Guild Wars 2

WvWvW isn’t duel zone, it is warground, all around cry pls dont kill me, pls dont kill my oponent, pls go aways we have a duel, no one help u in combat coz they think it is duel. Stop it guys pls, and dear Anet, pls make a duel zone (not guild arena) in pve world, that all over the tyria can enter and use comand /duel or use buff from npc to make dialog with another player and duel him

How many threads do we need on this topic? One already existed before you decided to make multiple threads.

Who cares, just kill them.

This is like when the karma trainers in eotm complained and cried about duelers killing karma training upscales in eotm. The duelers aregument was that “this is a pvp area hurr durr go pve blah blah”

Same applies here, its a pvp area and you can and should kill everyone with a red nametag.

Puck.9612:

How many threads do we need on this topic? One already existed before you decided to make multiple threads.

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Why do you care what other people are doing? If you want to blob around, go for it – let other people do what they’re doing if they’re just doing 1v1s.

Josh XT.6053:

Why do you care what other people are doing? If you want to blob around, go for it – let other people do what they’re doing if they’re just doing 1v1s.

like a premade of 4 people in ranked who sell win for gold? yes all aspects care me when it bound with me, and i cant leave them like a party in fractals

Morozzko.2136:

Josh XT.6053:

Why do you care what other people are doing? If you want to blob around, go for it – let other people do what they’re doing if they’re just doing 1v1s.

like a premade of 4 people in ranked who sell win for gold? yes all aspects care me when it bound with me, and i cant leave them like a party in fractals

Apart from the fact that duellers don’t kill eachother, they let eachother revive from downstate…

just do whatever you want, but don’t expect any help from them when you get ganked later on…

Morozzko.2136:

Josh XT.6053:

Why do you care what other people are doing? If you want to blob around, go for it – let other people do what they’re doing if they’re just doing 1v1s.

like a premade of 4 people in ranked who sell win for gold? yes all aspects care me when it bound with me, and i cant leave them like a party in fractals

What in the world does that have to do with people 1v1ing???

Ovalkvadratcylinder.9365:

Apart from the fact that duellers don’t kill eachother, they let eachother revive from downstate…

just do whatever you want, but don’t expect any help from them when you get ganked later on…

Exactly, usually I have a 5 man group with me when I am dueling, if any enemies jump in, they get rekt. Same thing with the person who is dueling me, they usually have several friends watching for one of our people to jump in and the kill them and my guys do not help. It is just like a dueling code lol. Only thing we can’t really do much about is when a blob rolls through.

but but but, in the movies, they always stop for dialogue and duel in the middle of a warzone

Josh XT.6053:

Why do you care what other people are doing? If you want to blob around, go for it – let other people do what they’re doing if they’re just doing 1v1s.

This is like when the karma trainers in eotm complained and cried about duelers killing karma training upscales in eotm. The duelers aregument was that “this is a pvp area hurr durr go pve blah blah”
Same applies here, its a pvp area and you can and should kill everyone with a red nametag.

“warzone " “warground”

Hope you all take real life as srs as this game lol

TallBarr.2184:

Josh XT.6053:

Why do you care what other people are doing? If you want to blob around, go for it – let other people do what they’re doing if they’re just doing 1v1s.

This is like when the karma trainers in eotm complained and cried about duelers killing karma training upscales in eotm. The duelers aregument was that “this is a pvp area hurr durr go pve blah blah”
Same applies here, its a pvp area and you can and should kill everyone with a red nametag.

Okay those people aren’t duelers, they’re roamers. Someone dueling is bowing at an enemy, receiving a bow back from the enemy initiating the fight then fighting them 1v1. Not ganking, that is a roamer thing lol.

please show me in writing, officially stating that wvw is not a place to have duels. people paid money for this game and they have every right to do what they like, that includes dueling in wvw.

Sure they can duel. They just have to deal with the fact, they’re going to get run over by the mob every once in awhile.

If you see read dots rolling your way, expect to be tagged.

It sounds to me like Morozzko.2136 got ran over by some duelers for interfering and is mad.

Josh XT.6053:

Okay those people aren’t duelers, they’re roamers. Someone dueling is bowing at an enemy, receiving a bow back from the enemy initiating the fight then fighting them 1v1. Not ganking, that is a roamer thing lol.

