Guild Wars 2

im looking foward to bunkering down in a fully upgraded keep on Mag bl against DB SEA zerg. havent had a chance to do that since FA/TC/KNG moved to T3

Sovereign.1093:

Pendragon.8735:

ParaldaWind.4523:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Have you ever fought anything outside of our night crew? If not, I’m not surprised you would come to that conclusion. But yeah, even the T3 thread just pointed out that the CL guild is basically free loot bags.

Yes, I don’t base this on Nightcrew. Yak’s bend Nightcrew is a little bit weaker than your guys. But their NA crew is strong/consistent. Just saying after having fought you guys for some time now.

:3

Strong at what? You do know Mag has fought yaks way more than you have, right?

Strong over all.

You’ve fought them, I’ve fought them. And I’ve fought you guys. Your point being?

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

Wow Kaineng used to be so awesome.

But Kaineng is more awesome now. One of the T2 contenders.

By this comment I see why you think yaks are good.

Bah, Kaineng is boring now. The excitement is out of the chase now that the choo choo has stopped.

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

Pendragon.8735:

ParaldaWind.4523:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Have you ever fought anything outside of our night crew? If not, I’m not surprised you would come to that conclusion. But yeah, even the T3 thread just pointed out that the CL guild is basically free loot bags.

Yes, I don’t base this on Nightcrew. Yak’s bend Nightcrew is a little bit weaker than your guys. But their NA crew is strong/consistent. Just saying after having fought you guys for some time now.

:3

Strong at what? You do know Mag has fought yaks way more than you have, right?

Strong over all.

You’ve fought them, I’ve fought them. And I’ve fought you guys. Your point being?

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

Wow Kaineng used to be so awesome.

But Kaineng is more awesome now. One of the T2 contenders.

By this comment I see why you think yaks are good.

I’m merely comparing fighting Yaks to you guys, and not their position in the tiers. But if I were to use the tiers themselves as basis, then they are stronger than you guys because they were able to maintain a tier 3 status more consistently.

In the case of kaining, we fought them at their prime. And when CD herself had more people than we have now.

24/7 score of 0-80 daily was very depressing back then. And the only pride we had at such time was they couldn’t take one supply camp in our borderlands despite having taken everything else, because every CD player would bunker down on that one spot out of desperation.

MrKnieves.4162:

Insignia.6345:

Honestly i can never grasp this perma stealth thing for theives, can anyone tell me what im doing wrong or link a guide or give me some advice? im assuming it revolves around cloak and dagger? or that pistol dagger leap finisher? or both? any help would be appreciated. It’s been bugging me lol.

There is no such thing. As was explained above, culling might give a thief an extra 2 second “stealth” (depending on the computer), but from the thief perspective that is not happening. What people might be calling “perma stealth” is a crafty thief that can escape and uses the environment to his/her advantage.

Perma-stealth is when a thief is in stealth 100% of the time, no culling involved. You can see how it’s done here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSbw8Cpy-3s. Very useful for ressing dead mesmers in a keep since you are near impossible to kill. And yes, dead mesmers can stay dead forever, if you swap out armor while dead it will reset the inactivity timer.

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

Pendragon.8735:

ParaldaWind.4523:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Have you ever fought anything outside of our night crew? If not, I’m not surprised you would come to that conclusion. But yeah, even the T3 thread just pointed out that the CL guild is basically free loot bags.

Yes, I don’t base this on Nightcrew. Yak’s bend Nightcrew is a little bit weaker than your guys. But their NA crew is strong/consistent. Just saying after having fought you guys for some time now.

:3

Strong at what? You do know Mag has fought yaks way more than you have, right?

Strong over all.

You’ve fought them, I’ve fought them. And I’ve fought you guys. Your point being?

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

Wow Kaineng used to be so awesome.

But Kaineng is more awesome now. One of the T2 contenders.

By this comment I see why you think yaks are good.

I’m merely comparing fighting Yaks to you guys, and not their position in the tiers. But if I were to use the tiers themselves as basis, then they are stronger than you guys because they were able to maintain a tier 3 status more consistently.

In the case of kaining, we fought them at their prime. And when CD herself had more people than we have now.

24/7 score of 0-80 daily was very depressing back then. And the only pride we had at such time was they couldn’t take one supply camp in our borderlands despite having taken everything else, because every CD player would bunker down on that one spot out of desperation.

I get your reasoning, I just think it’s stupid. Basing the strength of the server on score and PPT doesn’t interest people that play wvw for pvp.

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

Pendragon.8735:

ParaldaWind.4523:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Have you ever fought anything outside of our night crew? If not, I’m not surprised you would come to that conclusion. But yeah, even the T3 thread just pointed out that the CL guild is basically free loot bags.

Yes, I don’t base this on Nightcrew. Yak’s bend Nightcrew is a little bit weaker than your guys. But their NA crew is strong/consistent. Just saying after having fought you guys for some time now.

:3

Strong at what? You do know Mag has fought yaks way more than you have, right?

Strong over all.

You’ve fought them, I’ve fought them. And I’ve fought you guys. Your point being?

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

Wow Kaineng used to be so awesome.

But Kaineng is more awesome now. One of the T2 contenders.

By this comment I see why you think yaks are good.

I’m merely comparing fighting Yaks to you guys, and not their position in the tiers. But if I were to use the tiers themselves as basis, then they are stronger than you guys because they were able to maintain a tier 3 status more consistently.

In the case of kaining, we fought them at their prime. And when CD herself had more people than we have now.

