Guild Wars 2

Yay for karma train Saturday! This was the best idea eva!
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Dear Anet guys, with such a change you are going to swap a nice and entertaining day like saturday, usually full of fights and fun, for a dead day where ppl will just slack around waiting for the reset. I m really confused, what is the meaning ?

I really don’t want to be bad but sometimes i feel like you have no idea how WvW works.

Just when I thought WvW couldn’t die any faster you guys pull this off. 10/10 I couldn’t kill WvW this well even if I tried.

Hey anet I only play if my server is winning and as soon as a server leads mine by 10k or more I ragequit until next reset. Please design your game around me.

This change to WvW reset time does not support growth in active play, and heavily inhibits the Oceanic community. Reducing our active weekend play to half a day (Sunday afternoon/evening). Please reconsider this WvW reset time change.

Seriously please reconsider changing the reset schedule. I’m from SEA and when the reset happens it’ll be SUNDAY already for us. Friday has always been excellent. Don’t need to elaborate further because other OCX/SEA have already voiced out their opinions thoroughly but I’m just here to further strengthen OCX/SEA’s ‘minority’ voice.

Xenesis.6389:

Maybe one of the reasons is that mini patches they deploy at the end of day friday, won’t interrupt reset night like they do almost every friday night now.

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Please don’t give them any idea to make a good excuse. They don’t have one to start with and will read the forums for some saving face ideas.

I loved the Friday as reset day.. Was a great way to start the weekend. Really hope you guys turn it back to Fridays! I can understand you want to move it for the release for HoT but make it just 1 day shorter and resume the normal schedule on the next Friday.

No thanks, please reconsider turning the weekend of all things into dead play time.

Chris Barrett.3280:

Here’s what the Heart of Thorns release will look like for WvW:

# WvW’s reset time will be changed to be 24 hours later in NA and EU. It will now occur on Saturdays instead of Fridays.
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Please NO ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i dont wanna Karma train at Saturday night....
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Blackgate - sea guild (Ra) officer

I’m just going to come out and say it, this is terrible for Oceanic/SEA players.

Reset moved from Saturday (11am-2pm) → Sunday (11am-2pm).

Basically instead of being able to play Saturday and Sunday, can only play Sunday, nobody will raid on Saturday at the end of the match-up when it’s already been decided.

If you wanted to kill WvW, just remove it completely from the game, don’t do this to us.

Masteravatar.1509:

^^^ In future please dont launch “Non Critical Patches” during first few hours of reset.

It make the entire WvW community feel like irrelivant plebs of GW2.

“Show the Love for WvW”

This change is probably to ensure that doesn’t happen. Its all very well to demand that critical patches don’t be done on a Friday but I’m unsure if that feasible.

gmanual.6519:

nobody will raid on Saturday at the end of the match-up when it’s already been decided.

That is why changing the scoring system should be top priority.

People fussing about when matchups are reset should be asking for a scoring change like time slices instead.

People who want the type of action reset offers should be asking for changes to EoTM.

Very, very bad idea.

Do you want HoT release and new map pop at same time than reset? Easy: lock maps from friday (wvw reset) to saturday (HoT release) and make this next matchup to go from this saturday to the next friday, returning to the natural schedule (friday to friday). So, you’ll release the new map and all ready.

But to change the natural reset time to saturday from now? Ehm… no.

This change to WvW reset time does not support growth in active play, and heavily inhibits the Oceanic community. Reducing our active weekend play to half a day (Sunday afternoon/evening). Please reconsider this WvW reset time change.

Not only is this a terrible idea, I think that cutting back the SEA/OCX time in WvW will lose a large amount of our already strained WvW population. Even for NA/EU, this is such a terrible idea. Please reconsider the change you want to make to our beloved WvW. Keep WvW resets on Fridays and allow us to keep what little we have in WvW. Don’t kill this part of the game for those of us that love this aspect of the game. We want to be able to play all weekend long. Not just for half a day. Sundays are shortened time for people since the work week resumes for most of Mondays. Why cut our time to battle it out on the weekend? PLEASE PLEASE reconsider this terrible idea.