And how the heck is a third player supposed to know that the 1v1 he encountered started with two courteous bows, lol?

Personally I dont even find it a problem. Quite the contrary, its more fun when it happens. If the duel was mutual, the duelist that got a +1 will surely disengage. If he does not he’s not honorable enough to even be called a duelist, so the point is moot. The +1 will then probably get roflstomped because he’s in no way built to win against a duelist. If said duelist dies… well sucks to be him, he failed.

Dawdler.8521:

Josh XT.6053:

Okay those people aren’t duelers, they’re roamers. Someone dueling is bowing at an enemy, receiving a bow back from the enemy initiating the fight then fighting them 1v1. Not ganking, that is a roamer thing lol.

And how the heck is a third player supposed to know that the 1v1 he encountered started with two courteous bows, lol?

Personally I dont even find it a problem. Quite the contrary, its more fun when it happens. If the duel was mutual, the duelist that got a +1 will surely disengage. If he does not he’s not honorable enough to even be called a duelist, so the point is moot. The +1 will then probably get roflstomped because he’s in no way built to win against a duelist. If said duelist dies… well sucks to be him, he failed.

I think its pretty simple, if you just see 2 people fighting – leave them alone lol. Pretty easy.

I duel here and there but I do agree, you put yourself in a vulnerable spot just outside smc. I often ask the opponent if they want to hang out in OS instead but most don’t these days.

Kinda goes both ways, don’t cry if you get run over dueling and don’t cry if you get ganked and are known to interrupt duels.

TallBarr.2184:

Who cares, just kill them.

This is like when the karma trainers in eotm complained and cried about duelers killing karma training upscales in eotm. The duelers aregument was that “this is a pvp area hurr durr go pve blah blah”

Same applies here, its a pvp area and you can and should kill everyone with a red nametag.

Thing is if you kill duelers with zerg they get angry and start harassing ur zerg and ur own server duellers will start messing with ur defense activations also giving info to other team and all that stuff what you love , its just better leave duellers alone makes ur life easyer

baylock.1703:

TallBarr.2184:

Who cares, just kill them.

This is like when the karma trainers in eotm complained and cried about duelers killing karma training upscales in eotm. The duelers aregument was that “this is a pvp area hurr durr go pve blah blah”

Same applies here, its a pvp area and you can and should kill everyone with a red nametag.

Thing is if you kill duelers with zerg they get angry and start harassing ur zerg and ur own server duellers will start messing with ur defense activations also giving info to other team and all that stuff what you love , its just better leave duellers alone makes ur life easyer

Yes sir. If I am dueling someone and my servers zerg blobs down my fight – you better bet I will start following that zerg and dropping troll food on them every time they stop and troll trebs on every supply depot when they cap stuff. I am that guy, will always be that guy. You mess with how I want to play, I’ll mess with how you want to play.

Moral of the story is to treat others the way you want to be treated. If you want people to mess with your game play, go ahead and mess with theirs.

Stop telling people how to play and go enjoy your own way to play.

You notice they’re saying please … Why is it so hard to respect another person’s choices?

Those duellers are easily worth five zerglings.

And also most duels happen naturally I usealy roam around cap camps do troll stuff to enemy’s but if I finds a worthy opponent I sometimes ask them for duel (what can lead to sometimes 1 to 2 howers dueling sessions) but this is how we get better

in other games I have played, they had a /duel option, might be a grand idea for GW2, to have such a feature, but make it so that players can only /duel in cities.

No one is honorable in this game nor does anyone need to be. I’ll duel sometimes but sometimes it’ll get interfered with, yeah, that’s fine. Not all people who duel are really all about those fair fights anyway, most everyone I duel and I myself will gladly engage in a 5v1 in the borderlands. There’s too much crying and not enough playing.

I face BG on a daily basis so I assume I’ll get ganked- there’s never really any true hard feelings. It’s in the game, so everyone’s entitled to enjoy their 5v1s as much as their 1v1s or zergfights or whatever you wanna do

If you wanna duel go Obsidian, we dont need your kitten in eb, nor take queue spots. Duel all you want but dont cry when I kill ya bum.

i hope you aren’t referring to me as a “bum”, considering the actual content of my post. but if you are, you can interfere and then i’ll kill you anyway- whatever

TallBarr.2184:

If you wanna duel go Obsidian, we dont need your kitten in eb, nor take queue spots. Duel all you want but dont cry when I kill ya bum.