24/7 score of 0-80 daily was very depressing back then. And the only pride we had at such time was they couldn’t take one supply camp in our borderlands despite having taken everything else, because every CD player would bunker down on that one spot out of desperation.

I get your reasoning, I just think it’s stupid. Basing the strength of the server on score and PPT doesn’t interest people that play wvw for pvp.

I think it’s stupid to base it on score too, which is why I didn’t do so when I stated the above. ^.^

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

Pendragon.8735:

ParaldaWind.4523:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Have you ever fought anything outside of our night crew? If not, I’m not surprised you would come to that conclusion. But yeah, even the T3 thread just pointed out that the CL guild is basically free loot bags.

Yes, I don’t base this on Nightcrew. Yak’s bend Nightcrew is a little bit weaker than your guys. But their NA crew is strong/consistent. Just saying after having fought you guys for some time now.

:3

Strong at what? You do know Mag has fought yaks way more than you have, right?

Strong over all.

You’ve fought them, I’ve fought them. And I’ve fought you guys. Your point being?

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

Wow Kaineng used to be so awesome.

But Kaineng is more awesome now. One of the T2 contenders.

By this comment I see why you think yaks are good.

I’m merely comparing fighting Yaks to you guys, and not their position in the tiers. But if I were to use the tiers themselves as basis, then they are stronger than you guys because they were able to maintain a tier 3 status more consistently.

In the case of kaining, we fought them at their prime. And when CD herself had more people than we have now.

24/7 score of 0-80 daily was very depressing back then. And the only pride we had at such time was they couldn’t take one supply camp in our borderlands despite having taken everything else, because every CD player would bunker down on that one spot out of desperation.

actually that argument is also flawed cuze they played the dying SoS server that gave them free points

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

Pendragon.8735:

ParaldaWind.4523:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Have you ever fought anything outside of our night crew? If not, I’m not surprised you would come to that conclusion. But yeah, even the T3 thread just pointed out that the CL guild is basically free loot bags.

Yes, I don’t base this on Nightcrew. Yak’s bend Nightcrew is a little bit weaker than your guys. But their NA crew is strong/consistent. Just saying after having fought you guys for some time now.

:3

Strong at what? You do know Mag has fought yaks way more than you have, right?

Strong over all.

You’ve fought them, I’ve fought them. And I’ve fought you guys. Your point being?

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

Wow Kaineng used to be so awesome.

But Kaineng is more awesome now. One of the T2 contenders.

By this comment I see why you think yaks are good.

I’m merely comparing fighting Yaks to you guys, and not their position in the tiers. But if I were to use the tiers themselves as basis, then they are stronger than you guys because they were able to maintain a tier 3 status more consistently.

In the case of kaining, we fought them at their prime. And when CD herself had more people than we have now.

24/7 score of 0-80 daily was very depressing back then. And the only pride we had at such time was they couldn’t take one supply camp in our borderlands despite having taken everything else, because every CD player would bunker down on that one spot out of desperation.

I get your reasoning, I just think it’s stupid. Basing the strength of the server on score and PPT doesn’t interest people that play wvw for pvp.

I think it’s stupid to base it on score too, which is why I didn’t do so when I stated the above. ^.^

You literally just based yaks on their consistency in t3. Not one post ago. You just did it.

Vi Au.8341:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

Pendragon.8735:

ParaldaWind.4523:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Have you ever fought anything outside of our night crew? If not, I’m not surprised you would come to that conclusion. But yeah, even the T3 thread just pointed out that the CL guild is basically free loot bags.

Yes, I don’t base this on Nightcrew. Yak’s bend Nightcrew is a little bit weaker than your guys. But their NA crew is strong/consistent. Just saying after having fought you guys for some time now.

:3

Strong at what? You do know Mag has fought yaks way more than you have, right?

Strong over all.

You’ve fought them, I’ve fought them. And I’ve fought you guys. Your point being?

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

Wow Kaineng used to be so awesome.

But Kaineng is more awesome now. One of the T2 contenders.

By this comment I see why you think yaks are good.

I’m merely comparing fighting Yaks to you guys, and not their position in the tiers. But if I were to use the tiers themselves as basis, then they are stronger than you guys because they were able to maintain a tier 3 status more consistently.

In the case of kaining, we fought them at their prime. And when CD herself had more people than we have now.

24/7 score of 0-80 daily was very depressing back then. And the only pride we had at such time was they couldn’t take one supply camp in our borderlands despite having taken everything else, because every CD player would bunker down on that one spot out of desperation.

actually that argument is also flawed cuze they played the dying SoS server that gave them free points

That if I based my argument on Scores which I didn’t but on the experience of having fought YB and you guys.

While Sos is having what we guys at CD had. I’m sure they’ll remain strong like SBI if not better.

Having fought SOS for so long gave me mixed emotions. :/ Someone must lose for another to win. That is the nature of this game.

Waffler.1257:

MrKnieves.4162:

Insignia.6345:

Honestly i can never grasp this perma stealth thing for theives, can anyone tell me what im doing wrong or link a guide or give me some advice? im assuming it revolves around cloak and dagger? or that pistol dagger leap finisher? or both? any help would be appreciated. It’s been bugging me lol.

There is no such thing. As was explained above, culling might give a thief an extra 2 second “stealth” (depending on the computer), but from the thief perspective that is not happening. What people might be calling “perma stealth” is a crafty thief that can escape and uses the environment to his/her advantage.

