Guild Wars 2

Malediktus.9250:

yanniell.1236:

Was already suggested tons of times before. U guys should read the topic about it.

Cant hurt to remember Anet that we still want this.

Yea! Cause that worked so well with precursor scavenger hunts and new legendaries… (Both things they’re constantly reminded about.)

Because the precursor hunt would probably turn the economy upside down and new legendary are likely saved for something like an expansion.
Fixing these achievements would not affect the economy at all.

Aww c’mon, I’m at 999,998 yaks killed right now! Don’t change it! /sarc

I almost have the 100k supply used for repair. That took 2.5 years. The next tier is 1 million supply used. At the rate I’m going, I’ll finish that 22.5 years from now.

Fixing this is not only not a priority. It’s off the table.

Maybe buying some more gems would help putting it back on the table?

Malediktus.9250:

Here are what I would find realistic requirements for the final tier of the WvW achievements - based on my 4 digit hours I spend on different activities in WvW:

Realm Avenger: Kill 50,000 players (that equals tagging and destroying 1000 - 50 men zergs) - down from 250k kills
Yakslapper: Kill 3,000 enemy supply caravans. - down from 1m dolyak caravans
A Pack Dolyak’s Best Friend: Successfully escort 1,000 supply caravans. - down from 500k escorts
Repair Master: Spend 25,000 supply on repairs. - down from 1m supplies
Take Everything in Sight: Capture 10,000 objectives. (Eotm reactors and special objectives count towards this) - down from 1m objectives
Going Camping: Capture 2,500 supply camps. - down from 100k camps
It’s Quite Roomy in Here : Capture 2,500 towers. - down from 100k towers
All We See, We Own: Capture 1,000 keeps. (keeps take more effort to capture and less available in total) - down from 100k keeps
King of the Castle: Capture Stonemist Castle 500 times. - down from 25k castles
Stay Out!: Defend 3,000 objectives. - down from 1m objectives
Walls Get in the Way: Defend 500 supply camps. (Camps are tricky to defend and no walls you can repair for easy defense events, event often does not trigger even if you killed agressors) - down from 500k camp defenses
Stopped Them Cold: Defend 1,000 towers. - down from 500k defenses
Nice View From Up Here: Defend 1,000 keeps. - down from 500k defenses
Stonemist Stands Firm–Again: Defend Stonemist Castle 1,000 times. - down from 500k defenses

I think these requirements would motivate more people to play WvW - and more importantly do all aspects of WvW including dolyak escorts and defending. I expect with these requirements it would take about 2000 hours (= 5.5hours per day for a year) for the average player to max out WvW achievements.

Agree
I.e. 500k SM defenses - what? How many years I need to sit in the EB only and only at SM?
Every defense event goes for 3 min. So, 60/3=20 per hour. If you are playing for 4 hours per day it will be 80 defense events per day.
So, 500k/80=6250/365= 17
SEVENTEEN YEARS!
And only if SM will be 100% of time yours and 100% of time attacked by some forces, not strong enough to take it. Obviously, this is impossible, so the real time will be more in 2 or even 3 times!

it is sad they can’t fix it with alllllllll this time that has passed. BUT its even more sad that it was implemented in the first place. They must have had someone with grade school math skills make the final totals and how it was signed off on it nobody caught that. lol

Many Achieved 250k Kills. So u would get it too.

schnitzel.9018:

Many Achieved 250k Kills. So u would get it too.

maybe if you go to eotm and farm uplevels >.>

schnitzel.9018:

Many Achieved 250k Kills. So u would get it too.

Many? Lol! Zero in comparison with number of WvW-players (not even with a total number of players)

schnitzel.9018:

Many Achieved 250k Kills. So u would get it too.

Not that many and most of them farmed kills in T1

The current system encourages players to not care about achievements. If this attitude spills over to LS, Anet is in trouble because achievements seems to be one of the major reasons people bother to log in.

Ah the ever-evolving world of WvW, where new players continue to suggest ideas which were suggested the year before by players who have left the game, which were suggested the year before by older players who have left the game.

ah good times.

