With all the QQing with BlakGate in Tier 2, and with JadeQuarry and YakBend doubling teaming TarnishCoast in Tier 1, I’d like point out that Maguuma/StormIsle/CrystalDesert is the best place for close battles.
If your looking for good GvG and fights, please transfer to one of the servers in Tier 3. Please come. I’m glad I don’t transfer to JadeQuarry when I had the chance. Maguuma has taught me what true Guild Wars 2 players should be like!
That’s only because Maguuma doesn’t play for points. If we did, we would be fighting in Tier 1. We are humble players that pay with honor. If we don’t control ourself and hold back, all servers would cry at our power level.
i think mag seems worse than they really are because we’ve been fighting them for so long. every server has terds. mag has so many havoc guilds that brag about skill, but most run mesmer cheese specs and will 3-5v1 the solo roamers. Is SBI better though? We dont have many havoc guilds, but we will send a pug zerg to kill 1 guy taking a camp. It’s all meh.
Only thing that I find really disheartening is Obs (mag commander) live-streaming himself in SBI TS while ganking us (which he then posted on this forum), and the matchup has gone on so long that the spying is getting pretty awful. its an everyday occurrence.
T3 is pretty balanced, but it was a lot better before all the GvG from T2 transferred in. Maybe they will stop taking up queue space when guild halls come out, but I doubt guild halls will match the large, interesting and varied environments they will want to fight in.
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i think mag seems worse than they really are because we’ve been fighting them for so long. every server has terds. mag has so many havoc guilds that brag about skill, but most run mesmer cheese specs and will 3-5v1 the solo roamers. Is SBI better though? We dont have many havoc guilds, but we will send a pug zerg to kill 1 guy taking a camp. It’s all meh.
Only thing that I find really disheartening is Obs (mag commander) live-streaming himself in SBI TS while ganking us (which he then posted on this forum), and the matchup has gone on so long that the spying is getting pretty awful. its an everyday occurrence.
T3 is pretty balanced, but it was a lot better before all the GvG from T2 transferred in. Maybe they will stop taking up queue space when guild halls come out, but I doubt guild halls will match the large, interesting and varied environments they will want to fight in.
Is SBI better though? We dont have many havoc guilds, but we will send a pug zerg to kill 1 guy taking a camp. It’s all meh.
Lies. We do not send the zerg unless 2 people attack it. Unfortunately, some may mistaken mesmer clones or ranger pets for people.
As for the rest, I wouldn’t let a few people make everyone look bad. Maguuma is still the only server to have people attempt to join my party without trash talking, in my experience.
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Looking at scores this week it seems t3 is the only balanced tier atm. GJ on making that happen. Hope you guys can keep it that way. Now if some other guilds want to balance some other tiers please don’t stack on SF anymore. :P
With all the QQing with BlakGate in Tier 2, and with JadeQuarry and YakBend doubling teaming TarnishCoast in Tier 1, I’d like point out that Maguuma/StormIsle/CrystalDesert is the best place for close battles.
If your looking for good GvG and fights, please transfer to one of the servers in Tier 3. Please come. I’m glad I don’t transfer to JadeQuarry when I had the chance. Maguuma has taught me what true Guild Wars 2 players should be like!
You have that so wrong.
The double-teaming in tier1 isn’t JQ and YB… It’s TC and JQ and they have no reason not to be attacking each other with their numbers.
They forced a large server down by double-teaming – now they will bounce YB out because of?
Too bad WvW can’t just be two servers or more than three, this double-teaming isn’t fighting – it’s bullying without a chance.
WvW is supposed to be about having a chance to win – with skill. Skill doesn’t enter into WvW at all on most servers, it’s all numbers and nothing more.
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Looking at scores this week it seems t3 is the only balanced tier atm. GJ on making that happen. Hope you guys can keep it that way. Now if some other guilds want to balance some other tiers please don’t stack on SF anymore. :P
You noticed that too? Maybe Anet will awaken someday and do right by WvW, but that day is NOT today.
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Go to t3 if you want to apart of the biggest matchfix in history. All in the effort not to move up to t2!!!! Whilst im sure its good there atm, you cant overlook this fact.
