Guild Wars 2

I have a couple reasons:

1. During seasons I commanded alot and it burnt me out.
2. Alot of the people I used to WvW with have left the game or quit WvWing
3. I started PvPing and love the fact that I can always find a fight there
4. The people in WvW have become burnt out to so often times anger is replaced with what used to be laughter.

My reasons are that my laptop and internet can’t run wvw very well at all like the other game modes, (I get like 8fps and a good ammount of lag) and that it just got boring and old and GvG was always too unofficial to seem worth it to me.

Simple answer – Too man zergs now. Back when I joined, WvW was fun because you could go from duel to duel all day long. These days, you can’t roam around w/o running into the zerg train.

Just not fun getting 20+ folks attacking you.

I didn’t stop completly but I had a long none-wvw break. I stopped because the Meta wasn’t developing anymore. The Meta still hasn’t developed further. No need for me to adapt to anything new. It seems that many player even lost some lessons of the past, like eles having a scepter to removing siege really fast without wasting a big CD.

People complain about the stability changes and how bad the removal of those boring buffs is. I can’t wait to see all the complains about new traits and skills and specs to be overpowered when the only problem is, that they are unable to adapt after 2 years with only slight changes.

Lots of reasons…

To sum it up nicely I would say that the Guilds Wars 2 end game was not intended to be World vs World….

Just about all patches are PvE and Living Story based

I took a 6 month break form WvW because I was tired of having nothing and I also got bored with Anets lack of interest in this game mode.

Immensus.9732:

I know a good amount of players that still play the game, and when they first started all they wanted to do is WvW. no wonder since its concept (fantasy setting massive scale pvp) is something good. But many of just stopped WvWing including myself. I feel like doing the same over and over and nothing excites me any more. Why is that? How is it possible such a fun concept to feel like chore for so many pvp lovers ?

I haven’t given up yet, but I’m close to it.

First of all, you’re mainly just following a commander, which has somewhat limited appeal.

No offence to (most of) the commanders, they’re mostly doing a pretty good job, under the circumstances.

But, even if you’re OK with that, which I mainly am (kind of), then there is all the corruption.

As it’s a 3 world thing, as opposed to a 2 world one, that opens the door to unscrupulous people making deals and controlling outcomes.

The two other worlds are, intentionally, joining forces against my server, ATM.

You watch them and they are sometimes, literally, on top of each other and not fighting each other, at all.

It’s ridiculous, because even though my server did seem stronger than the other two, when I first started playing, it was (obviously) never twice as strong.

So, inevitably, we are now losing all the time, as it’s constantly 2 worlds vs 1.

If games aren’t made to be fair and properly policed, so they remain fair, of course most people stop playing them.

Kartel.2561:

It just seems too pointless. There is no real value in owning properties. Nothing to be gained and nothing to lose. It’s unscripted so in that sense it’s still better than PVE, but it’s also so routine it’s all too similar. You’re not there to wage war, you’re not there “for” anything. Just running around the map trading castles based on ppt.

Gain a castle? So what, it has no value. Time spent defending it is time spent not seeking out more ppt. Just go ahead and lose it, you’ll grab it again next time around, and it’s pretty inconsequential either way. So goes the routine.

It’s too structured, limited, and artificial. I’d prefer something more free-form. Not so point-driven, and routine. Something with politics, alliances, consequences, etc. WvW, like the rest of the game, just isn’t that deep of an experience. I was excited about it in the beginning, back when guilds bothered to claim castles and so forth, before it became apparent how shallow it all was. Now it’s just “doing the rounds” for no particular reason.

It can be nice to romp around in a bit, but it otherwise just doesn’t feel important in the slightest. There’s no “cause” for me to serve and care about, and there’s no variety. Always the same maps with the same tedious routines.

