, form a large group of trusted and skilled players (if the wvw players respect and know your reputation on the battlefield you should have zero difficulty finding followers) and play for the fights and work on your tactics for future matches.

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Posted by: GuardianOMS.8067

GuardianOMS.8067

Consolidating servers is something that Just Isn’t Done in MMOs, because it makes it look like the game is not performing well.

Tera
http://www.examiner.com/article/tera-servers-merge-down-to-three-tomorrow

Allods Online
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/07/allods-online-na-merges-down-to-one-server/

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Posted by: Sirendor.1394

Sirendor.1394

I don’t get why they split NA and EU in the first place. The only reason seems to be difference in timezone, but generally I like NA players just as much as EU players.

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Posted by: Johje Holan.4607

Johje Holan.4607

SoS isn’t doing too badly. It could be worse…look at Maguuma v Dragonbrand!

If you want to pity anyone, think about SBI: rank 13 up against rank 5 and rank 7. Maguuma alone can crush SBI and DB can thrash Maguuma.

Ah, but can DB thrash both Mag and SBI at the same time? I wish I had a screenshot but the story on their BL at reset says not.

(And before anyone posts kitten of things now, I’m not talking about in score. Of course they’re going to thrash us in score, they have 24/7 coverage. I’m talking about in having good fights because that’s whakittens all about.)

  • Wha? I did not say one bad word in this post.

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Posted by: Seigfried.5938

Seigfried.5938

I feel so sad for SBI. Just when they were going to move down to tier 5, which they were looking forward to, they get matched up against a monster server like DB which has pro guilds from JQ.

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Posted by: pejot.4806

pejot.4806

I don’t get why they split NA and EU in the first place. The only reason seems to be difference in timezone, but generally I like NA players just as much as EU players.

It is because NA servers are located in US and EU are in Germany. That way we all can have decent latency.

It could be worse…look at Maguuma v Dragonbrand!

Look at RoF-FoW-Vabbi ^^

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Posted by: Piogre.2164

Piogre.2164

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Posted by: TogaParty.1768

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I’m Commander Guildchat from Sea of Sorrows server.
due to the tier 2 servers we’re facing, any effort put out by us will raise our rating and give us more of a chance to potentially fight in tier 1 where we’d get our spit stuffed in even more? A constant losing cycle doesn’t seem like what we should be striving for.

It is true that gaining rating that is added to your True Rating will potentially make it more probable you’ll be matched with higher tier servers next week. However the actual probability of that happening is low due to the nature of RNG randomization variance used for the weekly Matchup Rating. Most likely you’ll be matched up against similar True Rating opponents next week regardless as the True Rating gain/loss is not substantial enough to move rating that dramatically but again that depends on the RNG randomization roll. You just got a tough RNG outcome this week.

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Posted by: Ghedoriah.4290

Ghedoriah.4290

I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again. We’re going to lose. Pretty badly, too. But we’re still going to go out there and fight. I know this might sound rude to those who think that spamming 1 is a tactic, but if you can’t beat your opponent even when you have equal or greater numbers, analyse why you didn’t beat them and learn from it. Learn and adapt so you’re playing, strategising and communicating better until you can beat your opponent. I know for a lot of SoS this is more a question of shaking off the rust and dropping those charming, sloppy tactics we’ve all picked up. However, by and large, if you’re losing against similar numbers, it’s generally not because of anything to do with them. It’s because you can be better as a player and a member or commander of your team.

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Posted by: Arkanfel.8403

Arkanfel.8403

Consolidating servers is something that Just Isn’t Done in MMOs, because it makes it look like the game is not performing well.

Tera
http://www.examiner.com/article/tera-servers-merge-down-to-three-tomorrow

Allods Online
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/07/allods-online-na-merges-down-to-one-server/

Okay, fine… small MMOs that no one has heard of might merge servers. Larger studios will not.

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Posted by: Seigfried.5938

Seigfried.5938

Gandara → SoS → BG → Gandara → SFR

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Posted by: grifflyman.8102

grifflyman.8102

Not going to lie, I play this game for the WvW, and I’m really discouraged by how Anet has handled it.