Perma-stealth is when a thief is in stealth 100% of the time, no culling involved. You can see how it’s done here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSbw8Cpy-3s. Very useful for ressing dead mesmers in a keep since you are near impossible to kill. And yes, dead mesmers can stay dead forever, if you swap out armor while dead it will reset the inactivity timer.

Ah! Yeah, I remember now, used to be a nice trick to keep camps from being capped. Super annoying to do, to say the least! And hardly practical in a fight since most of the initiative/skills are used to stealth. However it might help me with contesting SMC and green keep. Will try it tonight and see how it goes. Might have to swim like a pro, tho.

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

Pendragon.8735:

ParaldaWind.4523:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Have you ever fought anything outside of our night crew? If not, I’m not surprised you would come to that conclusion. But yeah, even the T3 thread just pointed out that the CL guild is basically free loot bags.

Yes, I don’t base this on Nightcrew. Yak’s bend Nightcrew is a little bit weaker than your guys. But their NA crew is strong/consistent. Just saying after having fought you guys for some time now.

:3

Strong at what? You do know Mag has fought yaks way more than you have, right?

Strong over all.

You’ve fought them, I’ve fought them. And I’ve fought you guys. Your point being?

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

Wow Kaineng used to be so awesome.

But Kaineng is more awesome now. One of the T2 contenders.

By this comment I see why you think yaks are good.

I’m merely comparing fighting Yaks to you guys, and not their position in the tiers. But if I were to use the tiers themselves as basis, then they are stronger than you guys because they were able to maintain a tier 3 status more consistently.

In the case of kaining, we fought them at their prime. And when CD herself had more people than we have now.

24/7 score of 0-80 daily was very depressing back then. And the only pride we had at such time was they couldn’t take one supply camp in our borderlands despite having taken everything else, because every CD player would bunker down on that one spot out of desperation.

I get your reasoning, I just think it’s stupid. Basing the strength of the server on score and PPT doesn’t interest people that play wvw for pvp.

I think it’s stupid to base it on score too, which is why I didn’t do so when I stated the above. ^.^

You literally just based yaks on their consistency in t3. Not one post ago. You just did it.

No.

Let me quote the part that you misread.

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

Pendragon.8735:

ParaldaWind.4523:

Sovereign.1093:

Pinko.2076:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Have you ever fought anything outside of our night crew? If not, I’m not surprised you would come to that conclusion. But yeah, even the T3 thread just pointed out that the CL guild is basically free loot bags.

Yes, I don’t base this on Nightcrew. Yak’s bend Nightcrew is a little bit weaker than your guys. But their NA crew is strong/consistent. Just saying after having fought you guys for some time now.

:3

Strong at what? You do know Mag has fought yaks way more than you have, right?

Strong over all.

You’ve fought them, I’ve fought them. And I’ve fought you guys. Your point being?

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

Wow Kaineng used to be so awesome.

But Kaineng is more awesome now. One of the T2 contenders.

By this comment I see why you think yaks are good.

I’m merely comparing fighting Yaks to you guys, and not their position in the tiers. But if I were to use the tiers themselves as basis, then they are stronger than you guys because they were able to maintain a tier 3 status more consistently.

In the case of kaining, we fought them at their prime. And when CD herself had more people than we have now.

24/7 score of 0-80 daily was very depressing back then. And the only pride we had at such time was they couldn’t take one supply camp in our borderlands despite having taken everything else, because every CD player would bunker down on that one spot out of desperation.

Read the first sentence.

Name a yaks guild that has given you trouble, Sovereign. Also a Kaineng guild.

Pinko.2076:

Name a yaks guild that has given you trouble, Sovereign. Also a Kaineng guild.

Trouble in what sense?

Against Kaineng, no guild need mention, just by their number and coverage, we were outmatched.

But if I were to pinpoint my favorite fighters back then when we first me them, it would be the kitten/kitty/mew/cat guild thingy. They were a tight group. I can only compare them to the old LOD of SBI.

As for Yaks. Didn’t really think about guilds. It was their strategy that was a pain. They were very good at siege placements in counter and in offense. Their open ground force was so so, but because of their siege usage, they’re a pain. Reminds me of the old tarnished coast. Go out of your spawn, you will experience treb fire.

Simply, I don’t judge a server based on guilds. I see it as a whole experience. I’m sure those servers will have their heroes, but from my point of view it’s their performance.

Like you guys for example have a very formidable open ground force. I doubt our sea time can match you guys in your prime time. And your siege defense is good too. But I don’t pay attention to a single guild from your server.

My old guildleader back in seaferer once said, if it’s red, it’s dead.

It’s weird that we’ve both faced yaks bend, because you seem to be describing a different server.

Updated T3 scores, for any interested. Still looking like a photo finish on next week.

Pinko.2076:

It’s weird that we’ve both faced yaks bend, because you seem to be describing a different server.

That goes to show my perspective versus yours.

Think about it this way. The way you fight now isn’t the same way as you fought a month or two ago right? It’s the same as CD no longer relies on her old tactics when we had the number of people to cover 24/7.

I’m sure you learned from errors, experimented, and have a current way of doing things which is effective now. I’m sure Yaks bend had a similar epiphany.

Then again, I might be putting them into a high pedestal which they don’t really deserve. After all, this is my opinion.

So, to be certain, you will know when you guys fight them next week.

A question, how long has it been since you guys last faced server vs server?

Mid January, the match Paralda linked

Pinko.2076:

It’s weird that we’ve both faced yaks bend, because you seem to be describing a different server.

You faced YB’s the week after you got bandwagoned with free transfers lolololol, after that we have never faced each other.

