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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

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now that arrow carts nerfed to uselessness?

All is vain.

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Posted by: Liquid.9672

Liquid.9672

now that arrow carts nerfed to uselessness?

Uselessness? That’s quite a stretch don’t you think?

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Posted by: Tommyknocker.6089

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Still doing AC’s myself, what better way to watch the thieves that “tap” a tower for swords squirm when the veteran guards kick their kitten.

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Posted by: Meglobob.8620

Meglobob.8620

I think AC’s are still very, very good to OP…

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Posted by: RashanDale.3609

RashanDale.3609

Are you kittening serious?

“Arrow Cart Mastery skills have had their range reduced to be better in balance with other siege weapons.” =/= “Arrowcarts nerfed to uselessness”

reported for trolling…

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Posted by: Chris.3290

Chris.3290

I am glad that they are going to refund, I spent a few before the AC buff and I don’t find myself on siege much. Maybe I’ll just go all out guard killer and cap camps by myself.

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Posted by: Uttar.2341

Uttar.2341

It’s great they refunded, now I can spend all my points in AC instead, and get the awesome radius trait

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

Gwalchgwn.1659

now that arrow carts nerfed to uselessness?

Uselessness? That’s quite a stretch don’t you think?

“Reduced damage on skill #1 weapon X on class Y by 0.5%”
—> Nerfed to uselesness

There’s always someone who cries at the most ridiculous small nerf.

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Posted by: yanoch.7051

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After testing the range I decided I would keep AC mastery and get the last tier with the refund. The idea of that skill is great but 60 sec cooldown?!? Is it me or it is weak for something that cost 25 point?

There is very little info about it…

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

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I put everything into Burning Oil for lulz.

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Posted by: yanoch.7051

yanoch.7051

If you say the truth that would be amazing. You would have to upload a video on youtube and you would probably be the first.

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

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Still have to try it out, but what’s the point if you’re not having fun.

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Posted by: pixieish.9627

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I tossed all of my skill points back into the arrow cart mastery. Oh? What’s this? You can’t outrange ballistas anymore? Well boohoo! It’s still -the- defensive siege weapon, able to rain death on anyone that even thinks of ramming that gate, and its potential bag generating capacity is only outdone by a superior ballista inside Stonemist.

As for those NPC traits, I don’t really find myself trying to solo towers that often, so…

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Posted by: Khayoss.2019

Khayoss.2019

I still bought the 1st level of AC mastery. I re-invested the rest into extra supply though. I’ll go and get AC mastery again next. They aren’t useless by any stretch.

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Posted by: Ulion.5476

Ulion.5476

I still bought the 1st level of AC mastery. I re-invested the rest into extra supply though. I’ll go and get AC mastery again next. They aren’t useless by any stretch.

1 extra supply for 20wxp points is not worthwhile. That supply capicity should be the last thing you level 300wp for 5 extra supply.

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Posted by: rogerwilko.6895

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Since 95% of the players will chose AC mastery I think the point/reward system is crap.

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Posted by: salluks.6017

salluks.6017

Am saving for the treb mastery that will come in the next patch.
Then I can treb from Garrison to stonemist in EB.

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Posted by: Fuzzion.2504

Fuzzion.2504

I still have never bothered spending my rank points

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Posted by: Khayoss.2019

Khayoss.2019

I still bought the 1st level of AC mastery. I re-invested the rest into extra supply though. I’ll go and get AC mastery again next. They aren’t useless by any stretch.

1 extra supply for 20wxp points is not worthwhile. That supply capicity should be the last thing you level 300wp for 5 extra supply.

every 5 people carrying 12 supply = 1 extra person. Its 2 pieces of siege speed built instead of one. Cumulative value my friend. It all comes down to how you run your squad.

it also can save the day on build sites that get hit during construction. For precisely planned operations a 2 supply buffer could mean success or failure.

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Posted by: Contiguous.1345

Contiguous.1345

I’m still waiting for 0.005% increased damage against ‘blobs’. (Outnumbered 10:1 or more)

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Posted by: Shadow.3475

Shadow.3475

The cost for extra supply capicity is to high, would have prefered they dubble all other cost and lowered supply capicity cost to around what AC mastery would be after dubble, So 10-20-30-50-70.

