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Anyone have a guess at the dyes the asura has on the rascal coat

KarateKid.5648:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/s2/What-is-that-Vine-doing-to-the-WP/4174935

Just sayin…

Indeed. I can see it now:

• Vines spread via waypoint system
• Waypoint system gets taken offline (permanently?) to stop the spread of the vines
• Players must travel everywhere by foot

• New convenience only Gem Store item!
  • Mobile Waypoint Device! 1,000 gems (costs 10 silver per use)
• New cosmetic only Gem Store items!
  • New Mount Designs!
    “Why travel on foot when you can traverse the landscapes in style on your own personal llama, bicycle or wheeled cart?!”
    - Same functionality as the Enchanted Broom and Sonic Tunneling Tool – does not provide any movement speed bonuses.

StinVec.3621:

KarateKid.5648:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/s2/What-is-that-Vine-doing-to-the-WP/4174935

Just sayin…

Indeed. I can see it now:

• Vines spread via waypoint system
• Waypoint system gets taken offline (permanently?) to stop the spread of the vines
• Players must travel everywhere by foot

• New convenience only Gem Store item!
  • Mobile Waypoint Device! 1,000 gems (costs 10 silver per use)
• New cosmetic only Gem Store items!
  • New Mount Designs!
    “Why travel on foot when you can traverse the landscapes in style on your own personal llama, bicycle or wheeled cart?!”
    - Same functionality as the Witch’s Broom and Sonic Tunneling Tool – does not provide any movement speed bonuses.

(I know this is a joke but…)
I’d almost definitely leave the game if they removed the waypoints. Its one of the main reasons why I prefer the GW series of other MMOs. Soo much wasted time while running to places.

skullmount.1758:

StinVec.3621:

KarateKid.5648:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/s2/What-is-that-Vine-doing-to-the-WP/4174935

Just sayin…

Indeed. I can see it now:

• Vines spread via waypoint system
• Waypoint system gets taken offline (permanently?) to stop the spread of the vines
• Players must travel everywhere by foot

• New convenience only Gem Store item!
  • Mobile Waypoint Device! 1,000 gems (costs 10 silver per use)
• New cosmetic only Gem Store items!
  • New Mount Designs!
    “Why travel on foot when you can traverse the landscapes in style on your own personal llama, bicycle or wheeled cart?!”
    - Same functionality as the Witch’s Broom and Sonic Tunneling Tool – does not provide any movement speed bonuses.

(I know this is a joke but…)
I’d almost definitely leave the game if they removed the waypoints. Its one of the main reasons why I prefer the GW series of other MMOs. Soo much wasted time while running to places.

Is it a joke?
- At first glance it is a little humorous and you start to chuckle at the absurdity of it.
- Then it really starts to sink in as you visualize it and you start to think…
- “Nah, They wouldn’t do that…would they?”
- Then it hits you that it really isn’t that funny.
- And as your chuckle begins to trail off, you realize that you can actually see this happening.
- Then you find yourself staring at your screen with a single thought pounding in your mind…
- “They might actually do this…”

…

That trailer looks promising. But I’m not getting any hopes up, I mean it wouldn’t be the first time we got a great trailer followed by a somewhat disappointing release.

StinVec.3621:

<snip>

Is it a joke?
- At first glance it is a little humorous and you start to chuckle at the absurdity of it.
- Then it really starts to sink in as you visualize it and you start to think…
- “Nah, They wouldn’t do that…would they?”
- Then it hits you that it really isn’t that funny.
- And as your chuckle begins to trail off, you realize that you can actually see this happening.
- Then you find yourself staring at your screen with a single thought pounding in your mind…
- “They might actually do this…”

…

No, the asure will probably discover a ‘fix’ so that the waypoints can’t be used by the vines anymore. Anet will probable require you to go each seperate waypoint and interact with it to fix it. After your finished fixing the last waypoint Trahearne shows up and take credit for fixing all the waypoints . :/

Seriously, Trahearnes life mission was to purify Orr, if he even dares to show up anywhere or doing anything else, then lets just say that The next story part will involve me as the villain XD

NathanH.1465:

That trailer looks promising. But I’m not getting any hopes up, I mean it wouldn’t be the first time we got a great trailer followed by a somewhat disappointing release.