Btw no one is QQing about BG being in t2. We in FA and SoS are having a blast fighting them. Its likewise for BG fighting us.
Go to t3 if you want to apart of the biggest matchfix in history. All in the effort not to move up to t2!!!! Whilst im sure its good there atm, you cant overlook this fact.
No need to overlook that – just look at what you’re rewarded with for not matchfixing: repeatedly getting your teeth smashed into the pavement.
Try to play the game that way, and it ends up playing you instead. Fact is, the way the game was meant to be played is pretty awful – so if you have to break the rules to enjoy it, then so be it.
Go to t3 if you want to apart of the biggest matchfix in history. All in the effort not to move up to t2!!!! Whilst im sure its good there atm, you cant overlook this fact.
Are you in t3 to witness this giant conspiracy? Because I haven’t really seen it.
Because you know, it’d take a ton of effort to reach t2; now that would take matchfixing.
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for there you have been and there you will long to return.
The double-teaming in tier1 isn’t JQ and YB… It’s TC and JQ and they have no reason not to be attacking each other with their numbers.
So this is happening on NA aswell? I though the guys from Kodash and Riverside were the only kittens acting like that. Well, misery loves company, I guess, thought that won’t help affected worlds at all…
With all the QQing with BlakGate in Tier 2, and with JadeQuarry and YakBend doubling teaming TarnishCoast in Tier 1, I’d like point out that Maguuma/StormIsle/CrystalDesert is the best place for close battles.
If your looking for good GvG and fights, please transfer to one of the servers in Tier 3. Please come. I’m glad I don’t transfer to JadeQuarry when I had the chance. Maguuma has taught me what true Guild Wars 2 players should be like!
You have that so wrong.
The double-teaming in tier1 isn’t JQ and YB… It’s TC and JQ and they have no reason not to be attacking each other with their numbers.
They forced a large server down by double-teaming – now they will bounce YB out because of?
Too bad WvW can’t just be two servers or more than three, this double-teaming isn’t fighting – it’s bullying without a chance.
WvW is supposed to be about having a chance to win – with skill. Skill doesn’t enter into WvW at all on most servers, it’s all numbers and nothing more.
I noticed that too. JQ and TC did that today when we took YBs Red keep in EB. It was wild. JQ was on the walls and out front keeping any dead YB from returning and TC was in the lords capping. YB put up a great fight but as soon as the cap went down, JQ jumped out spawn camped a few minutes then took Veloka. I screen shot it all. I saw BG do this twice to TC with JQ being the one to cap Red Keep and BG jump out and cap Veloka. T1 bothers me. But again, JQ is part of the alliance. Why.
The double-teaming in tier1 isn’t JQ and YB… It’s TC and JQ and they have no reason not to be attacking each other with their numbers.
So this is happening on NA aswell? I though the guys from Kodash and Riverside were the only kittens acting like that. Well, misery loves company, I guess, thought that won’t help affected worlds at all…
Yeah it was wild. I actually ran up the steps figuring we would be fighting JQ but they leaped out and then I rememberd that is exactly what BG did twice to us with JQ. Glad I took the screen shots because it did look odd with JQ all stacked on the northern gate, I kept my camera to them figuring they would wait until we got YB down and they would jump in and wipe us.
That’s only because Maguuma doesn’t play for points. If we did, we would be fighting in Tier 1. We are humble players that pay with honor. If we don’t control ourself and hold back, all servers would cry at our power level.
Isn’t WvW about PPT? How do you tell people not in your guild to hold off? Do you pull punches and not run all out when fighting? Not sure how all that works. When I’m on I play to win. I play to cap and back cap and if I see another server I fight them but I don’t do it at the cost of our teams PPT. I don’t spawn camp, drop siege on dead soldiers, laugh, emote whatever, nor do I run away from a fight. But PPT is what its all about and fights while achieving it. No?
