Guild Wars 2

Apparently it was initially included in wvw, but had to be removed because it was causing issues..

Maybe someday we’ll get that.

There are so many things they should do or need to do, this change is probably just buried in the pile.

X T D.6458:

Apparently it was initially included in wvw, but had to be removed because it was causing issues..

That may have been the one where everybody can see loot bags everywhere.

Anet neglecting WvW?! Never!

If it wasnt true, you could call it slander!

X T D.6458:

Apparently it was initially included in wvw, but had to be removed because it was causing issues..

It was the fact that PvE masteries are not in WvW but they should add it to WvW masteries. But they have the functionality ingame just make another WvW mastery line just for it.

Yes anet… why cant we have autoloot like the rest pve players?

I would have loved to get an answer from the staff, or even be notified that someone from the staff read that thread.

But now that it had been moved to the WvW part of the forum..

Sad part is it cannot be that difficult for the developers to use the existing mastery or create a new WvW one. Code is mostly done just needs the interface and switch.

That’s exactly what bothers me the most. To me, it means that it’s a decision and not a technical problem taking their time.

ZeZerT.4068:

That’s exactly what bothers me the most. To me, it means that it’s a decision and not a technical problem taking their time.

I dunno to me its just a reflection of the lack of resources for WvW even now when its supposedly a priority.

ZeZerT.4068:

I would have loved to get an answer from the staff, or even be notified that someone from the staff read that thread.

But now that it had been moved to the WvW part of the forum..

they gave us an answer when it was first brought up.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/The-new-auto-loot-doesen-t-work-in-WvW-Merged/first#post5679969

to sum that up. they are looking at it. (staring at the code) lol

briggah.7910:

ZeZerT.4068:

I would have loved to get an answer from the staff, or even be notified that someone from the staff read that thread.

But now that it had been moved to the WvW part of the forum..

they gave us an answer when it was first brought up.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/The-new-auto-loot-doesen-t-work-in-WvW-Merged/first#post5679969

to sum that up. they are looking at it. (staring at the code) lol

https://twitter.com/quotessimpson/status/510361164643958784

The autoloot is essentially a macro anyway, so why not let us use one for the time being to do this task?

@ArchonWing.9480 Awesome LOL

@Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582 Using a maccro in GW2 is not allowed, nobody can encourage one else using them. If you remember GW1, you may fear the Dhuum.
But, I totally agree we can use maccro when it’s in order to fill the game’s gaps..

This may have been already answered but does anet have any intention of adding autoloot to WvW? It seems like it’s the one place where autoloot should have been added.

I thought this as well. I didn’t understand their decision to not make it apply there.
The game needs more options. Buy I don’t have enough hero points anyway to do anything anyway so all that exp is wasted. So I play less now.

Tyler Bearce.3427:

We are looking at adding a way for players to earn Quickloot in WvW as well. We wanted to keep PvE progression (Masteries) separate from WvW progression (Ability Lines). However this means when a new Mastery ability is created, that might also be useful in another gamemode, it doesn’t automatically crossover.

Your post is 3 months old now. Can you please give us an update on the progress?

I bet the answer will be “soon”

I really cannot see why this would be difficult to include in WvW or why it was causing issues to begin with.

All that is needed is in the section of code that makes the loot bag appear, you place a check in before it appears to add it immediately to inventory instead of making it appear, its not hard.

I’d suggest making all WvW loot drop in (new) WvW loot bags which are affected by MF, would save much inventory space also, since even 10 slots could store 2500 of them and then you could improve the loot or adjust it easily.

Is there just 1 guy working at anet or?…. I thought they were a team – how hard could this be to fix?

They have to figure out how to make us work for it all over again and all the while invalidating all of the WvW mastery points that we’ve already worked for.

Tyler Bearce.3427:

We are looking at adding a way for players to earn Quickloot in WvW as well. We wanted to keep PvE progression (Masteries) separate from WvW progression (Ability Lines). However this means when a new Mastery ability is created, that might also be useful in another gamemode, it doesn’t automatically crossover.

Any update on this? It has been 3 months now.