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Posted by: Meglobob.8620

Meglobob.8620

Supply is very important in WvW but they have made it totally overpriced in relation to the other skill…

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Posted by: kingcragus.6810

kingcragus.6810

obv on defense against guards….100 vitality? yes please

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Posted by: zerospin.8604

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I picked defense against guards since i like to solo camps.

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Posted by: Caliban.3176

Caliban.3176

AC’s are still by far the best line.
Supply is good but too expensive.

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Posted by: sostronk.8167

sostronk.8167

As a solo roamer I am upgrading guard killer first. I’m up to the second last one (10% damage). After that, Ill probably opt to fully upgrade defence against guards. Undecided after that, they need to integrate more. Ill be keen to see what they add to the end of mercenarys bane.

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Posted by: Khayoss.2019

Khayoss.2019

I’m still waiting for 0.005% increased damage against ‘blobs’. (Outnumbered 10:1 or more)

Hmm. How about “Zerg Killer” each point spent in the tree allows 1 additional AoE target in any battle where the orange swords are present. Same price as the supply tree.

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Posted by: Caliban.3176

Caliban.3176

I’m still waiting for 0.005% increased damage against ‘blobs’. (Outnumbered 10:1 or more)

Hmm. How about “Zerg Killer” each point spent in the tree allows 1 additional AoE target in any battle where the orange swords are present. Same price as the supply tree.

You do know that that would work as counterproductive as what they tried with the AC’s. If everyone in a 25 or bigger zerg has that, than they just become better at killing again. Yet another reason to blob.

It was a funny suggestion though, if it were meant as a joke. I only commented on it because somebody needs to explain ANet that stuff like this doesn’t work or we’ll get another AC debacle, (that still hasn’t been fixed yet).

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Posted by: I Deschain I.4623

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obv on defense against guards….100 vitality? yes please

The tool tip says it’s even 50 per stack. Not sure what’s right and what’s wrong… spend my points there anyway. And siege bunker of course.

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Posted by: ahn.9271

ahn.9271

everyone i know is putting their points back in the exact same way they had them. AC are still FTW.

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Posted by: Jeda.5209

Jeda.5209

obv on defense against guards….100 vitality? yes please

The tool tip says it’s even 50 per stack. Not sure what’s right and what’s wrong… spend my points there anyway. And siege bunker of course.

It was change from 25 Vitality per stack to 50. So I would think its 250 + Vit with all 5 stacks.

I was maxed in arrow cart b4 patch and had supply up to +2, but with reset I decided to just take up to the radius in AC and go with the defense guards. Love the 10s retal buff already when it activated on fighting guards and was fighting some players in the camp as well. Just need few more levels to max it out and get the vitality stacks.

The arrow cart final buff was ok but with a 60s cooldown and only 8 sec reveal on stealth didn’t find a whole lot of benefit from it prior to the patch, so although it is still good I decided to spend the extra 25 points towards maxing defense guards this time.

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Posted by: kingcragus.6810

kingcragus.6810

obv on defense against guards….100 vitality? yes please

The tool tip says it’s even 50 per stack. Not sure what’s right and what’s wrong… spend my points there anyway. And siege bunker of course.

Did this used to say 20 in tooltip? But just checked that and it is 50 per stack for max 5 stacks…250 vitality? YES PLEASE

I would like to see if the expand on the siege bunker line. Maybe something to reduce the conditions that siege does. For example chill of cannons etc…

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Posted by: Johje Holan.4607

Johje Holan.4607

After testing the range I decided I would keep AC mastery and get the last tier with the refund. The idea of that skill is great but 60 sec cooldown?!? Is it me or it is weak for something that cost 25 point?

There is very little info about it…

What has a 60 sec cooldown? That may make the difference in my choice. Heck in 60 sec the golems might be through the gate lol.

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Posted by: Liquid.9672

Liquid.9672

obv on defense against guards….100 vitality? yes please

The tool tip says it’s even 50 per stack. Not sure what’s right and what’s wrong… spend my points there anyway. And siege bunker of course.

