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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

Anet, you said the tournament pricing for transfers was from March 28-May30 yet the pricing is still in place. Fix it already.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/get-ready-for-wvw-spring-tournament-2014/
“Tournament pricing (March 28-May 30)”

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

Anet,
It is extremely unfair of you to not have adjusted transfer prices right as the season ended (Your blog post said tournament pricing is from March 28th – May 30th). This is the time when players are looking to transfer and my server cannot compete fairly for these transfers (in the free market of transfers) against servers with a transfer price more than double of what it costs to transfer to a server at a higher rank.

I demand free transfers to affected servers as compensation for this blunder on your part.

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Posted by: Natronix.9827

Natronix.9827

Anet,

I demand free transfers to my server in compensation.

Lol’d

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Posted by: Silk.8302

Silk.8302

+1 to chaba =P I DEMAND FREE TRANSFERS ALSO!

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Posted by: Deli.1302

Deli.1302

Kinda stupid that servers of higher rank have a cheaper transfer cost than those lower down.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

Kinda stupid that servers of higher rank have a cheaper transfer cost than those lower down.

And they are receiving transfers during this time.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

People who transfer after the season ended to servers with the higher transfer prices should also receive a refund for the difference.

This does nothing though to address the market of transfers. Level the playing field. The higher transfer prices are like a tax on the servers with them. Do you buy that big screen TV from a company in a state with a high sales tax or no sales tax?

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Posted by: Geekfox.4267

Geekfox.4267

Many paid to win. Just accept it.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

Many won for free. Just accept it.

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Posted by: Deli.1302

Deli.1302

Prices will most likely change back on the 2nd or 3rd. It’s still the weekend so nothing could happen anyway.

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Posted by: Geekfox.4267

Geekfox.4267

Many won for free. Just accept it.

Sadly, many didn’t win for free.

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Posted by: Andrew Clear.1750

Andrew Clear.1750

Prices will most likely change back on the 2nd or 3rd. It’s still the weekend so nothing could happen anyway.

I call BS. How many times have they released a new build during friday WvW reset?

They could’ve done it friday, but just decided to say screw you to a ton of servers and people.

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Posted by: Deli.1302

Deli.1302

^This guy lacks basic reading comprehension

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

^This guy lacks basic reading comprehension

I perfectly understand what he means hence my comment.Learn to read + understand what it is youre actually reading.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

Caedmon,

LOL, no man. Relax. I’m on Fort Aspenwood, one of the servers stuck with a higher transfer price yet lower tier at the end of seasons, and I certainly didn’t transfer to “win” for the tourney. FA has always been my home.

Your comment is extremely nonconstructive and misses the entire point of this thread. This thread is about servers competing for post-season transfers and wanting an even playing field in the price. It is completely opposite from the pre-season and tourney price structures: incentivize transfers to lower tiers.

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

I know lots of people that only transfered to the most likely winning server,and hence want to transfer back when the tourney has ended.They have ruined the tourney for what it was meant to be.I didnt miss your point,i just saw you as one of “Those”.

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Posted by: BLKNovember.5620

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We are indeed stuck in a strange place for post season.

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Posted by: Nuzt.7894

Nuzt.7894

Everyone needs to calm down, they will fix it

In 3 months.

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Posted by: Deniara Devious.3948

Deniara Devious.3948

It seems Desolation still has 1000 gem transfer cost = not bad price for EU #1 rated server.

We could use more people and good commanders in the morning and we don’t have any major queues at any hour.

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Posted by: atheria.2837

atheria.2837

Anet,
It is extremely unfair of you to not have adjusted transfer prices right as the season ended. This is the time when players are looking to transfer and my server cannot compete fairly for these transfers (in the free market of transfers) against servers with a transfer price more than double of what it costs to transfer to a server at a higher rank.

I demand free transfers to my server as compensation for this blunder on your part.

Chaba, I hope you will move to HoD – we need people with your type of passion who won’t stand for garbage.

Some of your fellows transferred before the season to many other servers, but HoD can be the one we all wanted FA to BE.

I transferred about 10 days before season from FA… Best thing I ever did in the game.

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

lordkrall.7241

Did it somehow state a price that was lower than what you actually paid when transfer?
Or did you just blindly transfer and assumed the price would be lower than the stated price? Because I really don’t think you have a basis for a refund unless the price stated was incorrect.

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Posted by: echo.2053

echo.2053

Lol Chaba, fa is no where near the point of remotely being considered a " lower tier". The ONLY reason you guys are the tier now is because fa worked so hard to get 3rd place for a repeat of the 1st season.

I love the saying " incentive to transfer to a lower tier server". Since gem transfer started the actual lower tier server transfer cost was lower. No real population shift.