Tyler Bearce.3427:

We are looking at adding a way for players to earn Quickloot in WvW as well. We wanted to keep PvE progression (Masteries) separate from WvW progression (Ability Lines). However this means when a new Mastery ability is created, that might also be useful in another gamemode, it doesn’t automatically crossover.

Earn it? Why would you make common sense game feature something to be earned?

Loot bags on the ground:
1. there’s a chance that you miss the reward you’ve earned.
2. uninteresting F-key spam when killing enemies in hectic fight.
3. there’s a chance that you press F to loot but instead activate another item (banner etc.) on your location, causing frustration to player.
4. when you get a kill using siege weapon you have to stop using the siege weapon to pick up lootbag.
5. sparkling loot bag on the ground is unnecessary drain on performance.

Loot bag on inventory:
1. convenient reward for kill that you’ve earned.
2. none of the above issues.
3. player can focus their attention fully to playing and not worrying about getting lootbags.

Since players who paid for HoT can have this prerogative available in all pve enviroment I think WvW needs also this privilege. It´s just a small change that won´t hurt anybody and won´t provide any real advantage. I am not asking for gliding all over WvW, just want to focus on fighting not if I am missing some loot from if I die battling or was too focused smashing keyboard to survive.

I think some people would even buy HoT if they don´t need to pick up loot.

Peazomanco.7259:

Since players who paid for HoT can have this prerogative available in all pve enviroment I think WvW needs also this privilege. It´s just a small change that won´t hurt anybody and won´t provide any real advantage. I am not asking for gliding all over WvW, just want to focus on fighting not if I am missing some loot from if I die battling or was too focused smashing keyboard to survive.

I think some people would even buy HoT if they don´t need to pick up loot.

I think the reason they will not implement this is they were trying to avoid adding too many advantages in WvW making it further imbalanced to no HoT players Part of the challenge in WvW is being able to pick up your bags without dying, this would give HoT players a direct advantage in battle. However, The OTHER issue is not just HoT, but a PvE issue. If you could obtain Auto loot in WvW ( maybe a reward track or something the like) rather than being forced to go PvE to do so, that would be better. WvW should be a self sustaining game mode, not forcing a player to ever step foot in PVE to be competitive.

That was what set GW1 apart from other games was being able to just PvP if you wanted to without grinding PvE. WvW should be treated the same as well, just treated as a large scale PvP self sustaining game mode if they wish to improve the population of it.

It’s because they don’t want you to just spam #1. They want you to spam “F” too. Help you with multi-tasking…

lil devils x.6071:

Peazomanco.7259:

Since players who paid for HoT can have this prerogative available in all pve enviroment I think WvW needs also this privilege. It´s just a small change that won´t hurt anybody and won´t provide any real advantage. I am not asking for gliding all over WvW, just want to focus on fighting not if I am missing some loot from if I die battling or was too focused smashing keyboard to survive.

I think some people would even buy HoT if they don´t need to pick up loot.

I think the reason they will not implement this is they were trying to avoid adding too many advantages in WvW making it further imbalanced to no HoT players Part of the challenge in WvW is being able to pick up your bags without dying, this would give HoT players a direct advantage in battle. However, The OTHER issue is not just HoT, but a PvE issue. If you could obtain Auto loot in WvW ( maybe a reward track or something the like) rather than being forced to go PvE to do so, that would be better. WvW should be a self sustaining game mode, not forcing a player to ever step foot in PVE to be competitive.

That was what set GW1 apart from other games was being able to just PvP if you wanted to without grinding PvE. WvW should be treated the same as well, just treated as a large scale PvP self sustaining game mode if they wish to improve the population of it.

That reasoning is consistent with…. zero aspects of HoT.

Guild hall grinds, specialization grinds that are far stronger than base classes, ascended grinds, grinds for stats only available in pve content.

But but, not letting people have a QoL feature in light of all of this ensures a level playing field. I really weep for humanity if anyone can say that with a straight face and sleep soundly at night. Nor do I conflate skill with having to fight with a bad interface.