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Posted by: Jski.6180

Jski.6180

You also do not seem to understand by keeping up some what with FA SoS is getting a rank up if any thing losing to high end worlds is making your rank higher. Now because FA is not doing so well our world is losing a lot of points. You just do not seem to grasp the rank system at all or even trying to understand it.

The way it seems to be set up is that world who are high up there MUST do well that week when they are put up vs lower end worlds. Where lower end worlds do not need to do as much. So the higher you are in rank the more likely you will fall even if you do not do that badly but the lower in rank the more likely you will go up even if you do badly.

Anet has given a lot of power to low end worlds now.

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Guild : OBEY (The Legacy) I call it Obay , TLC (WvW) , UNIV (other)
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Posted by: Shiren.9532

Shiren.9532

I’m Commander Guildchat from Sea of Sorrows server.

What kind of motivation should I have for telling my guild to get into WvW this week?

due to the tier 2 servers we’re facing, any effort put out by us will raise our rating and give us more of a chance to potentially fight in tier 1 where we’d get our spit stuffed in even more? A constant losing cycle doesn’t seem like what we should be striving for.

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Your server is fresh off from what seems like a several month-long winning streak with overwhelming scorelines in the same tier. I’m given to understand that many of your server mates are relishing the opportunity to face stiffer competition, even though coverage alone ensures that SoS will likely lose the matchup. SoS gaining rating now even as they are losing means the system is working – SoS is too strong for your old place in tier 4, but could not leave it with the old system. In the long run SoS will find itself placed most frequently in the “tier 3” bracket which will give you guys much better fights than what you had against CD and SBI for the past few months.

Just FYI, the SoS force sent to TCBL on reset were outmanned from the start and locked in their corner for hours but never gave up pushing and trying to find openings – seems like your server might not need people like you if this is how you are thinking about the matchup.

SoS always has a crew that will pick an enemy BL and set up shop there regardless of whether they are outmanned or not (the personally prefer to be outmanned because they know they will die). That doesn’t mean they accomplish anything but enjoyment for themselves. They certainly aren’t playing for PPT or ranking.

Prior to the new system, the rating SoS had it placed in tier 4. With that old rating the new system placed SoS in tier 2. The new system next week now has an even higher chance of placing SoS in tier 2. It doesn’t matter what your rating is when it can skip you over an entire tier. Even with a ratings boost, who’s to say SoS won’t end up in the exact same situation next week? What about a worse one? The system isn’t working when a server that should be tier 3 but currently ranked in tier 4 gets placed in tier 2. With the random element added, it doesn’t matter what your rating is when it’s not what decides your match up any more. Gaining rating just increases the chances this situation will happen again.

When rating boosts give lower ranked servers more power to stomp others servers (like making their attacks do more damage) I will agree ArenaNet gave them more power. Currently all they got was a system which sling shots them into matches to be used as a loot piñata.

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Posted by: GuardianOMS.8067

GuardianOMS.8067

Consolidating servers is something that Just Isn’t Done in MMOs, because it makes it look like the game is not performing well.

Tera
http://www.examiner.com/article/tera-servers-merge-down-to-three-tomorrow

Allods Online
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/07/allods-online-na-merges-down-to-one-server/

Okay, fine… small MMOs that no one has heard of might merge servers. Larger studios will not.

Who is defined as “no one” what is defined as “small”?

SWTOR
http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/03/26/swtors-asia-pacific-servers-merging-with-north-american-shards/

Age of Conan
http://massively.joystiq.com/tag/age-of-conan-server-merge/

Planetside
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/22/planetside-2-server-merge/

DAOC
http://camelot.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=2227

Warhammer Online
http://kotaku.com/5168085/warhammer-online-massively-merges-servers

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Posted by: ykyk.2740

ykyk.2740

I’m Commander Guildchat from Sea of Sorrows server.

What kind of motivation should I have for telling my guild to get into WvW this week?

due to the tier 2 servers we’re facing, any effort put out by us will raise our rating and give us more of a chance to potentially fight in tier 1 where we’d get our spit stuffed in even more? A constant losing cycle doesn’t seem like what we should be striving for.