Btw, that “dying server” is outranking Maguuma by 4 k aprox, and guess what, they rampage like mad man on SEA/Oceanic/EU timeslots, so YB can’t stop them from earn points. Yak’s Bend at tier 3 on this timeslots is aprox at 0 PPT, it’s our 500+ ppt at NA primetime what hold us.

Also we’re a completely different server now than we were months ago on that matchup with Maguuma, and also a lot more stronger than the last time we faced Crystal Desert at tier 4.

I hope to see Maguuma at tier 3 soon, so we can have fun at NA primetime, and let Dragonbrand to fight against doors on the nights.

santi.7516:

Pinko.2076:

It’s weird that we’ve both faced yaks bend, because you seem to be describing a different server.

You faced YB’s the week after you got bandwagoned with free transfers lolololol, after that we have never faced each other.

Btw, that “dying server” is outranking Maguuma by 4 k aprox, and guess what, they rampage like mad man on SEA/Oceanic/EU timeslots, so YB can’t stop them from earn points. Yak’s Bend at tier 3 on this timeslots is aprox at 0 PPT, it’s our 500+ ppt at NA primetime what hold us.

Also we’re a completely different server now than we were months ago on that matchup with Maguuma, and also a lot more stronger than the last time we faced Crystal Desert at tier 4.

I hope to see Maguuma at tier 3 soon, so we can have fun at NA primetime, and let Dragonbrand to fight against doors on the nights.

We have a long, long history with YB that predates that single match. But yes, I’m sure both of our servers have changed since then. Your comparison of our rating points is a stupid one to make though, as has already been pointed out many times. And it also seems DB has held higher points than you in previous matches, even in NA prime time, when the weekdays roll around.

saiyr.3071:

Mid January, the match Paralda linked

From that time to this time, do you assume that the server you guys fought are still the same?

I guess that is the assumption which is beneficial to your server.

But think of it like this. A week or so ago, in the Januaries, Fort Aspenwood was no match to CD, but sometime after that – CD lost.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/16#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/17#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

A lot of things may have happened since your last encounter.

Sovereign.1093:

Insignia.6345:

Honestly i can never grasp this perma stealth thing for theives, can anyone tell me what im doing wrong or link a guide or give me some advice? im assuming it revolves around cloak and dagger? or that pistol dagger leap finisher? or both? any help would be appreciated. It’s been bugging me lol.

Not much to say, sir.

Reminds me of this video. Very annoying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73xB05E5S7M

Sorry, but I puked a little in my mouth, from the keyboard turning and clicking…

saiyr.3071:

Pendragon.8735:

Maladon.5760:

Haven’t checked the score in a few days, anyone got an update?

Here’s the score that matters. We need new blood up here, Mag has to stop slacking!

Projections

SoS: 1 721.069
Magoombas: 1 719.758

It helps that the T3 matchup was updated 5 hours more recently than the T4 matchup. Maybe you should work harder at stealing free SoS points.

Krash.9486:

Sure they do, we have weekly JP events and give all blue prints to commanders. Our guild members donate coin and mats to build superior siege. We use influence for guild siege…..but we don’t have even a fraction of what we have seen from MAG…you have so many you can let 20 de-spawn and then just build 20 more….maybe it is just the additional population….but I would guess someone is also spending a lot of RL coin to keep that stock of golem.

It would be nice if you didn’t make passive aggressive statements about us based on your guesses. There are people that are really good at playing the TP. Clearly you aren’t one of them (and for the record, neither am I)

LOL " passive aggressive " ??

OK, less “passive” Having that many golem no matter how you got them is stupid and OP. golem should be subject to the same restrictions as other siege. I can only place a certain amount of defensive siege to counter your golem, but you can send in as many of your “TP profit purchased” golem as you want?

John Widdin.9618:

Sovereign.1093:

Insignia.6345:

Honestly i can never grasp this perma stealth thing for theives, can anyone tell me what im doing wrong or link a guide or give me some advice? im assuming it revolves around cloak and dagger? or that pistol dagger leap finisher? or both? any help would be appreciated. It’s been bugging me lol.

Not much to say, sir.

Reminds me of this video. Very annoying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73xB05E5S7M

Sorry, but I puked a little in my mouth, from the keyboard turning and clicking…

Then turn off the sounds. Why would expose yourself to something that will physically cause you harm?

Using more than 10 Golems at a time is a waste anyway, and will only gain you a couple seconds. Even then, you’re still better off with 5-8ish, because of the target limit of Time Warp. That, and then you have to worry about more golems.

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Mid January, the match Paralda linked

From that time to this time, do you assume that the server you guys fought are still the same?

I guess that is the assumption which is beneficial to your server.

But think of it like this. A week or so ago, in the Januaries, Fort Aspenwood was no match to CD, but sometime after that – CD lost.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/16#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/17#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

A lot of things may have happened since your last encounter.

Read my previous reply and you’ll see that I don’t think either server is the same, and I don’t give a crap about people’s anecdote-based predictions. There were lots of mixups back then when free transfers were ending and kitten a ton of people from IoJ, however, and to my knowledge Yak’s Bend got little to no transfers. So think of it like that.

Krash.9486:

saiyr.3071:

Pendragon.8735:

Maladon.5760:

Haven’t checked the score in a few days, anyone got an update?

Here’s the score that matters. We need new blood up here, Mag has to stop slacking!

Projections

SoS: 1 721.069
Magoombas: 1 719.758

It helps that the T3 matchup was updated 5 hours more recently than the T4 matchup. Maybe you should work harder at stealing free SoS points.