Pinkamena Diane Pie.8054:

Ah the ever-evolving world of WvW, where new players continue to suggest ideas which were suggested the year before by players who have left the game, which were suggested the year before by older players who have left the game.

ah good times.

too bad I am not new :p

Malediktus.9250:

Pinkamena Diane Pie.8054:

Ah the ever-evolving world of WvW, where new players continue to suggest ideas which were suggested the year before by players who have left the game, which were suggested the year before by older players who have left the game.

ah good times.

too bad I am not new :p

Then you should know that Devon said that they will be doing something Soon™.

(though what they did was make WvW seasons and add achievements you can get within the first hour. That was their solution. /thread.)

10,000 possible ranks points and only 1,400ish can be used…… how about rank point buyable multipliers for titles?

Roach.1395:

10,000 possible ranks points and only 1,400ish can be used…… how about rank point buyable multipliers for titles?

It would have to be a huge multipler. I think just cutting down the requirements is the easiest solution.

I don’t disagree with the HUGE multiplier bit….. by my math to get ONLY 1 of the defense titles it would take a year to get (non stop 3 minute timer x 20 per hour x 24 per day x 365 days per year = 525,000)…… factor in approximate reset delay, lack of continuous attacks, and the ever obvious ‘player need sleep/washroom/work/school break’ factor…… yeah I doubt anyone has 1 let alone 2 of these titles near completion (if you can prove me wrong please do). I haven’t been playing wvw since launch but in the past year my stats seem to be daily averaging: 1-2 World Ranks, 7-8 attack title points (including dolyak, camp, tower, keep and smc TOGETHER), and 1-2 defend title points (including all of them again). I only average about 2-1/2 hours daily, and currently I don’t any (except possibly Yakslapper) being even a remote possiblility.

What about: 500 WxP Points (x2 Attacker/Defender Points)
1000 WxP Points (x5 Attacker/Defender Points)
2000 WxP Points (x10 Attacker/Defender Points)
Obviously don’t make these additive, and it then essentially makes it possible (for me as an example) to actually achieve at least 1 of the titles in approximately 1-1/2 years (7-8 daily x 365 days x 10 multiplier = ~250,000-292,000ish).
I’m pulling the numbers out of the air so alter it if you want but obviously don’t make it too easy or too hard to obtain remember.

The person who came up with these achievement numbers was clearly still intoxicated after the weekend.

aspirine.6852:

The person who came up with these achievement numbers was clearly still intoxicated after the weekend.

And the QA failed to see this flaw

Perhaps the half million dolyak escort is the most brutal. Perhaps not. If i give 3 minutes per escort, it takes up 25000 hours (!) in active escort (without the time when you running for a dolly or dolly get killed) which is means only this achievement takes 1041 days in active escort to complete this ach. Which is impossible, because sometimes a stronger player(s) beats you up with your dolly during escort

BlackPot.4521:

Perhaps the half million dolyak escort is the most brutal. Perhaps not. If i give 3 minutes per escort, it takes up 25000 hours (!) in active escort (without the time when you running for a dolly or dolly get killed) which is means only this achievement takes 1041 days in active escort to complete this ach. Which is impossible, because sometimes a stronger player(s) beats you up with your dolly during escort

Seriously? 1k days? You don’t need to sleep, eat, toilet, work/study? Are you cyborg?

It could be awesome if they add bonuses to wvw ranks. Bonus gold, karma, magic find etc after x ranks

BlackPot.4521:

Perhaps the half million dolyak escort is the most brutal. Perhaps not. If i give 3 minutes per escort, it takes up 25000 hours (!) in active escort (without the time when you running for a dolly or dolly get killed) which is means only this achievement takes 1041 days in active escort to complete this ach. Which is impossible, because sometimes a stronger player(s) beats you up with your dolly during escort

Its outrageous.

Malediktus.9250:

aspirine.6852:

The person who came up with these achievement numbers was clearly still intoxicated after the weekend.

And the QA failed to see this flaw

The QA had already been moved to LS…

How about the fact that you can get several hundred achievement points for ranking up in PvP and yet we get no points at all for ranking up in WvW?

A little love for people that spend most of their time in WvW would be nice.

psizone.8437:

How about the fact that you can get several hundred achievement points for ranking up in PvP and yet we get no points at all for ranking up in WvW?

A little love for people that spend most of their time in WvW would be nice.

