WvW and the Heart of Thorns Release
I’m really curious if ANET will listen to feedback from people.
Or even tell us WHY they are doing it.
Tifa Ran/Ranger with a Pet
Commander WvW – Henge of Denravi
WvW’s reset time will be changed to be 24 hours later in NA and EU. It will now occur on Saturdays instead of Fridays.
Please explain the reasoning behind this change.
I don’t think that the saturday reset is bad move and I don’t care about it. There will be more players (aka weekend warriors) around. Many players could go outside to enjoy a friday nightlife with their friends now. Of course, I feel sad for our ocx-players, I know a bunch of them who are dedicated defenders of the borderlands.
If you fear that the karma-friday become a karma-saturday, then it’s up to you real world versus world players to deny such request.
Defend structures, crash your zerg into the opposite karmatrain, hunt them until they log off or fight back. Work together to fight such behavior, save the normal wvw gameplay of your Tier. Don’t be worry or sad if you lost players because of that, they aren’t worth to lose a single tear, comrades. The whole idea of karmatrains in wvw belongs into the trash can of the history. I never understand why commanders have started this at all? You have now the unique chance to change it.
This is… the ignorance is… please stop…
Karma trains were started on Friday nights before reset as a way for the WvW community to come together and chill out a little. It became hijacked by PvEers looking for easy loot. Guilds then came together to farm karma trainers because they ruined what the WvW community had, pushing out those PvE karma trainers (mostly failing due to ANet’s own ineptitude at keeping WvW a hardcore game mode).
Current karma trains don’t happen because of any organisation to karma train. The current karma trains happen because no one cares to chase people down whose sole motivation is to farm some loot from NPCs. We form up 10-15 people to chase down 30-40 karma trainers, and then what? They disappear onto other maps to continue the hunt for some crappy loot. That’s not how we want to spend our Saturday evenings (OCX – Saturday mornings NA).
So you know what will happen? People will try and fight a while on Saturday evenings, but after a while, people will stop trying. There’s nothing to fight for for the PPT guilds since the scores are already decided, so there’s no targets for the fight guilds. With no fight guilds stopping karma trains, the karma trains start back up.
This is overall such a bad idea. If ANet wants to move WvW reset night away from patch night, just move it to a Wednesday or Thursday night NA. Us OCX and SEA players don’t get very much from this game due to the worst support I’ve ever seen (unless you’re NA or EU). At least let us have our weekend of play.
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Most people have normal jobs or are in school Monday through Friday. With the old system Friday night to Sunday night was care free play time that meant something. With the new system, all day Friday and most of Saturday will be pointless play as the matchup results are already determined by then most of the time. The end result will be less people logging into the game Friday to Saturday Night which in when most normal people actually have time to play.
This was not well thought out, is a slap in the face to the WvW community, and completely shows lack of any understanding of the WvW game mode.
ANET is already shooting themselves in the foot with the new maps being so poorly designed…. with this they are shooting themselves in the head.
Honestly, I was already on the fence about buying the xpac ……this made my decision a lot easier.
WvW’s reset time will be changed to be 24 hours later in NA and EU. It will now occur on Saturdays instead of Fridays.
Super sad. Say it aint so.
This isn’t just a bad thing for the players, it is a bad business decision as well. The fact that this change actually made it through what was probably several people at different levels within the company is scary.
Just the way, the information was posted by the programmer guy was in itself disheartening.
Usually, the Anet Devs at least try to explain in some way the reasoning behind the changes they are making, i.e… “we are doing this because we think it will improve such and such, or have a greater impact with whatever…”. But in this case we the players are simply “informed” that these are the changes that are to come… full stop.
Really disheartening…
Devs,mods, u have day off or what? U guys post this 24hrs ago we give us our Point of view, 99% says why changing the reset day. We don’t need a change in reset day. Please u guys having meetings about a reset day, why not talk about to improve the servers better so people have less lag spikes? Why not fixing those exploits on wvw? Nooooo lets talk about to change the reset day from Friday to Saturday. And yes do it, u guys don’t care about wvw players. Because again u fail to make stupid decisions, those 3 yrs what I have seen from wvw, we are the players who don’t care about the looks, we don’t care about how many achievement points, all we want is a stable less lag server. Tbh more we don’t need. We need only, fights, some stuff to defend or to take care of, that’s it. And what u guys do, create a whole new map with tons of PvE contents, no need imo, swapping reset day from Friday to Saturday, why? 24 hrs people asking why, u just don’t have a answer.