Pretty similiar here. I still like to go zerg around or roaming (rarely cuz of perma ganking and chasing). It’s more interesting and more fun to “farm/gather” money this way than run dungeons/SW chest farm or any other pve stuff for me.
Playing for points though is total waste of time anymore in my opinion. Like the quoted person say, there is no ‘reason’ for it, plus all the flaws and imbalances on top of that. It was somehow fun when the game was new, but with time it stopped attracting ppl.
Maybe if there was some feeling of progression, for example you gather tokens weekly, amount based on which place your server ended up in, then exchange them for some skins or other utilities, foods, new siege skins… Ofc, first the population balance would have to be solved. Free transfers for short time then close transfers and change them to different system like ‘invitation only’ or something + servers based on WvW population instead of overall population? Are devs reading ppl ideas? Sometimes this feeling that there is a lot of stuff written, but it is not seen by anyone.

My reasons in no particular order:

1. Stale maps / fights.
2. PPT / timezone issues – I cant fight people taking my stuff while I am working / sleeping.
3. Stale meta- Though that is getting a bit shaken and may even change, its still same for now.
4. Server population issues – got sick and tired of being outnumbered 80%+ of the times.
5. A-nets ignorance / lack of action with regards to hacks / exploits / etc.
6. A-nets ignorance / lack of action to help out lower and mid tier servers with regards to server population / timezone population imbalances.

I stopped wvw because no risk, no effort is required: only free reward and more free reward for that is all. Include: Pvp and Pve.

It only took me couple of months to see that: not 2-3 years like other players who refuse to see that or in-denial of it.

I remember my first experience in wvw: 1 minute in wvw: i was instant down by a invisible profession than i was instant killed in down-state and still could not see what killed me.

So what did i do: i post my experience in the forum want to know what happened and why there was no down-state skills to attack that invisible/stealth profession- there was none.

That is what the first “nail-in-the-coffin” withdraw of playing wvw.

I say to myself include other players: did Arena net advertize Guild Wars 2 to be friendly to new players? so where is it? Than i realize it was a lie and i feel deception because after more months playing wvw/pvp: i see all the evidence of it. So i finally stopped wasting my time be lie to and be deception.

I tell myself, i will not waste my time anymore for believing the lie. I already have 2 infractions already: why? for wanting change: fun and challenge and risk-reward, that is all. Yes! only for that and Arena net punish me.

So why should i continue playing this game? So why should i buy the expansion if this is what Arena net do? How about if i get more infractions for wanting same in the new expansion? Is that fair?

Wanting change for good should not be punished but be appreciated. Why waste time for being with a company who want to punish me for want anything good? Why waste time for being with a company who want to punish me for want effort and hard-work first before reward? Why waste time for being with a company who want to punish me for want fun for Guild Wars 2?

I finally research: 2-3 years: a lot of player who want change for good: effort, hard-work= reward were punished also. I wish i investigated earlier and never play this game at all with a company who only want bad things for their games and punish any thing that want good for it.

Did i quit? No! When Arena net appreciate players who want good change and remove all of their infractions and make serious change to the game: i will play again and take seriously.

" Everyone want the truth but no one wants to be honest "

" We learned about honesty and integrity – that the truth matters… that you don’t take shortcuts or play by your own set of rules.. "

" It isn’t good to punish those who aren’t guilty- just because they are honest "

" Once honesty start talking, honesty become a threat "

" Honest hearts produce honest actions "

" The roots of all goodness lie in the soil of appreciation for goodness "

" If there is no struggle, there is no progress "

( My last punishment is coming: I took risk- only want good things for game. I will always continue to believe hard-work, effort and risk come first before reward and fun-. go to where they are. So it is ok, This will be my last post: take care players, it was good/bad experience- advice and i learned a lot and still learning. Take care all players )

No server population balance leading to stale blowouts week after week.

It’s not like Anet don’t know about it, the very first CDI was on this very topic. But they’ve done literally nothing with that feedback in the years since, and they’re doing literally nothing to address it in the expansion either.

