Guild Wars 2

I know t1 is pretty blobby and at times skill lag is out of control but at least theres always fights. I mean skill lag will eventually be fixed but can you fix the bottom servers? Are there even commanders on the t 7/8 servers?

OMG trolly troll trolls – Off in the bad servers where the tumbleweeds roll and the twitchers and cannibals roam? Really if you have no idea about the lower tiers you need to come get a taste while transfers are free.

How about low tier server =/= bad server?

Aeolus.3615:

How about low tier server =/= bad server?

because they are based on your performance in WvW? I mean if they were good wouldnt they be higher than tier 8?

Dabrixmgp.4758:

Aeolus.3615:

How about low tier server =/= bad server?

because they are based on your performance in WvW? I mean if they were good wouldnt they be higher than tier 8?

It’s not based on performance, it’s based on population. I mean, if they had more numbers, wouldn’t they be higher than tier 8?

Of course there are commanders.

You can find videos of gameplay in low tiers and see for yourself. Here’s an example video of one of my server’s guilds from last Friday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmRZbIMJoeQ

I feel like this attitude is all over and it’s just so misplaced. There are absolutely commanders, there’s large scale fights, there’s drawn-out sieges, there’s roamers, there’s everything there is in larger population servers except the blobs aren’t as big or relied on as much.

The difference between a “good” and a “bad” server is almost entirely coverage.

So a bad “bad” server may only have a few dozen people online at midnight while a “good” server will still be packed full at that hour.

That’s the only difference. Anything said about skill, commander quality etc. is purely anecdotal.

Low Tier = Less Coverage/Numbers
Low Tier =/= Bad tactics, coordination, or player skill

In fact, when EotM first came out, we quickly learned that low tier guilds can kill high tier guilds, no problem. There is skill in every tier.

this thread is what happens when you take a “skill” rating and measure population/coverage with it…

god help us.

Honestly, I like fighting the lower ranked servers better. Maybe because there’s just lower population density, but I tend to get a lot more good 1v1 fights against servers like ET and FC than pretty much anyone above them. I miss fighting you guys =(

I came from CD. The only diffrence from T1 vs T4 below is coverage, that it.
The skill is there…
I smell troll

Dawntree.7246:

Dabrixmgp.4758:

Are there even commanders on the t 7/8 servers?

No, we don’t have commanders. Basically we fight against sentries. The really skilled guilds can flip camps. Once I got inside a tower, it was wonderful! The gate, the supply hut. I can’t even tell how it was killing the lord!
There are few who claim to have been inside a keep, but I don’t really trust them.
We still don’t know what is inside SM. It’s way above our skill level At reset we have people from the 3 servers banging their heads against the castle gate, but nobody can damage it enough apparently… but we’ll get it, I promise!

Thank you for that. You win one internetz today.

If you go lower tiers server and drop superior ram other players think that you are god or something and start to worship you. It’s same than going back in time and and show what mobile phone can do. They think that there is small people inside.

Dawntree.7246:

Dabrixmgp.4758:

Are there even commanders on the t 7/8 servers?

No, we don’t have commanders. Basically we fight against sentries. The really skilled guilds can flip camps. Once I got inside a tower, it was wonderful! The gate, the supply hut. I can’t even tell how it was killing the lord!
There are few who claim to have been inside a keep, but I don’t really trust them.
We still don’t know what is inside SM. It’s way above our skill level At reset we have people from the 3 servers banging their heads against the castle gate, but nobody can damage it enough apparently… but we’ll get it, I promise!

EDIT: almost forgot! If we see enemies, we make sure to not make eye contact and we run for our lives. Usually after seeing an enemy we stay inside citadel for a good 20 minutes.

awesome response ..laughed so hard at this

Junkpile.7439:

If you go lower tiers server and drop superior ram other players think that you are god or something and start to worship you. It’s same than going back in time and and show what mobile phone can do. They think that there is small people inside.

this one is pretty good too!

and this is why people don’t like TC anymore.

I played on Yak’s Bend during season 1 when the hype was still high, and after the season ended. People may claim that the servers aren’t dead, but when compared to t1/2 servers they are. It is all a matter of perspective. Most of the “zerg” fights aren’t map blobs, they are server blobs in 1 map. 2/4 Maps are normally empty.

So yes, relative to t1/2 lower tier servers are dead.