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Your server is fresh off from what seems like a several month-long winning streak with overwhelming scorelines in the same tier. I’m given to understand that many of your server mates are relishing the opportunity to face stiffer competition, even though coverage alone ensures that SoS will likely lose the matchup. SoS gaining rating now even as they are losing means the system is working – SoS is too strong for your old place in tier 4, but could not leave it with the old system. In the long run SoS will find itself placed most frequently in the “tier 3” bracket which will give you guys much better fights than what you had against CD and SBI for the past few months.

Just FYI, the SoS force sent to TCBL on reset were outmanned from the start and locked in their corner for hours but never gave up pushing and trying to find openings – seems like your server might not need people like you if this is how you are thinking about the matchup.

SoS always has a crew that will pick an enemy BL and set up shop there regardless of whether they are outmanned or not (the personally prefer to be outmanned because they know they will die). That doesn’t mean they accomplish anything but enjoyment for themselves. They certainly aren’t playing for PPT or ranking.

Prior to the new system, the rating SoS had it placed in tier 4. With that old rating the new system placed SoS in tier 2. The new system next week now has an even higher chance of placing SoS in tier 2. It doesn’t matter what your rating is when it can skip you over an entire tier. Even with a ratings boost, who’s to say SoS won’t end up in the exact same situation next week? What about a worse one? The system isn’t working when a server that should be tier 3 but currently ranked in tier 4 gets placed in tier 2. With the random element added, it doesn’t matter what your rating is when it’s not what decides your match up any more. Gaining rating just increases the chances this situation will happen again.

SoS probably had a very big “up” roll – the system is after all random, and probability kicks in. SBI has it even worse this week because it looks like they rolled an equally big up roll while DB rolled a massive “down” roll creating a terrible matchup.

What gaining rating does is increase the chances that SoS gets placed into the “tier 3” matchup in the future, which is your best chance of a good match. It is true that RNG decides to be kitten and keep rolling your server up into the heavens, but that’s part of the excitement I guess. After a few rounds of calibration to get all the servers at their right ratings, this system will more or less remove the case of tiers being stuck in endless cycles despite a clear winner every week (SoS, Ebay come to mind).

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Posted by: Ghedoriah.4290

Ghedoriah.4290

We were actually closer to the T3 worlds than we were the rest of T4 in terms of rating. Being in T2 is not a surprise to us.

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Posted by: Liquid Storm.8097

Liquid Storm.8097

Fights for Stonemist are already bad enough in terms of lag. We don’t need nor want additional latency because of the merger.

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Posted by: Rawr.5930

Rawr.5930

This is going to sound a little hollow, but for all the “small” servers in this weeks matchups.

It’s about moral victories and glicko gain.

Just a shame there isnt an indication of glicko gain ingame to help validate their efforts in the face of ridiculous odds.

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Posted by: Shiren.9532

Shiren.9532

SoS probably had a very big “up” roll – the system is after all random, and probability kicks in. SBI has it even worse this week because it looks like they rolled an equally big up roll while DB rolled a massive “down” roll creating a terrible matchup.

What gaining rating does is increase the chances that SoS gets placed into the “tier 3” matchup in the future, which is your best chance of a good match. It is true that RNG decides to be kitten and keep rolling your server up into the heavens, but that’s part of the excitement I guess. After a few rounds of calibration to get all the servers at their right ratings, this system will more or less remove the case of tiers being stuck in endless cycles despite a clear winner every week (SoS, Ebay come to mind).

Or SoS will get another big up roll and put them in tier 2 (or even 1). Maybe some tier one servers will get a down roll and end up in tier 2 with SoS. That would be a balanced week. It’s not very exciting to go from tier 4 to tier 2. If the rating changes this weekend are anything to go by, the only thing calibration will do is bring the servers closer together thus allowing for more ridiculous fluctuations. As was pointed out with SBI and DB, everyone is rolling so it’s possible to get matches with servers that rolled high with servers that rolled low.

As imbalanced as tier 4 was before this, it wasn’t as bad as what SBI and SoS are currently seeing. One up, one down would have perfectly placed both servers. Then again, I am explaining all of this to someone from a server that benefits from SoS being mismatched judging by the colour of SoS bl.