So why should I care about a game mode that the devs themselves plainly don’t care about either?

DarkSyze.8627:

I finally research: 2-3 years: a lot of player who want change for good: effort, hard-work= reward were punished also. I wish i investigated earlier and never play this game at all with a company who only want bad things for their games and punish any thing that want good for it.

Did i quit? No! When Arena net appreciate players who want good change and remove all of their infractions and make serious change to the game: i will play again and take seriously.

( My last punishment is coming: I took risk- only want good things for game. I will always continue to believe hard-work, effort and risk come first before reward and fun-. go to where they are. So it is ok, This will be my last post: take care players, it was good/bad experience- advice and i learned a lot and still learning. Take care all players )

+1 +1 +1!

I totally, totally feel ur pain bro.

• No rewards for ppting except 1-3 silver and 300 karma…wow.
• No rewards for winning and position u take at the end of week.
• No support from Anet for Roamers
• No support from Anet for GvGers
• No support from Anet for PPTers
• No new WvW content in last 3 years except WvW lvls( EoTM NOPE it is pve map now)
• No WvW tournaments for last 8 months( pvp get 1 every 3 months)
• Ktrains with pve commanders
• Lowering spots for WvW
• Lags, dcs, bugs etc.
• Hackers / Cheaters
• Verbal abusing players every single time for not playing ppt or some other reason

So many reasons to quit this gamemode already. And yet u ppl still play it. Just answer me…Why? Why are u supporting company that don’t care about u? Why?

I’m adressing it to u ppl cos I just simply quit WvW almost 3 years ago. Atm. I only GvG and join for raids with my guild only cos there is no other point to play it.

Ye I’m QQing here, cos I finally saw posts of people that can think and realised what is going on here and I hope that Anet will finally make a move! But my hope is small cos they basically don’t care about this subforum and WvW. From where is my conclusion? Just look into it:

> During last 3 months they answered in 6 posts! And we created about 300 during this time. Last activity was 7 days ago, and previous over a month ago. What?!
> When we find WvW related bug devs answer after 1-2 weeks? Or something…How long did it take for them to take care about WvW lag and put a post at forum? Whole 2 years to even realise it, and then when it got really bad they told it was due to pvp stuff…For real? And even now when we have lags due to server’s performance the reply is: “It must be ur internet connection or pc performance, our servers are fine”. For real guys?!
> Now, hacker appeared, how long it took to take care of him? over a week? With video and nick spoted? ><
> Back to bugs what about all those that are left? Stucking in the air? Getting fall dmg out of nowhere? Stucking in wall? Those are 3 years old bugs still not fixed!
> What about population inbalance? They just ignore it and don’t try to fix it!
> What about WvW releated stuff? We got nothing during last 3 years( 4 colors for tag?! Eotm i.e. pve ktrain?! Wxp lvls that now will be worth nothing after removing of stacks?!). And what pve got? New maps, new bosses, new events, rewards, stuff to do like story lines, a lot of achivs and muuuuch more. They are even forcing us to play pve with exp cos of new skill point( hero point) system! QQ
> All players ideas of improving WvW are ignored and not even answered( even simply “no way to implement it” would be good.)

Ehhh…Idk Anet u don’t have enough ppl to cover communicating with players? Maybe time to hire few guys to keep it up. U earned a lot and u are earning a lot of money, but remember that players are giving u $$ so better take care of them.

I really, really, really wanted to buy HoT and play WvW, but after what I suffered at forum and saw here I’m not really gonna pay a single $ for stuff that isn’t even worth it and to support company that isn’t even supporting it’s players.

