Guild Wars 2

So I run a guardian in GW2 and been WvW since launch and rank 35 in arena.

Although I have played a warrior in rift and WoW something told me not to make warrior my main GW2 and boy did I dodge a bullet!

That’s right, whoever makes the dev decisions about warriors in GW2 has succumbed to the age old mistake of listening to the whiners instead of looking at classes objectively.

From the perspective of a middle of the road class I can tell you that warriors have NEVER been a threat. I died ONCE in all of my sPvP to a warrior and that was bc I wasn’t paying attention and pooped my stability to soon. Now as I understand it they were nerfed for some some reason.

Considering how there are three classes that have always been MUCH more overpowered than warrior (Mesmer (insane OP), Necro, Thief)) I wondered why on earth they did this. Even a well played engineer is better than a warrior when they were supposedly OP.

I have come to the conclusion that devs are just so out of touch with classes that they come to wildly inaccurate conclusions and delusions about “class balance” based on a few whiners who just see a warrior going all hundred blades on them and they scream for warrior blood ignoring the fact that they could literally “S” key out of it.

In conclusion, Anet stop listening to the loudest whiny babies and listen to educated well rounded players who are experienced in all classes and are actually good at the game. Stop trying to balance bad skill.

warriors were facerolling hard in wow during mop expansion…
currently wars are probably the best class to play in pve, wvw and pvp…

am i biting a cake here?

2/10 for effort

Gods Knight.4936:

I died ONCE in all of my sPvP to a warrior and that was bc I wasn’t paying attention and pooped

That surprising, huh?

It’s not 1 warrior that’s the problem, it’s multiple warriors.

The best synergy for a hammer warrior is another hammer warrior. When you get 4-5 together they can easily take out groups 3x their size.

Cannot say for sPvP but in WvW a Warrior is one of the most played class and also a must in Zergs, easy to play and very good in roaming and zerging.

I don’t know about WoW but warriors in GW2 are currently a top class to play. They are the backbone in a zerg, excellent in skirmish and dangerous in solo. Without a doubt the easiest class to play making even poorly skilled players look good.

Get all PVT gear, run a shout build with banner, equip a hammer and Sword/Warhorn or GS, mash attack buttons randomly, Earthshaker when it is up, use shouts when hurt, banner when players going down. Tada… instantly “skilled” player. It is ridiculously hard to bring down 3400+ toughness and 31k+ HP with an attack that is often above 4k.

Op,

i’m a vet mmorpg’s player and i completely disagree with you. Before i even continue, i want you to name those mmorpg which “warriors are nerfed to dirt”

by the way, all top popular mmorpgs, warriors are the top best profession/job/class,
including this one, so………….

k get back to me with hard evidences so i can continue (no videos or websites allowed; only names)

thanks

Who are you trying to fool? Ive played wow arena actively (and at the top of the ladder) during every single season. So are you tellling me i dont know whats going on in wow?

Warriors are so weak in wow now right?. Oooh wait:

http://www.worldofwargraphs.com/stats-classesrepartition-0-0-0-0-0-3-2-0.html

In a game with 20-25 arenaviable specs your avg should be around 4-5%. Its 20% now…and it was 25%. That means that 75% of all top 3v3 teams had a warrior in them.
To find a spec with a similar representation you need to go back 5 years to season 5, when DKs where dominating the ladders. Nothing else comes close to these numbers.

Same applies to warriors in GW2. They are top dogs right now, even after the nerfs.

One more thing…

I don’t mind repeating myself 1,000 times, i believe warrior should be the strongest top class in guild wars 2 but, yes i said but… they shouldn’t be ALL POWERFUL

There is a difference in being Powerful and ALL POWERFUl. This is the problem we see and have in this game, it’s not about warriors, thieves or mesmers, it’s about Arena.net philosophy of class balance.

Their philosophy of class balance is; Being ALL and Having it ALL.; which is Unjust, and Tyrannical. Not forgetting they are in complete Violation of the Law of Balance.

That’s the Problem we’ve been experiencing since day 1 of guild wars 2 release and that’s the problem Arena.net intentionally refuse to deal with.

It’s not about nerfing “the hell out” of All POWERFULL classes, it is to completely redesign/rework them. Why? Because, “ALL their fiber of their bones” are designed and created to be ALL POWERFUL .

As long Arena.net continue their saga in their philosophy of “Balance”, there will never be an end to this chaos and rage among ourselves.

15 months and counting; the joke is still on us.

Gods Knight.4936:

So I run a guardian in GW2 and been WvW since launch and rank 35 in arena.

Although I have played a warrior in rift and WoW something told me not to make warrior my main GW2 and boy did I dodge a bullet!

That’s right, whoever makes the dev decisions about warriors in GW2 has succumbed to the age old mistake of listening to the whiners instead of looking at classes objectively.

From the perspective of a middle of the road class I can tell you that warriors have NEVER been a threat. I died ONCE in all of my sPvP to a warrior and that was bc I wasn’t paying attention and pooped my stability to soon. Now as I understand it they were nerfed for some some reason.

Considering how there are three classes that have always been MUCH more overpowered than warrior (Mesmer (insane OP), Necro, Thief)) I wondered why on earth they did this. Even a well played engineer is better than a warrior when they were supposedly OP.

I have come to the conclusion that devs are just so out of touch with classes that they come to wildly inaccurate conclusions and delusions about “class balance” based on a few whiners who just see a warrior going all hundred blades on them and they scream for warrior blood ignoring the fact that they could literally “S” key out of it.

