Guild Wars 2

Xsorus.2507:

I think most people understand at this point that “winning” in World vs World, has less to do how “skilled” your server is, and more to do with how “Many” are on that server.

This isn’t DAOC, The most populated server has the advantage pretty much 100% of the time in World vs World.

I don’t think you’ll find anyone on Maguuma who would argue with this.

Xsorus.2507:

I think most people understand at this point that “winning” in World vs World, has less to do how “skilled” your server is, and more to do with how “Many” are on that server.

This isn’t DAOC, The most populated server has the advantage pretty much 100% of the time in World vs World.

I think you missed what I said,

GuardianOMS.8067:

…they’ll let everything fall to five people and a superior ram…

This was no zerg battle, though at the gate of Garrison, we picked up more people. I can understand you’re not as populated or have as the same coverage/prime time as us but five people capped the entire eastern side of the map while double our numbers of SBI were at SW tower.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Xsorus.2507:

I think most people understand at this point that “winning” in World vs World, has less to do how “skilled” your server is, and more to do with how “Many” are on that server.

This isn’t DAOC, The most populated server has the advantage pretty much 100% of the time in World vs World.

I think you missed what I said,

GuardianOMS.8067:

…they’ll let everything fall to five people and a superior ram…

This was no zerg battle, though at the gate of Garrison, we picked up more people. I can understand you’re not as populated or have as the same coverage/prime time as us but five people capped the entire eastern side of the map while double our numbers of SBI were at SW tower.

You must not understand what i’m saying, It doesn’t matter if they came and defeated you and kept you from taking the eastern side.

You’re going to win this match up because you have more people covering other maps at more times this us, Just like when SBI was doing it in the previous Tier.

It wasn’t anytime with us being better managed, or being amazing at the game, We simply had more people.

Its the same for every tier, The number 1 server always has more people.

Nowhere in her post did she talk about winning the entire match.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Xsorus.2507:

I think most people understand at this point that “winning” in World vs World, has less to do how “skilled” your server is, and more to do with how “Many” are on that server.

This isn’t DAOC, The most populated server has the advantage pretty much 100% of the time in World vs World.

I think you missed what I said,

GuardianOMS.8067:

…they’ll let everything fall to five people and a superior ram…

This was no zerg battle, though at the gate of Garrison, we picked up more people. I can understand you’re not as populated or have as the same coverage/prime time as us but five people capped the entire eastern side of the map while double our numbers of SBI were at SW tower.

Was this when we were partied up? The “let’s just see if we can” Keep attack?

Also sorry again to that SBI Mesmer I was fighting outside your spawn I did shout at them…a lot to back off so we could continue, Please come to the next fight club.

No, it was “SBI ticked me off on Mag BL, let’s go take their toys.”

Xsorus.2507:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Xsorus.2507:

I think most people understand at this point that “winning” in World vs World, has less to do how “skilled” your server is, and more to do with how “Many” are on that server.

This isn’t DAOC, The most populated server has the advantage pretty much 100% of the time in World vs World.

I think you missed what I said,

GuardianOMS.8067:

…they’ll let everything fall to five people and a superior ram…

This was no zerg battle, though at the gate of Garrison, we picked up more people. I can understand you’re not as populated or have as the same coverage/prime time as us but five people capped the entire eastern side of the map while double our numbers of SBI were at SW tower.

You must not understand what i’m saying, It doesn’t matter if they came and defeated you and kept you from taking the eastern side.

You’re going to win this match up because you have more people covering other maps at more times this us, Just like when SBI was doing it in the previous Tier.

It wasn’t anytime with us being better managed, or being amazing at the game, We simply had more people.

Its the same for every tier, The number 1 server always has more people.

It’s not about overall score or who is winning. Part of the fun in these terrible match ups is to find the little fights and gain small victories. You have the numbers, it just sounds like you’re already demoralized for some reason.

And it did matter if you stopped us, because it wasn’t a serious push and we all would have gone elsewhere. Usually when five people are taking something, it’s a ninja team, and those are less likely to respond with a zerg unless it’s Garrison. And as you can see, that didn’t even happen. One wipe and we were off the BL. This situation had nothing to do with our number advantage and you’re trying to make it seem that way.

Nothing matters, it’s a video game. That’s not the argument…. cripes.

GuardianOMS.8067:

No, it was “SBI ticked me off on Mag BL, let’s go take their toys.”