I am going to chime in and add my voice to the crowd. I Do NOT want our reset moved back a day. My guild raids late PST/Early OCX and by doing so like others have listed are effectively crippling half my OCX members by giving them 6 hours of weekend gameplay. If ANET thinks that Friday is a bad day for reset due to patches, events, PvP tournaments or whatnot I think they should move the reset day. But do not make it halfway through our weekend!

Many people have stated that the last day or 2 of the matchup is more of a karma train/ghosttown depending on server population so by taking out all of Friday and most of Saturday you are killing over 24 hours of prime WvW fights. I think that if you wish to move the date, pick any other day Monday-Thursday as a solution.

One reason why this would be beneficial is that WvW is: players would not have to be upset at Friday night patches kicking us all out of maps and messing up the queues. You could move reset halfway through the week (say Wednesday) and that would really change the way the scores work. As many people have said, over the weekend the massive player activity increase allows much of the score and match tone to be set. But if you moved it halfway through the week, the weekend fights would have a much larger impact in final scores leaving Monday and Tuesday to be break days. We have been told that Devs are trying to give some attention to the negelcted 1/3 of their main game modes but a decision like this without any feedback from the community is not the best approach.

So, to reiterate, ANET, if you want to move reset please pick Wednesday (or any weekday Monday-Thursday) and you will get a much smaller backlash from a very dedicated community that hasn’t been shown much love in over 3 years.

Please reconsider the change to WvW reset. The transfer lock is already slowly strangling the OCX and SEA timezones, particularly given recent events in NA.

Changing reset night like this will make things even worse for our friends and will wind up forcing more guilds and players out of the game by halving the most active period of play.

Just freaking launch HoT 3am on Wednesday or something. Give a couple days to patch this and that before FRIDAY reset. Patching the game on the busiest WvW day of the week is the height of stupidity anyway. Get your head out; I defend you to people, but jeez you make it hard to do so.

There goes my guild’s entire weekend.

Being an OCX and SEA based WvW guild, we have scheduled our raid nights for when we have the most participation – weekends (we’re an adult guild, we can’t raid nearly as much on the weekdays because work). Since you guys don’t give us our own regional servers (along with 0 marketing here whatsoever – I haven’t seen a single HoT poster in any games/electronic retailer here), we’re stuck playing on your NA servers, living with ridiculously high latency and having to deal with the skill lag that comes with it.

If you want us to bugger off, then make it clearer why don’t you? My guild has already made plans to move off if HoT didn’t turn out to be what we expected. This is only accelerating that move.

This change to WvW reset time does not support growth in active play, and heavily inhibits the Oceanic community. Reducing our active weekend play to half a day (Sunday afternoon/evening). Please reconsider this WvW reset time change.

If the reset-time alteration is part of the promised upcoming changes:
and is also a change which means that reset time will be exciting and decisive even when being trounced:
then this could be a good change.

If the matches are already decided days before reset, it’s definitely a bad thing because people will be sitting around on Friday evening in huge numbers waiting for a crap match to end.

I agree, that Monday is a good time since less people are playing then in NA and EU. Also, Monday goes along with the Guild Missions reset time. It would be less confusing to people if WvW and Guild Missions both reset on Monday.

Also, when WvW rating resets on the Saturday after HoT. Will that mean the WvW leaderboards will also reset?

I’m not sure adding an additional days wait to reset, will make any positive difference to the current duration of MUs. It will feel like you a longer wait for the MU to end.

If anything it could be shorter and end sooner.

This timing change is the strangest changes ever. Friday is the BEST day for reset. Fridays will be dead in WvW since the match ups are usually decided. Servers plan on the reset and the HIGHEST participation is on Friday since most are off on Saturday and they can stay up later.