Krash.9486:

Sure they do, we have weekly JP events and give all blue prints to commanders. Our guild members donate coin and mats to build superior siege. We use influence for guild siege…..but we don’t have even a fraction of what we have seen from MAG…you have so many you can let 20 de-spawn and then just build 20 more….maybe it is just the additional population….but I would guess someone is also spending a lot of RL coin to keep that stock of golem.

It would be nice if you didn’t make passive aggressive statements about us based on your guesses. There are people that are really good at playing the TP. Clearly you aren’t one of them (and for the record, neither am I)

LOL " passive aggressive " ??

OK, less “passive” Having that many golem no matter how you got them is stupid and OP. golem should be subject to the same restrictions as other siege. I can only place a certain amount of defensive siege to counter your golem, but you can send in as many of your “TP profit purchased” golem as you want?

I agree it’s stupid, just like your attitude.

saiyr.3071:

santi.7516:

Pinko.2076:

It’s weird that we’ve both faced yaks bend, because you seem to be describing a different server.

You faced YB’s the week after you got bandwagoned with free transfers lolololol, after that we have never faced each other.

Btw, that “dying server” is outranking Maguuma by 4 k aprox, and guess what, they rampage like mad man on SEA/Oceanic/EU timeslots, so YB can’t stop them from earn points. Yak’s Bend at tier 3 on this timeslots is aprox at 0 PPT, it’s our 500+ ppt at NA primetime what hold us.

Also we’re a completely different server now than we were months ago on that matchup with Maguuma, and also a lot more stronger than the last time we faced Crystal Desert at tier 4.

I hope to see Maguuma at tier 3 soon, so we can have fun at NA primetime, and let Dragonbrand to fight against doors on the nights.

We have a long, long history with YB that predates that single match. But yes, I’m sure both of our servers have changed since then. Your comparison of our rating points is a stupid one to make though, as has already been pointed out many times. And it also seems DB has held higher points than you in previous matches, even in NA prime time, when the weekdays roll around.

Yes, until last week our battle was for 2nd place, so we focus mainly on SoS, sadly for you guys that wasn’t free points, since Tsym everyday runs with like 60+ crushing everything, if you guys had some problems against the [BT] guild at FA, Tsym is a nightmare then.

This week we did some efforts to score 500+ ppt until our second place was sealed, and now it is, so no more efforts coming from us until next week, where we hope you guys come up.

saiyr.3071:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Mid January, the match Paralda linked

From that time to this time, do you assume that the server you guys fought are still the same?

I guess that is the assumption which is beneficial to your server.

But think of it like this. A week or so ago, in the Januaries, Fort Aspenwood was no match to CD, but sometime after that – CD lost.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/16#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/17#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

A lot of things may have happened since your last encounter.

Read my previous reply and you’ll see that I don’t think either server is the same, and I don’t give a crap about people’s anecdote-based predictions. There were lots of mixups back then when free transfers were ending and kitten a ton of people from IoJ, however, and to my knowledge Yak’s Bend got little to no transfers. So think of it like that.

Krash.9486:

saiyr.3071:

Pendragon.8735:

Maladon.5760:

Haven’t checked the score in a few days, anyone got an update?

Here’s the score that matters. We need new blood up here, Mag has to stop slacking!

Projections

SoS: 1 721.069
Magoombas: 1 719.758

It helps that the T3 matchup was updated 5 hours more recently than the T4 matchup. Maybe you should work harder at stealing free SoS points.

Krash.9486:

Sure they do, we have weekly JP events and give all blue prints to commanders. Our guild members donate coin and mats to build superior siege. We use influence for guild siege…..but we don’t have even a fraction of what we have seen from MAG…you have so many you can let 20 de-spawn and then just build 20 more….maybe it is just the additional population….but I would guess someone is also spending a lot of RL coin to keep that stock of golem.

It would be nice if you didn’t make passive aggressive statements about us based on your guesses. There are people that are really good at playing the TP. Clearly you aren’t one of them (and for the record, neither am I)

LOL " passive aggressive " ??

OK, less “passive” Having that many golem no matter how you got them is stupid and OP. golem should be subject to the same restrictions as other siege. I can only place a certain amount of defensive siege to counter your golem, but you can send in as many of your “TP profit purchased” golem as you want?

I agree it’s stupid, just like your attitude.

Well, can’t argue with a guy who closed his mind. I’ll always welcome you guys back in tier 4 with open arms.

santi.7516:

saiyr.3071:

santi.7516:

Pinko.2076:

It’s weird that we’ve both faced yaks bend, because you seem to be describing a different server.

You faced YB’s the week after you got bandwagoned with free transfers lolololol, after that we have never faced each other.

Btw, that “dying server” is outranking Maguuma by 4 k aprox, and guess what, they rampage like mad man on SEA/Oceanic/EU timeslots, so YB can’t stop them from earn points. Yak’s Bend at tier 3 on this timeslots is aprox at 0 PPT, it’s our 500+ ppt at NA primetime what hold us.

Also we’re a completely different server now than we were months ago on that matchup with Maguuma, and also a lot more stronger than the last time we faced Crystal Desert at tier 4.

I hope to see Maguuma at tier 3 soon, so we can have fun at NA primetime, and let Dragonbrand to fight against doors on the nights.

We have a long, long history with YB that predates that single match. But yes, I’m sure both of our servers have changed since then. Your comparison of our rating points is a stupid one to make though, as has already been pointed out many times. And it also seems DB has held higher points than you in previous matches, even in NA prime time, when the weekdays roll around.