StinVec.3621:

<snip>

Is it a joke?
- At first glance it is a little humorous and you start to chuckle at the absurdity of it.
- Then it really starts to sink in as you visualize it and you start to think…
- “Nah, They wouldn’t do that…would they?”
- Then it hits you that it really isn’t that funny.
- And as your chuckle begins to trail off, you realize that you can actually see this happening.
- Then you find yourself staring at your screen with a single thought pounding in your mind…
- “They might actually do this…”

…

No, the asure will probably discover a ‘fix’ so that the waypoints can’t be used by the vines anymore. Anet will probable require you to go each seperate waypoint and interact with it to fix it. After your finished fixing the last waypoint Trahearne shows up and take credit for fixing all the waypoints . :/

Seriously, Trahearnes life mission was to purify Orr, if he even dares to step one foot outside of Orr, then lets just say that The next story part will involve me as the villain XD

I was reading your reply with the serious kind of speculation it started out with, and I was like “yeah, well, maybe they will do somethi…” – then you smacked me in the head with a big plate of Trahearne out of nowhere and I burst out laughing!

Good post, Nathan, very good post. Thank you, I really needed that.

Kalavier.1097:

Note how there is vines entangling around a vigil/pact outpost in a green, grassy area.

An area like that isn’t that close to drytop at all…

Ley lines.

If you watched the new entangled trailer you will see the vines are spreading throughout to other areas. Also now in the game the vines are touching the WP at the entrance of Dry Top. Whoever, or whatever is going to use the Waypoint System to spread out to other areas. That is why you see the same Giant from the town of Town of Nageling http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Champion_Giant in the recent trailer in Dry Top. Perhaps the vines are grabbing creatures from other areas and WP them to Dry Top.

I think the giants simply look like that. Not that it is the same giant.
It is rather common for different entities of the same type creature to look about the same.

Kalavier.1097:

And also yes. That is DEFINITELY the concordia camp in Timberline falls.

I tried to find the position where they positioned the camera… i attached a little screenshot (left=trailer, right=my version). No doubt -> its Concordia.

StinVec.3621:

• New convenience only Gem Store item!
  • Mobile Waypoint Device! 1,000 gems (costs 10 silver per use)

Funny/Scary thing is… a device like this is mentioned in game (in scarletts room if i remember correctly)

Interesting the picture on the left doesn’t have a WP visible but in the screenshot you just taken from the game as it is now, there is one. I really think they going to use WP system to spread.

Tiscan.8345:

Funny/Scary thing is… a device like this is mentioned in game (in scarletts room if i remember correctly)

It was also used in the Edge of Destiny book.

On the left picture it looks like the WP is busted on the ground.

Don’t forget that there is another waypoint just across the river… i always wondered why ANet put two waypoints so close to each other. Gyre Rapids Waypoint is more or less just a stone’s throw from Concordia Waypoint. Probably they already knew at release that they’ll destroy the Concordia Waypoint later.

And btw. the Concordia Waypoint is not flickering like those in Brisban.

Tiscan.8345:

And btw. the Concordia Waypoint is not flickering like those in Brisban.

Perhaps only the ones that are being used to help the vines travel at the moment are the ones that are flickering. The vines are draining the power from them (or the ley line) to help them grove/move across the land.

I find it hard to swallow that Mordi’s vines have spread that far. I mean under seas and mountains. And given the fact that the dragons oppose each other so I also find it hard to believe they would travel that far and not get attacked by Prim or bubbles. Also if they are moving that far that means the very ground is corrupted. And even if we kill Mordi, zhitan’s corruption is showing no signs of deminishing, the ground will remain corrupted for a long time.

I just find it a bit much, even with sespenshion of disbelief. It just dose not make any logical sence to me from how I understand they way the world of Tyria works.

BrotherBelial.3094:

I find it hard to swallow that Mordi’s vines have spread that far. I mean under seas and mountains. And given the fact that the dragons oppose each other so I also find it hard to believe they would travel that far and not get attacked by Prim or bubbles. Also if they are moving that far that means the very ground is corrupted. And even if we kill Mordi, zhitan’s corruption is showing no signs of deminishing, the ground will remain corrupted for a long time.

I just find it a bit much, even with sespenshion of disbelief. It just dose not make any logical sence to me from how I understand they way the world of Tyria works.

We know that Mordy have knowledge of how WPs work due to Scarlets research. We know that multiple WPs have been attacked by the wines.

How is it so hard to connect those two dots and assume that it is using the WPs to travel?

Tiscan.8345:

Funny/Scary thing is… a device like this is mentioned in game (in scarletts room if i remember correctly)

That’s because that’s how she was dispatching Aetherblade units on Lion’s Arch.

Oooooh, new pictures on the tumbler: http://guildwars2.tumblr.com/post/91269491739

So something more with the Steam creatures, and more jumping/height stuff (and what looks like a whole/undamaged zephyr ship).

lordkrall.7241:

BrotherBelial.3094:

I find it hard to swallow that Mordi’s vines have spread that far. I mean under seas and mountains. And given the fact that the dragons oppose each other so I also find it hard to believe they would travel that far and not get attacked by Prim or bubbles. Also if they are moving that far that means the very ground is corrupted. And even if we kill Mordi, zhitan’s corruption is showing no signs of deminishing, the ground will remain corrupted for a long time.