Xsorus.2507:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Xsorus.2507:

I think most people understand at this point that “winning” in World vs World, has less to do how “skilled” your server is, and more to do with how “Many” are on that server.

This isn’t DAOC, The most populated server has the advantage pretty much 100% of the time in World vs World.

I think you missed what I said,

GuardianOMS.8067:

…they’ll let everything fall to five people and a superior ram…

This was no zerg battle, though at the gate of Garrison, we picked up more people. I can understand you’re not as populated or have as the same coverage/prime time as us but five people capped the entire eastern side of the map while double our numbers of SBI were at SW tower.

You must not understand what i’m saying, It doesn’t matter if they came and defeated you and kept you from taking the eastern side.

You’re going to win this match up because you have more people covering other maps at more times this us, Just like when SBI was doing it in the previous Tier.

It wasn’t anytime with us being better managed, or being amazing at the game, We simply had more people.

Its the same for every tier, The number 1 server always has more people.

It’s not about overall score or who is winning. Part of the fun in these terrible match ups is to find the little fights and gain small victories. You have the numbers, it just sounds like you’re already demoralized for some reason.

And it did matter if you stopped us, because it wasn’t a serious push and we all would have gone elsewhere. Usually when five people are taking something, it’s a ninja team, and those are less likely to respond with a zerg unless it’s Garrison. And as you can see, that didn’t even happen. One wipe and we were off the BL. This situation had nothing to do with our number advantage and you’re trying to make it seem that way.

We don’t have the numbers to win the entire Match…..Your server fields bigger zergs, and it fields them more often, and at more times of the day.

It has nothing to do with being demoralized either, I personally haven’t cared for a while where we are in the rankings or if we win or lose a match, Because I understand how the match is won and lost.

Again, If they had stopped you, It would of amounted to nothing, because this Match was already decided long ago.

So you are seriously demoralized to the point that five people can just walk over you? Man, the ONE thing you should be doing is picking your battles and having fun and you refuse to do that because “it would amount to nothing”? There is no point to trying to have a discussion with you. Nothing personal, but being a defeatist about five people on a BL is something I just cannot pretend to understand.

GuardianOMS.8067:

So you are seriously demoralized to the point that five people can just walk over you? Man, the ONE thing you should be doing is picking your battles and having fun and you refuse to do that because “it would amount to nothing”? There is no point to trying to have a discussion with you. Nothing personal, but being a defeatist about five people on a BL is something I just cannot pretend to understand.

Again, you seem to not understand..

You think people are demoralized, or that we’re losing cause “oh woe as me attitude”

That’s not the case, You have more people, You’re going to win because of this….You taking the keeps has not real change in the outcome of this. SBI is going to lose, You’re going to win….This is really a no brainer.

Now I personally don’t know who defended what, or took what in borderlands, But you seem to think that we’re demoralized by it from me telling you that you already won the matchup.

You’re not getting that in the end, What you do is not meaningful to match anymore then them having defended if they would have bothered.

saiyr.3071:

Xsorus.2507:

saiyr.3071:

Nowhere in her post did she talk about winning the entire match.

She’s talking crap about SBI letting her take half the map while they took a tower…Completely ignoring the fact that it doesn’t matter that she took half the map or that we took the tower either…

When it comes down to it, You’re going to win because you’re going to have more people to take things when no one is on…We could completely dominate all day long and then go to bed and have your entire side take everything and we’d still lose.

Its why most people don’t take the WvW that seriously anymore.

The points we get from that doesn’t matter, no. Why do you do WvW? I can tell you why I play — I like doing things well, whether or not it gets us any points. Be it open field fights or making people fight tooth and nail for every inch in our borderlands when the matchup has already been decided. What happened in this case is neither, and that’s why we’re a little confused. Or at least, why I’m confused.

I world vs world for the sake of PvP, I don’t follow the score or really care in the end if we win or lose because I know its not based off of skill or playing well.

I cannot answer you why they chose not to defend, or why they let you take anything on that map…

But i can tell you that it would not have mattered if they had defended the map from you cause the match is already over.

Wow, just wow. Have I mentioned how much I love Maguuma lately?

Nobody is, or ever was, saying that it mattered with respect to the outcome of this match. But whatever, let’s move on.

No, Its only been about someone bragging about taking half the map cause they’re upset someone /laughed a them.

