Guild Wars 2

First thx Anet Test this match BG/JQ/TC.
Your WvW team doing great job again !

We all know why WvW not blance,because some Server have OCX/SEA another not.

JQ/TC have better SEA/OCX Coverage than FA/Mag.

Anet Need let BG/JQ/TC keep at T1 and give JQ link Server.

Those T2 SEA/OCX no one can fight people will xfer to JQ or TC

the blance gonna be over "

Anet WvW staff can check hows wvw at ocx/sea.

it’s really Awsome this week "

We used to have an executive who would have a few drinks, log into the work system from home, wreak havoc, while everyone would manically and quietly run behind doing cleanup.

Your post reminds me of that a bit.

Jayne.9251:

We used to have an executive who would have a few drinks, log into the work system from home, wreak havoc, while everyone would manically and quietly run behind doing cleanup.

Your post reminds me of that a bit.

sound like a english story

Seen one of BG’s sea commanders in eotm today so i have no clue what this guy is talking about. mag probably has one of the more populated ocx’s next to bg. BG bought every sea guild on NA servers so don’t expect fights untill they move off BG. listening to this guy might not be a good idea.

jamesdolla.3954:

Seen one of BG’s sea commanders in eotm today so i have no clue what this guy is talking about. mag probably has one of the more populated ocx’s next to bg. listening to this guy might not be a good idea.

uh.. idk what you mean.

im sorry about Mag.

OCX/SEA let WvW Not blance coz Na people call Nightcap PPT.

Mag have ZERO SEA Guilds and Sea population " :s

SO BG/JQ/TC at same match maybe is good plan for Anet blance it. "

Jerry CCH.9816:

jamesdolla.3954:

Seen one of BG’s sea commanders in eotm today so i have no clue what this guy is talking about. mag probably has one of the more populated ocx’s next to bg. listening to this guy might not be a good idea.

uh.. idk what you mean.

im sorry about Mag.

OCX/SEA let WvW Not blance coz Na people call Nightcap PPT.

Mag have ZERO SEA Guilds " :s

SO BG/JQ/TC at same match maybe is good plan for Anet blance it. "

Ok, I have no clue what you said right there bud. JQ has 0 ocx and sea guilds. tc has ocx but the sea is meh HIRE and sometimes FUG.

jamesdolla.3954:

Jerry CCH.9816:

jamesdolla.3954:

Seen one of BG’s sea commanders in eotm today so i have no clue what this guy is talking about. mag probably has one of the more populated ocx’s next to bg. listening to this guy might not be a good idea.

uh.. idk what you mean.

im sorry about Mag.

OCX/SEA let WvW Not blance coz Na people call Nightcap PPT.

Mag have ZERO SEA Guilds " :s

SO BG/JQ/TC at same match maybe is good plan for Anet blance it. "

Ok, I have no clue what you said right there bud. JQ has 0 ocx and sea guilds. tc has ocx but the sea is meh HIRE and sometimes FUG.

TC OCX – Tork eN LATE WL
JQ- maybe no like you said

but BG can fight TC enemy
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TC SEA : Hire Fug
JQ SEAWvW Ge ( JQ ez make full map Queue at Sea)

So BG 3 Way fight at SEA

BG can fight map queue OCX with TC and map queue SEA with JQ

Just checked the T1 scores. No surprise there. BG stomping on everything.
If BG is ever opened again, then it is clear there is no overall goal to balance WvW at all.

With regards to JQ.
No organized ocx guilds.
They just lost FOO to BG for SEA.
WvW dont raid much anymore and I am not sure about Ge.
Its safe to assume that any sea JQ has is usually 1 commander leading pugs/militia around so no organized sea guilds either.

JQ has won 0 skirmish, 3 2nd, 9 3rd.
Mag has won every skirmish, but oh yeah they have 0 sea, and nevermind JQ lost sea this week.
Some people need to put the drink down before posting in here.

