Guild Wars 2

Hi, just curious if the ascended gear and Proof of heroics vendor will be properly updated for the upcoming expansion.

Will we get immediate access to new sigils, runes, recipes, hero points, and stat combinations on ascended gear?

Also, can you please add skirmish chest tab to the Permanent Portable Provisioner?

I would be highly surprised if all of the mechanical PoF elements were available immediately through tokens earned in wvw before the expansion. That’s a real good way to get the pve’ers to rage and from a design perspective I doubt Anet wants to introduce an element that’ll have a good chunk of their players ignore all of the content required to earn all of the new rewards and instead earn them instantly.

That said I hope they allow all of the new content to be eventually obtainable through wvw with the existing tokens and not a new type of currency.

~ Kovu

I don’t think anet would allow wvw players to skip new expansion content by adding all hero points and runes/sigils.

Yea it took awhile before some of the HoT rune/sigil became available. Proof of heroics was in the game at the start of HoT since wvw need away to earn their elites. I am hopefully for a PoF vendor.

You couldn’t get those hero points straight away at launch. They did became available after a while.

Let me consult the WvW Magic 8 Ball:

“Will vendors be updated for PoF?”

Answer: “Don’t count on it.”

I wish they would. I just do not care to do all the PvE content right away. To me PvE is fairly boring most of the time. I know they probably want people to play the new maps and what not, but I would prefer to stay in WvW.

I remember them saying they did not want WvW players to have to grind PvE in order to play WvW. But anyways, this is important for a variety of reasons, like preparing gear and builds.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

Awesome, thank you!

One more question, will these be available in skirmish chests, like proofs of heroics?

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

so all the hero points I have done despite having maxed everything will be worthless? I really do not want to grind through all of PoF just to max out the elite. THAT is a horrible, thankless, boring grind.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Serenity.6135:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

Awesome, thank you!

One more question, will these be available in skirmish chests, like proofs of heroics?

There will be a new skirmish chest with the new currency in them.

Nice. The only thing better for me would be instant access without playing….

But seriously, at least I can choose to do them within the core of WvW, OR go into PvE and play the new content.

Thank you.

VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

so all the hero points I have done despite having maxed everything will be worthless? I really do not want to grind through all of PoF just to max out the elite. THAT is a horrible, thankless, boring grind.

You don’t have to grind all of PoF, this will work the same as with HoT which is good. This way you can still get all this stuff done through wvw, and nobody can simply have immediate access to everything which would be unfair to those with many thousands of Proofs of heroics.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Serenity.6135:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

Awesome, thank you!

One more question, will these be available in skirmish chests, like proofs of heroics?

There will be a new skirmish chest with the new currency in them.

You’ve thought of everything lol, thanks!

Ugh why add new currencies when we already have currencies that work fine for this.

VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

so all the hero points I have done despite having maxed everything will be worthless? I really do not want to grind through all of PoF just to max out the elite. THAT is a horrible, thankless, boring grind.

No, the hero points already earned will be useful. The proof of heroics will not be.

Just like world completion hero points could be spent on HoT specs, HoT hero points will be spendable on PoF specs.

So you did not waste your time.

And, in fact, you could even use proofs of heroics to buy all of the hero points available to them, and probably get pretty close to maxing a new elite spec. So even proof of heroics are still useful for this, assuming you’re as lazy as I am.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Serenity.6135:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

Awesome, thank you!

One more question, will these be available in skirmish chests, like proofs of heroics?

There will be a new skirmish chest with the new currency in them.

Will that new chest replace the old ones in a retroactive manner?

DBZVelena.5186:

Ugh why add new currencies when we already have currencies that work fine for this.

Yeah, I’ve thought about this and I really don’t understand the need for another currency. Why would you invalidate current skirmish reward chests and current proofs of heroics just to add another? If the goal is to prevent players from unlocking everything on day 1, then why can they do it in PvE? It’s inconsistent to make WvW-exclusive players wait arbitrarily to build up a new currency, is a waste of a new currency slot when a current one is perfectly suitable for it, and will also make skimish reward chests unstackable if there are different kinds. I just can’t see an upside to this implementation.