Elementalist
Honestly, I was already on the fence about buying the xpac ……this made my decision a lot easier.
i flat regret the purchase. (this is the final straw not the reason)
Devs,mods, u have day off or what? U guys post this 24hrs ago we give us our Point of view, 99% says why changing the reset day. We don’t need a change in reset day. Please u guys having meetings about a reset day, why not talk about to improve the servers better so people have less lag spikes? Why not fixing those exploits on wvw? Nooooo lets talk about to change the reset day from Friday to Saturday. And yes do it, u guys don’t care about wvw players. Because again u fail to make stupid decisions, those 3 yrs what I have seen from wvw, we are the players who don’t care about the looks, we don’t care about how many achievement points, all we want is a stable less lag server. Tbh more we don’t need. We need only, fights, some stuff to defend or to take care of, that’s it. And what u guys do, create a whole new map with tons of PvE contents, no need imo, swapping reset day from Friday to Saturday, why? 24 hrs people asking why, u just don’t have a answer.
Devs,mods, u have day off or what? U guys post this 24hrs ago we give us our Point of view, 99% says why changing the reset day. We don’t need a change in reset day. Please u guys having meetings about a reset day, why not talk about to improve the servers better so people have less lag spikes? Why not fixing those exploits on wvw? Nooooo lets talk about to change the reset day from Friday to Saturday. And yes do it, u guys don’t care about wvw players. Because again u fail to make stupid decisions, those 3 yrs what I have seen from wvw, we are the players who don’t care about the looks, we don’t care about how many achievement points, all we want is a stable less lag server. Tbh more we don’t need. We need only, fights, some stuff to defend or to take care of, that’s it. And what u guys do, create a whole new map with tons of PvE contents, no need imo, swapping reset day from Friday to Saturday, why? 24 hrs people asking why, u just don’t have a answer.
Hahahahahaha i forgot that there was this video!!! Hahahah
Elementalist
Devs,mods, u have day off or what? U guys post this 24hrs ago we give us our Point of view, 99% says why changing the reset day. We don’t need a change in reset day. Please u guys having meetings about a reset day, why not talk about to improve the servers better so people have less lag spikes? Why not fixing those exploits on wvw? Nooooo lets talk about to change the reset day from Friday to Saturday. And yes do it, u guys don’t care about wvw players. Because again u fail to make stupid decisions, those 3 yrs what I have seen from wvw, we are the players who don’t care about the looks, we don’t care about how many achievement points, all we want is a stable less lag server. Tbh more we don’t need. We need only, fights, some stuff to defend or to take care of, that’s it. And what u guys do, create a whole new map with tons of PvE contents, no need imo, swapping reset day from Friday to Saturday, why? 24 hrs people asking why, u just don’t have a answer.
Hahahahahaha i forgot that there was this video!!! Hahahah
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I watch this thing anymore.
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Still no reply from anet, pathetic absolutely pathetic, is this what a forum is for? Anet stop with this ridiculous attitude of telling us how and when to play this game. I dont give a crap about pvp, fractals or raids I want to have wvw fights on a map of my choosing.
Honesty is not insulting, stupidity is.
>Class Balance is a Joke<
Based on my observation (NA Tier 6)…this is how the tone of WvW Match-Ups gets created for the week:
1-THR
Throwing a bone – If Dominant World has a Large enough WvW Point Lead…it allows other 2 Worlds to fight for 2nd
2-FRI – Current – WvW Reset
Stomp – Each World seeks to Dominate in their WvW Point score to get a huge lead on other 2 Worlds
3-SAT
Roles Defined – 800 Pound Gorilla, Chimp, and Weakest Link
4-SUN
Musical Chairs – Worlds play off each other & desperately try to switch roles
5-MON
Pecking Order – Worlds Falls in Line & continue to play off each other’s role
Note: If same 3 Worlds fight each other consecutively each week…then each Phase described above is quickly defined and Pecking Order occurs in a shorter amount of time.
New Change in my opinion will change the tone of WvW Match-Ups to:
1-FRI
Hammer the Weakest Link
2-SAT – Suggested – WvW Reset
Stomp the Weakest Link
3-SUN
Roles Defined & Musical Chairs
4-MON
Pecking Order
ANet…please quickly post that the upcoming Saturday WvW Reset is a one time event to help with the release of HoT…and the following week it will return back to the normal Friday Weekly Reset.
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Almost 16k viewsStill no reply from anet, pathetic absolutely pathetic, is this what a forum is for? Anet stop with this ridiculous attitude of telling us how and when to play this game. I dont give a crap about pvp, fractals or raids I want to have wvw fights on a map of my choosing.
24hrs old is the post, many views many replies, but no answer from any dev.