If you’ll build all the siege in the keep and all four towers, refresh it every hour, scout and miss out on all the loot, I’ll gladly go to OS and duel and then get stuck in a queue for a five minute fight.

A lot of duellers are your server’s scouts who get zero loot and duel so they keep on top of skills to properly defend.

How about you go to OS to blob?

TallBarr.2184:

If you wanna duel go Obsidian, we dont need your kitten in eb, nor take queue spots. Duel all you want but dont cry when I kill ya bum.

So I need to go to obsidian, cause you dont need me in EB and I cant take any Q spots? Who the hell are you and why should I care about your Q spots?

Easy rules to follow:

1. Just don’t duel in high traffic areas
2. If you see a bunch of people standing around not fighting, don’t jump in on the lone fighters.
3. Don’t seek out those dueling like they are hurting you.
4. Quit making threads about this, there are countless ones created for well over 3 years. There is no point in doing so, it’s a waste of time, just like my post.

Get over yourself.

People are free to do as they wish in the GAME. Different people do different things to have said “fun”. “Fun” is subjective. What you find “fun” others may not, and what others find “fun” you may not; so again, get over yourself!

TallBarr.2184:

If you wanna duel go Obsidian, we dont need your kitten in eb, nor take queue spots. Duel all you want but dont cry when I kill ya bum.

I have plenty of packets of salt for when you msg me. You run me over with your zerg – I kill your tail. I don’t need your Kitten anywhere and your queue spot is not more important than mine. Zerg all you want but don’t cry when I focus you until you rage quit.

Three simple solutions.

1. Allow for a dueling option in PvE

2 Duelers gather at the windmill near the south camp, like the GvG guilds used to, and no one will bother them there and they won’t be bothering anyone else.

3. Duelers gather in OS, like the GvG guilds eventually did, and no one will bother them there and they won’t be bothering anyone else.

Phantom.8130:

Three simple solutions.

2 Duelers gather at the windmill near the south camp, like the GvG guilds used to, and no one will bother them there and they won’t be bothering anyone else.

Believe it or not windmill was the unofficial dueling spot long before gvg’ers started that up.

Before HoT there was a regular fight club on the Tier 1 cluster in an out of the way area of the map. No reason for any zerg to pass through there. Doesn’t bother me that they aren’t participating in WvW and if they aren’t there’s no reason to target them.

The amount of ZerglingS that completely misses the whole point of a roamer (dueler) is too kitten high! if we wasnt here, you guys wouldn’t know where to farm your loot bags.

Morozzko.2136:

WvWvW isn’t duel zone, it is warground, all around cry pls dont kill me, pls dont kill my oponent, pls go aways we have a duel, no one help u in combat coz they think it is duel. Stop it guys pls, and dear Anet, pls make a duel zone (not guild arena) in pve world, that all over the tyria can enter and use comand /duel or use buff from npc to make dialog with another player and duel him

there already is a dule zone called Obsidian Sanctum. Why they dont’t use it no one knows.

Josh XT.6053:

baylock.1703:

TallBarr.2184:

Who cares, just kill them.

This is like when the karma trainers in eotm complained and cried about duelers killing karma training upscales in eotm. The duelers aregument was that “this is a pvp area hurr durr go pve blah blah”

Same applies here, its a pvp area and you can and should kill everyone with a red nametag.

Thing is if you kill duelers with zerg they get angry and start harassing ur zerg and ur own server duellers will start messing with ur defense activations also giving info to other team and all that stuff what you love , its just better leave duellers alone makes ur life easyer

Yes sir. If I am dueling someone and my servers zerg blobs down my fight – you better bet I will start following that zerg and dropping troll food on them every time they stop and troll trebs on every supply depot when they cap stuff. I am that guy, will always be that guy. You mess with how I want to play, I’ll mess with how you want to play.

Moral of the story is to treat others the way you want to be treated. If you want people to mess with your game play, go ahead and mess with theirs.