Rising Dusk.2408:

DBZVelena.5186:

Ugh why add new currencies when we already have currencies that work fine for this.

Yeah, I’ve thought about this and I really don’t understand the need for another currency. Why would you invalidate current skirmish reward chests and current proofs of heroics just to add another? If the goal is to prevent players from unlocking everything on day 1, then why can they do it in PvE? It’s inconsistent to make WvW-exclusive players wait arbitrarily to build up a new currency, is a waste of a new currency slot when a current one is perfectly suitable for it, and will also make skimish reward chests unstackable if there are different kinds. I just can’t see an upside to this implementation.

It doesn’t invalidate anything, the new chests only add the new currency. You can still use the current skirmish chests like normal. The point is that players do not have immediate access to everything because they have stockpiled on a currency.

Hum guess I should open up my stack of skrimish chest now :P. Are you going to add other ways to turn proofs of heroic into something profitable or consumable? Once your alts are geared theirs not much to spend them on, since you can get siege for badges or silver.

Ulion.5476:

Hum guess I should open up my stack of skrimish chest now :P. Are you going to add other ways to turn proofs of heroic into something profitable or consumable? Once your alts are geared theirs not much to spend them on, since you can get siege for badges or silver.

She said proofs are still going to be used the same way, so I doubt it.

I am still hoping for a new use for tomes of knowledge…but wishful thinking

Serenity.6135:

She said proofs are still going to be used the same way, so I doubt it.

I am still hoping for a new use for tomes of knowledge…but wishful thinking

You can turn spirit shards into a profit.
https://gw2efficiency.com/currencies/spirit-shards
Its can be tedious if you have thousands of them like I use to but its still profitable. Upgrading mats from t1,3,5 to t2,4,6 are the most profitable ones. It takes awhile to mystic forge those mats but its worthwhile.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

This is info we could have got a bit sooner. I have stacked over 4 k of proof the last months when i could have picked other rewards because i wont need as many :/

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

Great more accretion, you need to work out how to make 1 currency work across expansions, other games do it. Development by accretion is not good game design.

Leaa.2943:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

This is info we could have got a bit sooner. I have stacked over 4 k of proof the last months when i could have picked other rewards because i wont need as many :/

I’m sorry but it was kinda obvious they wouldn’t allow proof of heroics to be the same currency for the new stuff. Haven’t you seen how they operate by now? They always create new currencies for new stuff so that you don’t horde and get stuff right away from release. Why do you think we have proof of heroics instead of like badges as a cost for HoT stuff?

So will we still be able to earn proofs of heroics? Like convert the new currency to proofs of heroics somehow?

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Serenity.6135:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

Awesome, thank you!

One more question, will these be available in skirmish chests, like proofs of heroics?

There will be a new skirmish chest with the new currency in them.

Thank you for not updating the existing chests. I hate when people who hold on to unopened chests are rewarded; keep doing this in the future.

I’m okay with this, but personally I was expecting you guys to add the Notarized Desert? Heroics to the vendor a few weeks after the launch of Path of Fire, rather than add another new currency.

Pifil.5193:

So will we still be able to earn proofs of heroics? Like convert the new currency to proofs of heroics somehow?

This is actually a fairly important question, since there will still be HoT only players as well.

I won’t be one of them, but it’s still important.

Pifil.5193:

So will we still be able to earn proofs of heroics? Like convert the new currency to proofs of heroics somehow?

Good question! I would like to know as well, for throwing together future builds that incorporate things like Durability Runes or Leadership Runes, etc.

Cronos.6532:

Thank you for not updating the existing chests. I hate when people who hold on to unopened chests are rewarded; keep doing this in the future.

I’m only holding onto my ~250 chests because I’m indecisive and can’t figure out if I want to be helpful to my server/guild and get siege/tactics, or be selfish and spend them all on unidentified dyes.

Will WvW Ascended Gear (Skirmish TicketS) be changed to include PoF Stat sets?

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Kitta.3657:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Serenity.6135:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

Awesome, thank you!

One more question, will these be available in skirmish chests, like proofs of heroics?

There will be a new skirmish chest with the new currency in them.

Will that new chest replace the old ones in a retroactive manner?