No it’s not only about PPT; that’s sorta backwards. PPT is a component of WvW, and important to the leaderboards, world rewards, and glicko matchup system but WvW is about many things: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World_versus_World
World versus World (also known as WvW) is a Player versus Player game mode where players from three different servers, or worlds, battle in the Mists. It features open-world combat on five large maps with up to several hundreds of players per map. In World versus World, players can besiege structures such as Keeps and Towers with siege weapons, and battle over resources, to win rewards for their world and World Experience for themselves.
WvW is designed to accommodate players that would not normally participate in PvP. For instance, the high player limit means that a new player can get involved without immediately feeling pressured to contribute. In addition, objectives are available for a variety of group sizes, so players don’t need to be members of dedicated guilds in order to be productive. There are also PvE objectives in the world such as hero challenges, events and jumping puzzles.
And yes, while it is silly to bring up the jumping puzzle, the very existence of Obsidian Sanctum should contradict that WvW is exclusively about the score.
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
That’s only because Maguuma doesn’t play for points. If we did, we would be fighting in Tier 1. We are humble players that pay with honor. If we don’t control ourself and hold back, all servers would cry at our power level.
Isn’t WvW about PPT? How do you tell people not in your guild to hold off? Do you pull punches and not run all out when fighting? Not sure how all that works. When I’m on I play to win. I play to cap and back cap and if I see another server I fight them but I don’t do it at the cost of our teams PPT. I don’t spawn camp, drop siege on dead soldiers, laugh, emote whatever, nor do I run away from a fight. But PPT is what its all about and fights while achieving it. No?
When you run the Zerg you can control the ppt you get. To a certain extent. T3 likes to think if itself as the fight tier. Guilds have a habit of just knocking holes in sm to bring out whoever has it and then just running around the hole fighting whoever shows up.
Or taking a tower and then just squating in it untill people show up to take it back. Heck I’ve seen blobs that could easily have taken everything we owned, open a fully upgraded tower we owned and then just stand outside waiting. When we wouldn’t come out they just left back to their side.
So it isn’t really about not playing to win, they play to win the fights, just not the ppt. Since none of them want to move up, winning over all by a large margin would be bad.
Although with the new transfers coming in there do seem to be more people showing up doing the ppt thing.
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It’s probably the other end – HOD – that will get there first. Around 10% right now….
Hod’s been at 7ish% for awhile and if they ever do roll tier 3 I think they would get destroyed because tier 3 has gotten much larger(tons of tier 2 guilds have came here and by that I mean 45+ guilds spread around the servers) since the last time Hod was in tier 3. The last time HoD and CD faced off CD won by about 100k http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/34/289 and that was before we got all the tier 2 transfers and we are the smallest of the tier 3 servers.
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That’s only because Maguuma doesn’t play for points. If we did, we would be fighting in Tier 1. We are humble players that pay with honor. If we don’t control ourself and hold back, all servers would cry at our power level.
Isn’t WvW about PPT? How do you tell people not in your guild to hold off? Do you pull punches and not run all out when fighting? Not sure how all that works. When I’m on I play to win. I play to cap and back cap and if I see another server I fight them but I don’t do it at the cost of our teams PPT. I don’t spawn camp, drop siege on dead soldiers, laugh, emote whatever, nor do I run away from a fight. But PPT is what its all about and fights while achieving it. No?
When you run the Zerg you can control the ppt you get. To a certain extent. T3 likes to think if itself as the fight tier. Guilds have a habit of just knocking holes in sm to bring out whoever has it and then just running around the hole fighting whoever shows up.
Or taking a tower and then just squating in it untill people show up to take it back. Heck I’ve seen blobs that could easily have taken everything we owned, open a fully upgraded tower we owned and then just stand outside waiting. When we wouldn’t come out they just left back to their side.
So it isn’t really about not playing to win, they play to win the fights, just not the ppt. Since none of them want to move up, winning over all by a large margin would be bad.
Although with the new transfers coming in there do seem to be more people showing up doing the ppt thing.
The new transfers are GvG guilds who fled the T2 that T1 ruined by stacking YB.
The GvG guilds mostly dont ppt: they roam around open field areas in big zergs and fight other GvG zergs. The ppt zergs leave them alone.