But you are messing with how others want to play by dueling and not helping people cap points or fight the blob. So dont be mad when a blob runs your dule over.

hypehype.9047:

Morozzko.2136:

WvWvW isn’t duel zone, it is warground, all around cry pls dont kill me, pls dont kill my oponent, pls go aways we have a duel, no one help u in combat coz they think it is duel. Stop it guys pls, and dear Anet, pls make a duel zone (not guild arena) in pve world, that all over the tyria can enter and use comand /duel or use buff from npc to make dialog with another player and duel him

there already is a dule zone called Obsidian Sanctum. Why they dont’t use it no one knows.

Because duelers are also roamers, camp flippers, and scouts.

hypehype.9047:

Josh XT.6053:

baylock.1703:

TallBarr.2184:

Who cares, just kill them.

This is like when the karma trainers in eotm complained and cried about duelers killing karma training upscales in eotm. The duelers aregument was that “this is a pvp area hurr durr go pve blah blah”

Same applies here, its a pvp area and you can and should kill everyone with a red nametag.

Thing is if you kill duelers with zerg they get angry and start harassing ur zerg and ur own server duellers will start messing with ur defense activations also giving info to other team and all that stuff what you love , its just better leave duellers alone makes ur life easyer

Yes sir. If I am dueling someone and my servers zerg blobs down my fight – you better bet I will start following that zerg and dropping troll food on them every time they stop and troll trebs on every supply depot when they cap stuff. I am that guy, will always be that guy. You mess with how I want to play, I’ll mess with how you want to play.

Moral of the story is to treat others the way you want to be treated. If you want people to mess with your game play, go ahead and mess with theirs.

But you are messing with how others want to play by dueling and not helping people cap points or fight the blob. So dont be mad when a blob runs your dule over.

By that logic, everyone not in WvW on your server is “messing with how others want to play.”

BeepBoopBop.5403:

hypehype.9047:

Morozzko.2136:

WvWvW isn’t duel zone, it is warground, all around cry pls dont kill me, pls dont kill my oponent, pls go aways we have a duel, no one help u in combat coz they think it is duel. Stop it guys pls, and dear Anet, pls make a duel zone (not guild arena) in pve world, that all over the tyria can enter and use comand /duel or use buff from npc to make dialog with another player and duel him

there already is a dule zone called Obsidian Sanctum. Why they dont’t use it no one knows.

Because duelers are also roamers, camp flippers, and scouts.

I dont see how a dueler who constantly hangs around sm taggin it with dules can call themself a scout/roamer.

BeepBoopBop.5403:

hypehype.9047:

Josh XT.6053:

baylock.1703:

TallBarr.2184:

Who cares, just kill them.

This is like when the karma trainers in eotm complained and cried about duelers killing karma training upscales in eotm. The duelers aregument was that “this is a pvp area hurr durr go pve blah blah”

Same applies here, its a pvp area and you can and should kill everyone with a red nametag.

Thing is if you kill duelers with zerg they get angry and start harassing ur zerg and ur own server duellers will start messing with ur defense activations also giving info to other team and all that stuff what you love , its just better leave duellers alone makes ur life easyer

Yes sir. If I am dueling someone and my servers zerg blobs down my fight – you better bet I will start following that zerg and dropping troll food on them every time they stop and troll trebs on every supply depot when they cap stuff. I am that guy, will always be that guy. You mess with how I want to play, I’ll mess with how you want to play.

Moral of the story is to treat others the way you want to be treated. If you want people to mess with your game play, go ahead and mess with theirs.

But you are messing with how others want to play by dueling and not helping people cap points or fight the blob. So dont be mad when a blob runs your dule over.

By that logic, everyone not in WvW on your server is “messing with how others want to play.”

I dont know what this sentence means, all i am saying is dont whisper me when i interrupt your dule, if you want to dule that is fine but i can do what i want in this game too.

hypehype.9047:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

hypehype.9047:

Morozzko.2136:

WvWvW isn’t duel zone, it is warground, all around cry pls dont kill me, pls dont kill my oponent, pls go aways we have a duel, no one help u in combat coz they think it is duel. Stop it guys pls, and dear Anet, pls make a duel zone (not guild arena) in pve world, that all over the tyria can enter and use comand /duel or use buff from npc to make dialog with another player and duel him

there already is a dule zone called Obsidian Sanctum. Why they dont’t use it no one knows.

Because duelers are also roamers, camp flippers, and scouts.

I dont see how a dueler who constantly hangs around sm taggin it with dules can call themself a scout/roamer.