They gave free transfer this time as an in “incentive” for population spread, end result mass people flocked to 2 servers to game the rewards. They by all means deserve to get burned on the way back. I’m saddened that it is only 2x cost, I was hoping a minimum of 3x

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Posted by: kRAVen.4195

kRAVen.4195

All this being said…come transfer to Crystal Desert (currently discounted still)
.

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Posted by: Rimmy.9217

Rimmy.9217

People who transfer after the season ended to servers with the higher transfer prices should also receive a refund for the difference.

No, they really shouldn’t.

They wanted to transfer at that time with that price, so they did. End of transaction.

If prices change afterward, that doesn’t have any bearing on what they paid at the time they paid it.

If the price doubled after they left, should their accounts be tapped for the extra gems until it’s paid off?

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

Eredon Terrace, last of bronze (24th): 1000 gems
Henge of Denravi, first of silver (7th): 1000 gems

Definetely there is somenthing wrong…

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

People who transfer after the season ended to servers with the higher transfer prices should also receive a refund for the difference.

No, they really shouldn’t.

They wanted to transfer at that time with that price, so they did. End of transaction.

If prices change afterward, that doesn’t have any bearing on what they paid at the time they paid it.

If the price doubled after they left, should their accounts be tapped for the extra gems until it’s paid off?

Uh, I think you misunderstand. The tournament is over and they are still charging tournament prices for transfers even though Anet said the prices are for the tournament. And before you argue about this, be aware that Anet gave refunds for transfers right before the tournament started because there was also a difference between what Anet said and what people actually paid.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

Lol Chaba, fa is no where near the point of remotely being considered a " lower tier".

That’s a moot point that has little to do with pointing out that Anet not immediately removing the tournament prices after the tournament is over when the competition for transfers is highest unfairly punishes all servers affected by it.

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Posted by: thaooo.5320

thaooo.5320

The tournament is still going, technically, since it is still possible to do the achievements. You’ll have to wait for the next update where it should be fixed.

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Posted by: Andrew Clear.1750

Andrew Clear.1750

T3 and lower are deemed the lower tiers these days.

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Posted by: melodey.4652

melodey.4652

Anet,
It is extremely unfair of you to not have adjusted transfer prices right as the season ended. This is the time when players are looking to transfer and my server cannot compete fairly for these transfers (in the free market of transfers) against servers with a transfer price more than double of what it costs to transfer to a server at a higher rank.

I demand free transfers to my server as compensation for this blunder on your part.

Yeah, keep demanding WvW-related changes from Anet. Let me know how that works out for you. I suggest you hold your breath!

Anet has no idea what it’s like to fight for a world in bronze league and thus have no comprehension about how unfair it really is down there. (lol @ FA being “lower tier” tho). With all the effort they’ve put into shuffling the WvWers into PvP, massive server imbalance moves (hello free transfers!) and the ridiculous parameters for transfer fees now, I foresee server merges in the future. For now they simply don’t want to deal with it, so they won’t adjust fees until everyone is either stacked into 6 servers or everyone quits the game.

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Posted by: echo.2053

echo.2053

Lol Chaba, fa is no where near the point of remotely being considered a " lower tier".

That’s a moot point that has little to do with pointing out that Anet not immediately removing the tournament prices after the tournament is over when the competition for transfers is highest unfairly punishes all servers affected by it.

LOL its funny how it suddenly becomes a moot point after tourney is over and now your “suddenly” wanting to go back to t2. tanking this time around didnt work out, guess you can try for bronze in season 3

Bandwagoneers deserve to to get burned by spiked gems prices, the offer was too good to be true if you werent planning on transferring long term, thus pay the price. simple as that

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Posted by: Ruru.1302

Ruru.1302

Lol Chaba, fa is no where near the point of remotely being considered a " lower tier".

That’s a moot point that has little to do with pointing out that Anet not immediately removing the tournament prices after the tournament is over when the competition for transfers is highest unfairly punishes all servers affected by it.

LOL its funny how it suddenly becomes a moot point after tourney is over and now your “suddenly” wanting to go back to t2. tanking this time around didnt work out, guess you can try for bronze in season 3

Bandwagoneers deserve to to get burned by spiked gems prices, the offer was too good to be true if you werent planning on transferring long term, thus pay the price. simple as that

How would you know they intentionally tanked? Were you on FA and had access to the warzone? If not, then how would you know they tanked?

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

Lol Chaba, fa is no where near the point of remotely being considered a " lower tier".

That’s a moot point that has little to do with pointing out that Anet not immediately removing the tournament prices after the tournament is over when the competition for transfers is highest unfairly punishes all servers affected by it.

LOL its funny how it suddenly becomes a moot point after tourney is over and now your “suddenly” wanting to go back to t2. tanking this time around didnt work out, guess you can try for bronze in season 3

Yes really what you say about FA’s rank/tier is a moot point because my main argument holds true for other servers in the same situation. Deal with it.