Ps. According to ToC I didn’t break any single point of it
Pps. Devs, if it is such hard to find what u need to fix, just pm me and I will point u out what u need to do, or just read this post from 1. comment to last 1

• long times of relative inactivity (walking/pvd/npc killing)
• costly per-build investments
• lacks rewards. killing a player is more or less the same as killing an NPC, just slightly harder.
• extremely repetitive, dull environments. entirely static; players can make zero meaningful impact on the map aside from changing minimap icon colors (EoTM is the only map that actually looks nice or inspired. it has it’s fair share of “obnoxious” mechanics but these mechanics actually give the map a personality i enjoy a lot. shame it’s been reduced to a farm fest).
• far too number intensive. server population entirely dictates competitiveness and playstyle viability. want to roam? sorry the other two servers have dedicated hordes of players willing to chase 1-5 players across the map to deny roaming. want to engage in massive scale combat? too bad your server has a 1/3rd the population of the others in the matchup and can barely get siegerazer going.

there’s a ton of reasons. sPvP just has more to offer in terms of fun and competitiveness. it offers this in a sandbox arena format and does what it says it does. wvw wants to be open world pvp but ends up being a bigger, much more boring sandbox.

Due to anets complete disdain for the game mode. Their whole botching of the GvG scene was/is the greatest folly in the history of gw2.

WvW had the potential to be the best MMO PvP out but they blew it.

Coyote.7031:

cryokro.6270:

2. Commanders with big ego, most of them are ktrain commanders that cant even read map chat.

My husband quit WvW for this reason alone, and stopped playing GW2 all together. After they hounded him to get into TS he got to listen to one command insult and complain about individual players, generally female players. Another who just talked about how “blazed” he was all the time. And third who could mysteriously hit siege that others couldn’t. It’s the major reason I chose a different server, but I’m sure most servers have similar issues.

Banning from TS is becoming the thing to do by very controlling people who believe they own the server – literally.

Mature people who never abuse others, who want a good teamwork experience, are tossed from any area where they have a differing idea.

Then there are the trolls who destroy one’s reputation and speak vile words in TS that people gasp and snicker at in map chat.

Anet is ignoring a huge problem – and it’s all because they don’t have anyone in TS who is part of the GW2, so they can safely put blinders on until the map chat screenshots are just too overwhelming to ignore. But by the time you finally get an answer on any bullying ticket, your reputation is further degraded – so much so that many “commanders” won’t respond because of the viscous gossip and disinformation.

What would help in a small way is fielding castles on all maps at least during prime time.

It’s a community and until this company treats it as one, things are going to continue to deteriorate in WvW regardless of the other factors that prompt people to leave.

I am sorry your husband stopped playing – gamers aren’t all bad people, but even good people can be dragged into bad people’s wake of the destruction of others.

The no-white-swords “experiment” was the last straw for me. But it’s really been the lopsided matches, the repetitive matches, and the astonishingly bad tournament design leading to both of the above, plus CHANGING the game mechanics in the middle of a tournament. The difficulty and boredom of sentry duty, yak escorts, and upgrading, and the complete lack of income during the hours I’m doing this.

The funny thing is, as soon as I stopped playing WvW, I stopped playing GW2. I’ve collected my monthly once since January. I’ve logged in (and out) ~ 30 times in the last 5 months. Turns out, WvW wasn’t something I did on the side of my PvE. PvE was my side activity outside of WvW.

If i would ever stop wvw it’s because of the drops. Or rather the lack of drops, Anet is so afraid of loot that it’s non existent in this gamemode.

aspirine.6852:

If i would ever stop wvw it’s because of the drops. Or rather the lack of drops, Anet is so afraid of loot that it’s non existent in this gamemode.

I know.

I don’t get it?

Why not reward people the same for every game mode?

Blizz kind of do the same with PVP – I don’t get that, either.

I don’t even think they should be rewarding people for killing other players, TBH, as that encourages mindless farming.