Xenesis.6389:

JQ has won 0 skirmish, 3 2nd, 9 3rd.
Mag has won every skirmish, but oh yeah they have 0 sea, and nevermind JQ lost sea this week.
Some people need to put the drink down before posting in here.

coz Mag Match with FA last week

btw JQ win TC/SBI Match last week at T2

TC doing overtime when BG/JQ/TC this week match

Draeyon.4392:

Just checked the T1 scores. No surprise there. BG stomping on everything.
If BG is ever opened again, then it is clear there is no overall goal to balance WvW at all.

With regards to JQ.
No organized ocx guilds.
They just lost FOO to BG for SEA.
WvW dont raid much anymore and I am not sure about Ge.
Its safe to assume that any sea JQ has is usually 1 commander leading pugs/militia around so no organized sea guilds either.

It’s to late the damage has been done, whether it opens up again in the future or not is irrelevant because in the couple days it was open they managed to stack beyond the capacity of any other server. From what I have seen fighting all of the T1 & T2 servers recently, I would say it’s BG, Mag, JQ in that order for population/blob size/hours maintaining the blob.

Just my opinion of course.

The fix the issue servers should of been merged between timezones, then all would have full coverage. It would be easy to do on the backend. But they will probably say otherwise because then people wouldn’t transfer.

Whats in it for Anet if they lose the revenue from transfers?

NO Thankyou – Please let TC out of this tier – Anet spent the last month kittening over TC in matchups – 4 weeks as number 3 -4 ranked server and no tier 1 match in that time.
Even though TC won 3 weeks glicko kept going down until Anet decides to open JQ and BG and JQ wins a week sending TC to rank 6.

TC now get stuck in t1 with the two most populated servers after all that match manipulation and manual glicko adjustment.

If you are from TC and reading this #boycott ANY match with BG in it. Why would you even go into wvw just to be outnumbered on any map. I for one will not set foot in wvw again until we get parity.

Jerry CCH.9816:

Xenesis.6389:

JQ has won 0 skirmish, 3 2nd, 9 3rd.
Mag has won every skirmish, but oh yeah they have 0 sea, and nevermind JQ lost sea this week.
Some people need to put the drink down before posting in here.

coz Mag Match with FA last week

btw JQ win TC/SBI Match last week at T2

TC doing overtime when BG/JQ/TC this week match

Oh TC playing overtime is why JQ is losing, good to know BG has nothing to do with it.

so any Good idea than me to blance ?

i think im the best now.

coz Anet no more hand to focus WvW now

Onslaught only fields 15.

If this matchup could be maintained, I wouldn’t mind. There were great fights in almost every timezone this weekend. JQ could use some more NA guilds. TC could use more SEA. But it was nice to just see people showing up and having fights with bags flowing on all three sides.

JQ and TC used map politics to flip T3 objectives which makes for challenging and interesting situations.

Guilds looking for the T1 atmosphere of populated and challenging fights should consider JQ or TC.

ukyo.5639:

If this matchup could be maintained, I wouldn’t mind. There were great fights in almost every timezone this weekend. JQ could use some more NA guilds. TC could use more SEA. But it was nice to just see people showing up and having fights with bags flowing on all three sides.

JQ and TC used map politics to flip T3 objectives which makes for challenging and interesting situations.

Guilds looking for the T1 atmosphere of populated and challenging fights should consider JQ or TC.

NA T1 always wanting more……

How about we lock all NA servers except BG, JQ and TC and then close out all other tiers because that’s what WvW is all about. Anyone that can’t play the game the way Anet wanted it to be played should just go to EotM.

ukyo.5639:

If this matchup could be maintained, I wouldn’t mind. There were great fights in almost every timezone this weekend. JQ could use some more NA guilds. TC could use more SEA. But it was nice to just see people showing up and having fights with bags flowing on all three sides.

JQ and TC used map politics to flip T3 objectives which makes for challenging and interesting situations.