In conclusion, Anet stop listening to the loudest whiny babies and listen to educated well rounded players who are experienced in all classes and are actually good at the game. Stop trying to balance bad skill.

erm u are in the wrong forum here. this wvw not spvp. there is 1 annoying build out there for mesmers yes pu mesmers are hard to kill, but in a zerg mes are veilbots still as we lack aoe.
warriors in spvp were bad and then they got an insane boost that affected wvw way more.
in spvp i wouldnt complain about a warrior in wvw it is still too powerful. if u are chained stunnlocked immobilized, knockdownned and knocked back without the chance to react. it is not a l2p or skill issue it is a balance issue. cc is out of control atm and needs a tone down so u can actually fight and not just stand there till u die.
also mes has very little access to stability, but mes is not op at all. we got most of our builds nerfed to the ground and then we get 1 that is annoying and yes that 1 build needs a little tone down, but the mes is still in a very bad spot in wvw. do u think its fun being a veil/tw bot?

The only thing that war has more than other classes is choice between different builds.

Peetee.9406:

It’s not 1 warrior that’s the problem, it’s multiple warriors.

The best synergy for a hammer warrior is another hammer warrior. When you get 4-5 together they can easily take out groups 3x their size.

They synergize with friggen everything lol hammer train…

Gods Knight.4936:

I died ONCE in all of my sPvP to a warrior and that was bc I wasn’t paying attention and pooped my stability to soon. Now as I understand it they were nerfed for some some reason.

Whoa man, that’s it then – case closed.

Gods Knight.4936:

pooped

Never poop on warriors. They don’t appreciate it.

Peetee.9406:

It’s not 1 warrior that’s the problem, it’s multiple warriors.

The best synergy for a hammer warrior is another hammer warrior. When you get 4-5 together they can easily take out groups 3x their size.

What if its 5 Hammer Warrior vs 15 Hammer Warriors?

Cynz.9437:

warriors were facerolling hard in wow during mop expansion…
currently wars are probably the best class to play in pve, wvw and pvp…

am i biting a cake here?

2/10 for effort

This. Warriors were insane during MoP kinda like the DeathKnight when it came, was just insane. Then again Monks were quite strong to but Warriors just rolled everything.

The same goes for here, they can do everything every class can do and in most cases do it easier, better and faster. They are in need of some serious tweaking, i wont say nerfs because all it would take is a few minor changes to get them back down with everyone else.

OP is pretty much wrong about everything he types. Warriors are a top tier class in this game, and have been overpowered in pretty much every other MMO as well.(They were OP for the majority of WoW). Thieves, Necros, and Mesmers are not more powerful than Warriors, not by a LONG shot. Mesmers are OP 1v1, Thieves are OP vs noobs, and Necros are OP vs someone who doesnt slot condition removal. Warriors are great roamers, great zergers, great in dungeons, are easy to play, and are pretty much just efficient at everything they do.

The more I read this post, the more I think the OP is just trolling.

I agree that the OP probably is just ironic/sarcastic.
Warriors are too mobile and with the many different ways of sinergy for the group (many blast finishers, banners, banner heal/revive, shouts heal, shout-conditions removal) they outrank other classes easily in every situation where u have a group.

I think the main reason for this is, that when looking at statistical data, the warrior will not be that good overall when looking at all players in the game. If you don’t have a lot of experience with rpg-games, you may overproportionally chose the warrior as class because it gives the impression of being an easy class to play. I sure as hell did when i first played RPGs in the 90ties
Additionally I think, they really are an easy class to play compared to others like eles or mesmers, where u have to be more careful of taking damage or you have to switch around a lot. So fewer newbies will give up and level them to 80, while with squishy classes you would give up more easily. So when looking at statistics you have a lot of inexperienced players as warriors and the more experienced or skills players in other classes and you have to “control” this effect in your data. You can do that for example if you only take the data of players that have played the specific class for more than 100 hours. If more games would do that for their balancing, warriors would be less overpowered

They nerfed warriors in GW1 as well, stances for example. Stances used to be very strong but the feature of choosing a secondary profession and their exploit by monks nerfed them to oblivion. Other skills and types of skills that were absolutely fine to the warrior class but abused by other classes were also nerfed, without it being the warriors fault at all.
The introduction of assassins and dervishes eventually put the final nail to the coffin of warriors. Shadow form running rampant for 3 years also made the warriors obsolete in pve.
Im really hoping GW2 warriors do not go down the same road.

Keiel.7489:

Peetee.9406:

It’s not 1 warrior that’s the problem, it’s multiple warriors.

The best synergy for a hammer warrior is another hammer warrior. When you get 4-5 together they can easily take out groups 3x their size.

What if its 5 Hammer Warrior vs 15 Hammer Warriors?

Would be lol if Anet came with deminishing return, i think its time for that

Look, Warriors are strong. Especially in WvW, and this is the WvW forum. If you don’t get that, stop playing GW2 because obviously the mechanics of this game don’t make sense to you.

I think the OP is a troll…and that’s the generous answer :P

Anyone who thinks warriors are or ever have been a viable threat are just bad. That’s the point.

Aside from the fail trolls that posted here, those of you who find it hard to beat a warrior are just plain horrible.

Warrior is the only class I can solo in my support shout build. They fail at everything even WvW. PvE they are decent if the boss stands still.

I think most of the replies here indicate why GW2 has failed so miserably.

Gods Knight.4936:

Anyone who thinks warriors are or ever have been a viable threat are just bad. That’s the point.

Aside from the fail trolls that posted here, those of you who find it hard to beat a warrior are just plain horrible.

Warrior is the only class I can solo in my support shout build. They fail at everything even WvW. PvE they are decent if the boss stands still.

I think most of the replies here indicate why GW2 has failed so miserably.