Oh the drama.

SBI and Mag keep it up.

>3<

saiyr.3071:

Nobody is, or ever was, saying that it mattered with respect to the outcome of this match. But whatever, let’s move on.

I agree. Are we really going to start QQing over population like the DR forum warriors we had to deal with for the past three weeks? I thought we were better than that.

Yams.6082:

saiyr.3071:

Nobody is, or ever was, saying that it mattered with respect to the outcome of this match. But whatever, let’s move on.

I agree. Are we really going to start QQing over population like the DR forum warriors we had to deal with for the past three weeks? I thought we were better than that.

I’m actually kind of amused you think its QQing over population..

Since there is none of that to be had.

Pointing out that the reason servers win matches in World vs World cause of population isn’t QQing, its stating a fact….Last week we won for that reason, Unless you magically think we’re just better players then IoJ and DR.

Thinking its funny that some person bragging about taking half a map in a match he/she has already won cause he/she is upset about someone /laughing at them is the other amusing part of this thread.

Xsorus.2507:

I’m actually kind of amused you think its QQing over population..

Since there as none of that to be had.

Pointing out that the reason servers win matches in World vs World cause of population isn’t QQing, its stating a fact….Last week we won for that reason, Unless you magically think we’re just better players then IoJ and DR.

Thinking its funny that some person bragging about taking half a map in a match he/she has already won cause he/she is upset about someone /laughing at them is the other amusing part of this thread.

I think any discussion of population is moot because everyone is aware of the “facts” and issues. It contributes nothing positive or constructive. Instead, it invites bickering and fosters animosity.

Yams.6082:

Xsorus.2507:

I’m actually kind of amused you think its QQing over population..

Since there as none of that to be had.

Pointing out that the reason servers win matches in World vs World cause of population isn’t QQing, its stating a fact….Last week we won for that reason, Unless you magically think we’re just better players then IoJ and DR.

Thinking its funny that some person bragging about taking half a map in a match he/she has already won cause he/she is upset about someone /laughing at them is the other amusing part of this thread.

I think any discussion of population is moot because everyone is aware of the “facts” and issues. It contributes nothing positive or constructive; instead it invites bickering and fosters animosity.

Judging by some of the responses, I don’t think everyone is aware of the facts

Some seem to think its “demoralization”

I walked up to 2 guys attacking a tower of the enemy team yesterday in the late evening. They were meleeing it. They had been meleeing it for 15 minutes and not a single person had come to defend it or check on it. So I joined them. We meleed the door down for another 5-10 minutes and took the tower. Three people.

You only needed one person to come and ruin our day. Pointing out that not a single person came is not bragging. We are honestly confused as to where your people are.

[HKHS] thanks the CD people that fought us at north north camp in CD BL. Was a ton of fun being on my power necro. Props to the mesmer who never quit coming back until the job was done.

Xsorus.2507:

No, Its only been about someone bragging about taking half the map cause they’re upset someone /laughed a them.

No one was bragging, are you so thick you can’t see anything passed that? I was genuinely amazed how five people take half a map and your response was because we’re winning, stopping you wouldn’t have mattered, you have more numbers than us. Someone did not /laugh, it was a half the defenders in the Garrison. Said laughing didn’t happen until after we took the borderland so you just have this ALL wrong.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Xsorus.2507:

No, Its only been about someone bragging about taking half the map cause they’re upset someone /laughed a them.

No one was bragging, are you so thick you can’t see anything passed that? I was genuinely amazed how five people take half a map and your response was because we’re winning, stopping you wouldn’t have mattered, you have more numbers than us. Someone did not /laugh, it was a half the defenders in the Garrison. Said laughing didn’t happen until after we took the borderland so you just have this ALL wrong.

Someone /laughed at you after you took all the borderlands from the Garrison is what I get from that rambling you did.

This seems to have upset you enough to make a post about it on the forums.

A post about how awesome you are at taking a bunch of unmanned towers it seems with no defenders…except for the few people at garrison who /laughed.

Great post…

im so glad this is still going on

Had a lot of fun on CD BL tonight with our 4 man group, great fun. Will be checking out SBI BL some this week. Have not been around much the last several weeks… rl and all but glad to be back hope this weeks fun continues.

kerona.3465:

I walked up to 2 guys attacking a tower of the enemy team yesterday in the late evening. They were meleeing it. They had been meleeing it for 15 minutes and not a single person had come to defend it or check on it. So I joined them. We meleed the door down for another 5-10 minutes and took the tower. Three people.