Guilds looking for the T1 atmosphere of populated and challenging fights should consider JQ or TC.

yup we hope it happen ^.^

make WvW great again "

I don’t think ANET should EVER put someone in T1 unless they are full or very high. I’ve seen servers be put up to T1 for a week or two when they were only at high and they got rolled.

i think im having a deja vu
the clairvoyance is too stronk for the matchup stagnation again…….

Swamurabi.7890:

How about we lock all NA servers except BG, JQ and TC and then close out all other tiers because that’s what WvW is all about. Anyone that can’t play the game the way Anet wanted it to be played should just go to EotM.

This might have been meant as a joke but it’s actually a really solid idea. Leaving three, fixed servers permanently open for transfers and locking all the rest would allow everyone who wants huge blob fights to transfer up to get them and leave everyone else to play in a more nuanced way. It would also enforce and maintain server pride.

Allow everyone on the three unlocked servers a free, one-time transfer off just so no-one who doesn’t want to be there is trapped when the walls go up for the rest of the worlds. That would include transfers up – you get one and only one chance to undo your decision if it was a mistake. In that case you get no choice about where you go – you re vert to the server you left.

F2P accounts all automatically start on one of the three unlocked servers. Paid-for accounts get a full choice at Account creation as now, leaving that as the only means of population increase for the Locked servers.

Better than picking the current top three servers, use this as an opportunity to create three brand-new Open servers. Then BG people can decide if server loyalty outweighs the desire to be on the biggest server, which very soon will not be BG.

Norbe.7630:

i think im having a deja vu
the clairvoyance is too stronk for the matchup stagnation again…….

static balanced match > rotating blowout match

I don’t want to hear any crying from BG. You wanted an undersized JQ, you got them. We call called it as SBI and TC were hanging with them previously in T2.

Now you can blow them out lol

Jerry CCH.9816:

First thx Anet Test this match BG/JQ/TC.
Your WvW team doing great job again !

We all know why WvW not blance,because some Server have OCX/SEA another not.

JQ/TC have better SEA/OCX Coverage than FA/Mag.

Anet Need let BG/JQ/TC keep at T1 and give JQ link Server.

Those T2 SEA/OCX no one can fight people will xfer to JQ or TC

the blance gonna be over "

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Anet WvW staff can check hows wvw at ocx/sea.

it’s really Awsome this week "

This is the second request thread I’ve seen from you in about 2 weeks. The first one was to open JQ. It happened you guys got stacked up. Here’s my perspective:

Last week we(TC) got absolutely smashed all day by stacked JQ. Then come prime time when we actually have more than 15 people there is barely a JQ to be found to fight. So I find it a bit frustrating to read what you have typed here. Nothing changed with JQ opening; all you guys got was more SEA/OCX players and continued to do what JQ does best; which is Ktrain (but now harder) during off hours.

It’s aggravating to go to bed at 12am EST with most of the our stuff upgraded and secured only to wake up 8 hours later to a JQ capped sea of objectives. In addition not being able to do anything for another 9 hours while the JQ blobs farms champ bags and camps spawn. BG is no different. They just have the numbers to do this all hours of the day.

Giving JQ a link that has a decent population of NA prime and EU would prob do the server a lot of good for making it a fair match up vs the 10000 pound gorilla black gate is.

However, in doing so your not going to balance out the third server in the match up and just see them give up the match and fall out. Simply put the rest of the servers don’t have good SEA/OCX coverage during the week and two servers literally hog all the players for that coverage. BG, JQ with a link vs X makes the match up pointless for X in the current state for populations.

Really enjoyed being bent over all day by Blackgate running 30 more than us during any given timezone Anet doing a great job of balance allowing a server with the population of the USA go toe to toe with Mexico and Canada.

To put into perspective how 12 hours of being blobbed feels its similar to being whipped by a belt buckle from dad.

Clearly BG being opened for transfers was a mistake. ANET should say sorry and refund those that moved during this period and send them back to the servers they came from.

If ANET wishes to create some form of balance then it needs to act, otherwise T1 NA is going to become the place where no one wants to be, players, guilds even servers will take the week off if they get a T1 matchup.

