Guild Wars 2

Alright, soooo……
This raw data represents pages 1-4 only. I plan on continuing but this is time consuming so I’m breaking until laterish. I wanted to get this post up so no one will try and do the same thing which would equal a lot of wasted time for one of us. I will improve on the details. I combined some categories that were replicative or very nearly so. I omitted vague/ absurd/ text walls/ lists that went over 5 things. I plan on listing the categories in descending order (biggest to smallest), and grouping opposites below eachother (gliding/ no gliding). I started adding quotes halfway through page 4, for suggestions that were too lengthy to add to the list or ideas that expanded on existing suggestions in a detailed and thoughtful way.
Yeah.

autoloot/ new masteries 13

population balance/ alliances, merge
servers, dynamic map capacity 56
no alliance/ server merge, more pop caps,
free transfer to low pop servers, reduced
cost to higher 4

cc reduction/ stability buff 41

bring back alpine maps untouched 37

tone down/ remove pve content, guild gimmicks,
banners, lava, tactivators, laser,
airships on smc, chilling fog, stealth
fountain 36

reduce lag, bugs, glitches, hackers,
active gms, qol changes, fix terrain issues
and skills with poor terrain pathing,
improved collision scripting to prevent splash
damage from siege and skills, equipment templates
like gw1 15

Korgov.7645:

no gliding 6
gliding 2

more rewards/ reward track like pvp/
wvw currency buys pve stuff, wvw siege/ gear
skins for gems, wvw only legendary armor 45

separate/ improved profession balance
for wvw/ tone down elite specs, give melee
buffs vs ranged, remove 1 shots, equipment
system like pvp 25

reduce ppt/nightcap, improve ppk, change/
improve scoring system, points per capture,
divide maps into territories that can be
captured and contribute to score 33

Arricson Krei.9560:

Brown Fang Thump.9482:

reduce guild upgrade cost/ pre hot costs,
more guild rewards, +5 supply back,
reduce scribe costs 17

reward non essential tasks/ roaming groups,
scouting, dolyak escorting 9

buff defense on walls/ in siege, buff
outnumbered buff, buff camps/dolyaks 8

make desert maps smaller/less verticality,
remove gimmicks, smaller keeps,
quicker maneuverability, air+fire get
wps 30

Link.1049:

rotate the bl’s weekly, add eotm to
rotation 16
shut down eotm 4

waypoints for fully upgraded keep
/old waypoint system/ waypoints flip
with structure 9

wvw self sustained/ gathering, gear,
food, guild upgrades 15

dead must wp 2
old rally system 1

dont autorepair or upgrade, make defending
an active process of balancing supplies and
forces 7

improved commander capability/ rewards 6

more anti zerg mechanics for open
field fights/ aoe cap, zerg debuffs,
mechanics that encourage fun fights,
reduce boon spam 13

communicate to players/ sync desires to
development, stop relying on false metrics,
expand on forum specialist 15

no open field siege/ stronger structures,
less siege per tower/keep, nerf trebs,
condi/power stat doesnt scale with siege,
can crit siege 10

improved gvg arena/ add spectator option 2

fix keep/ tower lord scaling 5

a wvw spec for large amounts of wxp, wvw
special abilities 3

more incentives to contribute to server,
tournaments that happen more often, rank
specific server rewards independent of tier 19

make proof of heroics account bound 5

wvw rank display system 2

enhanced ui for team up/ to stay organized,
server wide chat channel, lfg gvg section 3

new map with strategic layout, wvw maps
designed for pvp, destructable environments 7

allow fun stuff like transform potion,
firework, broom 1

teach new players how wvw and game mechanics
work 1

buff ai for ogres, dredge and allow them to
take any undefended structure, they increase
in numbers as they take structures 1

pvp like queue that balances players according
to skill 1

impactful gfx like rain, snow, wind 1

PS- title should be consolidata?
This is not a thread to list your top 5 wvw priorities
ugh the grind

That data is going to be hard to keep track of, especially since many bullet points are entwined with other bullet points. Let me know if you need any Advil!

Agreed. Data should be plotted in some sort of visual format that is easily digested. Perhaps a pareto or histogram would work?

It would probably be informative to set up some kind of a poll/vote (regulated by account log in) where the suggestions in the other thread are listed, and people get 5 votes each.