Actual screenshot in T4 server:

“Whats life like on the bad servers?”

Well let me tell you, blobs are everywhere, the lag is horrendous and the queues endless.
On the bright side, my “1” key is now stuck so all I have to do is click the icon & autoattack away.

O wait ..

So, what’s life like being a bad player?

I hear that they have fun on blackgate…..

Dabrixmgp.4758:

I mean skill lag will eventually be fixed…

The troll is real.

titanlectro.5029:

Low Tier =/= Bad tactics, coordination, or player skill

Yeah no, get some experience on both kinds of servers some time. The level of server-wide organisation dramatically drops as you descend the ladder. Also upscaled players and/or those without exotics/ascended gear are much more common the lower you go.

You will find organized hardcore guilds of equal capability on both ends of the ladder and all in between, but the upper servers simply got more of them, which leads to a raised overall player/zerg skill.

Atleast that was the case when I was still active last year.

Jamais vu.5284:

You will find organized hardcore guilds of equal capability on both ends of the ladder and all in between, but the upper servers simply got more of them, which leads to a raised overall player/zerg skill.

So, more people means higher tier. Got it.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Jamais vu.5284:

You will find organized hardcore guilds of equal capability on both ends of the ladder and all in between, but the upper servers simply got more of them, which leads to a raised overall player/zerg skill.

So, more people means higher tier. Got it.

This isn’t what I said or what entailed my post tho.

Jamais vu.5284:

This isn’t what I said or what entailed my post tho.

what?

Jamais vu.5284:

the upper servers simply got more of them

Jamais vu seems to believe that as you go up in tiers the number of skilled players/groups increases, but the number of unskilled players/groups remains constant. This is based on anecdotal evidence from a year ago that he believes is relevant. Apparently unskilled players never bandwagon on to high tier servers. Perfectly logical.

Waffler.1257:

Jamais vu seems to believe that as you go up in tiers the number of skilled players/groups increases, but the number of unskilled players/groups remains constant. This is based on anecdotal evidence from a year ago that he believes is relevant. Apparently unskilled players never bandwagon on to high tier servers. Perfectly logical.

I like how you sarcastically postface your warped description of what I said, as if you subconsciously realized how “perfectly logical” your preceding analysis was.
I agree. “Perfectly logical” what you wrote there.

If you think I even remotely implied the upper tiers aren’t stacked to hell or that pop isn’t the most important factor you are insane. That’s a false dilemma.

I do not see how anyone can not rely exclusively on anecdotal evidence in this matter.

Well I just transferred to T9 Euro server Vabbi to see how things are here. The WvW is pretty good actually but the PVE areas like Gendarran Fields Vigil quite are VERY empty. I only saw 1 other person next to the bank. Compare this to T1 Euro Server Seafarer’s Rest. At least 10 people near the bank area on the same map same time (I guested).

I normally just roam alone and fight whoever I see while flipping camps. Sadly most the people I fight are upleveled and die almost instantly.

Jamais vu.5284:

Waffler.1257:

Jamais vu seems to believe that as you go up in tiers the number of skilled players/groups increases, but the number of unskilled players/groups remains constant. This is based on anecdotal evidence from a year ago that he believes is relevant. Apparently unskilled players never bandwagon on to high tier servers. Perfectly logical.

I like how you sarcastically postface your warped description of what I said, as if you subconsciously realized how “perfectly logical” your preceding analysis was.
I agree. “Perfectly logical” what you wrote there.

If you think I even remotely implied the upper tiers aren’t stacked to hell or that pop isn’t the most important factor you are insane. That’s a false dilemma.

I do not see how anyone can not rely exclusively on anecdotal evidence in this matter.

Your words boyo, “raised overall player/zerg skill” implies a higher proportion of skilled players in higher tiers. Unless of course you are just terrible at math and had no idea what you were saying. Nothing sarcastic about my post either, maybe you’re terrible with the words too.

Isaac.6041:

Well I just transferred to T9 Euro server Vabbi to see how things are here. The WvW is pretty good actually but the PVE areas like Gendarran Fields Vigil quite are VERY empty. I only saw 1 other person next to the bank. Compare this to T1 Euro Server Seafarer’s Rest. At least 10 people near the bank area on the same map same time (I guested).

Welcome to Vabbi.

If you transfer after your 1 week limit is up, we will forget your name.

If you stay, have fun!