Please redo the uplevel boosts for very low level toons.
Level 2 characters are running around with 3500+ armor and/or 3500+ power. Its ridiculous, please fix it.
Uplevels will always be significantly weaker than level 80s. If you get killed by an uplevel, it’s a massive statement on your lack of skill. Perhaps that’s why you’re complaining?
No, I’m complaining because the scaling is absurd and should be fixed. I don’t really ever play 1v1 in wvw other than chance encounters running from one place to the next.
They’re weaker than if they were level 80 the only reason to want them nerfed is to make it harder on them, not even gaining anything out of it yourself, which makes you by definition a hater.
At level 2, they have no weapon swap, no utilities, no elite, and no traits. Yes, they can get nice stats, but if you consistently lose to them, you’re doing something wrong. For example, level 2’s have next to no condition removal, so just about any condition build will beat them.
The poster is right… you can do things like make a lvl 2 ranger with over 30khp, 2k condi dmg.
So that’s a lie.
Post a screenshot and I’ll believe it.
3400 Attack, without much optimization.
A worthy foe. Look at all those beautiful locked skills. Getting hit by 1,4k vapor blade surely hurts.
I usually fight upleveleds while I am naked to try balancing somewhat the fight :/
A worthy foe. Look at all those beautiful locked skills. Getting hit by 1,4k vapor blade surely hurts.
I usually fight upleveleds while I am naked to try balancing somewhat the fight :/
The point of this screenshot was to prove the stats of an uplvl can be modified to a high point. Also, I’m wearing a scepter.
A worthy foe. Look at all those beautiful locked skills. Getting hit by 1,4k vapor blade surely hurts.
I usually fight upleveleds while I am naked to try balancing somewhat the fight :/
The point of this screenshot was to prove the stats of an uplvl can be modified to a high point. Also, I’m wearing a scepter.
Lets meet up in WvW, I bet I down that in 2 seconds, and do 3-4k auto attack crits. People like this are nothing but rally bots, and I agree with the other posters that someone getting killed by an uplevel in a 1v1 encounter is someone who really needs to look at their game play. Sure, you can make them do some pretty numbers, but still far and away from someone who has access to level 80 gear stats, traits and runes/sigils. So if you are losing to them, you would stand no chance vs a level 80 char.
Showing you can make numbers in the stat window means nothing to how strong this character would be vs a normal level 80.
A worthy foe. Look at all those beautiful locked skills. Getting hit by 1,4k vapor blade surely hurts.
I usually fight upleveleds while I am naked to try balancing somewhat the fight :/
The point of this screenshot was to prove the stats of an uplvl can be modified to a high point. Also, I’m wearing a scepter.
Lets meet up in WvW, I bet I down that in 2 seconds, and do 3-4k auto attack crits. People like this are nothing but rally bots, and I agree with the other posters that someone getting killed by an uplevel in a 1v1 encounter is someone who really needs to look at their game play. Sure, you can make them do some pretty numbers, but still far and away from someone who has access to level 80 gear stats, traits and runes/sigils. So if you are losing to them, you would stand no chance vs a level 80 char.
Showing you can make numbers in the stat window means nothing to how strong this character would be vs a normal level 80.
The OP said that stats like this were possible and all Jedge did was show a screenshot of said stats. Does that mean a level 80 can’t beat that? No, it simply means that those stats are achievable as an up leveled character which is what was being debated. Jedge never said an up leveled could beat a level 80 in exotics. OP perhaps implied it but regardless of that the stats are achievable. In any case scaling is fine and or needs a boost in def actually to allow up leveled characters to not be rally bots.
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The poster is right… you can do things like make a lvl 2 ranger with over 30khp, 2k condi dmg.
So that’s a lie.
Post a screenshot and I’ll believe it.
3400 Attack, without much optimization.
that ele poses no more of a threat to me than a deer. but she could still help aoe walls and siege and throw water and fire fields and some CC’s so at least she can contribute to the fight, which is a good thing.
if you’re not level 80 you’re missing traits, skills, armor stats, weapon stats, and strong runes or sigils – plenty kitten enough already and anything more would be terrible – and that’s coming from someone who hasn’t played on an upleveled toon in months.