But they should be rewarding them well for doing objectives properly; especially defending.

stability change and the kitten boring pirate ship meta since the patch

Kartel.2561:

It’s too structured, limited, and artificial. I’d prefer something more free-form. Not so point-driven, and routine. Something with politics, alliances, consequences, etc. WvW, like the rest of the game, just isn’t that deep of an experience. I was excited about it in the beginning, back when guilds bothered to claim castles and so forth,

I agree with this. Those would be great!

If i stop it’s because of anet unable to fix their laggy servers,and this entire range meta is the biggest load of boring bull ive witnessed so far.Yes all of you range classes are absolutely loving it,but take a look what happend to frontliners like warrior…have to stand around kiting like a kitten now,there’s no diversity,if you say there is..you’re foolingyourself.Throw lines of warding,and aoe the kitten out of everything or kite around for 10m…Its such a kittening bore.

Olli.9028:

stability change and the kitten boring pirate ship meta since the patch

Yes, if I quit WvW its because of the pirate ship and commander focus meta.

Because nothing important gets changed. like population issues which determine 99.999999% of the fights and all the other crap people mentioned

All us wvwers got is a stupid PvE DUNGEON called EOTM, little PVP circles in the middle of the map nobody freaking cares about, and little mastery bs. whoohoo i can pve faster!!! u no in retrospect its not all bad. Siege bunker is a decent trait against ac’s b/c we all know how stupid ac’s are.

Oh and lets not forget these frickn “tournaments” that nobody asked for. One more way to suck our wallets dry. Exquisite.

Take a look how many times PvP and PvE has been decently updated. Now look at WvW. Its the same freakin kitten for 3 years. Change the game already. Wvw still has so much potential (until other games start making combat as good as gw2). There is an INFINITE amount of bnb mmo’s where you can play pve and pvp in, but there’s not many if at all you can play wvw in.

I’m not mad. I just really love this game mode, and I hate seeing it remain unchanged for so long. BE TEE DUB you know what’d be different. If every npc was a lord and they could build/manage siege and they roam the map. oh yea.

Because of cheating. Because ANet doesn’t care. I am not going to waste my time trying to have fun while two servers coordinate with each other and their spies on our server to prevent a real fight.

I stopped somewhat because I do not find it as fun to run with a group of people I don’t know versus a group of people I do know (i.e. guild havoc group).

Because I am so kittening tired of ONE ranger auto attack taking away almost half of my health. 3.5k Long Range shot + 1.5k lighting strike. No thanks.

Drennon.7190:

Because I am so kittening tired of ONE ranger auto attack taking away almost half of my health. 3.5k Long Range shot + 1.5k lighting strike. No thanks.

the broken metas are definitley a big factor. i almost deleted my mesmer because i was tired of veilbotting. some obviously broken mechanics that offer very little counterplay should be fixed much faster than they are.

Because it is pretty much broken in every aspect, as a points scoring competition and “winning” it is worthless, and equivalent to say a football match (yes the one where you actually use your feet most of the time), where for one team only 3 players come out for the start of the second half, and the other team still has 11.

Class balance is non-existent, for zergs/raids for most of the game it can be pretty much be summed up as four classes making up the vast majority of the numbers, the other four as relegated to bit parts and barely represented, with the extreme being engy as basically not required/wanted at all.

Class balance is also pitiful on a smaller scale, the difference in risk vs reward is ridiculous, hence why there have always been a billion nabs on thieves, or as someone mentioned above you now have longbow rangers also rolling face, as what is reasonably balanced in tPvP where there is a lot of LOS, is faceroll time in the very open areas you often get in WvW.

Which of course is down to the balance philosophy of this game, which is basically balance for tPvP at the expense of everything else, which of course has resulted in tremendous “e-sports” success, with the thing last night drawing huge viewing figures of about 850, so less than some kid streaming Runescape from their bedroom…

The playerbase, literally the worst I have ever encountered, I guess because this is not a PvP MMO nor does it have PvP servers, never played a game with so many PvE nabs (and this incldues many WvW players/guilds) who run from or avoid even fights.

Oh and then there is the hackers.

