Guild Wars 2

Almost every other temporary content gives us dailies to complete to help us complete the meta achievement. Why not WvW Seasons? To get the reward chest key requires more than double the amount of time and effort than the normal LS categories, although of course that likely varies depending on server (SoR here…we’ve had a rough season, to say the least), but I feel confident in saying that the numbers are MUCH larger and the objectives significantly harder to obtain than in PvE meta achievements.

I don’t have much time to play the game anymore, and I like to split my time between WvW and PvE, which is an option I now don’t feel like I can do and still be rewarded for. If the daily WvW achievements counted for the meta, I think it would help a lot of people play the way they want to, without feeling like they weren’t getting the reward from it.

Additionally, I think it would help to alleviate all the fussing there was about PvE players flooding into WvW for the achievement and “ruining” everything.

Because there’s 3 wvw dailies every day and 49 days in the league?… Mag says key didn’t require much effort. You had that hard a time with your inflated server?

There could be other options, like making completing the dailies a category by themselves (like with monthlies).

1- SoR is far from inflated
2- Our WvW focused players had no issue getting the key within the first 2 weeks (generally the first) and that without going our way.

The key is meant to validate minimal WvW participation, I don’t see why anyone from any server (ok, maybe the bottom of bronze, and even then) would complain they cant get it as easily as the LS crap.

1- WvW =/= LS
2- 7 weeks (WvW) vs 2 weeks (PvE)
3- Meant to actually validate you play WvW, yeah, they are hard when you run by yourself trying to “complete content”

Lastly, also being from SoR, server teamspeak with the commanders & havoc squads is always being promoted for everyone to join in order to better the servers performance and everyone to contribute. In your case, it’s simply that you have not invested yourself (enough) in WvW & most probably disregarded the WvW community and ran around doing your thing, hunting the achievements even though it might not be the best strategical move at the time & finding it hard because you rejected the community’s support.

And all this “fussing” about PvE that WvW players of many servers complained about is players that jump in and disregard others diminishing the performance of said server, taking up space while not accomplishing anything and having a hard time getting the achievements they were hunting for.
Again, from an SoR point of view ALL NEW PLAYERS that were honestly interested in WvW were WELCOMED to interact with the community and learn about WvW & join in on the fun with those of us who were on the maps (and generally got their stuff done for the key).

These achievements should never have been places under Living World category… (well, who knows if it would’ve made a difference)

katubug.6378:

There could be other options, like making completing the dailies a category by themselves (like with monthlies).

I think some people had suggested just that, completing an X amount of WvW dailies over the 7 weeks… though that would only check how often you jump into WvW and not how much you participate. (few minutes ever day VS a few hours contributing to objectives every other day – not necessarily needing to log in every day)

Honestly the achievements were ok, there were only a few like the supply one that asked for a lot and promoted poor use of supply in some cases

Okay for those that say the meta is easy to do in a few weeks… Tell me what is the best way to go about getting the last few…

I have left: 225 Dollys, 225 Sentries, 100 camps, 50 merc camps.

All of these seem pretty horrifying to grind out. I am 51/100 on the camps, and I guess I can stomach getting those done in a few nights but… I fail to see how this meta is supposed to represent “minimal wvw contribution” or whatever. I join larger groups in EB for 10-20 hours a week and I still only have like 45/225 dollys and around 75/225 sentries…

Stx.4857:

Okay for those that say the meta is easy to do in a few weeks… Tell me what is the best way to go about getting the last few…

I have left: 225 Dollys, 225 Sentries, 100 camps, 50 merc camps.

All of these seem pretty horrifying to grind out. I am 51/100 on the camps, and I guess I can stomach getting those done in a few nights but… I fail to see how this meta is supposed to represent “minimal wvw contribution” or whatever. I join larger groups in EB for 10-20 hours a week and I still only have like 45/225 dollys and around 75/225 sentries…

I dont see why you are having trouble with camps, they always flip to resupply groups (specially those “mid bl”) and far from WP in EB.

Dolly, Sentries & merc camps are the 3 achievements most ppl skip.
500 supply, in repairs was 10/day if you played every day (which is not much and generally put more when defending a structure from multiple attacks)

And even if you dont like the supply one, you have the other 15 that can be done pretty easily. If you are on a server that cant capture SM, then you should be attacked enough to do the supply one.

Player kills is a joke, JPs are a joke too, thats already 6. 10 keeps @ 10-20h/week & the towers should not be a problem. guards & camps are easy too. Just run in circles capping mid (even without that mid is easy). This brings you to 11 already. World ranker & demolition expert & big spender → 14/15. Last one that is a bit longer is as stated, SM or Supply repair based on your server → 15/15

I respect that dedicated WvWers don’t like the idea of others getting rewarded when we put in less effort than they do. However, a living story is a living story. A WvW-centric person can put in a small amount of effort into PvE to access the living story there, get the meta achievement and all associated rewards that come with it. No one complains about that.

People play WvW because they like it, same for the people who play PvP or PvE. Everyone likes getting rewarded, and it’s much better incentive to get people to try new playstyles and new things if you can feel rewarded for doing so.

I’m currently at 8/16 achievements for this season, and have nothing to show for it besides some extra achievement points. I have put a LOT more of my time and effort into playing WvW lately, but I feel stymied that I’ve only just gotten halfway there with ~4 days to finish (and of the 8 I have, 6 of them are the “easy” ones!).

I’m not interested in attacking anyone via this thread, nor shaming them for whatever playstyle they adopt, however dedicated or casual. My goal is simply to make a suggestion that I, at least, thought would help both sides of the playstyle coin.

Stx.4857:

Okay for those that say the meta is easy to do in a few weeks… Tell me what is the best way to go about getting the last few…

I have left: 225 Dollys, 225 Sentries, 100 camps, 50 merc camps.

All of these seem pretty horrifying to grind out. I am 51/100 on the camps, and I guess I can stomach getting those done in a few nights but… I fail to see how this meta is supposed to represent “minimal wvw contribution” or whatever. I join larger groups in EB for 10-20 hours a week and I still only have like 45/225 dollys and around 75/225 sentries…

100 camps is easy for a roamer
225 sentries are pretty easy too for roamers: did 100 on ~5-6 hours of play.

My advice: zerg less and get yourself a group of 5 to roam with. I finished everything, apart from the merc camps cause I don’t play on EB a lot.

Player Character.9467:

Because there’s 3 wvw dailies every day and 49 days in the league?… Mag says key didn’t require much effort. You had that hard a time with your inflated server?

They could always add a secondary repeatable meta-achievement with 0 achievement points just for that.

“WvW Regular”.
Complete 21 daily WvW achievements.

Every time WvW regular is completed: 1 point towards meta.

Ding. 7 points towards meta from dailies. 8 to go.