I for one can’t participate on Saturdays due to real life. Please reconsider. There doesn’t seem to be a real reason for your change. It’s like you’re saying it was just a whim and kitten the WvW players.

Sayonara, RESET NIGHT.

Logged in to specifically register my strong opposition to this change. How was this decision made – was there some polling done we don’t know about???

Korel.3185:

Logged in to specifically register my strong opposition to this change. How was this decision made – was there some polling done we don’t know about???

Not to mention it was announced at basically the last minute. How could they solicit feedback? Seems like a rushed, ill conceived change.

This is just going to ruin it for Oceanic guilds/servers who already struggle and dont get as much weekend WvW time. There are alot of players that actually have jobs and making reset on a Sunday night for us is just rubbish. Clearly theres being little or no thought put into this decision and we all know Anet dont back down no matter how big a kitten up they make, rip WvW.

Dear anet, please reconsider this decision.

As a SEA player, with the current system, it allows us to play reset on a saturday morning. And raid late into the night on a saturday evening, sometimes up to 3am on sunday morning.

With the new proposed system, we won’t be able to raid late anymore on sunday due to real life, work/studying. As such our enjoyment of the game will plummet a lot.

Saturday will be a ktrain night instead of an action packed night because scores are usually decided by then. and people will be ktraining the borderlands.

As such i urge that you reconsider your decision to switch around the reset date.

I also like how the word “kitten” was inserted instead of what i used :p

Are we getting any new traits we can spend our excess points on? I have lots of points sitting around unused.

WvW’s reset time will be changed to be 24 hours later in NA and EU. It will now occur on Saturdays instead of Fridays.

Could you please elaborate on why this is being done? Without some context it just seems to be a bad thing for OCX and SEA players.

This change negatively impacts my guild in a huge way. We may as well not play GW2 anymore, being a WvW focused guild and our main raid night being relegated to karma train night (since it would be less than 16 hours to reset from the time we start our raids).

SEA guild can karma train choo choo at Staurday night (on vacation weekend ) hahaa

kitten is anet thinking to make changes like this one…

Can we get a recall on this? Or, at least a recall on whomever actually thought of this??? Oh, and in typical Anet fashion, no one cared to communicate with the player base and ask if it’s something we’d enjoy first.

DeWolfe.2174:

Can we get a recall on this? Or, at least a recall on whomever actually thought of this??? Oh, and in typical Anet fashion, no one cared to communicate with the player base and ask if it’s something we’d enjoy first.

ANet? Communicate with WvW players? When’s that ever happened outside a couple guys who came in here to talk about security measures and banning hackers (love those guys).

It’s always been them dictating to us what they think is good for the game, which has resulted in drastic declines in the hardcore population in the only hardcore game mode they have.

displayname.8315:

Good move changing the reset. Having the score tied to weekend OT pushes was killing the fun for a LOT of people. Now the tryhards don’t need to push for 50+ hours and demoralize the other servers.

displayname.8315:

Blake.7401:

Please reconsider the WvW reset time change.

The Oceanic WvW community is already sparse, and this change will reduce the active competitive weekend play to half a day (Sunday afternoon/evening).
Weekends have historically been the most active and fun time to participate in WvW. A change that reduces this by over half, will not help support the much needed Oceanic population growth.

Again, please kindly reconsider the change to WvW reset time.

Are you saying people won’t play on the weekend because of some warscore? Being a fairweather should not be an excuse to keep the reset on friday. If you want to play then just play.

displayname.8315:

Hey anet I only play if my server is winning and as soon as a server leads mine by 10k or more I ragequit until next reset. Please design your game around me.

You realize in your second 2 quotes you are actually making fun of yourself in your first post right?

Pretty dumb.

Don’t forget our OCX buddies. They live in the future, so it’s Sunday for them. Pretty crumby to have most of their weekend consist of the end of a match while they’ll have work the day after reset. The same is true for EU who play on NA servers. Their first prime time reset night will be on Sunday as well, so their Fridays and Saturdays are pretty lame end of match time.