All skirmish chests earned before PoF launch will contain Proof of Heroics. All skirmish chests earned after will have the new currency.

If all the post pof chest include the new currency then which will be the ways to aquire proofs for hot specific stuff? Also why is this nesessary? I mena why not simply lock the pof gear behind tab that unlock with purchase of pof and the curremcy remains the same? Too many currencies might over conplicate stuff 3 exoacs down the line.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Kitta.3657:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Serenity.6135:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

Awesome, thank you!

One more question, will these be available in skirmish chests, like proofs of heroics?

There will be a new skirmish chest with the new currency in them.

Will that new chest replace the old ones in a retroactive manner?

All skirmish chests earned before PoF launch will contain Proof of Heroics. All skirmish chests earned after will have the new currency.

Are the proof of heroics themselves being retired or are both going to be available in the new chest… also ranking up in WvW, does that provide the new currency or the old?

Vegeta.2563:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Kitta.3657:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Serenity.6135:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

Awesome, thank you!

One more question, will these be available in skirmish chests, like proofs of heroics?

There will be a new skirmish chest with the new currency in them.

Will that new chest replace the old ones in a retroactive manner?

All skirmish chests earned before PoF launch will contain Proof of Heroics. All skirmish chests earned after will have the new currency.

Are the proof of heroics themselves being retired or are both going to be available in the new chest… also ranking up in WvW, does that provide the new currency or the old?

I also would like to know the answer to this question. I don’t think I agree with just flat our removing proofs of heroics completely. I mean, some players are just now going to be buying HoT when they buy PoF. It wouldn’t be fair to them to not allow them to gain proofs of heroics.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Cindas.6149:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

There will be a new skirmish chest with the new currency in them.

Thank you for this information.

After PoF releases, will Proof of Heroics still be available to buy HoT sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points at the current exchange rates?

There are players with many thousands of unspent Proofs of Heroics and there will be new HoT purchasers that would like to buy HoT goods and hero points…

I have many characters that I have not bothered to spent Proof of Heroics on and that have not gained their HoT skills. Should I consider spending them now or after PoF releases..

If past experiences teaches me anything, it’s likely that this system will change a lot more than we are currently being told.

Ref:
[Notarized Scroll of Heroics]
[Notarized Scroll of Maguuma Heroics

You will still be able to purchase everything you can now with Proof of Heroics.

I think the question was if there will still be a way to earn Proof of Heroics? Since there are items such as the legendary backpack and armor that require the currency to make them?

McKenna didn’t say this, but the other main way of acquiring Proofs of Heroics is from WvW rank up chests. I imagine that will continue to exist.

Maybe it will, maybe it won’t. There’s no real reason to remove proofs of heroics from the skirmish chest imo, it would be better to offer both, or offer them the option to choose 1 or the other. So since heroics are getting flat out removed, there’s nothing saying they weren’t also flat out removed from rank up chests, though I really hope they weren’t.

someone kill me now!!!

They must have an entire department just to come up with all these ‘currencies’. Its gone past an insane number of them.

I understand that the new chest in wvw will have the new currency but it really infuriates me that I have thousands of PoF and they are almost useless. At least give the players a chance to exchange at some kind of rate to get the new currency. I have 26 toons all specced out and elites so so PoF is coming out with new stats, gear, runes etc and my PoH are pretty much wasted now. I knew they would introduce a new currency but wow now I have to do all that over again. I hate pve to no end.I only do what i need to do to get to wvw. No interest at all in it. All I love to do if fight other players in wvw. Spvp….limiting and a bit boring but not without its benefits but I learned all my toons in wvw and how to fight except afte the tome boon lol. My point is this sure we can use the PoH for stuff still but with the new expansion whats the point? I can just rip them from my toons and transfer them if I want them. All my toons are geared the way they are for the current builds. I know things changed when the new expansion launches but now I have to start all over again as if the current currency no longer has any currency.

Bottom line is I am miffed they didnt have some way to convert the old to the new at a significant ratio at least. Or at least allow PoH to be used to purchase the new runes, sigils etc. I never did like the pve portion of HoT and to do it all again……simply not interested. Ill wait until launch to see if anything changes. Guess we will see……

It’s kinda odd but you can use the current Proofs of Heroics to unlock all Hero Points in the game and have over three hundred skill points for your character after fully unlocking all skills including the HoT elite specs.