All of which is why WvW is in such a great state, with a huge healthy playerbase, and a new PvE map will solve everything. /sarcasm

zinkz.7045:

Which of course is down to the balance philosophy of this game, which is basically balance for tPvP at the expense of everything else, which of course has resulted in tremendous “e-sports” success, with the thing last night drawing huge viewing figures of about 850, so less than some kid streaming Runescape from their bedroom…

I LoL’d at that xD It’s funny because is true

Drennon.7190:

Because I am so kittening tired of ONE ranger auto attack taking away almost half of my health. 3.5k Long Range shot + 1.5k lighting strike. No thanks.

The range of the attacks is insane indeed. But I’m not gonna stop because of one class attacks.

aspirine.6852:

Drennon.7190:

Because I am so kittening tired of ONE ranger auto attack taking away almost half of my health. 3.5k Long Range shot + 1.5k lighting strike. No thanks.

The range of the attacks is insane indeed. But I’m not gonna stop because of one class attacks.

Yeah, if that were the case I’d have stopped a long time ago due to thieves.

zinkz.7045:

The playerbase, literally the worst I have ever encountered, I guess because this is not a PvP MMO nor does it have PvP servers, never played a game with so many PvE nabs (and this incldues many WvW players/guilds) who run from or avoid even fights.

Face it, WvW promotes casual PvP, no matter if it’s down to zerging, most of the time you still have to be a decent enough pvper; who isn’t a rallybot, otherwise you might aswell reroll tetris. As far as Competitive PvP is concerned there’s a lack of support, besides player driven Communities; at least GvG is real, it’s just that the Meta has gotten people bored.

Where would all those YouTube Roamers find most their content, without all these scrubs while roaming? These players fight back (or don’t) and look bad, while they look good, I guess it makes them look good though.

Worst I’ve seen from Guilds, is adding into fights out in the open field at least, or blobs steamrolling Guilds running far less, because that is how it is balanced.

It was bad enough before stab change, now it’s just, well, not gonna whine. The WvW mode, maybe right or maybe wrong, who knows, is turning more hardcore professional. If you don’t run in TS, with this guild, running this build, and now CLASS, you will be called a scrub and told to get out of the zone or begged to scout.
It was fun for a bit; nothing lasts forever. I get things change and what not, and if the large majority of GW2 WvW players like the changes, then, it is what it is. Maybe WvW does need to tighten up and become more professional instead of more casual as before, /shrug, who am I to say? But I can say, it’s quickly losing play status with me, and seeing that’s all I really play GW2 for…..

Happy Hunting.

Immensus.9732:

zinkz.7045:

Which of course is down to the balance philosophy of this game, which is basically balance for tPvP at the expense of everything else, which of course has resulted in tremendous “e-sports” success, with the thing last night drawing huge viewing figures of about 850, so less than some kid streaming Runescape from their bedroom…

I LoL’d at that xD It’s funny because is true

+2.

They botched it, big time.

In PvE – they cater to the many.

In Player vs Player – they cater and balance to the few: IE – tPvP.

WvW is just a side note.

They got it backwards: s/tPvP is the side note. WvW has soo much more potential, yet they’re blind.

T raw.4658:

Due to anets complete disdain for the game mode. Their whole botching of the GvG scene was/is the greatest folly in the history of gw2.

WvW had the potential to be the best MMO PvP out but they blew it.

Man, that’s such a sad statement. Because it’s 100% correct.

aspirine.6852:

Drennon.7190:

Because I am so kittening tired of ONE ranger auto attack taking away almost half of my health. 3.5k Long Range shot + 1.5k lighting strike. No thanks.

The range of the attacks is insane indeed. But I’m not gonna stop because of one class attacks.