I just find it a bit much, even with sespenshion of disbelief. It just dose not make any logical sence to me from how I understand they way the world of Tyria works.

We know that Mordy have knowledge of how WPs work due to Scarlets research. We know that multiple WPs have been attacked by the wines.

How is it so hard to connect those two dots and assume that it is using the WPs to travel?

TL;DR way pointing tendrils sounds like a very bad B movie.

Very hard. The thought of a disjointed plant tendrel traveling via way point across Tyria is just farsical. It would be like a plant of a pilot jumping on a jumbo jet and try’s to fly it because that’s what he dose for a living. And if we have to go to these lengths to make how this could happen, then surly the story is just getting silly. It was bad enough when the toxic alliance showed up in WvW with no explanation on how they got there.

People are saying that scarlet was under the control or Mordi. But there is zero proof to back that up. If anything scarlet drilling down to the Pauline woke Mordi up. Nothing more. Also there is no evidance that Mordi had a telapathic link to scarlet and could read her thoughts. Let alone understand them, I mean if I could read an ants thoughts would I understand them? Probably not. I do love how people seem to jump on a theory then turn it into fact. If you or anyone else can point me to an ingame point, post or article where a dev or someone who works on the story has said unreservedly that Mordi was controlling scarlet then it’s all just a theory.

How is the WP system connected?

lordkrall.7241:

How is the WP system connected?

Well good question, I’m not that familiar with it either.

Scarlet released the energy contained in the laylines into the world, which woke Mordy. So it’s highly likely that these vines are trying to tap into the WP system to absorb back some of that energy. It’s also quite likely they are traveling through the leyline, tapping WP as they go along. That’s my thinking.

skullmount.1758:

Oooooh, new pictures on the tumbler: http://guildwars2.tumblr.com/post/91269491739

So something more with the Steam creatures, and more jumping/height stuff (and what looks like a whole/undamaged zephyr ship).

Nah. The Zephryite thing is definitely a work in progress. It’s all bamboo poles/scaffolding and no structure yet.

It’s either they are trying to rebuild to get flying again, or simply creating shelter for themselves. I’d probably go toward shelter until the Master of Peace comes back, unless his task is something specific and he told them to move on.

lordkrall.7241:

How is the WP system connected?

They work by magic. And a small spell to relieve you of your coin.

BrotherBelial.3094:

They work by magic. And a small spell to relieve you of your coin.

And why would it be so impossible that a entity that consumes magic can utilize said magic?

lordkrall.7241:

BrotherBelial.3094:

They work by magic. And a small spell to relieve you of your coin.

And why would it be so impossible that a entity that consumes magic can utilize said magic?

I think the point is they aren’t using them to travel. If you look at the Tunnels Waypoint, you’ll see that the vine is tapping they energy from that WP. In the video, you can see a broken WP laying on the ground.

lordkrall.7241:

BrotherBelial.3094:

They work by magic. And a small spell to relieve you of your coin.

And why would it be so impossible that a entity that consumes magic can utilize said magic?

As it would not fit with how we know the dragons work. They consume magic. And as I’ve said, how would they know how to use it. Even if Mordi could read scarlets thoughts, there is no resin to think he would understand them as I already said if you or I could read an ants mind there is no resin to think we would understand it. For me this is reaching of the highest order just for the sake of a story.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/lwd/Why-hasnt-anyone-brought-this-up/first#post4188982 figured id post this here, alotta people seem to of forgot about scarlets vision

Why wouldn’t the dragons be able to use magic?

Because you know, there is literally (IIRC that is) a form of magic called “dragon magic”, like necro magic, elemental, chaos, etc.

Also the fact that anybody can use the waypoints, provided they got the coin. So why would it be impossible for the dragon to use it? Out of the box for sure, but I could see it happening.

Though I’d imagine the same money restrictions would apply, hence why we don’t see Zhaitan overloading the waypoints by sending armies through :P.

Kalavier.1097:

Why wouldn’t the dragons be able to use magic?

Because you know, there is literally (IIRC that is) a form of magic called “dragon magic”, like necro magic, elemental, chaos, etc.

Also the fact that anybody can use the waypoints, provided they got the coin. So why would it be impossible for the dragon to use it? Out of the box for sure, but I could see it happening.

Though I’d imagine the same money restrictions would apply, hence why we don’t see Zhaitan overloading the waypoints by sending armies through :P.