You only needed one person to come and ruin our day. Pointing out that not a single person came is not bragging. We are honestly confused as to where your people are.

Its quite possible no one was there? I mean..I’ve ran around the other borderlands seeing zergs upon zergs from your realm, and maybe every once and a while i run across 1 or 2 from my server.

I mean you’re the most populated realm in this tier and you’re asking why you don’t see anyone else from the lower populated servers?

I soloed a keep on my Thief in the tier below….soloed….a….keep with a thief…

Let that sink in..

At some point a it may just be better to PM each other o,O

There have been a lot….A LOT of fairly balanced and fun battles in the match up from my prospective. There have also been times one server has coverage and others don’t. With people from all over the world in different time zones and varying populations on each server………ummm I don’t really need to explain that, do I.

This is the current state of WvW…..it will never always be what you want or expect….but for me I have found things to enjoy in just about every match….other wise…why would I keep coming back? Find the fun in it for you….or go do something else you enjoy…..pretty easy. =)

And…you melee’d a gate down? Really? o.O How long did that take?

Krash.9486:

At some point a it may just be better to PM each other o,O

There have been a lot….A LOT of fairly balanced and fun battles in the match up from my prospective. There have also been times one server has coverage and others don’t. With people from all over the world in different time zones and varying populations on each server………ummm I don’t really need to explain that, do I.

This is the current state of WvW…..it will never always be what you want or expect….but for me I have found things to enjoy in just about every match….other wise…why would I keep coming back? Find the fun in it for you….or go do something else you enjoy…..pretty easy. =)

And…you melee’d a gate down? Really? o.O How long did that take?

I’m going to guess 25 minutes, since he said they’d been meleeing it for 15 minutes before they showed up, and then another 10 minutes afterwards to finish it off.

As for fairly balanced matches, Yes you’ll run across even matches all the time in World vs World. However for every even match you see, You have a couple groups running around unopposed like they were.

You are more than welcome to ignore anyone in this conversation. Please don’t act as if anything else is going on in this thread that we’re disrupting.

Xsorus.2507:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Xsorus.2507:

No, Its only been about someone bragging about taking half the map cause they’re upset someone /laughed a them.

No one was bragging, are you so thick you can’t see anything passed that? I was genuinely amazed how five people take half a map and your response was because we’re winning, stopping you wouldn’t have mattered, you have more numbers than us. Someone did not /laugh, it was a half the defenders in the Garrison. Said laughing didn’t happen until after we took the borderland so you just have this ALL wrong.

Someone /laughed at you after you took all the borderlands from the Garrison is what I get from that rambling you did.

This seems to have upset you enough to make a post about it on the forums.

A post about how awesome you are at taking a bunch of unmanned towers it seems with no defenders…except for the few people at garrison who /laughed.

Great post…

If that’s what you’re taking away then you’re choosing over and over to ignore the fact that you are so demoralized, a small group of people are able to just walk all over you. More to the fact, you’re so defensive of it, all you see it as is bragging. This is something that is fairly common coming from the losing side.

Oh no, people emoted at me! I am so mad! OMG! I never mentioned how “awesome” I was, nor did I hint that it takes even a remote amount of skill to PvD. I posted about it because the taking of half a borderland should never happen when there are 15+ defenders on the map edit: and it only took five people and one piece of seige to take each target. And to have those defenders emote despite the big picture, is true Maguuman behavior, and I honestly like that.

You must think it’s a great post because you’re upset enough to reply to it.

Question!

Hypothetically speaking, if I were to dip into the Sapphire Sanctum jumping puzzle this week, being from Stormbluff, would I be immediately whacked upon discovery or do I at least get to get to finish it and grab the chest before I am murdered?

HAMMER OF MAGUUMA? Hammer of Maguuma.

ParaldaWind.4523:

HAMMER OF MAGUUMA? Hammer of Maguuma.

They call me the Maguuma Mallet.