If u change a reset day with a reason, let us know at least what the reason is.
Now it’s like guys we change the reset, have fun with it.
If there is no reason to change it, why the hell u change it then?
Elementalist
Over 200 posts
Almost 16k viewsStill no reply from anet, pathetic absolutely pathetic, is this what a forum is for? Anet stop with this ridiculous attitude of telling us how and when to play this game. I dont give a crap about pvp, fractals or raids I want to have wvw fights on a map of my choosing.
24hrs old is the post, many views many replies, but no answer from any dev.
If u change a reset day with a reason, let us know at least what the reason is.
Now it’s like guys we change the reset, have fun with it.
If there is no reason to change it, why the hell u change it then?
Thats what angers me the most, they are always silent on these stupid decisions, if they just come out and say well this is just a temporary thing for a week or 2 because of the expac release, well then its np. To make a sudden change like this with no input, or reason given, or even reply to such unanimous negative feedback. It really shows how little they think of their own gamemode and this playerbase.
Honesty is not insulting, stupidity is.
>Class Balance is a Joke<
Over 200 posts
Almost 16k viewsStill no reply from anet, pathetic absolutely pathetic, is this what a forum is for? Anet stop with this ridiculous attitude of telling us how and when to play this game. I dont give a crap about pvp, fractals or raids I want to have wvw fights on a map of my choosing.
24hrs old is the post, many views many replies, but no answer from any dev.
If u change a reset day with a reason, let us know at least what the reason is.
Now it’s like guys we change the reset, have fun with it.
If there is no reason to change it, why the hell u change it then?Thats what angers me the most, they are always silent on these stupid decisions, if they just come out and say well this is just a temporary thing for a week or 2 because of the expac release, well then its np. To make a sudden change like this with no input, or reason given, or even reply to such unanimous negative feedback. It really shows how little they think of their own gamemode and this playerbase.
don’t worry… if it would be something about pvp matchmaking or a pve bug it would receive 10 replies from 3 different developers every thread within 1 minute… we don’t deserve anything i guess.
Over 200 posts
Almost 16k viewsStill no reply from anet, pathetic absolutely pathetic, is this what a forum is for? Anet stop with this ridiculous attitude of telling us how and when to play this game. I dont give a crap about pvp, fractals or raids I want to have wvw fights on a map of my choosing.
24hrs old is the post, many views many replies, but no answer from any dev.
If u change a reset day with a reason, let us know at least what the reason is.
Now it’s like guys we change the reset, have fun with it.
If there is no reason to change it, why the hell u change it then?Thats what angers me the most, they are always silent on these stupid decisions, if they just come out and say well this is just a temporary thing for a week or 2 because of the expac release, well then its np. To make a sudden change like this with no input, or reason given, or even reply to such unanimous negative feedback. It really shows how little they think of their own gamemode and this playerbase.
don’t worry… if it would be something about pvp matchmaking or a pve bug it would receive 10 replies from 3 different developers every thread within 1 minute… we don’t deserve anything i guess.
Yeah man, I think most of us has that same feel. And it starts to be really annoying.
Elementalist
I think i can understand the Saturday reset time over Friday due to different time zones and different prime times. This means that ppl who are not on the same time zone with in the server (take NA there are at least 3 major time zones all that reset at the same time) having it on a Friday means some ppl cant play during reset. By having it on an Saturday you make sure that every one in that group can make it for that reset (mind you not every one is off on Saturday but most ppl are.)
What i am hoping that they changes to wvw over all makes say the last day of a match more important then it is now. Its annoying when Thursday is kind of pointless unless the match up is very close.
Though with the new guild halls we may see Friday become GvG day with out killing ppt for that wvw server.
Guild : OBEY (The Legacy) I call it Obay , TLC (WvW) , UNIV (other)
Server : FA
@DomAltares
Shocking interview with Anet WvW developer
https://youtu.be/ezVy-zLUq6g
Totally laughing & seriously crying at the same time to your posting of this link…
I think i can understand the Saturday reset time over Friday due to different time zones and different prime times. This means that ppl who are not on the same time zone with in the server (take NA there are at least 3 major time zones all that reset at the same time) having it on a Friday means some ppl cant play during reset. By having it on an Saturday you make sure that every one in that group can make it for that reset (mind you not every one is off on Saturday but most ppl are.)
What i am hoping that they changes to wvw over all makes say the last day of a match more important then it is now. Its annoying when Thursday is kind of pointless unless the match up is very close.
Though with the new guild halls we may see Friday become GvG day with out killing ppt for that wvw server.