It is pretty confusing for people who dont know the GvG guild tags, what they’re doing, why they dont want to be followed, or why they will stand outside Bay and not help take or defend it, and when the map queus up for a quick keep blitz, it can get a little frustrating that ~30 people arent helping out. they generally try to avoid active maps though.
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That’s only because Maguuma doesn’t play for points. If we did, we would be fighting in Tier 1. We are humble players that pay with honor. If we don’t control ourself and hold back, all servers would cry at our power level.
Isn’t WvW about PPT? How do you tell people not in your guild to hold off? Do you pull punches and not run all out when fighting? Not sure how all that works. When I’m on I play to win. I play to cap and back cap and if I see another server I fight them but I don’t do it at the cost of our teams PPT. I don’t spawn camp, drop siege on dead soldiers, laugh, emote whatever, nor do I run away from a fight. But PPT is what its all about and fights while achieving it. No?
No. That might be what it’s about for you. For many of us it’s about fights. I have never been part of a server (SBI) that so often actively avoids fights to backcap towers and camps.
“Oh hey, 25 red names at WC”
“Great, let’s go take the other tower they just capped back.”
In my opinion if all you want to do is PvD for PPT you might as well just go PvE.
That’s because every PPTer who made T2 “balanced”, transferred to T3 when those BG T1 guilds made YB horrendously overstated only to have population changes basically locked by the new algorithm. GG
That’s only because Maguuma doesn’t play for points. If we did, we would be fighting in Tier 1. We are humble players that pay with honor. If we don’t control ourself and hold back, all servers would cry at our power level.
Isn’t WvW about PPT? How do you tell people not in your guild to hold off? Do you pull punches and not run all out when fighting? Not sure how all that works. When I’m on I play to win. I play to cap and back cap and if I see another server I fight them but I don’t do it at the cost of our teams PPT. I don’t spawn camp, drop siege on dead soldiers, laugh, emote whatever, nor do I run away from a fight. But PPT is what its all about and fights while achieving it. No?
When you run the Zerg you can control the ppt you get. To a certain extent. T3 likes to think if itself as the fight tier. Guilds have a habit of just knocking holes in sm to bring out whoever has it and then just running around the hole fighting whoever shows up.
Or taking a tower and then just squating in it untill people show up to take it back. Heck I’ve seen blobs that could easily have taken everything we owned, open a fully upgraded tower we owned and then just stand outside waiting. When we wouldn’t come out they just left back to their side.
So it isn’t really about not playing to win, they play to win the fights, just not the ppt. Since none of them want to move up, winning over all by a large margin would be bad.
Although with the new transfers coming in there do seem to be more people showing up doing the ppt thing.
The new transfers are GvG guilds who fled the T2 that T1 ruined by stacking YB.
The GvG guilds mostly dont ppt: they roam around open field areas in big zergs and fight other GvG zergs. The ppt zergs leave them alone.
It is pretty confusing for people who dont know the GvG guild tags, what they’re doing, why they dont want to be followed, or why they will stand outside Bay and not help take or defend it, and when the map queus up for a quick keep blitz, it can get a little frustrating that ~30 people arent helping out. they generally try to avoid active maps though.
The Guild Halls in upcoming HOT should take care of the last part of your post as the GVGers will now have their own little piece of the Mists to PVP each other to their heart’s content without queuing up the border lands for people who really want to ppt.
PvEr – I am here to kill things
WvWer – I am here to take and kill things, killing NPCs is not killing things
GvGer – Why are you taking things, just kill players
PvPer (Conquest)- Why aren’t you peeps queued up in ranked already? That’s not skill you had better gear, get to fighting! Oh and cap home already they are ticking
PvPer (Deathmatch) – orly? What exactly do you all think you are doing again?
Forum Warrior – You are all wrong because I can type it and say so! So you are all deadz!
Evil trend. I do hope that guild halls do create a large enough area for the GvG people to have fun in but we all do find fun in different spots. We can also hope that they bring back a mix of PPT and PPK. Either way good hunting!
When you run the Zerg you can control the ppt you get. To a certain extent. T3 likes to think if itself as the fight tier.