+1 to +10 AP per rank tier eg. Gold-Invader would sound good to me and motivate me to go for Diamond Legend.

so any changes on this for the expansion?

pepper.6179:

so any changes on this for the expansion?

Lets hope so. Its probably our last hope for it to ever happen.

If they dont fix it with the expansion, they’ll never do.

They supposedly were “placeholders” two years ago….and they are still holding that place.

Keep the Ultimate Dominator how it is, you americans should just learn how to have fun, Less PPT more PPK! And I know what I’m talking about cos EU has a over abundance of Ultimate Doms and our own rank 10k (bless his grindy heart), but I haven’t heard of ultimate dominators on NA nor have I heard of people that speak about them.

So leave your sentry stacking to night shifts and go enjoy the glorious GW2 combat system like a good zergling.

Sreoom.3690:

They supposedly were “placeholders” two years ago….and they are still holding that place.

Sad but true

Malediktus.9250:

psizone.8437:

How about the fact that you can get several hundred achievement points for ranking up in PvP and yet we get no points at all for ranking up in WvW?

A little love for people that spend most of their time in WvW would be nice.

+1 to +10 AP per rank tier eg. Gold-Invader would sound good to me and motivate me to go for Diamond Legend.

Yup, +10 AP per new rank and +50 per new colour.

funassistant.6589:

Keep the Ultimate Dominator how it is, you americans should just learn how to have fun, Less PPT more PPK! And I know what I’m talking about cos EU has a over abundance of Ultimate Doms and our own rank 10k (bless his grindy heart), but I haven’t heard of ultimate dominators on NA nor have I heard of people that speak about them.

So leave your sentry stacking to night shifts and go enjoy the glorious GW2 combat system like a good zergling.

Are you sure you posted this in the right topic? Cause it really makes no sense at all.

psizone.8437:

Malediktus.9250:

psizone.8437:

How about the fact that you can get several hundred achievement points for ranking up in PvP and yet we get no points at all for ranking up in WvW?

A little love for people that spend most of their time in WvW would be nice.

+1 to +10 AP per rank tier eg. Gold-Invader would sound good to me and motivate me to go for Diamond Legend.

Yup, +10 AP per new rank and +50 per new colour.

Anything would be better than now, where there is no reason to keep gaining WvW ranks after you have all the stuff maxed

To all the guys doing the math in here: They know the numbers are unrealistic. I can’t be bothered to find the exact post, but when this was discussed over 2 years ago some dev stated the numbers were placeholder numbers used for testing purposes, and were never supposed to be in the final game. Somehow it was overlooked and now it’s hard or even impossible to fix.

Garrisyl.7402:

To all the guys doing the math in here: They know the numbers are unrealistic. I can’t be bothered to find the exact post, but when this was discussed over 2 years ago some dev stated the numbers were placeholder numbers used for testing purposes, and were never supposed to be in the final game. Somehow it was overlooked and now it’s hard or even impossible to fix.

They change the daily achievements on a regular basis with no apparent problem. They’ve added new collection achievements. Each LS has new achievements. But it’s “hard or even impossible to fix” WvW achievements??? Tell me another one, you’re killing me.

It shouldn’t be any more difficult than changing the numbers in a table somewhere in the code. The question that has people perplexed is WHY these ridiculous achievement numbers haven’t been changed after all this time and ever so many complaint threads on the subject.

TobyTucker.5317:

They change the daily achievements on a regular basis with no apparent problem. They’ve added new collection achievements. Each LS has new achievements. But it’s “hard or even impossible to fix” WvW achievements??? Tell me another one, you’re killing me.

You are comparing apples and oranges here. They don’t change the daily achievements, they rotate them. Also, adding new achievements isn’t the problem, as proven by the various WvW season achievements. It’s fixing/adjusting existing ones. People already have some progress in them. I mean sure, they could probably delete all the achievements and make us start from scratch, but that would leave a lot of people, including me, pretty kittened off.

TobyTucker.5317:

It shouldn’t be any more difficult than changing the numbers in a table somewhere in the code.

First off, how do you know? Secondly, if it really were as easy as changing some numbers in a table, they would have already done it, no matter how hard you want to believe they wouldn’t.