Yes, until last week our battle was for 2nd place, so we focus mainly on SoS, sadly for you guys that wasn’t free points, since Tsym everyday runs with like 60+ crushing everything, if you guys had some problems against the [BT] guild at FA, Tsym is a nightmare then.

This week we did some efforts to score 500+ ppt until our second place was sealed, and now it is, so no more efforts coming from us until next week, where we hope you guys come up.

We did pretty well against BT when we could muster the proper organization. And sorry, I didn’t mean “free” as in no effort, I just meant it was a lot easier to get points from SoS since they’re a falling server. It has nothing to do with how hard either server plays, just that their rating and population are out of sync.

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Mid January, the match Paralda linked

From that time to this time, do you assume that the server you guys fought are still the same?

I guess that is the assumption which is beneficial to your server.

But think of it like this. A week or so ago, in the Januaries, Fort Aspenwood was no match to CD, but sometime after that – CD lost.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/16#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/17#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

A lot of things may have happened since your last encounter.

Read my previous reply and you’ll see that I don’t think either server is the same, and I don’t give a crap about people’s anecdote-based predictions. There were lots of mixups back then when free transfers were ending and kitten a ton of people from IoJ, however, and to my knowledge Yak’s Bend got little to no transfers. So think of it like that.

Krash.9486:

saiyr.3071:

Pendragon.8735:

Maladon.5760:

Haven’t checked the score in a few days, anyone got an update?

Here’s the score that matters. We need new blood up here, Mag has to stop slacking!

Projections

SoS: 1 721.069
Magoombas: 1 719.758

It helps that the T3 matchup was updated 5 hours more recently than the T4 matchup. Maybe you should work harder at stealing free SoS points.

Krash.9486:

Sure they do, we have weekly JP events and give all blue prints to commanders. Our guild members donate coin and mats to build superior siege. We use influence for guild siege…..but we don’t have even a fraction of what we have seen from MAG…you have so many you can let 20 de-spawn and then just build 20 more….maybe it is just the additional population….but I would guess someone is also spending a lot of RL coin to keep that stock of golem.

It would be nice if you didn’t make passive aggressive statements about us based on your guesses. There are people that are really good at playing the TP. Clearly you aren’t one of them (and for the record, neither am I)

LOL " passive aggressive " ??

OK, less “passive” Having that many golem no matter how you got them is stupid and OP. golem should be subject to the same restrictions as other siege. I can only place a certain amount of defensive siege to counter your golem, but you can send in as many of your “TP profit purchased” golem as you want?

I agree it’s stupid, just like your attitude.

Well, can’t argue with a guy who closed his mind. I’ll always welcome you guys back in tier 4 with open arms.

Closed my mind? You are the one that has formed a conclusion about the relative strengths about our two servers. I have made no such conclusions.

saiyr.3071:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Mid January, the match Paralda linked

From that time to this time, do you assume that the server you guys fought are still the same?

I guess that is the assumption which is beneficial to your server.

But think of it like this. A week or so ago, in the Januaries, Fort Aspenwood was no match to CD, but sometime after that – CD lost.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/16#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/17#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

A lot of things may have happened since your last encounter.

Read my previous reply and you’ll see that I don’t think either server is the same, and I don’t give a crap about people’s anecdote-based predictions. There were lots of mixups back then when free transfers were ending and kitten a ton of people from IoJ, however, and to my knowledge Yak’s Bend got little to no transfers. So think of it like that.

Krash.9486:

saiyr.3071:

Pendragon.8735:

Maladon.5760:

Haven’t checked the score in a few days, anyone got an update?

Here’s the score that matters. We need new blood up here, Mag has to stop slacking!

Projections

SoS: 1 721.069
Magoombas: 1 719.758

It helps that the T3 matchup was updated 5 hours more recently than the T4 matchup. Maybe you should work harder at stealing free SoS points.

Krash.9486:

Sure they do, we have weekly JP events and give all blue prints to commanders. Our guild members donate coin and mats to build superior siege. We use influence for guild siege…..but we don’t have even a fraction of what we have seen from MAG…you have so many you can let 20 de-spawn and then just build 20 more….maybe it is just the additional population….but I would guess someone is also spending a lot of RL coin to keep that stock of golem.

It would be nice if you didn’t make passive aggressive statements about us based on your guesses. There are people that are really good at playing the TP. Clearly you aren’t one of them (and for the record, neither am I)

LOL " passive aggressive " ??

OK, less “passive” Having that many golem no matter how you got them is stupid and OP. golem should be subject to the same restrictions as other siege. I can only place a certain amount of defensive siege to counter your golem, but you can send in as many of your “TP profit purchased” golem as you want?

I agree it’s stupid, just like your attitude.

Well, can’t argue with a guy who closed his mind. I’ll always welcome you guys back in tier 4 with open arms.

Closed my mind? You are the one that has formed a conclusion about the relative strengths about our two servers. I have made no such conclusions.

Yes, your server isn’t as strong as the YB we’ve fought previously. That is my conclusion. You need not adhere to it. ^.^

This is my hypothesis. This will be proven right or wrong by the time your two servers will fight next week. Until then, this is what I believe to be true.

If I’m right, then it’s okay. If I’m wrong, I’d be surprised but I’ll be glad. Because it means I need to improve on my in game observation.

