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Posted by: xDudisx.5914

xDudisx.5914

If we can see their name in spvp is there any good reason for not do the same in wvw? You can still send a whisper blocking and getting their name anyway. It feels more like pvp fighting someone you can recognize by the name, not just a faceless enemy. Pretty much almost all the games let you see the enemy name in pvp I dont see what is the point of hiding the enemy name.

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Posted by: johnpoc.8732

johnpoc.8732

Much more bullying in WvW, I guess if they could see your name then they wouldn’t have to take the trouble to block + remind name + unblock + whisper and thus would lead to more ragging

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

Partly to make it harder for trolls to single out targets for abuse, and perhaps also partly to make it harder for groups to identify the enemy Commander and take him out so as to deprive the enemy zerg of leadership.

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Posted by: CrimsonNeonite.1048

CrimsonNeonite.1048

Abuse, trolling, bad sportmanship and all that, it happens enough in WvW even through blocked whisper lists.

I just hopped into pvp match just now and the qq was pretty bad itself. -.-

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Posted by: xDudisx.5914

xDudisx.5914

Well then why is it enable in spvp? and in e-sports? and like every other mmo? If someone is trolling you you can just block him lol.

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Posted by: Topaz.4291

Topaz.4291

I find this so cool because like the whole mindset it gives is “hordes of faceless and nameless enemies”. Also, just seeing their rank helps to identify which server they are, and fast. Overall, I would never want this feature changed

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

I think it’s very much to prevent singling out commanders and what not. I mean it’s not that hard to find the commander but it still takes some awareness that wouldn’t be required if it just was “look for the name, everyone get the target, when they go in, everyone bomb him”. You have to wait for them to initially engage and see the front runner and assume it’s the commander. Then they veil and you have to do it again unless you remember his title and character look and can distinguish him quickly after the veil.

That is, I think it’s the purpose it serves, might not be the initial idea behind it though.

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Posted by: storiessave.3807

storiessave.3807

If you went up against any enemy zergs with devs in them in the recent “adopt a dev” thing, you probably noticed how it’s extremely tempting to focus that dev tag (and, at least on my server, there have been several occasions where we engaged an enemy zerg for the sole purpose of stomping a dev tag).

I assume it’s to prevent enemy commanders from being so easily spotted. We have to know what they look like, their guild tag, and rank in order to spot them, and that’s not always easy in the middle of a fight. If you could see names, it would be ridiculously easy to focus them. It happens a fair bit right now, but it would be so much worse if we could just hone in toward a name.

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

Imagine the commander has to go through hundreds of harassment whispers from a dozen of nameless people during the fight. Being a commander, they have to keep their channel open for scout reports, etc., so it wouldn’t be wise to stay invisible to have a peace of their mind.

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Posted by: xDudisx.5914

xDudisx.5914

The enemy seen the commander would actually bring more strategy to the fights. In the mid of a stacked hammer train it would still be hard to notice him by the name anyway. Maybe disable intraserver whispers when inside a wvw map could solve the trolling problem and let us see the enemy name. It would make the game more competitive, player can build a good or bad reputation.

Ouroboro Knight’s [OK]

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

Actually, Iris probably has the answer right there. “Hey, so-and-so is their Commander! Everybody spam them non-stop with useless messages to try and annoy them enough so they’ll quit the battlefield!”

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

It actually had happened to Jang Gun during the prime time of War Machine. Poor guy, I feel bad thinking about it >.<

Also, I play in a sniping team and have no trouble spotting and taking a commander down. So I don’t see the issue with seeing the enemy’s name here.

Plus, good commanders are already recognized across the servers without the necessity of name-calling in game.

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

- doranduck, 2016 on Lore in Raids

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

Straegen.2938

If you could see the PMs I get after enemies attempt to join my party you would know exactly why we cannot have nice things like this.