The other thread is just getting unwieldy and repetitive. The purpose gets lost in all the chinwagging… xD

God please fix stability so I can play my warrior again.

great thread, although I would like to add one thing – when I was thinking about what I would change and posted it on forums I did not consider some things… what I mean is that this thread here showed me that other people have good ideas as well, ideas which I never imagined, so what I would suggest is use all the suggestions already mentioned in this thread and allow people to vote on them, that would be the best way to show what people want/like to be changed… i.e. ‘buff stability – yes/no’ …that way we could tell what proportion of community wants certain change to take place…

Two guys, same idea…
Around the first half of the first page here a bit more detailed and with references here: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/User:Soulblydd/Ruins/Wishes (will try to update a bit further, but as OP said, its tiring)

Also in case anyone is wondering, this is the thread we are talking about: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Your-top-5-priorities-for-WvW-Overhaul

well that thread where Gaile posted is a good thread, no doubt about it, but who wants to scroll through 5 pages of ideas? this thread is great cuz its summarizing stuff from the other thread… this thread is the second step in what I think should be done, i.e. =>
1. collect ideas (thread where Gaile posted several posts)
2. summary (this thread)
3. vote or data evaluation = to see what folks want the most, and also to point out controversial topics

Peterson.8345:

well that thread where Gaile posted is a good thread, no doubt about it, but who wants to scroll through 5 pages of ideas? this thread is great cuz its summarizing stuff from the other thread… this thread is the second step in what I think should be done, i.e. =>
1. collect ideas (thread where Gaile posted several posts)
2. summary (this thread)
3. vote or data evaluation = to see what folks want the most, and also to point out controversial topics

Yes and Stand The Wall did a great job on his own time.
2 things need to happen next before we progress to the next step.
1: 2 way communication. Make sure we’re not talking to ourselves again.
2: Take the top 5 subjects individually and discuss them. How you would like to see each changed and implemented. This is where we need the communication from Gaile or the Devs to let us know what is and what is not doable.

Thanks for breaking this down!

Loosmaster.8263:

… we need the communication from Gaile or the Devs to let us know what is and what is not doable.

THIS

Because it causes me physical pain to look at the formatting in the OP.

16: Cc reduction/ stability buff
14: Bring back alpine maps untouched
12: Population balance/ alliances
12: More rewards/ reward track like pvp/wvw currency buys pve stuff
10: Tone down pve content/ banners, lava,tactivators, laser, airships on smc
9:   Autoloot/ new masteries
9:   Merge servers
9:   Reduce ppt/nightcap
8:   Rotate dbl/ abl/ eotm weekly
7:   Make desert maps smaller/less verticality/remove gimmicks/smaller keeps
6:   Less siege/ nerf trebs
6:   Separate profession balance for wvw
5:   Reduce lag, bugs, glitches, hackers
5:   Reduce guild bonus cost/ pre hot rewards
5:   Scouting, dolyaks, mesmer sweeps
5:   Waypoints for fully upgraded keep/old waypoint system/ waypoints flip with structure
5:   WvW self sustained/ gathering, gear, food
4:   No gliding 
4:   WvW maps designed for pvp/ fun fights 
4:   Buff defense on walls/buff outnumbered
4:   Change scoring system
3:   Communicate players desires
3:   Dynamic map capacity
2:   Dead must wp
2:   Make all structures t3/ dont autorepair
2:   Improved commander capability
2:   Fix keep/tower lord scaling 
1:   Gliding
1:   Improve ppk
1:   Reward non essential tasks/ smaller groups,buff camps/dolyaks 
1:   Make player stronger in siege
1:   More anti zerg mechanics
1:   No alliance/ server merge
1:   No open field siege/ stronger structures/improved gvg arena/add spectator option

This looks like a complete list to me. Since forum posts are so much noise to anet, have you considered creating a survey like with survey monkey to allow players to rank their priorities. Rule #1 of collecting customer feedback is that only the most happy or angry customers actually take the time to voice their concerns. I’m really curious what the silent 95% think.

It is funny the OP requests people NOT to post their priorities here so the thread doesn’t get merged, yet they post their priorities here. LOL

lil devils x.6071:

It is funny the OP requests people NOT to post their priorities here so the thread doesn’t get merged, yet they post their priorities here. LOL

It’s a consolidation from another thread that shows the order of priority count.

Loosmaster.8263:

lil devils x.6071:

It is funny the OP requests people NOT to post their priorities here so the thread doesn’t get merged, yet they post their priorities here. LOL

It’s a consolidation from another thread that shows the order of priority count.

I know what it is, it appears those posting their priorities do not, and did not read the OP. XD

PS- title should be consolidata?
This is not a thread to list your priorities

Osu.6307:

This looks like a complete list to me. Since forum posts are so much noise to anet, have you considered creating a survey like with survey monkey to allow players to rank their priorities. Rule #1 of collecting customer feedback is that only the most happy or angry customers actually take the time to voice their concerns. I’m really curious what the silent 95% think.

The problem with that is you have to guess virtually every possible option people might want in order to get a comprehensive result.

Data should be entered in a spreadsheet and sorted, most votes first, as this makes it easier to see which are the most favoured options

Peterson.8345:

3. vote or data evaluation = to see what folks want the most, and also to point out controversial topics

While I agree with the general surmise of your post, I have to comment on this.