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Posted by: TogaParty.1768

TogaParty.1768

Prior to the new system, the rating SoS had it placed in tier 4. With that old rating the new system placed SoS in tier 2. The new system next week now has an even higher chance of placing SoS in tier 2. It doesn’t matter what your rating is when it can skip you over an entire tier. Even with a ratings boost, who’s to say SoS won’t end up in the exact same situation next week? What about a worse one? The system isn’t working when a server that should be tier 3 but currently ranked in tier 4 gets placed in tier 2. With the random element added, it doesn’t matter what your rating is when it’s not what decides your match up any more. Gaining rating just increases the chances this situation will happen again.

First, with this new matchup system we shouldn’t be talking about “Tier #” servers anymore as it makes more sense to discuss things based on rating rank. What you said above is true but you also need to account for how other servers are moving under this system. That’s the nature of a semi-randomized system and the trade you make instead of the previous somewhat stagnant system that trapped servers in tiers.

In the end though isn’t it all a true reflection of a server’s WvW prowess? e.g. two similar lower ranked servers get matched up against higher ranked opponents in separate groupings; one server is resilient and fights their best, the other packs it in. They both come in 3rd in their groupings but the one that fights gains more rating than the one that packs it in. Vise versa applies if you are a high ranked opponent versus lower ranked, you need to win convincingly.

I do agree that a tweak to lessen the variance of the RNG would be a good thing while also incorporating a variable where the more you’ve previously faced a server the less likely you will do so again regardless of how you are supposed to be matched.

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Posted by: LFMTotoro.7236

LFMTotoro.7236

I disagree that we SoS have it bad, but that’s just me personally not caring about points and instead enjoying the quality of the fights, and boy were the fights good in our BL.

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Posted by: Shiren.9532

Shiren.9532

I disagree that we SoS have it bad, but that’s just me personally not caring about points and instead enjoying the quality of the fights, and boy were the fights good in our BL.

Let’s hope you are saying that a week from now. Last time SoS was in a lopsided match like this we were outmanned on every map except for one. There is a good chance this week will be enough to destroy the high morale the server had built while in tier 4.

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Posted by: Ghedoriah.4290

Ghedoriah.4290

Last time we were in a match like this was against DB, where their SEA presence sometimes took us down to 0 ppt. This isn’t that bad.

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Posted by: Junkpile.7439

Junkpile.7439

If you have guild you can go www and kill stuff no matter how many players enemy have.

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Posted by: Korbaal.6402

Korbaal.6402

Consolidating servers is something that Just Isn’t Done in MMOs, because it makes it look like the game is not performing well.

Tera
http://www.examiner.com/article/tera-servers-merge-down-to-three-tomorrow

Allods Online
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/07/allods-online-na-merges-down-to-one-server/

Okay, fine… small MMOs that no one has heard of might merge servers. Larger studios will not.

SWTOR also merged servers.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-19-swtor-servers-merged-many-fewer-but-much-bigger

But I guess EA are small time too.

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Posted by: LFMTotoro.7236

LFMTotoro.7236

High morale built on stomping SBI and CD? I’ve only been back in the game for a short while, so the last time I was in a lopsided match up was when the game first launched and we were being crushed by Shiverpeaks (and DB I think?) whenever we were up against them during the 24 hour games to decide placement, yeah I’ve been away for a while. I’d also argue that the fact we’ve kept our keep in EBG for this long is pretty good. Does it mean Anet can tweak the system a little to prevent us skipping an entire tier? Definitely, but I wouldn’t describe our match to be miserable like you would SBI’s.

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Posted by: Dhampyr.2104

Dhampyr.2104

I am not being sarcastic. Fighting every week knowing your side is going to win by 80k became too stale. For the first time since we dropped to tier 4 we are being challenged. Thank you TC and FA for showing us how the pros do it.

Thanks for the shout out, appreciate it! And as for SoS, you taught me a bunch of stuff last night, usually with a spike through my head. lol

As for the matchup bring unbalanced (talking to the OP now), were you really having fun completely dominating T4? I bet most were not – coming from Kaineng originally, I have a bunch of experience with being crushed as well as completely crushing our opposition. In terms of fun and given those two choices, I’ll take the losing side any day. It’s easier to find fights. ;-)

Take your week off. Come back refreshed – but you won’t be getting any better, unlike your comrades on SoS who are showing spirit and earning tons of respect.

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