How can that be a good reason, because NA has 3 different time zones? EU has also 4 different time zones so what? In Asia they have 2-3 different time zones so what?
It’s always has been like this, what they do now is just move it a day forward. So instead of Thursday become a “boring” day it will be Friday. But why ?
Gvg on Friday? U should do gvg whenever u can and want to. And not because Anet is planing that for us. No we plan that for ourself.
Elementalist
Hey Chris,
I was just curious what the exact reasoning is behind changing the reset day. Friday there is always alot of activity especially because people have time and the reset starts.
Could you perhaps clarify and is there any chance the WvW community itself can have any say in it? I know ANET has their own vision of WvW but some more consultment or at least try and poll what people actually want would be highly appreciated by everyone playing WvW.
1-FRI
Hammer the Weakest Link
1-FRI
Golem Day™*
*From the developers that brought you Golem Week™ now comes Golem Day™, complete with golem duplication exploit and player movement and damage buff bug.
I think i can understand the Saturday reset time over Friday due to different time zones and different prime times. This means that ppl who are not on the same time zone with in the server (take NA there are at least 3 major time zones all that reset at the same time) having it on a Friday means some ppl cant play during reset. By having it on an Saturday you make sure that every one in that group can make it for that reset (mind you not every one is off on Saturday but most ppl are.)
What i am hoping that they changes to wvw over all makes say the last day of a match more important then it is now. Its annoying when Thursday is kind of pointless unless the match up is very close.
Though with the new guild halls we may see Friday become GvG day with out killing ppt for that wvw server.How can that be a good reason, because NA has 3 different time zones? EU has also 4 different time zones so what? In Asia they have 2-3 different time zones so what?
It’s always has been like this, what they do now is just move it a day forward. So instead of Thursday become a “boring” day it will be Friday. But why ?
Gvg on Friday? U should do gvg whenever u can and want to. And not because Anet is planing that for us. No we plan that for ourself.
EU dose not get Saturday off? Then why is reset played so much on Friday i guess the same thing is true for Asia. If you live on the east cost of NA Friday reset is nice 7:00 est but for say West its 4:00 pdt ppl are simply not off during that time for most ppl. The only true “fair” reset time is to make sure “most” ppl can play during reset and putting it on an Saturday more then any other day (i guess you could do Sunday but i am not sure how that world work out) ppl have off all day long. In some ways it means they can push it back to easier reset time too say 4:00 east or 1:00 pdt for NA with out cutting a lot of ppl from being able to play reset. It also over all helps out with time changes in that falling back 1hr dose not comply kill reset for pdt.
That is what its all about making sure you get the max number of ppl to play or at least the chase to play during reset not to make sure your Friday nights are not boring.
Guild : OBEY (The Legacy) I call it Obay , TLC (WvW) , UNIV (other)
Server : FA
I think i can understand the Saturday reset time over Friday due to different time zones and different prime times. This means that ppl who are not on the same time zone with in the server (take NA there are at least 3 major time zones all that reset at the same time) having it on a Friday means some ppl cant play during reset. By having it on an Saturday you make sure that every one in that group can make it for that reset (mind you not every one is off on Saturday but most ppl are.)
What i am hoping that they changes to wvw over all makes say the last day of a match more important then it is now. Its annoying when Thursday is kind of pointless unless the match up is very close.
Though with the new guild halls we may see Friday become GvG day with out killing ppt for that wvw server.How can that be a good reason, because NA has 3 different time zones? EU has also 4 different time zones so what? In Asia they have 2-3 different time zones so what?
It’s always has been like this, what they do now is just move it a day forward. So instead of Thursday become a “boring” day it will be Friday. But why ?
Gvg on Friday? U should do gvg whenever u can and want to. And not because Anet is planing that for us. No we plan that for ourself.EU dose not get Saturday off? Then why is reset played so much on Friday i guess the same thing is true for Asia. If you live on the east cost of NA Friday reset is nice 7:00 est but for say West its 4:00 pdt ppl are simply not off during that time for most ppl. The only true “fair” reset time is to make sure “most” ppl can play during reset and putting it on an Saturday more then any other day (i guess you could do Sunday but i am not sure how that world work out) ppl have off all day long. In some ways it means they can push it back to easier reset time too say 4:00 east or 1:00 pdt for NA with out cutting a lot of ppl from being able to play reset. It also over all helps out with time changes in that falling back 1hr dose not comply kill reset for pdt.
That is what its all about making sure you get the max number of ppl to play or at least the chase to play during reset not to make sure your Friday nights are not boring.
Reset is 9PM EST, not 7.