Did this used to say 20 in tooltip? But just checked that and it is 50 per stack for max 5 stacks…250 vitality? YES PLEASE

I would like to see if the expand on the siege bunker line. Maybe something to reduce the conditions that siege does. For example chill of cannons etc…

It changed from 20 per stack to 50 per stack in yesterday’s patch. No mention in the patch notes. Intended? Maybe. It’s not like 100 world rank levels is nothing, and 250 Vit is not necessarily OP, particularly when you lose the stacks upon death. Plus everyone has access to it.

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Posted by: Jeda.5209

Jeda.5209

After testing the range I decided I would keep AC mastery and get the last tier with the refund. The idea of that skill is great but 60 sec cooldown?!? Is it me or it is weak for something that cost 25 point?

There is very little info about it…

What has a 60 sec cooldown? That may make the difference in my choice. Heck in 60 sec the golems might be through the gate lol.

The final skill for AC mastery is a 60 sec cooldown. The one that unstealths anybody and makes them not able to restealth for a whopping 8 secs.

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Posted by: Caliban.3176

Caliban.3176

After testing the range I decided I would keep AC mastery and get the last tier with the refund. The idea of that skill is great but 60 sec cooldown?!? Is it me or it is weak for something that cost 25 point?

There is very little info about it…

What has a 60 sec cooldown? That may make the difference in my choice. Heck in 60 sec the golems might be through the gate lol.

The final skill for AC mastery is a 60 sec cooldown. The one that unstealths anybody and makes them not able to restealth for a whopping 8 secs.

The stealth doesn’t matter, it’s the poison that is the real killer, even on a 60s cooldown that is pretty strong.

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Posted by: Jeda.5209

Jeda.5209

After testing the range I decided I would keep AC mastery and get the last tier with the refund. The idea of that skill is great but 60 sec cooldown?!? Is it me or it is weak for something that cost 25 point?

There is very little info about it…

What has a 60 sec cooldown? That may make the difference in my choice. Heck in 60 sec the golems might be through the gate lol.

The final skill for AC mastery is a 60 sec cooldown. The one that unstealths anybody and makes them not able to restealth for a whopping 8 secs.

The stealth doesn’t matter, it’s the poison that is the real killer, even on a 60s cooldown that is pretty strong.

Maybe, didn’t really notice. Then again the times I used it most of the time I was behind the door. Didn’t really see much damage other than from the 1-3 skills. Maybe I was missing when I used it prior to patch? Dunno

But yea for the 25 extra points I just rather put it into Defense Guards, since it makes me very close to maxing that for the vitality stacks. I’ll probably get the final AC afterwards again. Just wasn’t overly thrilled with it when I had it last time.

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Posted by: fishergrip.4082

fishergrip.4082

If it actually does give 5 stacks of 50 vit for +2500 HP it is extremely overpowered. WvW bonuses should not give stat boosts.

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Posted by: style.6173

style.6173

now that arrow carts nerfed to uselessness?

Lol. This made me laugh. Don’t worry, the game mode is still ACvAC.

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Posted by: VOLKON.1290

VOLKON.1290

To think of all those points I had in arrow cart level 3 plus other places. Thank the gods for the reset!

Now I have arrow carts to level 4.

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Posted by: Visiroth.5914

Visiroth.5914

After testing the range I decided I would keep AC mastery and get the last tier with the refund. The idea of that skill is great but 60 sec cooldown?!? Is it me or it is weak for something that cost 25 point?

There is very little info about it…

What has a 60 sec cooldown? That may make the difference in my choice. Heck in 60 sec the golems might be through the gate lol.

The final skill for AC mastery is a 60 sec cooldown. The one that unstealths anybody and makes them not able to restealth for a whopping 8 secs.

How long is the poison duration of the final skill for AC mastery?

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Posted by: stinkypants.8419

stinkypants.8419

And does Lotus Poison proc for thieves?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Lotus_Poison

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Posted by: Caliban.3176

Caliban.3176

And does Lotus Poison proc for thieves?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Lotus_Poison

Nope, not anymore. Traits no longer proc on siege. Lotus poison used to work on trebs like leg specialist did on AC’s.

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Posted by: Elwin.2583

Elwin.2583

I was so happy i could finaly reeset mny traits so i could spec.. inAC lolz. Ballista 3 and higher are just plain useless.

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