Who the heck thought of this and why?

Wryscher.1432:

You realize in your second 2 quotes you are actually making fun of yourself in your first post right?

All 3 are making fun of people who PPT hero for that runaway score.

If what we want is weekend raids so we can “Dorritos and MT. Dew” all weekend then time slices is what matters, not when a new server matchup is made. IE play the last timeslice friday night, then you get a new matchup on Saturday.

Like all these OCX people are saying they already have less time on the weekend with time differences. What about people that don’t weekend warrior? Time slices would help with all these “reset ritual” people.

@displayname

Yet the people expressing their issues aren’t saying they play for ppt… Also, there is no need to make a dozen posts just to say the same thing. Additionally, that whole timeslice is not a solution, the problems with those ideas have long since been discussed.

I too would like to know why this change. This was not expected at all. Originally, WvW reset was supposed to eventually be every other week, but that never happened and with good reason. The split in times for EU reset and NA made sense. But this? Why this change?

I can understand why so many are upset that now WvW reset will be taking place on Mid weekend, while it has been taking place at the start of the weekend for everyone.

Arena Net I believe this is a mistake, and since most adults get more time during the weekend to play, the reset for wvw should stay on the “current” pre-HoT day/time. I do not think it should be moved to 24hrs later. (As the Current day/time pre-HoT expansion allows for people all over the world to take part in WvW during their weekends, while the new timing will make it so everyone only gets to play half of their weekend now. (Cutting down your players again.)

While personally I like the change as I will be able to play on reset’s, I also view the change as a bad decision and bad direction for the majority of players who play WvW from all over the world.

I just want to know, what is the rationale behind this change? What positive effect does Anet expect it to have?

Seems to me this’ll just turn Saturday from fun fights day to ktrain day, and I don’t think anyone was asking for that. Even for NA this change is bad, it’ll be worse for other time zones, especially OCX and SEA like many have already pointed out.

Yougottawanna.7420:

I just want to know, what is the rationale behind this change? What positive effect does Anet expect it to have?

To quote myself:

Oh.

Thinking further about it, I think I just realized the why for the change.

sPvP.

They regularly run sPvP weekend events, but with WvW in full heat it draw people away from sPvP during saturdays.

By making saturdays worthless for WvW, they are hoping to make more people play
sPvP instead.

It makes so much sense now.

Until Anet says anything to explain it, I firmly believe this is the reason.

Chris Barrett.3280:

This will be the end of the classic (“Alpine”) Borderlands maps for the foreseeable future.

Will the borderlands jumping puzzles be moved to “Retired Achievements”?

I gotta say I fear that friday and saturday will become “dead days” (=karmatrain days) as most matchups are already decided two days before reset. Just take a look at current EU matchups. Most of them are already pretty much decided (only two are pretty close). If matchups would be fair, the change of the reset day was a good choise in my opinion. Unfortunately, at the moment it is not.

Lunacy Solacio.6514:

Yet the people expressing their issues aren’t saying they play for ppt…

I don’t see how you could say that. The only reason people want it on friday is because of the score and people not playing because of the score. It’s all the score and the PPT nothing else.

What is the point of changing the reset time? I play OCX prime time and this means that Fridays and Saturdays will both be dead. Current reset time works well for all time zones. This will adversely affect WvW population, that is not really likely to benefit from HoT much anyway.

I am very disappointed about the reset time change. It ruins half the weekend for the reason posted a hundred times before my post and if some of the responsible devs ever played wvw seriously they should have known this. Golem week was not enough, eh?! If you need to shift reset night to coincide with HoT release then pls do it one-time and make the first matchup a 6-day week (and following ones 7 again).

BTW: please change your name to EA 2.0, you earned it

Any news about the 13 hero points earned on Alpine Bordelands, when Desert will go online?
Lost?