I think i can understand the Saturday reset time over Friday due to different time zones and different prime times. This means that ppl who are not on the same time zone with in the server (take NA there are at least 3 major time zones all that reset at the same time) having it on a Friday means some ppl cant play during reset. By having it on an Saturday you make sure that every one in that group can make it for that reset (mind you not every one is off on Saturday but most ppl are.)
What i am hoping that they changes to wvw over all makes say the last day of a match more important then it is now. Its annoying when Thursday is kind of pointless unless the match up is very close.
Though with the new guild halls we may see Friday become GvG day with out killing ppt for that wvw server.How can that be a good reason, because NA has 3 different time zones? EU has also 4 different time zones so what? In Asia they have 2-3 different time zones so what?
It’s always has been like this, what they do now is just move it a day forward. So instead of Thursday become a “boring” day it will be Friday. But why ?
Gvg on Friday? U should do gvg whenever u can and want to. And not because Anet is planing that for us. No we plan that for ourself.EU dose not get Saturday off? Then why is reset played so much on Friday i guess the same thing is true for Asia. If you live on the east cost of NA Friday reset is nice 7:00 est but for say West its 4:00 pdt ppl are simply not off during that time for most ppl. The only true “fair” reset time is to make sure “most” ppl can play during reset and putting it on an Saturday more then any other day (i guess you could do Sunday but i am not sure how that world work out) ppl have off all day long. In some ways it means they can push it back to easier reset time too say 4:00 east or 1:00 pdt for NA with out cutting a lot of ppl from being able to play reset. It also over all helps out with time changes in that falling back 1hr dose not comply kill reset for pdt.
That is what its all about making sure you get the max number of ppl to play or at least the chase to play during reset not to make sure your Friday nights are not boring.
Reset is 9PM EST, not 7.
Sry thinking of an older reset but even that 6:00 pdt is still early for a lot of ppl on the west cost for NA.
Still its about getting ppl the abitly to play on reset even ppl who work 2ed and 3ed sift are able to play reset if its on an Saturday and not just the 1st shift workers for Friday nights.
Guild : OBEY (The Legacy) I call it Obay , TLC (WvW) , UNIV (other)
Server : FA
The day before reset has, for as long as I’ve been playing, been pretty dead. It’s the end of the matchup and a lot of people think the matchup is over and either just kitten and ktrain or just go to PvE/PvP; I personally do both depending on how I’m feeling.
Furthermore Friday is, for the majority of the playerbase, the end of the week. They get home ready to start the weekend and, if reset is moved to a Saturday, come home to a dead evening, followed by a full day of nothing much happening, because very few people want to bother in a matchup that pretty much everyone considers to be already over, we see that already on a Thursday. That’s a large portion of a weekend where WvW would be nowhere near as fun, and time I’m likely to spend in other games or gamemodes.
Reset has been for a while basically my “reward” for getting to the end of the week, something really fun to look forward to when I’ve been bogged down in work all week, so I massively prefer it be on a Friday, then I can enjoy the whole weekend of WvW being active and not just Saturday evening/most of Sunday (on which most people need to go to bed early ready for work).
The day before reset has, for as long as I’ve been playing, been pretty dead. It’s the end of the matchup and a lot of people think the matchup is over and either just kitten and ktrain or just go to PvE/PvP; I personally do both depending on how I’m feeling.
Furthermore Friday is, for the majority of the playerbase, the end of the week. They get home ready to start the weekend and, if reset is moved to a Saturday, come home to a dead evening, followed by a full day of nothing much happening, because very few people want to bother in a matchup that pretty much everyone considers to be already over, we see that already on a Thursday. That’s a large portion of a weekend where WvW would be nowhere near as fun, and time I’m likely to spend in other games or gamemodes.
Reset has been for a while basically my “reward” for getting to the end of the week, something really fun to look forward to when I’ve been bogged down in work all week, so I massively prefer it be on a Friday, then I can enjoy the whole weekend of WvW being active and not just Saturday evening/most of Sunday (on which most people need to go to bed early ready for work).
Not every one gets Friday night 9:00 east off why should you get a reward right there and then when other simply miss it. All you have to do is wait a day longer before you get it so others can now get the reward too is that asking too much?
Mind you other do work Saturday but its just a numbers game at the end of the day as in you cant get every one but you can try to get most.
Guild : OBEY (The Legacy) I call it Obay , TLC (WvW) , UNIV (other)
Server : FA
If you fear that the karma-friday become a karma-saturday, then it’s up to you real world versus world players to deny such request.
Defend structures, crash your zerg into the opposite karmatrain, hunt them until they log off or fight back.