I don’t think that JQ wants Foo back after they winning team joined to BG, but who am I to judge.

lol re-open BG. I want to transfer there. We can have 70 on each map while a few hundred wait in queue. This isn’t broken enough yet. It needs to hit a place similar to the moment you realize you’ve cracked your 60 inch flatscreen or broke your $2400 DSLR.

At least there are some decent fights sometimes. Until people stop caring and leave the other servers to ktrain.

BG received two JQ SEA guilds after the re-opening. Foo and tga.

TC has lost a lot of people, a lot of you really don’t seem to have a clue of who is populated and should be T1 in the games current state. TC was completely destroyed last week by JQ and SBI … that’s right SBI a T3 server.

It’s no secret BG is out of control and can literally walk all over every server if they choose, the only servers that can be competitive with that currently are JQ and Magumma. Even then BG will still walk all over them but population wise, TC isn’t even in the running anymore. Mag has managed to maintain a consistent blob this entire match, something I think even JQ struggles to do.

You want balance? Not going to happen. But if you want the closest thing to balance in the top two tiers, T1 needs BG/JQ/Mag, T2 needs FA, YB, TC.

Nuzt.7894:

TC has lost a lot of people, a lot of you really don’t seem to have a clue of who is populated and should be T1 in the games current state. TC was completely destroyed last week by JQ and SBI … that’s right SBI a T3 server.

It’s no secret BG is out of control and can literally walk all over every server if they choose, the only servers that can be competitive with that currently are JQ and Magumma. Even then BG will still walk all over them but population wise, TC isn’t even in the running anymore. Mag has managed to maintain a consistent blob this entire match, something I think even JQ struggles to do.

You want balance? Not going to happen. But if you want the closest thing to balance in the top two tiers, T1 needs BG/JQ/Mag, T2 needs FA, YB, TC.

You seriously overestimate TC’s size. We literally had the Outnumbered buff going on during NA prime at times. We also lost guilds of our own (to JQ and BG, mind you).
Last week’s sole goal was to farm the guilds that transferred to JQ (before it re-opened), rather than PPT, because it was said by these guilds that TC couldn’t fight and they were carrying us. It’s why we were in first place by a wide margin for the first half of the week. The PPK from high-density blobs that kept wiping over and over was carrying our PPT rather than objectives. We held JQ’s keep almost as long as they did. To say we got “destroyed” is just untrue when quite frankly JQ was the side being farmed. And this week it still largely is when BG doesn’t decide to jump into the fights after they start.

SBI had substantial linking presence and a majority of TC’s commanders took the rest of the week off when BG and JQ opened, and they PPT’ed hard with nobody defending our BL’s or caring to PPT objectives (everyone wanted to just keep farming JQ), since winning wasn’t wanted to push us into having a higher chance to roll into T1 with two massively over-stacked servers (the irony). We fell from first to third within two days before the reset. The matchup was enjoyable nonetheless, but I don’t think it’s fair to judge TC’s performance based on an anomalous matchup issue.

After last night, I think T2 would be better with SBI instead of YB.

Obviously, but not like anyone can compete with Mag in tier 2 (other than BG/JQ if they happened to roll down). Tier 2 should probably be a rotation between all the tier 2/3 servers, Tier 1 should be BG/JQ/Mag, and BG can just win every week by 100k+ while they sit in queues and ask to reopen for more transfers.

JQ/TC have Sea/Ocx coverage better than Mag

Mag just nothing at Sea

They slould be better at T2 or not Mag ppl will said we just PvD…. =_=

Mag will lost many PPT during SEA "

Not Fair for them

Jerry CCH.9816:

JQ/TC have Sea/Ocx coverage better than Mag

You’ve been told many times, JQ has no ocx guild with sox leaving. Mag now has 2 ocx guilds that run regularly in knf and sox and another couple that run occasionally. With JQs sea I think its mainly pugs now led by Cloudfly or Sfeee from GE.