Why transfer to a lower ranked server for 2400 gems in EU when rank 1 Desolation is only 1000 gems?

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

It should be pointed out that Anet’s blog post says tournament pricing is from March 28th to May 30th.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/get-ready-for-wvw-spring-tournament-2014/

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Posted by: echo.2053

echo.2053

Lol Chaba, fa is no where near the point of remotely being considered a " lower tier".

That’s a moot point that has little to do with pointing out that Anet not immediately removing the tournament prices after the tournament is over when the competition for transfers is highest unfairly punishes all servers affected by it.

LOL its funny how it suddenly becomes a moot point after tourney is over and now your “suddenly” wanting to go back to t2. tanking this time around didnt work out, guess you can try for bronze in season 3

Yes really what you say about FA’s rank/tier is a moot point because my main argument holds true for other servers in the same situation. Deal with it.

Oh? had you swept this season like last season, would you still have made this thread? Its a moot point because for months the gem prices have been low for the lower tier servers, yet its been the same exact thing day in day out. Now your just salty after coming into the tourney expecting to pick apart the hod bandwagon, only to get wiped clean each and every match up against them.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

LOL ok echo. Believe what you want because it is clear that you ran out of an argument against the original post a few posts ago. If it wasn’t me posting this, it would be someone else on a server in the same situation posting the same sentiment.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

If Anet wanted to continue to incentivize transfers to lower tier servers through a pricing structure based on WvWvW rank, then they should do that too. Anything would be better than the completely non-sensical current prices.

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Posted by: Lordphantomhive.1256

Lordphantomhive.1256

It should be pointed out that Anet’s blog post says tournament pricing is from March 28th to May 30th.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/get-ready-for-wvw-spring-tournament-2014/

Indeed so what the heck Anet. You didn’t seem to have a problem changing the fees at the start of the tournament, so what the deal here.

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Posted by: echo.2053

echo.2053

LOL ok echo. Believe what you want because it is clear that you ran out of an argument against the original post a few posts ago. If it wasn’t me posting this, it would be someone else on a server in the same situation posting the same sentiment.

What you can’t claim that you would of made this thread if FA had swept again this season? Hmmm who could of guessed that. Go ahead and link your thread from last season post tournament. Im curious how hard you were willing to argue gem pricing then.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

No echo,

Instead how about you refute that the tournament pricing post-season makes no sense and is unfair.

Can’t do it without stating your distaste for other players? Didn’t think so.

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Posted by: echo.2053

echo.2053

You got me there, I can not argue that in good faith mainly because I’ve been against the tournaments since day 1 of tournament 1. The ONLY thing they do is encourage stacking stacking and more stacking.

You use this word “unfair” but I don’t think you fully understand its meaning. Using silver league servers and excluding hod, which servers would have provided FA a relatively close match up that would be down to the wire at the end? I bet that match up would still be fa winning by a minimum of 60k, yet its unfair for you to have a high transfer cost.

You have a better way to put an end to bandwagonning, since they clearly won’t stop this season bs?

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

You have a better way to put an end to bandwagonning, since they clearly won’t stop this season bs?

Making the costs adjust everytime a server change ranks would be a start… Then the prices should be in accord with the entire ladder and not separated by leagues. Lower Silver should be more expensive than top bronze (people left bronze servers to stack on HoD due free transfers).

If people want to stack on lower tiers, it means population is leaving the higher and stacked ones to somewhere else…

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Posted by: ThunderPanda.1872

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Low tier server(not the stack to silver league from bronze BS like before s2) seriously need free transfer, and I’m talking about the last 3-4 servers. It may seem NA time is sort of healthy at the moment(weekends at least), but you’d be lucky to see more than 10 people in off hour coverage in all 4 maps.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

which servers would have provided FA a relatively close match up that would be down to the wire at the end?

Again, that’s not what this thread is about. It’s about the tournament pricing not ending at the end of the tournament, May 30th, like Anet said, and the unfair effect is has on servers post-season.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

You have a better way to put an end to bandwagonning, since they clearly won’t stop this season bs?

Making the costs adjust everytime a server change ranks would be a start… Then the prices should be in accord with the entire ladder and not separated by leagues.

Yes, that would be a start. Previous pricing was scaled based on total server population, but really it is the WvWvW population that has reason to transfer servers, especially now with megaservers.

Anet still needs to end the tournament pricing when they said they would and provide some sort of compensation for servers stuck in this predicament of being more expensive than a higher ranked server.

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Posted by: Bucket Lips.5017

Bucket Lips.5017

A bit off topic (my apologies Chaba) but this is a suggestion for Anet to sort their kitten out…….