T3 was in a nice spot where you could find a mix of things in WvW. Looking to zerg, we had that. Looking to solo, you can do that, looking to PPT, yup. Looking to fight, yup. Not looking for complete queues, ok mostly. Looking for small group action, yup we have stuff for you. Want to Pug some, we can do that. No offense but hope that doesn’t change too much especially as we see how F2P affects things in the upcoming months and see how much population the new maps can support. But we shall see.
Side question to those that consider themselves fight guilds, are you planning on using Arenas?
PvEr – I am here to kill things
WvWer – I am here to take and kill things, killing NPCs is not killing things
GvGer – Why are you taking things, just kill players
PvPer (Conquest)- Why aren’t you peeps queued up in ranked already? That’s not skill you had better gear, get to fighting! Oh and cap home already they are ticking
PvPer (Deathmatch) – orly? What exactly do you all think you are doing again?
Forum Warrior – You are all wrong because I can type it and say so! So you are all deadz!
Evil trend. I do hope that guild halls do create a large enough area for the GvG people to have fun in but we all do find fun in different spots. We can also hope that they bring back a mix of PPT and PPK. Either way good hunting!
We did the math once upon a time, and I assume it’s still the same. You can influence the PPT far more drastically by stomping than you can by owning points if you have enough fights. This was back on my SoR days when fights were plentiful.
Edit – This of course was after the introduction of Bloodlust. It also introduced a fun mechanic for those of us who preferred roaming. Go control the middle, and let the main group stomp stomp stomp.
With all the QQing with BlakGate in Tier 2, and with JadeQuarry and YakBend doubling teaming TarnishCoast in Tier 1, I’d like point out that Maguuma/StormIsle/CrystalDesert is the best place for close battles.
If your looking for good GvG and fights, please transfer to one of the servers in Tier 3. Please come. I’m glad I don’t transfer to JadeQuarry when I had the chance. Maguuma has taught me what true Guild Wars 2 players should be like!
That’s only because Maguuma doesn’t play for points. If we did, we would be fighting in Tier 1. We are humble players that pay with honor. If we don’t control ourself and hold back, all servers would cry at our power level.
Isn’t WvW about PPT? How do you tell people not in your guild to hold off? Do you pull punches and not run all out when fighting? Not sure how all that works. When I’m on I play to win. I play to cap and back cap and if I see another server I fight them but I don’t do it at the cost of our teams PPT. I don’t spawn camp, drop siege on dead soldiers, laugh, emote whatever, nor do I run away from a fight. But PPT is what its all about and fights while achieving it. No?
Contrary to what most people thing, a lot of GvGers, do play WvW during their free (non raiding) time, is the only reasson why the GvG tier is a high tier instead T8 for example. GvG playerts tag along with the commanders and roam arround capping small stuff camps, killing yaks, sentrys and what not, that influences server score. PPL who thinks arenas will take all the GvGers out WvW are completelly wrong. You may stop see them running arround so often, but players from those guilds will still impact the server performance. Also Openfield fighting is fun, no rules just killing kitten is just fun as long you are not fighting enemy siege.
Fight comunity avoid siege as much as posible like, we don’t build ACs unless necesary; extremly outnumbered defense of an upgraded structure for example, other than that we prefer to fight straight up, siege is AIDS. Getting shot by cannons or ACs while trying to fight an enemy zerg is what we try avoid at all costs. No respectable guild or commader will ever build siege in order to win a fight. Most people/guilds/commanders in T3 thinks the same way, there are a couple siege monkeys on SBI but that is to be expected from not fight oriented pugs and stuff.
Fight comunity avoid siege as much as posible like, we don’t build ACs unless necesary; extremly outnumbered defense of an upgraded structure for example, other than that we prefer to fight straight up, siege is AIDS. Getting shot by cannons or ACs while trying to fight an enemy zerg is what we try avoid at all costs. No respectable guild or commader will ever build siege in order to win a fight. Most people/guilds/commanders in T3 thinks the same way, there are a couple siege monkeys on SBI but that is to be expected from not fight oriented pugs and stuff.
lawl.
Maguuma doesn’t hide behind their tower walls with siege even when they outnumber the opponent.