I think you misunderstand the lack of care that occurs at the end of a match when the score is not close. Now at least no one will feel they are wasting gold on upgrades. There is still siege that will disappear because of reset.
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I think i can understand the Saturday reset time over Friday due to different time zones and different prime times. This means that ppl who are not on the same time zone with in the server (take NA there are at least 3 major time zones all that reset at the same time) having it on a Friday means some ppl cant play during reset. By having it on an Saturday you make sure that every one in that group can make it for that reset (mind you not every one is off on Saturday but most ppl are.)
What i am hoping that they changes to wvw over all makes say the last day of a match more important then it is now. Its annoying when Thursday is kind of pointless unless the match up is very close.
Though with the new guild halls we may see Friday become GvG day with out killing ppt for that wvw server.How can that be a good reason, because NA has 3 different time zones? EU has also 4 different time zones so what? In Asia they have 2-3 different time zones so what?
It’s always has been like this, what they do now is just move it a day forward. So instead of Thursday become a “boring” day it will be Friday. But why ?
Gvg on Friday? U should do gvg whenever u can and want to. And not because Anet is planing that for us. No we plan that for ourself.EU dose not get Saturday off? Then why is reset played so much on Friday i guess the same thing is true for Asia. If you live on the east cost of NA Friday reset is nice 7:00 est but for say West its 4:00 pdt ppl are simply not off during that time for most ppl. The only true “fair” reset time is to make sure “most” ppl can play during reset and putting it on an Saturday more then any other day (i guess you could do Sunday but i am not sure how that world work out) ppl have off all day long. In some ways it means they can push it back to easier reset time too say 4:00 east or 1:00 pdt for NA with out cutting a lot of ppl from being able to play reset. It also over all helps out with time changes in that falling back 1hr dose not comply kill reset for pdt.
That is what its all about making sure you get the max number of ppl to play or at least the chase to play during reset not to make sure your Friday nights are not boring.
What u talking about it’s a time stamp, so if they change to Saturday it would be the same reset time. And yes u should try to get the most people on a reset day, but since when players saying that the reset day has to be change, because the lack of people?
if it really wants more player to get on that reset moment and for ur reason the NA players with different time zones, they should just adjust the reset time to a fair moment that they think there are the most players online. I play reset in EU and NA.
At least gives us a reason Why they change it.
Elementalist
Reset is 9PM EST, not 7.
Sry thinking of an older reset but even that 6:00 pdt is still early for a lot of ppl on the west cost for NA.
Still its about getting ppl the abitly to play on reset even ppl who work 2ed and 3ed sift are able to play reset if its on an Saturday and not just the 1st shift workers for Friday nights.
No worries. I remember when it was earlier too. I think maybe we need a rolling reset. 9PM EST Friday one week, advance by 12 hours next week, then again by 12 hours, then back to 9PM EST Friday.
No one will be 100% happy, but everyone will get to participate.
I think i can understand the Saturday reset time over Friday due to different time zones and different prime times. This means that ppl who are not on the same time zone with in the server (take NA there are at least 3 major time zones all that reset at the same time) having it on a Friday means some ppl cant play during reset. By having it on an Saturday you make sure that every one in that group can make it for that reset (mind you not every one is off on Saturday but most ppl are.)
What i am hoping that they changes to wvw over all makes say the last day of a match more important then it is now. Its annoying when Thursday is kind of pointless unless the match up is very close.
Though with the new guild halls we may see Friday become GvG day with out killing ppt for that wvw server.How can that be a good reason, because NA has 3 different time zones? EU has also 4 different time zones so what? In Asia they have 2-3 different time zones so what?
It’s always has been like this, what they do now is just move it a day forward. So instead of Thursday become a “boring” day it will be Friday. But why ?
Gvg on Friday? U should do gvg whenever u can and want to. And not because Anet is planing that for us. No we plan that for ourself.EU dose not get Saturday off? Then why is reset played so much on Friday i guess the same thing is true for Asia. If you live on the east cost of NA Friday reset is nice 7:00 est but for say West its 4:00 pdt ppl are simply not off during that time for most ppl. The only true “fair” reset time is to make sure “most” ppl can play during reset and putting it on an Saturday more then any other day (i guess you could do Sunday but i am not sure how that world work out) ppl have off all day long. In some ways it means they can push it back to easier reset time too say 4:00 east or 1:00 pdt for NA with out cutting a lot of ppl from being able to play reset. It also over all helps out with time changes in that falling back 1hr dose not comply kill reset for pdt.
That is what its all about making sure you get the max number of ppl to play or at least the chase to play during reset not to make sure your Friday nights are not boring.