I have an idea on how to even out server population. It would take a few weeks but I believe the population would even out for all servers.

Servers are already ranked from 1-24, why not make the gem transfer cost reflect the servers ranking. For example JQ transfer cost would be 2400 gems, TC 2300 gems, BG 2200 and so on down to the, 23 ranked server would be 100 gems and the 24 ranked server would be 0 gem transfer cost.

The gem transfer cost would be updated each Friday after reset to reflect a server either moving up or down in ranking and the gem transfer cost would be be reflected accordingly.

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

A bit off topic (my apologies Chaba) but this is a suggestion for Anet to sort their kitten out…….

I have an idea on how to even out server population. It would take a few weeks but I believe the population would even out for all servers.

Servers are already ranked from 1-24, why not make the gem transfer cost reflect the servers ranking. For example JQ transfer cost would be 2400 gems, TC 2300 gems, BG 2200 and so on down to the, 23 ranked server would be 100 gems and the 24 ranked server would be 0 gem transfer cost.

The gem transfer cost would be updated each Friday after reset to reflect a server either moving up or down in ranking and the gem transfer cost would be be reflected accordingly.

I’d double the ammounts to discourage even more stacking on top servers… Who would pay over 4000 gems to stack on T1?

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Posted by: melodey.4652

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A bit off topic (my apologies Chaba) but this is a suggestion for Anet to sort their kitten out…….

I have an idea on how to even out server population. It would take a few weeks but I believe the population would even out for all servers.

Servers are already ranked from 1-24, why not make the gem transfer cost reflect the servers ranking. For example JQ transfer cost would be 2400 gems, TC 2300 gems, BG 2200 and so on down to the, 23 ranked server would be 100 gems and the 24 ranked server would be 0 gem transfer cost.

The gem transfer cost would be updated each Friday after reset to reflect a server either moving up or down in ranking and the gem transfer cost would be be reflected accordingly.

I’d double the ammounts to discourage even more stacking on top servers… Who would pay over 4000 gems to stack on T1?

I think you guys are missing the point that Anet wants you to pay gems to transfer. They don’t want to remove the incentive to click on that gemstore purchase button. If they raise the price to the point where no one wants to transfer, they lose out on the profits. It’s the band-aid mentality they have with regards to keeping their players logging in and purchasing gemstore items/transferring for the short time vs keeping them around 6 months to a year from now. We (the choir) know that giving the hardcore playerbase a reason to stick around long term (like actually doctoring up WvW to the point of legitimacy) is more profitable to them as a company, as we would still be around to purchase stuff in the gemstore. At this rate though, they are basically banking on maintaining a brand new playerbase and keeping whatever hardcore PvE population there is in this game in order to fulfill that bankroll, because they are losing WvWers and PvPers left and right. To them as a company, the one person who pays 2000 gems to transfer to JQ for seasons is more valuable to them than the “hardcore” person who loyally stayed on Eredon Terrace. So they cater to the casual. We should expect nothing less after nearly two years of this.

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Posted by: Rimmy.9217

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Lol Chaba, fa is no where near the point of remotely being considered a " lower tier".

That’s a moot point that has little to do with pointing out that Anet not immediately removing the tournament prices after the tournament is over when the competition for transfers is highest unfairly punishes all servers affected by it.

LOL its funny how it suddenly becomes a moot point after tourney is over and now your “suddenly” wanting to go back to t2. tanking this time around didnt work out, guess you can try for bronze in season 3

Bandwagoneers deserve to to get burned by spiked gems prices, the offer was too good to be true if you werent planning on transferring long term, thus pay the price. simple as that

It’s a pity that servers don’t get to vote on people who were formerly associated with them returning. While not everybody who moves on and ends up back is a bad person, no server needs bandwagoners. And if you recognise them, it would be nice to keep them from queuing up your WvW when people who won’t squirrel off are happy to play instead.

/slightlytongueincheek

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Posted by: Rimmy.9217

Rimmy.9217

You have a better way to put an end to bandwagonning, since they clearly won’t stop this season bs?

Making the costs adjust everytime a server change ranks would be a start… Then the prices should be in accord with the entire ladder and not separated by leagues. Lower Silver should be more expensive than top bronze (people left bronze servers to stack on HoD due free transfers).

If people want to stack on lower tiers, it means population is leaving the higher and stacked ones to somewhere else…

And make transfers cost cash – no converting gold for server transfers.

Possibly exception if you’ve never transferred before. If you jump around all the time, then I have no sympathy for your gem costs, ever.

I’d also like to see transfers locked after a new tournament is announced, but before any details about the system ANet plans to use are given. Taking it further, I’d like to see the day after a tournament is announced be the last day before servers are locked.

Decide quickly, flighty bandwagoners.

Edit: added additional hurdles for selfish people at tournaments

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