Computer games are art, thus they belong to the field of arts and sciences where there is objective truth. Voting and popular demand has been popular in the industry in recent years. It has been good for business but very bad for games as products (quality/legacy).

Point three should be data evaluation: discourse, qualitative analysis within the community and where professionalism comes in from the developer’s side in terms of communication, elaboration with attention to implementation and executive choices.

It’s going to be quite difficult to pin-point the major top priorities player’s want because as someone else already mentioned – those priorities leak into other ones of similar value. I know some of my own ones I listed in there listed as “Population Balance” but branched out to related balance such as class balance, incentive to have players around the globe active etc.

Good start on keeping track of things, though, and good luck.

grifflyman.8102:

God please fix stability so I can play my warrior again.

Gunflame warrior = OP. I mean 35K damage that can’t be blocked?

Peterson.8345:

Computer games are art

we are here cuz theyre business

I’m still hoping for an official response. Otherwise we’ve been baited again. My cut off time is Thursday when I make a decision to move on to something else.

Great work @Stand The Wall & Arcan Soulstorm.

Some visuals would be pleasing, but really nice initiative!

@Loosmaster; don’t get your hopes up too much.

I see one babystep in the right direction atm:
- they plan to revert reset time
- Gaile likes our thread

But it will take a lot more, as you and Peterson have said.

(This is your chance, ArenaNet, take it or leave it.)

Some ideas from my side: the forums are in general not that easy to oversee, like it’s not the best to filter out primary postings and reactions or off-topic posts.

ArenaNet could launch some new platforms on forums and in-game for doing stuff like voting, sending your basic concerns in etc.

Arcan Soulstorm.4356:

Two guys, same idea…
Around the first half of the first page here a bit more detailed and with references here: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/User:Soulblydd/Ruins/Wishes (will try to update a bit further, but as OP said, its tiring)

hey thats great, if you decide to keep that up let me know, cuz if you want ill add a link in my OP so people have a better chance at seeing it.

What about the thread in my signature below with taking the old maps back? its 180 + signs there now.

seabhac.5346:

Agreed. Data should be plotted in some sort of visual format that is easily digested. Perhaps a pareto or histogram would work?

feel free to do that, no one is stopping you. i however, am not being payed, and i am not going to spend any more time then is necessary to get this data out there.

erKo.9586:

What about the thread in my signature below with taking the old maps back? its 180 + signs there now.

congratulations. what about it? said suggestions to bring alpine back are being listed just like anyone else. im not going to add anything from outside threads, if you feel thats wrong, well too bad. if i did it for you then everyone would start complaining and i dont have the time or energy to please every self anointed dev.

Sirendor.1394:

Some ideas from my side: the forums are in general not that easy to oversee, like it’s not the best to filter out primary postings and reactions or off-topic posts.

im not quite sure what you mean, but if youre responding to my statement that im not adding certain things to the list, then im sorry you disagree. posts that ramble on for several sentences without getting to anything specific will not be added. im not going to spend anymore time then is necessary to decipher ambiguous posts. im also not adding reactionary posts like someone was trying to tell anet how to spend their time and money.

I mean that its not just that list that is the complete list over people who want the old maps back. Tho I dont know how many of the people who signed my thread want the old maps back without any changes etc.

I just want Anet to know that there are ALOT more that want the old maps back than in your list.

ok right on, but im sure they know. there has certainly been enough noise made about it, your advertisement post here notwithstanding.

Stand The Wall.6987:

ok right on, but im sure they know. there has certainly been enough noise made about it, your advertisement post here notwithstanding.

It isn’t included in the numbers being posted by the developers IS whey it is being mentioned. It should be #1 by far when you look at the number of players in that thread. Some have left until they fix it and will not be here to repeat themselves.

Mike O Brien.4613:

Hi all,

This is a great thread. It’s constructive. We’re all reading it and referring to it in team discussions.

As we said in the AMA, our top internal priorities have been population balance and rewards. From this thread, your top five priorities are, in order:
1. Stability & skill balance
2. Fix or revert DBL
3. Rewards
4. Population balance
5. Scoring

Yes, we will take the feedback and make stability, general skill balance, and fixing/reverting DBL our top priorities. We’re not currently working on scoring and that has to be a longer-term project.

Karl is working specifically on WvW-focused skill balance. He’s looking for the wins for WvW that don’t screw the rest of the game.

We’re investigating whether to fix or revert DBL. They’re both a lot of work. These next couple days will be your last chance to give feedback before we make a decision, so speak now or forever hold your peace.

I want to reiterate that everything we work on either ships in April or starts beta-testing on Live servers in April. We’re locking down dev work for the April release soon — next up is localization, QA, integration and regression testing — but we’ll extend the deadline for WvW skill balance.

There is one thing that doesn’t need to get wrapped up into the April release: Friday night resets. That doesn’t require a Live build. We’ll do it.

Mo

alright, mike has the data. im done.
cheers~