My dear Charr CoF-geared SBI Commander,
Why do you want my camps so much?
You don’t need the supply, so it shouldn’t be a fuss.
Round and round the map we go.
Let’s follow the swords, to NW camp we go!
Oh look, there you are, using Hundred Blades on a supervisor.
Here I come! Prepare to taste some displeasure!
Oh no! Your necro friend is dying! Quick, come revive her!
You did! Wait, what?! Did she just become a leopard?
Wait! Don’t run away, can’t you see that I love you?
You’re the only one that I want to pursue.
But now, I sit in a tower, alone on my homeland
I’ll wait for the day I get to see you again.

They’re kinda like big hammers.

They say, golems in keep. I was like.

I’ll fix it, then BAM!!!

>3<

I apologize to CD. We had more golems at SBI’s keep, but some died. I think there were only 14 when we got to you.

Xsorus.2507:

I think most people understand at this point that “winning” in World vs World, has less to do how “skilled” your server is, and more to do with how “Many” are on that server.

This isn’t DAOC, The most populated server has the advantage pretty much 100% of the time in World vs World.

Maybe the game needs like an efficiency score, in addition to overall scoreboard. How many points you are earning per player, per hour, per population. Or just do the point scaling to population many have advised for so long.

Probably too competitive for Anet’s view of the mode though.

A picture of the Pre-19 Golem Hammer Guardian only keep wiping we did on the BLs.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Question!

Hypothetically speaking, if I were to dip into the Sapphire Sanctum jumping puzzle this week, being from Stormbluff, would I be immediately whacked upon discovery or do I at least get to get to finish it and grab the chest before I am murdered?

theres alot of carebears on mag that do jp, i’d be more worried about CD, they love jp fights.

that being said, expect to get chased down and killed if you see CAMP

Fireworks, golems….good times

wads.5730:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Question!

Hypothetically speaking, if I were to dip into the Sapphire Sanctum jumping puzzle this week, being from Stormbluff, would I be immediately whacked upon discovery or do I at least get to get to finish it and grab the chest before I am murdered?

theres alot of carebears on mag that do jp, i’d be more worried about CD, they love jp fights.

that being said, expect to get chased down and killed if you see CAMP

So, be prepared to run like I stole it. Gotcha

I haven’t been playing much lately but wanted to drop by and say hi to Grundlebad and the [KT] guys. I remember playing with you for a spell during SBI’s euro timeslot of DEATH way back when. Seems like ancient history now…

Guys, if interested in GVG, Guild Presence [Awe] is looking for guild vs guild, Sea/Oceanic time zone. Please pm Ren.6351 in game. Thanks.

Ren will be online during Oceanic/Sea time zone; so you can mail him if you’re interested.

^.^

Xsorus.2507:

[…………..] But i can tell you that it would not have mattered if they had defended the map from you cause the match is already over.

Not to revive a dead horse but stop being so nihilistic… What I see from your argument repeating over and over on the last pages is “we won’t be #1, therefore kitten trying …”

First. I offer you a bottle of YOLO and welcome to our world. Every single match Mag is in now is already predetermined in terms of #1 and usually 2 and 3 but so what? It doesn’t mean no one is allowed * gasp * try.

You can play your way but everyone else will discuss the battles and tactics regardless of final ranks.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Question!

Hypothetically speaking, if I were to dip into the Sapphire Sanctum jumping puzzle this week, being from Stormbluff, would I be immediately whacked upon discovery or do I at least get to get to finish it and grab the chest before I am murdered?

Message me ingame and ill make sure to check it out and let you know if we have any campers there.

AjoraOaks.3659:

They’re kinda like big hammers.

LOL!! o.O K,….now that’s just way too many golem…..you go from melee a door down for 30 minutes to…..ummm..vaporizing the door in two seconds?

I hope those are the hybrid models…or you just blew a hole in the ozone and advanced global warming to the point it has become cyclical and a new ice age is certain!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? O.O

No, but really….that’s awesome!

GuardianOMS.8067:

You are more than welcome to ignore anyone in this conversation. Please don’t act as if anything else is going on in this thread that we’re disrupting.

Xsorus.2507:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Xsorus.2507:

No, Its only been about someone bragging about taking half the map cause they’re upset someone /laughed a them.

No one was bragging, are you so thick you can’t see anything passed that? I was genuinely amazed how five people take half a map and your response was because we’re winning, stopping you wouldn’t have mattered, you have more numbers than us. Someone did not /laugh, it was a half the defenders in the Garrison. Said laughing didn’t happen until after we took the borderland so you just have this ALL wrong.

Someone /laughed at you after you took all the borderlands from the Garrison is what I get from that rambling you did.

