Guild Wars 2

So maybe I’m missing something – but if your server is kinda crap at wvw, how are you supposed to get the vistas from the green sections in the WvW maps if they’re never open?

I’ve been waiting for over a month now for those areas to be open, or for a group to to siege them with, but no dice.

Hate to break it to ya but WvW isn’t about POI’s.
If I wanted world completion I’d have to do another 50% of the map. A playstyle I don’t like.
But don’t worry, Anet are going to cater for you guys soon enough, it’s already on the cards.

They are making the colors random soon. Don’t worry about transferring servers if you can handle waiting a bit longer.

Ynot.8397:

They are making the colors random soon. Don’t worry about transferring servers if you can handle waiting a bit longer.

Just to confirm this, please see Devon’s response: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/WvW-Map-Rotation-1/first#post1972598

And another: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Current-System-hampers-World-Completion/first#post1975221

He doesn’t specifically say that colors will be random, but something along those lines is in the pipeline.

I’m glad they are doing it. Each side has different advantages. Randomizing it helps even things out.

I also don’t want people who don’t want to engage in WvW just hanging around taking up spots from those that actually want to WvW. This way they can pop in, get them, pop out and free up that spot.

any updates on this? any word from ANET?

hoping this is in the next patch – when do they switch the maps? every week with patch?

If your server only help those people who defend your server everyday things might have been different. But some people just go to WvW to get vistas and poi. Not that I am blaming them because “to each his own” but I think you are partly to blame (if you are not helping in WvW) for your demise.

The only complaint I have with Map Completion is the redundancy of having to get the same points on three different maps. Not sure on the technical side but it should just require that you complete EB and one of the borderland maps instead of all 3 since they are all the same anyway.

I dunno. I got into WvW just to get map completion. But I did it by participating. I finally got all of WvW map stuff done…but now I end up playing WvW anyways instead of getting the 30% of the rest of map completion I am missing. :P
Short of it is, if you want to get map completion, earn it. You have to earn the rest of it. Most SPs require a fight anyways. Map completion essentially requires you “to do everything” so you dont really deserve it if you wont do everything, but thats just how I see it.

Though I do agree with the “earn it” sentiment Saelune, I don’t think putting them in WvWvW was the smartest idea on Anet’s part.

Map Completion is very much a PvE thing, so they really should have put that in dungeons or even counted PvE jump puzzles towards it.

WvWvW is a big PvP area with some PvE elements. The former taking more priority than the latter. If ANet really thought out the “do everything” idea they would have incorporated structured PvP maps in somehow too, but didn’t.

This was a goof up on their part, but with server rotations of colors or something similar there’s at least some attempt to correct it.

This way the folks that want to WvWvW won’t have to deal with queue times too badly because people not really interested in it aren’t mucking up the spots.
Folks that aren’t interested don’t feel ‘forced’ which wouldn’t add to any tension between groups.

If people truly are interested they’ll come regardless of Map Completion.

I agree about the earn it sentiment too – but if your server is never in the green position, and you can’t get a team to storm certain keeps, it’s impossible to get world complete, earn or not.

Thank you ANET.

I’m sure you this was in the works well before my post, but I’d like to think you listened:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/big-changes-coming-to-wvw-matchups/