I recall comparing FA and Kaineng in the past. I believed FA was stronger. I didn’t expect my CD friends would go to Kaineng. Now, it seems FA and Kaineng are in a tag of war as to who becomes first in tier 2. But I’m glad I was wrong then, because I realized that the number of CD players who transferred tilted the scale.

^.^
—-
If you’re not familiar with this method, it’s a very simplified version of the scientific method.

1. State your hypothesis.
2. Gather data
3. Conclude
4. Compare conclusion to hypothesis
5. Accept or reject hypothesis.

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Mid January, the match Paralda linked

From that time to this time, do you assume that the server you guys fought are still the same?

I guess that is the assumption which is beneficial to your server.

But think of it like this. A week or so ago, in the Januaries, Fort Aspenwood was no match to CD, but sometime after that – CD lost.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/16#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/17#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

A lot of things may have happened since your last encounter.

Read my previous reply and you’ll see that I don’t think either server is the same, and I don’t give a crap about people’s anecdote-based predictions. There were lots of mixups back then when free transfers were ending and kitten a ton of people from IoJ, however, and to my knowledge Yak’s Bend got little to no transfers. So think of it like that.

Krash.9486:

saiyr.3071:

Pendragon.8735:

Maladon.5760:

Haven’t checked the score in a few days, anyone got an update?

Here’s the score that matters. We need new blood up here, Mag has to stop slacking!

Projections

SoS: 1 721.069
Magoombas: 1 719.758

It helps that the T3 matchup was updated 5 hours more recently than the T4 matchup. Maybe you should work harder at stealing free SoS points.

Krash.9486:

Sure they do, we have weekly JP events and give all blue prints to commanders. Our guild members donate coin and mats to build superior siege. We use influence for guild siege…..but we don’t have even a fraction of what we have seen from MAG…you have so many you can let 20 de-spawn and then just build 20 more….maybe it is just the additional population….but I would guess someone is also spending a lot of RL coin to keep that stock of golem.

It would be nice if you didn’t make passive aggressive statements about us based on your guesses. There are people that are really good at playing the TP. Clearly you aren’t one of them (and for the record, neither am I)

LOL " passive aggressive " ??

OK, less “passive” Having that many golem no matter how you got them is stupid and OP. golem should be subject to the same restrictions as other siege. I can only place a certain amount of defensive siege to counter your golem, but you can send in as many of your “TP profit purchased” golem as you want?

I agree it’s stupid, just like your attitude.

Well, can’t argue with a guy who closed his mind. I’ll always welcome you guys back in tier 4 with open arms.

Closed my mind? You are the one that has formed a conclusion about the relative strengths about our two servers. I have made no such conclusions.

Yes, your server isn’t as strong as the YB we’ve fought previously. That is my conclusion. You need not adhere to it. ^.^

I’m not, and somehow that makes me close minded. Unless you were calling yourself close minded, which makes a lot more sense.

saiyr.3071:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Sovereign.1093:

saiyr.3071:

Mid January, the match Paralda linked

From that time to this time, do you assume that the server you guys fought are still the same?

I guess that is the assumption which is beneficial to your server.

But think of it like this. A week or so ago, in the Januaries, Fort Aspenwood was no match to CD, but sometime after that – CD lost.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/16#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/17#na
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/18#NA

A lot of things may have happened since your last encounter.

Read my previous reply and you’ll see that I don’t think either server is the same, and I don’t give a crap about people’s anecdote-based predictions. There were lots of mixups back then when free transfers were ending and kitten a ton of people from IoJ, however, and to my knowledge Yak’s Bend got little to no transfers. So think of it like that.

Krash.9486:

saiyr.3071:

Pendragon.8735:

Maladon.5760:

Haven’t checked the score in a few days, anyone got an update?

Here’s the score that matters. We need new blood up here, Mag has to stop slacking!

Projections

SoS: 1 721.069
Magoombas: 1 719.758

It helps that the T3 matchup was updated 5 hours more recently than the T4 matchup. Maybe you should work harder at stealing free SoS points.

Krash.9486:

Sure they do, we have weekly JP events and give all blue prints to commanders. Our guild members donate coin and mats to build superior siege. We use influence for guild siege…..but we don’t have even a fraction of what we have seen from MAG…you have so many you can let 20 de-spawn and then just build 20 more….maybe it is just the additional population….but I would guess someone is also spending a lot of RL coin to keep that stock of golem.

It would be nice if you didn’t make passive aggressive statements about us based on your guesses. There are people that are really good at playing the TP. Clearly you aren’t one of them (and for the record, neither am I)

LOL " passive aggressive " ??

OK, less “passive” Having that many golem no matter how you got them is stupid and OP. golem should be subject to the same restrictions as other siege. I can only place a certain amount of defensive siege to counter your golem, but you can send in as many of your “TP profit purchased” golem as you want?

I agree it’s stupid, just like your attitude.

Well, can’t argue with a guy who closed his mind. I’ll always welcome you guys back in tier 4 with open arms.

Closed my mind? You are the one that has formed a conclusion about the relative strengths about our two servers. I have made no such conclusions.

Yes, your server isn’t as strong as the YB we’ve fought previously. That is my conclusion. You need not adhere to it. ^.^

I’m not, and somehow that makes me close minded. Unless you were calling yourself close minded, which makes a lot more sense.

No. I said you closed your mind. I did not call you close minded. They are not the same.

I’m merely an observer here. And my observation says YB is stronger. But to confirm it, again, like I posted before will be known next week when the actual fight becomes a reality.

So, we’ll know next week.

Sorry, I guess my English isn’t up to par.