Nobody comes to WvW exclusively to duel. They are just dueling for the time being and will probably go back to doing other stuff later. I don’t see how being a zergling makes your spot in queue more important than anyone else’s.

BeepBoopBop.5403:

hypehype.9047:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

hypehype.9047:

Morozzko.2136:

WvWvW isn’t duel zone, it is warground, all around cry pls dont kill me, pls dont kill my oponent, pls go aways we have a duel, no one help u in combat coz they think it is duel. Stop it guys pls, and dear Anet, pls make a duel zone (not guild arena) in pve world, that all over the tyria can enter and use comand /duel or use buff from npc to make dialog with another player and duel him

there already is a dule zone called Obsidian Sanctum. Why they dont’t use it no one knows.

Because duelers are also roamers, camp flippers, and scouts.

I dont see how a dueler who constantly hangs around sm taggin it with dules can call themself a scout/roamer.

Nobody comes to WvW exclusively to duel. They are just dueling for the time being and will probably go back to doing other stuff later. I don’t see how being a zergling makes your spot in queue more important than anyone else’s.

You do what you want i do what i want.

hypehype.9047:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

hypehype.9047:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

hypehype.9047:

Morozzko.2136:

WvWvW isn’t duel zone, it is warground, all around cry pls dont kill me, pls dont kill my oponent, pls go aways we have a duel, no one help u in combat coz they think it is duel. Stop it guys pls, and dear Anet, pls make a duel zone (not guild arena) in pve world, that all over the tyria can enter and use comand /duel or use buff from npc to make dialog with another player and duel him

there already is a dule zone called Obsidian Sanctum. Why they dont’t use it no one knows.

Because duelers are also roamers, camp flippers, and scouts.

I dont see how a dueler who constantly hangs around sm taggin it with dules can call themself a scout/roamer.

Nobody comes to WvW exclusively to duel. They are just dueling for the time being and will probably go back to doing other stuff later. I don’t see how being a zergling makes your spot in queue more important than anyone else’s.

You do what you want i do what i want.

Go ahead, I don’t even duel. Those duelers are way better than your average zergling though. And they will pick your tail if you kitten them off.

I Duel/Roam so I respect the 1v1.
Those that do not respect it are kids/trolls/weak players.

Just let people do their duells, whats so difficult? If you have the urge to interrupt a 1on1 without asking, then you should handle getting insulted and killed by other watchers. But of course you wouldnt kill duellants with watchers because you can only handle fights 2on1 etc. If you dont know about sportsmanship you should atleast google it.

Edit: The “I do what I want”-behaviour doesnt do well with “Dont whisper me”, if YOU do what you want, cant others do aswell?

This is what happens when the honourable strong leave a dying game mode and what you have left are the weak and the loot bag deprived Saturday night pug blobbers.

We had a discussion about improvements to PvP in the PvP-section of this forum. One often named suggestion was to allow for 1 vs. 1 fights. I think that would be the optimal solution to the dueler-issue. It would allow them to fight against all other players who are willing to fight from all other worlds (not just 2). Furthermore, the effects of gold are mitigated. Food, armor, booster, etc. dont matter in PvP. It is therefore from my perspective more skill-based. Moreover, you cannot be interrupted by any other player.

A player next to sm can have multiple motivations. He can search for someone to duel, he can also wait for the next dolyak to kill or he can pretend to be a dueller and secretly hit sm. In the first case, I dont have to care. In the latter two, we have to chase him all over the map that he learns to leave our stuff alone. Furthermore, I come along 2 players fighting. Did the one player attack the other or are they having a duel? I have other things to do than to watch how the action will continue. I saw many cases where a player was attacked and friendly players passed by who thought it would be a duel where in fact it wasnt.

Zetsumei.4975:

This is what happens when the honourable strong leave a dying game mode and what you have left are the weak and the loot bag deprived Saturday night pug blobbers.

Exactly like that late night at the local bar and you are left with little options.

What if all of a sudden we just had a group of people taking spots on the map making a que, and all they’re doing is going around harvesting the nodes in the towers? Will people complain about that now? Technically it’s part of the wvw experience since they intentionally placed it there for people to harvest. Will people start arguing about what the correct way to harvest is? Should people /point before a harvest? If two people are harvesting a node already , do you jump in and start harvesting also? Or do you stand back and wait until they’re done before you harvest?