What u talking about it’s a time stamp, so if they change to Saturday it would be the same reset time. And yes u should try to get the most people on a reset day, but since when players saying that the reset day has to be change, because the lack of people?
if it really wants more player to get on that reset moment and for ur reason the NA players with different time zones, they should just adjust the reset time to a fair moment that they think there are the most players online. I play reset in EU and NA.
At least gives us a reason Why they change it.
You change it becuse not every one gets Friday night off and the ones who get Saturday off (mostly the ones who get Friday night off too) can play. So ppl who are making it to reset are giving up a day delay on there reset so more ppl over all can make it to reset. Reset night should be big and the time to make sure every one can make it is to do it on the first day off on a 2 day weekend not the night of the day before a 2 day weekend.
Depending on how this works out you maybe able to push back reset times to be earlier in the day because your not playing off that 9 to 5 job time any more.
Though i like to point out that this is a good example of ppl who are unwilling to wait for there rewards so more ppl can get them. Its simple human greed i understand we all have it but we should not be ruled by it. Delaying a reward so others can reap the reward too should boost a group not harm it.
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Personally I would prefer reset on Sunday night:
You could focus your entire weekend on a single matchup instead of 2 separate matchups.
Reset is 9PM EST, not 7.
Sry thinking of an older reset but even that 6:00 pdt is still early for a lot of ppl on the west cost for NA.
Still its about getting ppl the abitly to play on reset even ppl who work 2ed and 3ed sift are able to play reset if its on an Saturday and not just the 1st shift workers for Friday nights.No worries. I remember when it was earlier too. I think maybe we need a rolling reset. 9PM EST Friday one week, advance by 12 hours next week, then again by 12 hours, then back to 9PM EST Friday.
No one will be 100% happy, but everyone will get to participate.
Let’s not start confusing daylight savings time with reset change. Reset occurs in UTC, which has no daylight savings time. Reset will be back to 5pm Pacific very soon.
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I think i can understand the Saturday reset time over Friday due to different time zones and different prime times. This means that ppl who are not on the same time zone with in the server (take NA there are at least 3 major time zones all that reset at the same time) having it on a Friday means some ppl cant play during reset. By having it on an Saturday you make sure that every one in that group can make it for that reset (mind you not every one is off on Saturday but most ppl are.)
What i am hoping that they changes to wvw over all makes say the last day of a match more important then it is now. Its annoying when Thursday is kind of pointless unless the match up is very close.
Though with the new guild halls we may see Friday become GvG day with out killing ppt for that wvw server.How can that be a good reason, because NA has 3 different time zones? EU has also 4 different time zones so what? In Asia they have 2-3 different time zones so what?
It’s always has been like this, what they do now is just move it a day forward. So instead of Thursday become a “boring” day it will be Friday. But why ?
Gvg on Friday? U should do gvg whenever u can and want to. And not because Anet is planing that for us. No we plan that for ourself.EU dose not get Saturday off? Then why is reset played so much on Friday i guess the same thing is true for Asia. If you live on the east cost of NA Friday reset is nice 7:00 est but for say West its 4:00 pdt ppl are simply not off during that time for most ppl. The only true “fair” reset time is to make sure “most” ppl can play during reset and putting it on an Saturday more then any other day (i guess you could do Sunday but i am not sure how that world work out) ppl have off all day long. In some ways it means they can push it back to easier reset time too say 4:00 east or 1:00 pdt for NA with out cutting a lot of ppl from being able to play reset. It also over all helps out with time changes in that falling back 1hr dose not comply kill reset for pdt.
That is what its all about making sure you get the max number of ppl to play or at least the chase to play during reset not to make sure your Friday nights are not boring.
What u talking about it’s a time stamp, so if they change to Saturday it would be the same reset time. And yes u should try to get the most people on a reset day, but since when players saying that the reset day has to be change, because the lack of people?
if it really wants more player to get on that reset moment and for ur reason the NA players with different time zones, they should just adjust the reset time to a fair moment that they think there are the most players online. I play reset in EU and NA.
At least gives us a reason Why they change it.You change it becuse not every one gets Friday night off and the ones who get Saturday off (mostly the ones who get Friday night off too) can play. So ppl who are making it to reset are giving up a day delay on there reset so more ppl over all can make it to reset. Reset night should be big and the time to make sure every one can make it is to do it on the first day off on a 2 day weekend not the night of the day before a 2 day weekend.
Depending on how this works out you maybe able to push back reset times to be earlier in the day because your not playing off that 9 to 5 job time any more.