Sovereign.1093:

And my observation says YB is stronger. But to confirm it, again, like I posted before will be known next week when the actual fight becomes a reality.

That is actually not a reality yet. I’ve done my best to encourage it, but points are not won on the forums.

They should be. We’d be T1 baby!!!

Pendragon.8735:

Sovereign.1093:

And my observation says YB is stronger. But to confirm it, again, like I posted before will be known next week when the actual fight becomes a reality.

That is actually not a reality yet. I’ve done my best to encourage it, but points are not won on the forums.

Yes, that’s why it is a theory. Based on what I think to be true, but will be confirmed or denied next week.

saiyr.3071:

I agree it’s stupid, just like your attitude.

Ah yes…..an all out aggressive, aggressive attitude is so much better and smart too…..WTG!

Krash.9486:

saiyr.3071:

I agree it’s stupid, just like your attitude.

Ah yes…..an all out aggressive, aggressive attitude is so much better and smart too…..WTG!

This is literally you: wah wah golems are overpowered and maguuma is filled with spoiled kids with super rich parents omg they have such an advantage just because they have so much money irl!!

Fun fact, we took your garrison with one golem and a couple rams during NA prime time. How’s that for a poor man’s assault?

saiyr.3071:

Krash.9486:

saiyr.3071:

I agree it’s stupid, just like your attitude.

Ah yes…..an all out aggressive, aggressive attitude is so much better and smart too…..WTG!

This is literally you: wah wah golems are overpowered and maguuma is filled with spoiled kids with super rich parents omg they have such an advantage just because they have so much money irl!!

Fun fact, we took your garrison with one golem and a couple rams during NA prime time. How’s that for a poor man’s assault?

Another fun fact, I have a screenshot of my guild taking two keeps from SBI… while outmanned… without using siege.

I find it hilarious that the players from Maguuma on this forum can’t accept the fact that one person believes Yaks Bend is a stronger server than them. Holy kitten get over it, I have tried so hard in the past to not judge Mags based on their forum warriors, but you have the attitude of a child I can’t help but think most players from Mag are 12 years of age or younger. If someone says a server is better than you at open field combat, you get so defensive and give every excuse in the book to explain why “you’re so leet”. Every server has good and bad players, every server has good and not so good guilds.

Who cares who is “the best open field” server. You can’t prove your claims…. pics, videos or just chest thumping proves nothing. I look forward to fighting Mag again, whether they stomp us or we (Yaks Bend) stomp you I don’t care, because we both know that we will wipe each other and get wiped by each other. I admit that Mags has many good players and roamers, but I think you guys need to accept that not everybody thinks you’re the best. You may think that, and that’s fine… it’s good you have pride in your server, but please stop with the “oh we are so much better than Yaks Bend”, because you sound like little kids who just have to believe they are the best.

You may have destroyed Yaks Bend last time we met due to your large amount of transfers, but two things to remember:

1. In the history of Mags vs Yaks, Yaks have beaten Maguuma more times than you have beat Yaks.

2. Servers are always changing their tactics and new players are always added to the scene of WvW frequently. So, servers can change a lot in a month. I’m not gonna claim that Yaks will win, because I don’t know. BUT, I will be surprised if Mags can take 2nd place in tier 3 with a large margin of points ahead of YB.

p.s Don’t cry over this post, I’m merely asking you to stop acting so childish and just get over the fact that not everyone has to think that your leet

saiyr.3071:

Krash.9486:

saiyr.3071:

I agree it’s stupid, just like your attitude.

Ah yes…..an all out aggressive, aggressive attitude is so much better and smart too…..WTG!

This is literally you: wah wah golems are overpowered and maguuma is filled with spoiled kids with super rich parents omg they have such an advantage just because they have so much money irl!!

Fun fact, we took your garrison with one golem and a couple rams during NA prime time. How’s that for a poor man’s assault?

I literally have tears running out of my eyes laughing so hard at this post XD

Do another….do another…!!

Strippling.3524:

I find it hilarious that the players from Maguuma on this forum can’t accept the fact that one person believes Yaks Bend is a stronger server than them.

Someone wanted to stir up crap, and they did. And we are not the only ones that found it irresistible to chime in…

Strippling.3524:

1. In the history of Mags vs Yaks, Yaks have beaten Maguuma more times than you have beat Yaks.

Stripping out the context that most of the time you fought Maguuma, you also fought Ehmry Bay, and we were at each others throats the entire time, yes, you won. I don’t even see how this is relevant. One of the biggest factors in WvW victories isn’t even skill, it’s population, and that immediately discards this part of the history as irrelevant.

Whew. This thread is getting hot. Here are some coals.

IMHO – SBI has better field work than YB and Mag when they’re up and about.

they came from… behind

Christ, this is what happens when the roamers leave. People start actually saying YB is stronger in open field than Mag. Whoever is left, you need to step it up. YB shouldn’t even be mentioned in discussions of open field fighting unless the question is who is the worst, and if people are going so far as to say they’re better than Mag, there’s a serious problem.

dreztina.4820:

Christ, this is what happens when the roamers leave. People start actually saying YB is stronger in open field than Mag. Whoever is left, you need to step it up. YB shouldn’t even be mentioned in discussions of open field fighting unless the question is who is the worst, and if people are going so far as to say they’re better than Mag, there’s a serious problem.

You have a memory problem, they did it all the time when you still did WvW

Legendary achievement unlocked!

Waffler.1257:

Legendary achievement unlocked!

He won’t get into our Mumble ;_;

Just like old times in here, but there is work to be done ppl!