Haha, JQ, TC and BG probably all have PTSD from being farmed so hard by us and are rejoicing that they can have a good old PPT focused match like the old days.

Enjoy your karma while it lasts. We’ll be seeing you all real soon (: <

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Haha, JQ, TC and BG probably all have PTSD from being farmed so hard by us and are rejoicing that they can have a good old PPT focused match like the old days.

Enjoy your karma while it lasts. We’ll be seeing you all real soon (: <

I have PTSD from Mag attacking friends and guildmembers on the personal level until they made them quit, and from groups running 10+ condi mesmers to kill single players and to have the audacity to brag about being good and laughing it off, tbh. The Mag mentality is heavily why the small-scale scene is dead.

Nah, T1 right now isn’t a PPT game. It’s a slaughter because the populations are so different there’s no point in most cases in even trying to take and hold an objective because BG will flip it at some point since our population across four maps most of the day is roughly the same as one of theirs at any given time.

DeceiverX.8361:

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Haha, JQ, TC and BG probably all have PTSD from being farmed so hard by us and are rejoicing that they can have a good old PPT focused match like the old days.

Enjoy your karma while it lasts. We’ll be seeing you all real soon (: <

I have PTSD from Mag attacking friends and guildmembers on the personal level until they made them quit, and from groups running 10+ condi mesmers to kill single players and to have the audacity to brag about being good and laughing it off, tbh. The Mag mentality is heavily why the small-scale scene is dead.

Nah, T1 right now isn’t a PPT game. It’s a slaughter because the populations are so different there’s no point in most cases in even trying to take and hold an objective because BG will flip it at some point since our population across four maps most of the day is roughly the same as one of theirs at any given time.

i can copy your write "

Nah, T2 right now isn’t a PPT game. It’s a slaughter because the populations are so different there’s no point in most cases in even trying to take and hold an objective

BG and Mag are super stacked T1’s right now. JQ lost our OCX and two NA guilds to Mag the past couple weeks. While 2 of our Sea went to BG last week. So I’m going to laugh when Anet locks JQ, which should be in about 7 hours, and say’s we have more players than anyone.

ukyo.5639:

If this matchup could be maintained, I wouldn’t mind. There were great fights in almost every timezone this weekend. JQ could use some more NA guilds. TC could use more SEA. But it was nice to just see people showing up and having fights with bags flowing on all three sides.

JQ and TC used map politics to flip T3 objectives which makes for challenging and interesting situations.

Guilds looking for the T1 atmosphere of populated and challenging fights should consider JQ or TC.

This is silly. First the only reason everyone is trying because TC and JQ are in do or die mode.

BG doesn’t have to try hard to win or be competitive.
FA didnt even want to fight you why would they break your waypoints.
MAG is a server with a different mentality. They don’t want to fight your T3 waypoints and
24/7 coverage

TC just lost Kazo and JQ just like Hs to Mag. Why? Because everyone wants to stack to your level. You dont know what you’re talking about here. I’m sorry.

Funny you made that claim only looking at the weekend yet the blow away during every timezone is obvious.

The last mass transfer was a brutal blow for WvW, Mag is a close second but BG still heavily out populates them. What we currently have is 1 T0 server (BG) 1 T1 Server (Mag) and I don’t even know at this point 5 T2 Servers? (SBI, YB, TC, FA, JQ). Anet really needs to man up admit their Formula/Algorithm is flat out wrong. I don’t even think there is a reasonable way of fixing this disaster at this point.

The only thing Anet can do is realise they made a bad mistake, accept it and then reverse the transfers that happened onto BG, refunding those players that transfered.

Nuzt.7894:

The last mass transfer was a brutal blow for WvW, Mag is a close second but BG still heavily out populates them. What we currently have is 1 T0 server (BG) 1 T1 Server (Mag) and I don’t even know at this point 5 T2 Servers? (SBI, YB, TC, FA, JQ). Anet really needs to man up admit their Formula/Algorithm is flat out wrong. I don’t even think there is a reasonable way of fixing this disaster at this point.