Well don’t forget the press of a single button from 1800 range, that even if you dodge part of it you’ll still get hit for the same damage as if a thief that had to get right up on you backstabbed you for 10k…

Johje Holan.4607:

aspirine.6852:

Drennon.7190:

Because I am so kittening tired of ONE ranger auto attack taking away almost half of my health. 3.5k Long Range shot + 1.5k lighting strike. No thanks.

The range of the attacks is insane indeed. But I’m not gonna stop because of one class attacks.

Yeah, if that were the case I’d have stopped a long time ago due to thieves.

Thieves……sorry I had too.

atheria.2837:

Banning from TS is becoming the thing to do by very controlling people who believe they own the server – literally.

Mature people who never abuse others, who want a good teamwork experience, are tossed from any area where they have a differing idea.

Then there are the trolls who destroy one’s reputation and speak vile words in TS that people gasp and snicker at in map chat.

Anet is ignoring a huge problem – and it’s all because they don’t have anyone in TS who is part of the GW2, so they can safely put blinders on until the map chat screenshots are just too overwhelming to ignore. But by the time you finally get an answer on any bullying ticket, your reputation is further degraded – so much so that many “commanders” won’t respond because of the viscous gossip and disinformation.

What would help in a small way is fielding castles on all maps at least during prime time.

It’s a community and until this company treats it as one, things are going to continue to deteriorate in WvW regardless of the other factors that prompt people to leave.

I am sorry your husband stopped playing – gamers aren’t all bad people, but even good people can be dragged into bad people’s wake of the destruction of others.

I got him to play this weekend in Silverwastes. I thought the fairly fast paced events might be interesting for him. He seemed to enjoy it okay, I might get him in there again. It gives pretty good rewards and allows me to afford all my fancy stuff.

And ANet can’t really anything about people behaving poorly in TS or in any other form of communication outside the game. It’s up to the people who run the TS server, which are often devoted members of the server. And how do you prove any of it? Even if you record their voice you can’t really tie them directly to their GW2 account. Anet would need proof of their bad behavior in GW2. I think the only time Anet would get involved with policing someone for outside behavior if the authorities were involved. And that’s just extreme cases.

It’s up to the community to police themselves, and if your on a lesser server, banning commanders for poor behavior would just divide the server. That’s how I think many get away with it. /shrugs

Personally, I just avoid voice chat, and the rare times I do pop on… I just stay quiet.

For me it’s that the outcome was most often pretty clear the whole way along. WvW is great when each team (or at least two of them including mine) is doing about as well as the other and the match could go any which way, but when my team is just farming enemies or being farmed themselves, it’s terrible. And for some reason, the really good matches that I played for were just so far apart that in the end it wasn’t worth putting up with the bad and mediocre ones.

My guild played on the hardcode side of the WvW, we always gave a lot of focus on running “small” numbers (~20) and on individual skill & placement & generally improving by practicing as opposed to recruiting more people.
Was fun and challenging to fight bigger groups and good guilds but after 1year+ of running every night it got stale a bit especially since Anet are neglecting this game mode so much…
I think what pushed it over the ledge was the frontline meta that developed which was insanely boring to fight so a couple of us left for Archeage that just got released so the guild fell apart and never got back together.
So tPvP for me now

Stopped after realizing they were using wvw as a cash cow for server transfers, and refused to be played for a mug.
I could go on ie allowing server stacking immediately before a major tournament, and then have the audacity to say what a fantastic tournament it was afterwards O-O, but who would listen!

Reasons why I stopped playing WvW:

1. Balance: there’s no balance between servers and the match-up system is flawed (coverage is king).
2. Boredom: no new “WvW” (no EotM) maps or other content additions, siege weapons are still the same, objectives are still working the same etc… it’s boring
3. Guild content: while promised in the launch of the game, WvW saw no guild-based additions. Capturing keeps/towers means nothing, because flipping them is so easy and guilds can’t customize anything.
4. Zergs: require zero strategy and very little skill, yet they are promoted by the game: more tagging, more loot. Coordinated players can take on these zergs, but it’s always a two-sided sword: become a zerg or be killed by one.
5. Loot: loot is abysmal compared to other game modes, ’nuff said
6. Roaming: while one of the most challenging areas of this game, there’s just not enough support in-game for it.