Though i like to point out that this is a good example of ppl who are unwilling to wait for there rewards so more ppl can get them. Its simple human greed i understand we all have it but we should not be ruled by it. Delaying a reward so others can reap the reward too should boost a group not harm it.
If u say that is the reason, why change it now and not In the beginning on release? Don’t tell me there was no one playing wvw on release and now it is more so we change it.
And u think everyone who plays Wvw having a job from9-5?
And Saturday everyone has day off? Sry mate, that’s not the fact.
First of all Anet doesn’t look into wvw players time spending. So u think Anet see "he Saturday everyone has day off and players are done working from 9-5 so do the reset on Saturday. No I don’t think so.
If they really think like how u think, they would change it to Sunday, because in my knowledge Sunday is a day that Most of the people don’t need to work, and students don’t have school. But no not Sunday. Has to be Saturday and why? No answer.
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Yet another slap to the face to OCX players.. Reset is now on Sunday, thanks for ruining the gamemode even more.
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Probably at some point, some Dev gonna pop up here to tell us all, that they are not ready to talk about it, and lock the trend.
And I will not be surprised if they ban half of us, just because they can.
Still no official response, WOW.
I didn’t preorder HoT because i lost trust a year ago. Seems they have a whole team brainstorming day’n’night to prove all my doubts Whats next, golem week forever? No stab year? Fix lag and never touch wvw again, best solution for everyone (sadly).
Not every one gets Friday night 9:00 east off why should you get a reward right there and then when other simply miss it. All you have to do is wait a day longer before you get it so others can now get the reward too is that asking too much?
Mind you other do work Saturday but its just a numbers game at the end of the day as in you cant get every one but you can try to get most.
No, not everyone does. However, the vast majority of people in the United States at least will not be working at that time. It takes away half the weekend of meaningful play (more for OCX as it will be Sunday) at a time when most people will not be working and have more available time to play.
Though i like to point out that this is a good example of ppl who are unwilling to wait for there rewards so more ppl can get them. Its simple human greed i understand we all have it but we should not be ruled by it. Delaying a reward so others can reap the reward too should boost a group not harm it.
This is quite a stretch even to claim self entitlement issues on this. I have to question whether you actually can grasp the issue and what it means from a gaming stand point for the majority of people, what it means in regards to the ‘coverage wars’ situation, and what impact this will have from a business sense.
Hint: This will make OCX and SEA coverage affect the score even more than it does now.
I know from your posting history that you like to be contrarian on just about anything that has some semblance of logic behind it. Not sure what your issue is, but could you troll somewhere else?
That’s a large portion of a weekend where WvW would be nowhere near as fun, and time I’m likely to spend in other games or gamemodes.
Perhaps with this change if WvW is boring on the weekend people WILL go into PvE/PvP instead, which may be the entire point.
No one wanted the bloodlust nodes back in the day that gave a huge boost to a dominant server, this was particularly true immediately after it was introduced. Sacrx at the time indicated that ANet were trying to unbalance WvW and GvG even more and push people into PvP (ANet’s preferred game mode) for balanced fights.
If getting you out of WvW and turning you into a PvP player were to occur, in short, ANet would be happy.
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Probably at some point, some Dev gonna pop up here to tell us all, that they are not ready to talk about it, and lock the trend.
And I will not be surprised if they ban half of us, just because they can.
Yes, I have noticed that any criticism not fully tinted with rose colored glasses results in deleted posts, locked threads, and bans.
Perhaps with this change if WvW is boring on the weekend people WILL go into PvE/PvP instead, which may be the entire point.
If getting you out of WvW and turning you into a PvP player were to occur, in short, ANet would be happy.
Off nights just prior to reset for my guild (30+ online during WvW) usually result in 3 or 4 people being online. My guild could be a statistical anomaly and out of the norm, but I really think this is indicative to some degree in most WvW-centric guilds.
This is asinine. I don’t even need to say why because everyone else has. Just another slap in the face to the WvW community.
To those that don’t understand, this is effectively ruining “half” of the weekend of WvW. >.>
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Doesn’t this change make reset at a time where the weekend is pretty much over for SEA like early to late evening on Sunday? And mid afternoon for OCX?
Now from a NA side, wvw is pretty much winding down. Don’t see how this will help participation in those timezone. We will see. I am not optimistic about that.
Still no official response, WOW.
I didn’t preorder HoT because i lost trust a year ago. Seems they have a whole team brainstorming day’n’night to prove all my doubts Whats next, golem week forever? No stab year? Fix lag and never touch wvw again, best solution for everyone (sadly).
Not surprising. To this day, they have never even acknowledged the problems of golem week.