This new currency will only be needed for runes, sigils, recipes and other materials. Eventually when you have loads you will use it to unlock the PoF Hero Points in order to prepare for the next set of elite specs. But that’ll be a year or two. So purely for items to begin with.

So the question asked a few times now is will there be a way to get Proofs of Heroics? The way McKenna phrased it it sounds like they are going to replace Proofs of Heroics in the skirmish chests with the new currency but I assume those without PoF will still get Proofs of Heroics in their skirmish chests so I guess there will probably still be an option to choose Heroics for people with PoF too?

this honestly annoys me. For what purpose can PvE players unlock their elite specs in a single evening but WvW players are hard time gated? Atleast WvW players had to prepare to get elite specs on day 1 but now all that preparation is just kinda wasted.

wow itll take like 10 minutes to wander around to the channel hero points in 1/2 the maps and get ~100 of the 250 points youll need and the other 150 are prolly already unlocked on your characters how is this a big deal lol

So, we will be earning two type of currencies at a time or you can only choose to earn one currency at a time?

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We will be adding a new currency that is similar to Proof of Heroics that will allow you to buy new sigils, runes, recipes, and hero points from PoF.

What does this mean for Proof of Heroics? Will we only be able to get them via ranking up? Will be not be able to get them at all anymore?

Essentially:

Proofs of Heroics will let you buy Heart of Thorns Hero Points, and HoT Runes, Sigils, Recipes, etc.

The New Currency will let you buy Path of Fire Hero Points, and PoF Runes, Sigils, Recipes, etc.

The reason for tihs separation is because when you use a Notarized Scroll of Heroics, it doesn’t just give you 1/10 Hero Points. It basically instantly completes a random Hero Point for you. So, it makes sense to distinguish between randomly completing a HoT HP and a PoF HP, especially for people who own one but not the other.

Rangerdeity.5847:

this honestly annoys me. For what purpose can PvE players unlock their elite specs in a single evening but WvW players are hard time gated? Atleast WvW players had to prepare to get elite specs on day 1 but now all that preparation is just kinda wasted.

Do you not read or something? You will still be able to buy the Notarized Scroll of Heroics and Notarized Scroll of Maguuma Heroics to get Hero Points to max out your elite spec on minute 1.

insanemaniac.2456:

wow itll take like 10 minutes to wander around to the channel hero points in 1/2 the maps and get ~100 of the 250 points youll need and the other 150 are prolly already unlocked on your characters how is this a big deal lol

If you played the HoT maps at all you’ll know that’s not true and that initially some of the hero points were either insanely hard to get to, or were guarded by champs/veterans that you needed a group to take down. So if Anet is true to form, none of us are unlocking an elite spec in a single evening, never mind “ten minutes”.

Namer.9750:

Essentially:

Proofs of Heroics will let you buy Heart of Thorns Hero Points, and HoT Runes, Sigils, Recipes, etc.

The New Currency will let you buy Path of Fire Hero Points, and PoF Runes, Sigils, Recipes, etc.

The reason for tihs separation is because when you use a Notarized Scroll of Heroics, it doesn’t just give you 1/10 Hero Points. It basically instantly completes a random Hero Point for you. So, it makes sense to distinguish between randomly completing a HoT HP and a PoF HP, especially for people who own one but not the other.

Rangerdeity.5847:

this honestly annoys me. For what purpose can PvE players unlock their elite specs in a single evening but WvW players are hard time gated? Atleast WvW players had to prepare to get elite specs on day 1 but now all that preparation is just kinda wasted.

Do you not read or something? You will still be able to buy the Notarized Scroll of Heroics and Notarized Scroll of Maguuma Heroics to get Hero Points to max out your elite spec on minute 1.

He is saying it’s hard gated (wrong word to use really), because you now have to grind this new currency from day one to buy the notarized scrolls that unlock the new PoF hero points. Your stock piled proof of heroics cannot be used to buy the scrolls to unlock the new maps hero points.