Nike.2631:

I don’t WvW much because the Devs refuse to face a basic problem:

The matches need automatic, continuous strategic-level handicapping/bolstering mechanics so you can put ANY 3 servers into a match and not know the outcome 10 seconds into the WEEK.

We’re beyond stagnant match-ups. Hell, we’re a year past ossification of match-ups.

There’s a core group of leechers (currently on BG server) who jump ship and change servers the second they aren’t the big kid on the block. Anet makes money off of this so why would it change?

I haven’t stopped wvwvwing, but there are some things I definitely think could be better.

• Rewards should definitely be better. Especially for taking large objectives.
• Maps are stale (though the new borderlands should help this)
• Portals should not be usable at all during sieges, even during the few seconds when the event resets.
• Same map for all three borderlands. (Eventually, I would like the see separate Red BL, Blue BL, and Green BL which are all thematically different—like the spawn zones in EoTM)
• Some disincentive for just blindly following a zerg.

That being said, I still mainly WvW (with some SW thrown in), those are just some suggestions.

1. Same match ups week after week can make me do pve only and not log into wvw for days.

2. Nightcapping

3. The overall degeneration of fighting spirit among players due to blobbing. You know the situation, no tag on map and there are 20 afk players at spawn who won’t even bother help save T3 tower/keep. A tag appears and suddenly there is a zerg ready to mash 111 on a gate and jump on a lonely roamer after they chase him across half the map.

There are less and less small fights (which I find most fun) cos people give up before the fight even happens. Sometimes I can’t even take a camp/tower because 1 player is defending and those friendlies trying to take the objective with me consider dodging ac fire a mechanic for elitists. They die and they won’t come back to try again.

Zergs are the equivalent of anet’s casual approach to the game so the majority of players can enjoy a free ride without any effort.

I have switched from WvW to PvP. The main reason is balanced fights. In WvW I had been playing against the same servers, same people, same guilds for the past 6 months. The tier 2 situation is the worst. FA and SoS vs YB. FA and SoS are pretty much the joke of WvW. They can’t do anything on their own so they team up. SoS has been in last place for the past 6 months. FA keeps trying to go to tier 1 but they aren’t good enough. It’s a terribly boring situation and we’re caught in the middle. The fights have become very predictable. Without regular/mandatory server rotations I believe WvW will slowly die out. That’s sad because it was such a promising game element.

I logged about 5,000 hours in the game, primarily WvWing for the first two years (I actively avoided S1 LS, etc).
I don’t WvW any more (except the occasional daily) because Arena Net has made it crystal clear their focus is casual PvE, and to a lesser extent, PvP (although they need to overhaul celestial/conditions… which they already know). WvW is a game mode that barely exists to them, which is such a waste of a financial opportunity. They lost their hardcore gamers long ago. And the fact that their business model is reliant on new, transient players is a shame to the community and to the loyal players of their games.
I played GW1 from 2005 up until the hour GW2 launched. Can’t and won’t say the same about GW2.

Combination of life getting more hectic/needing my attention that I could no longer dedicate to WvW as often and then my server imploded a bit.

I’ll go in occasionally and roam more instead of focusing on home defense, but i might do that more after HoT comes out if (IF) I have the time freed up for it.

Malediktus.3740:

Olli.9028:

stability change and the kitten boring pirate ship meta since the patch

Yes, if I quit WvW its because of the pirate ship and commander focus meta.

Who’d ever thought we would miss hammer trains lol

blob fighthing empty bl or defenders move to another empty bl, empty servers, no value having hard time defending or capping when happens, no value to be in guild or not, etc….
And themeparks redundancy gets bored after the first months…