This seems to have upset you enough to make a post about it on the forums.

A post about how awesome you are at taking a bunch of unmanned towers it seems with no defenders…except for the few people at garrison who /laughed.

Great post…

If that’s what you’re taking away then you’re choosing over and over to ignore the fact that you are so demoralized, a small group of people are able to just walk all over you. More to the fact, you’re so defensive of it, all you see it as is bragging. This is something that is fairly common coming from the losing side.

Oh no, people emoted at me! I am so mad! OMG! I never mentioned how “awesome” I was, nor did I hint that it takes even a remote amount of skill to PvD. I posted about it because the taking of half a borderland should never happen when there are 15+ defenders on the map edit: and it only took five people and one piece of seige to take each target. And to have those defenders emote despite the big picture, is true Maguuman behavior, and I honestly like that.

You must think it’s a great post because you’re upset enough to reply to it.

I do think its a great post, I mean…..It was quite an entertaining read to be honest.

I mean its not often I see people get so mad at people /laughing at them that they have to make a post about it calling them smug.

Zephyrus.9680:

Xsorus.2507:

[…………..] But i can tell you that it would not have mattered if they had defended the map from you cause the match is already over.

Not to revive a dead horse but stop being so nihilistic… What I see from your argument repeating over and over on the last pages is “we won’t be #1, therefore kitten trying …”

First. I offer you a bottle of YOLO and welcome to our world. Every single match Mag is in now is already predetermined in terms of #1 and usually 2 and 3 but so what? It doesn’t mean no one is allowed * gasp * try.

You can play your way but everyone else will discuss the battles and tactics regardless of final ranks.

You’re welcome to try all you want

It still won’t change the outcome

Why this upsets you that someone points out that the games World vs World ranking system is nothing more then a ranking based on Population I don’t know..

I thought this was well known by now.

Xsorus.2507:

Zephyrus.9680:

Xsorus.2507:

[…………..] But i can tell you that it would not have mattered if they had defended the map from you cause the match is already over.

Not to revive a dead horse but stop being so nihilistic… What I see from your argument repeating over and over on the last pages is “we won’t be #1, therefore kitten trying …”

First. I offer you a bottle of YOLO and welcome to our world. Every single match Mag is in now is already predetermined in terms of #1 and usually 2 and 3 but so what? It doesn’t mean no one is allowed * gasp * try.

You can play your way but everyone else will discuss the battles and tactics regardless of final ranks.

You’re welcome to try all you want

It still won’t change the outcome

Why this upsets you that someone points out that the games World vs World ranking system is nothing more then a ranking based on Population I don’t know..

I thought this was well known by now.

Why does changing the outcome even matter? You go up, you go down… You find fun fights either way you can still keep playing PvP and having fun.

Xsorus.2507:

Zephyrus.9680:

Xsorus.2507:

[…………..] But i can tell you that it would not have mattered if they had defended the map from you cause the match is already over.

Not to revive a dead horse but stop being so nihilistic… What I see from your argument repeating over and over on the last pages is “we won’t be #1, therefore kitten trying …”

First. I offer you a bottle of YOLO and welcome to our world. Every single match Mag is in now is already predetermined in terms of #1 and usually 2 and 3 but so what? It doesn’t mean no one is allowed * gasp * try.

You can play your way but everyone else will discuss the battles and tactics regardless of final ranks.

You’re welcome to try all you want

It still won’t change the outcome

Why this upsets you that someone points out that the games World vs World ranking system is nothing more then a ranking based on Population I don’t know..

I thought this was well known by now.

Nobody has denied that rankings is population, the overall outcome is determined by population and that’s why maguuma is winning. Killjoy was never talking about the whole matchup, merely a snippet where she and four others took the east side of SBI bl without resistance whilst SBI had 10-15 players punching at SW tower, she is merely confused as to why the SBI players concerned chose SW tower over the east side of the bl is all. As a side note I think you also misunderstood the /laugh point, from what I read it’s more the confusion that the SBI defenders when eventually reacting on inner garrison /laugh’d at the maguuman invaders, an act of superiority over them. But the defenders had just lost their whole east side to those 5 who they /laugh’d at, showing a complete lack of superiority. I take the original post as a little bit of a lesson to check for ninja with a chest thumping agenda, but you know all about ninjas though right? (loved those videos friendopal)