TobyTucker.5317:

The question that has people perplexed is WHY these ridiculous achievement numbers haven’t been changed after all this time and ever so many complaint threads on the subject.

Agreed, even though it may be hard, 2 and a half years should be plenty of time to do something about it. Instead we get the same old silence as we’re used to from other highly discussed topics.

its just a lazy excuse. For example they when they updated sPvP achievements they lowered the requirements and added new tiers to 2 achievements.

I’ve seen a few people walking around with the Ultimate Dominator title, so it’s clearly not an impossible task, but thinking about much these folks must have played WvW over the past 2,5 years makes my head spin. My progression towards being an Ultimate Dominator is little over 24% right now and I play WvW on a tier 1 server quite often.

LucosTheDutch.4819:

I’ve seen a few people walking around with the Ultimate Dominator title, so it’s clearly not an impossible task, but thinking about much these folks must have played WvW over the past 2,5 years makes my head spin. My progression towards being an Ultimate Dominator is little over 24% right now and I play WvW on a tier 1 server quite often.

Ultimate Dominator and that’s it, show me someone else with any of the other titles.

Avit.3165:

LucosTheDutch.4819:

I’ve seen a few people walking around with the Ultimate Dominator title, so it’s clearly not an impossible task, but thinking about much these folks must have played WvW over the past 2,5 years makes my head spin. My progression towards being an Ultimate Dominator is little over 24% right now and I play WvW on a tier 1 server quite often.

Ultimate Dominator and that’s it, show me someone else with any of the other titles.

I know someone who has the Yakslapper title. But other than that I haven’t seen anyone with any of the other WvW titles.

Nevermind I just asked and she doesn’t actually have it but she’s working on it, lol.

LucosTheDutch.4819:

Avit.3165:

LucosTheDutch.4819:

I’ve seen a few people walking around with the Ultimate Dominator title, so it’s clearly not an impossible task, but thinking about much these folks must have played WvW over the past 2,5 years makes my head spin. My progression towards being an Ultimate Dominator is little over 24% right now and I play WvW on a tier 1 server quite often.

Ultimate Dominator and that’s it, show me someone else with any of the other titles.

I know someone who has the Yakslapper title. But other than that I haven’t seen anyone with any of the other WvW titles.

Physically impossible in the time the game has been released. Screenshots or it didnt happen.

1m dolyaks is nothing to sneeze at.

Malediktus.3740:

LucosTheDutch.4819:

Avit.3165:

LucosTheDutch.4819:

I’ve seen a few people walking around with the Ultimate Dominator title, so it’s clearly not an impossible task, but thinking about much these folks must have played WvW over the past 2,5 years makes my head spin. My progression towards being an Ultimate Dominator is little over 24% right now and I play WvW on a tier 1 server quite often.

Ultimate Dominator and that’s it, show me someone else with any of the other titles.

I know someone who has the Yakslapper title. But other than that I haven’t seen anyone with any of the other WvW titles.

Physically impossible in the time the game has been released. Screenshots or it didnt happen.

Nah you’re right, I thought she had it but she just told me she doesn’t but that she’s working on it.

I just did a quick calculation and realized that in order to get that title in 2,5 years you have to kill 1000+ Dolyaks per day. No single person can do that.

892 (days GW2 is online) * 24 (hours of the day) * 12 (dolayak respawns per hour) * 6 (no of camps on a map) * 2 (2 dollies per camp) = 3’082’752

If you do it 8h per day, on a Map where your side do not own any camp and never miss a dolly you could have made it

But I was to lazy, only 3’738 dollies in 892 days so far

Unrealistic conditions. Even if your faction does not have any camps on your map, you still need to have luck having no competitors who also want to kill Dolyaks or roamers who kill you. Even if you play on fissure of woe I doubt you have those ideal conditions 8 hours or more per day to meet your calculations.

maybe they will finaly admit that the achivments are unrealistic and change them with the expansion #thedream

Sekai.2987:

maybe they will finaly admit that the achivments are unrealistic and change them with the expansion #thedream

Devon already admitted these achievements are unrealistic and theyre looking in to it and maybe come with a fix. Been said 8-9 months ago.

I bet with the new mastery system they will be some changes to wvw achievements. It would be nice if we see ways to use wvw achievements to cover for some pve mastery.