I agree with all the ones that said it was fine.
If you change this, how would people play in wvw before 80 ? It’s a good thing they have upscaled stats, if they didn’t, they wouldn’t stand a chance, get frustrated and stop playing the game.
Some people only play in wvw, even for levelling. If you change the stats upscaling, they will just quit. Is that what you want ? Less players ? O_o
i never leveled anything on wvw. it is called wvw for a reason and by leveling in wvw you make your server weaker somehow. not to mention it is kind of insult to other server. most of all i worship efficiency with a religious zeal and i think leveling in wvw is not an efficient method since you will be constantly rolled by every lv 80 character and your server will lose battle point because of you not to mention waste of time to run around taking objective ( if you leech off the zerg to level, believe me there is a special place in the hell for you)
i really don’t think they should upscale the status for low levels. players will always try to exploit some generosity such as this so its better not to encourage them to do so
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The OP said that stats like this were possible and all Jedge did was show a screenshot of said stats. Does that mean a level 80 can’t beat that? No, it simply means that those stats are achievable as an up leveled character which is what was being debated. Jedge never said an up leveled could beat a level 80 in exotics. OP perhaps implied it but regardless of that the stats are achievable. In any case scaling is fine and or needs a boost in def actually to allow up leveled characters to not be rally bots.
No one has debated you can get stat numbers, my point is that Jedge was trying to prove it can be done, when no one is questioning it, rather, we are making points to the OP’s remark that uplevels need a nerf in stats. And the only reason to complain about something like this for WvW is because they got beat by one, while myself, every time I see a upleveled I think easy bag or in a zerg I think “oh look, a rally bot for all my down teammates”. There is no reason to nerf upleveled scaling, because as it is, they are already incredibility weak, without taking into account lack of utility skills.
Rather, I would like to see WvW more like PvP where you become a true level 80. No more grinding to hit 80 in PvE before I can play the game mode I prefer.
Yes they have high stats…but they have no utility skills, the 1 starting heal, no traits, and just a single weapon. They’re heavily kitten at that level, and the stats being what they are is to help offset that so they can at least do something in WvW. Only after they start gaining levels do the stats take a massive dive. It was designed like this for a reason, you’re a fool if you think anybody thinks it’s OP when they have 0 defenses in terms of usable skills.
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wow u are really whining about that?
they have no traits. no weapon swap etc! no elite no nothing. at least this gives them a little chance to play wvw. without it there is no point till lvl 80. wow some people are really jealous of anything, even an uplevel?!?!? wow just wow!
point is u got your toon u got your lvl 80 and exotics/ascended and all traits and skills u need, upl levels dont. so why on earth would u complain about up leveling? u just wanna 1 shot them is that it?
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I have a level 20 that I pimped out just for running around doing killshots and the stat stacking is too high, imo. The amount of damage I do is crazy and with the high mobility and careful play I can generally escape to safety if I am cautious.
Sure I am not going to win a 1v1 against a decent player, but really they are in short supply and if I play like a sniper I get plenty of kills.
I think low level players defensive skills should stack high, perhaps even higher, but offense imo is too stacked at these levels. Does make me giggle like a school girl when I play it though.
wow u are really whining about that?
they have no traits. no weapon swap etc! no elite no nothing. at least this gives them a little chance to play wvw. without it there is no point till lvl 80. wow some people are really jealous of anything, even an uplevel?!?!? wow just wow!
point is u got your toon u got your lvl 80 and exotics/ascended and all traits and skills u need, upl levels dont. so why on earth would u complain about up leveling? u just wanna 1 shot them is that it?
I am unaware of exactly how stat scaling works in WvW from level 1-80, so it is possible that a low level “twinked” may have better stats than a mid/higher level (someone not yet level 80). But you should not be complaining about, or losing to “twinks” on your level 80. I am happier if low levels are able to put up somewhat of a fight rather than being free kills.