The last one was from a player in the PRAE guild. After killing a thief and necro in hylek, this guy shows up and we proceeded to have a nice little fight with my test build. I couldn’t kill him and he couldn’t kill me… that is until two more of his friends show up. I put one down, nearly kill the other before they kill me. This guy attempts to join my party, gets my name and starts trash talking. Five minutes later I run into him with his friends and peel him like a banana. He then starts the trash talking again. As per my usual reaction, I do not reply and now hunt their guild without mercy.

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Posted by: xDudisx.5914

xDudisx.5914

If you could see the PMs I get after enemies attempt to join my party you would know exactly why we cannot have nice things like this.

The last one was from a player in the PRAE guild. After killing a thief and necro in hylek, this guy shows up and we proceeded to have a nice little fight with my test build. I couldn’t kill him and he couldn’t kill me… that is until two more of his friends show up. I put one down, nearly kill the other before they kill me. This guy attempts to join my party, gets my name and starts trash talking. Five minutes later I run into him with his friends and peel him like a banana. He then starts the trash talking again. As per my usual reaction, I do not reply and now hunt their guild without mercy.

So the current system fails to prevent the communication between the 2 servers because they can get your name via party invite or block list. Wouldn’t it be better to officially implement it anyway?

About spam the cmd with whispers: the commander probably is giving the orders on TS and has 1 or more players to type stuff for him on map chat. He also can just disable whispers at one chat tab and just read map/team/normal chat.

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Posted by: SilverWF.4789

SilverWF.4789

Agree with author!
I want to see real names in the WvW! I want everyone around would see my real name in the WvW!

#SAVEDONBASS from Ukraine!
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Posted by: euro.5164

euro.5164

Agree with author!
I want to see real names in the WvW! I want everyone around would see my real name in the WvW!

No thanks, i don’t want to see your ‘real’ name. I see an enemy (aka. you) passing by, i kill the enemy (aka. you) and i keep walking. No need to see your name.

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Posted by: Fuzzion.2504

Fuzzion.2504

Well then why is it enable in spvp? and in e-sports? and like every other mmo? If someone is trolling you you can just block him lol.

Because WvWvW is serious business. sPvP is for fun.

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Posted by: SilverWF.4789

SilverWF.4789

So, when the real necknames will be avialible in the WvW?

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

So, when the real necknames will be avialible in the WvW?

They won’t

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Posted by: Kanebrake.6192

Kanebrake.6192

Because people would say “mean” things to other people if they knew their ingame names.

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Posted by: Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Sirbeaumerdier.3740

If we can see their name in spvp is there any good reason for not do the same in wvw? You can still send a whisper blocking and getting their name anyway. It feels more like pvp fighting someone you can recognize by the name, not just a faceless enemy. Pretty much almost all the games let you see the enemy name in pvp I dont see what is the point of hiding the enemy name.

Because we don’t have enough adult players and I don’t mean the age?

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Posted by: Sreoom.3690

Sreoom.3690

In GW1 knowing your enemy’s name was half the fun….I made some great friends chatting with Luxons when I played Kurzick…and vice versa.

People need to get a thicker skin…someone PM’s you and says mean things…then block them. Easy peasy.

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Posted by: Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Sirbeaumerdier.3740

In GW1 knowing your enemy’s name was half the fun….I made some great friends chatting with Luxons when I played Kurzick…and vice versa.

People need to get a thicker skin…someone PM’s you and says mean things…then block them. Easy peasy.

True ppl need thicker skins but, more importantly, they need to grow up.

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

SpellOfIniquity.1780

I don’t get why you can talk to your opponents in PvP in the first place… It makes sense to me that you can’t see your opponents names in WvW because of the reasons others have listed above. Trolling and the like. PvP is just as bad if not worse than WvW in terms of toxicity so I seriously will never understand why we can talk with our enemies in it or why we can even see their names. I’m guilty of having a short temper and I’m not ashamed to admit it because we all get frustrated from time to time. I have only myself to blame for the things I’ve said but it would make life easier if I couldn’t so freely say those things to my opponents..

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Posted by: style.6173

style.6173

No thanks. I don’t need to see enemy names.