It has always been the case that playing PvE will give an advantage entering WvW; not it’s even more pronounced.

If that is legitimately a train of thought, it needs to be scrapped because there is 0 relation to it and reality.

Just put autoloot in WvW already. Either make it baseline so everyone has it, or so that WvW Xp contributes to Tyria masteries. Everything else is just an exercise in being an apologist.

Are you trying to annoy me on purpose?

I remember when lootbags landed whereever the enemy died, whether it was right next to you or on the walls.

Fixing one problem isn’t an excuse to leave another one alone.

Because it’s so low down the list of priorities. Currently it’s just below ‘fix Julie Nobrow’s left ear, it’s a micron off from left to right’.

There have been other threads about this: was going to be enabled for wvw, but then they decided they couldn’t be bothered so a horse rider or two were brought in to justify this.

Ovalkvadratcylinder.9365:

I remember when lootbags landed whereever the enemy died, whether it was right next to you or on the walls.

Or halfway up in the air justttt out of reach, no matter how high you leapt and spammed F.

keybind auto-loot to shift.. easier to spam shift with your pinkie. this way you can still use your other fingers to spam your skills. i got much better at skill spamming since i changed mine to shift key :P

Doesnt mastery solve this problem?

nicknamenick.2437:

Doesnt mastery solve this problem?

Masteries are for pve only. Last I recall they were looking at a way to add auto loot into wvw.. My guess is it will come with the overhaul as if they try to make any changes to current wvw it will probably break something else. Took them 4 months to remove drakes that were contesting green keep..

briggah.7910:

nicknamenick.2437:

Doesnt mastery solve this problem?

Masteries are for pve only…

kitten … that was my only need for that mastery line and it doesnt work in wvw? that sucks.. well good to know!

Exactly. It’s stupid.

What’s even worse is it’s on the last mastery line before you find out. I wasted mine in that line and if I had known, I would have put them in the Legendary crafting one. And no refunds either.

Baldrick.8967:

Because it’s so low down the list of priorities. Currently it’s just below ‘fix Julie Nobrow’s left ear, it’s a micron off from left to right’.

There have been other threads about this: was going to be enabled for wvw, but then they decided they couldn’t be bothered so a horse rider or two were brought in to justify this.

No. They’ve stated they want it to be a reward for doing something in WvW, rather than PvE. I guess we’re getting a reworked Mastery system. I wonder what will happen to the current ranks.

If you have a naga mouse, Bind it to the 11 or 12 button. It isn’t so bad then, but agreed Anet failed big time with no wvw mastery system or even another “ability” to allocate wxp ranks on…..

What you shouldn’t do – change that map later to weapon swap (working through this muscle memory issue now)

One could rebind the key to “K” and spam with a middle finger instead.

I bind both loot and skill 1 to the same mouse button. Works for me

Give me autoloot with masteries for WvW now, and add a secondary way to acquire the ability through WvW means only later.

kthxbye

Still no news regarding this? a – m – g anet foreal?

We know the feature exists and could easily work in WvW. We know WvW masteries have been around longer than PvE ones. How ANet could have created an entirely new mastery for PvE and simply did not copy the same one into WvW is annoying to say the least. Some features may be more difficult to program than the look but this one is right there… sitting on the feature self… has almost all the work already done.

Straegen.2938:

We know the feature exists and could easily work in WvW. We know WvW masteries have been around longer than PvE ones. How ANet could have created an entirely new mastery for PvE and simply did not copy the same one into WvW is annoying to say the least. Some features may be more difficult to program than the look but this one is right there… sitting on the feature self… has almost all the work already done.

Yep this is what gets me as well. It appears to put a lie to their statements about working on WvW.

Its not even listed there. Time to give up.
http://help.guildwars2.com/entries/98802888

i was so angry after grinding pve just to get it. and then find out it doesn’t work in wvw, that was the whole point. i actually bought HoT just to use that feature in wvw.

I get why the mentor tag would be dumb, but autoloot should still work. Also add gliders and glider siege weapons and anti air.

We should get the same 2 skills from gliding like the new Shatt fight. That should turn things around!!!