It’s not the algorithm that’s the problem. It’s the fact people deliberately manipulate it.

Chaba.5410:

After last night, I think T2 would be better with SBI instead of YB.

I spend 10% of wvw time on FA account now, other 90% on SBI. Server is fun as hell and liking the fights.

Just blow up the servers people….
Those two servers are stacked over the years, it will not magically spread out overnight or within a year or two, the return players effects gonna be lasting too.

Blow everything up, reset everything to zero, make things competitive again.

Those SEA guilds that went BG, sorry, they are not gonna last, BG is never known as SEA server to the SEA players so I wonder where they gonna recruit from now they are out of JQ, the heaven to recruit SEA players, and in a closed server. SEA people will continue to flock to JQ unless everything are deleted, servers name abandoned so even a google search on SEA servers or anything close will simply lead to old servers.

DeceiverX.8361:

Nuzt.7894:

The last mass transfer was a brutal blow for WvW, Mag is a close second but BG still heavily out populates them. What we currently have is 1 T0 server (BG) 1 T1 Server (Mag) and I don’t even know at this point 5 T2 Servers? (SBI, YB, TC, FA, JQ). Anet really needs to man up admit their Formula/Algorithm is flat out wrong. I don’t even think there is a reasonable way of fixing this disaster at this point.

It’s not the algorithm that’s the problem. It’s the fact people deliberately manipulate it.

Pretty much ALL OF THIS. ANet will not stop mindlessly players for kicking other players who don’t want to put up with the BS out of the game. So GG and enjoy yall’s [competitive ‘who can stack the best’ game]. WvW is pretty much officially off limits to anyone who is looking for a competitive RvR like game mode.

DeceiverX.8361:

Nuzt.7894:

The last mass transfer was a brutal blow for WvW, Mag is a close second but BG still heavily out populates them. What we currently have is 1 T0 server (BG) 1 T1 Server (Mag) and I don’t even know at this point 5 T2 Servers? (SBI, YB, TC, FA, JQ). Anet really needs to man up admit their Formula/Algorithm is flat out wrong. I don’t even think there is a reasonable way of fixing this disaster at this point.

It’s not the algorithm that’s the problem. It’s the fact people deliberately manipulate it.

Which means it’s the Algorithm, if it can be so easily manipulated it should not be used because it obviously is giving incorrect information, and yet they still believe it to be gospel. It’s not like it’s a best kept secret that certain servers have been manipulating population counts for quite sometime now. The Algorithm is failing due to this, therefore it is not a properly functioning tool that populations should be based off of.

Nuzt.7894:

DeceiverX.8361:

Nuzt.7894:

The last mass transfer was a brutal blow for WvW, Mag is a close second but BG still heavily out populates them. What we currently have is 1 T0 server (BG) 1 T1 Server (Mag) and I don’t even know at this point 5 T2 Servers? (SBI, YB, TC, FA, JQ). Anet really needs to man up admit their Formula/Algorithm is flat out wrong. I don’t even think there is a reasonable way of fixing this disaster at this point.

It’s not the algorithm that’s the problem. It’s the fact people deliberately manipulate it.

Which means it’s the Algorithm, if it can be so easily manipulated it should not be used because it obviously is giving incorrect information, and yet they still believe it to be gospel. It’s not like it’s a best kept secret that certain servers have been manipulating population counts for quite sometime now. The Algorithm is failing due to this, therefore it is not a properly functioning tool that populations should be based off of.

Lol but as long as there is a such thing as server transfer mixed in with a gaming community that is so willing to manipulate matches in there favor. All is for nought. Only ways to solve this problem is

A.) Punish players for zerging, I don’t see ANet ever doing this.

B.) Make it so players are locked to there server of choice, ANet will not this for obvious reason I need not to mention.

C.) Perma banned every player who actively stack servers. I really don’t see ANet doing this either at all.

So pretty much WvW is nothing but a joke of a game mode where only two types of people play. Sadists and Masochists. All other need not even try, there is no fun to be had outside of those two groups.