Travel via waypoints is the only possible way mordys vines are traving across tyria so quickly theres honestly no other way idk why people cant accept wp travel, if we remember zhaitans minions used asura gates in trinity during ps. why couldnt they also be able to use waypoints? Its not as far fetched as people keep making it seem

narwhalsbend.7059:

KarateKid.5648:

oh no! please don’t “Kessex” Timberline Falls, Anet! Mess up Frostgorge or something else equally lame and boring.

This please (minus the second part). When will Kessex and LA go back to normal?

I agree, do not “Kessex” Timerline, I am sick of nice locations constantly getting spoiled for the sake of a plot line I do not even enjoy.

onemantankwall.3641:

Travel via waypoints is the only possible way mordys vines are traving across tyria so quickly theres honestly no other way idk why people cant accept wp travel, if we remember zhaitans minions used asura gates in trinity during ps. why couldnt they also be able to use waypoints? Its not as far fetched as people keep making it seem

Another option is they are going out along the ley-lines or something.

Aedelric.1287:

I agree, do not “Kessex” Timerline, I am sick of nice locations constantly getting spoiled for the sake of a plot line I do not even enjoy.

Who says huge chunks of it will be changed and not just Concordia? As we see in the trailer, ONLY the fort is ruined, the area wound it is actually untouched by the vines.

onemantankwall.3641:

Kalavier.1097:

Why wouldn’t the dragons be able to use magic?

Because you know, there is literally (IIRC that is) a form of magic called “dragon magic”, like necro magic, elemental, chaos, etc.

Also the fact that anybody can use the waypoints, provided they got the coin. So why would it be impossible for the dragon to use it? Out of the box for sure, but I could see it happening.

Though I’d imagine the same money restrictions would apply, hence why we don’t see Zhaitan overloading the waypoints by sending armies through :P.

Travel via waypoints is the only possible way mordys vines are traving across tyria so quickly theres honestly no other way idk why people cant accept wp travel, if we remember zhaitans minions used asura gates in trinity during ps. why couldnt they also be able to use waypoints? Its not as far fetched as people keep making it seem

Then why didn’t Zhitan use the waypoints in the first place? He didn’t know how they worked? But yet he knew how the gates worked? Sorry. It’s bad story telling is suddenly they know how they work. I can swallow the vines traveling the laylines to suck up the magic the can after scarlet disrupted it. I mean it’s still crake long away at the drill bit on the breach maker as of last week. But Mordi knowing how way points work and sending his vines out to tap into them all the way over to timberland, I’m sorry it’s a bit too much. Undead showing up on most maps made sence dew to the placement of Orr.

I have my own theory about the vines and the waypoints. What if it’s not vines traveling by waypoint, but spores brought along by travelers, that sprout near sources of magic in order to consume it for Mordremoth?

BrotherBelial.3094:

Then why didn’t Zhitan use the waypoints in the first place? He didn’t know how they worked? But yet he knew how the gates worked? Sorry. It’s bad story telling is suddenly they know how they work. I can swallow the vines traveling the laylines to suck up the magic the can after scarlet disrupted it. I mean it’s still crake long away at the drill bit on the breach maker as of last week. But Mordi knowing how way points work and sending his vines out to tap into them all the way over to timberland, I’m sorry it’s a bit too much. Undead showing up on most maps made sence dew to the placement of Orr.

Because part of the waypoints nature is the magic also automatically takes the money for the fees. Hence why Taimi’s first question after Logan starts dragging her off is “You are paying the waypoint fees right?”

So yeah, Zhaitan didn’t flood the place with risen through the waypoints because likely, there is some extra fee for cargo/extra large teleports (or groups at once), and likely his random undead didn’t have the money to cover it :P

Manasa Devi.7958:

I have my own theory about the vines and the waypoints. What if it’s not vines traveling by waypoint, but spores brought along by travelers, that sprout near sources of magic in order to consume it for Mordremoth?

Something I had thought of. What if they sent through a few seeds which burrowed, then grew into a ‘vine hub’ or something?

Then again, remember the three-headed great jungle wurm has the heads appear pretty far apart, and likely is related to mordi :P.

Manasa Devi.7958:

I have my own theory about the vines and the waypoints. What if it’s not vines traveling by waypoint, but spores brought along by travelers, that sprout near sources of magic in order to consume it for Mordremoth?

OH MY GOD. We missed the obvious answer to this. THE TOWER OF NIGHTMARES! You remember how it was stated the spores were spreading across Tyria? It was Chekhov’s Gun! The spores were already planted by the tower, and are now sprouting. It’s how the vines can be at Timberline Falls despite Mordremeth’s distance to it!

RyuDragnier.9476:

Manasa Devi.7958:

I have my own theory about the vines and the waypoints. What if it’s not vines traveling by waypoint, but spores brought along by travelers, that sprout near sources of magic in order to consume it for Mordremoth?

OH MY GOD. We missed the obvious answer to this. THE TOWER OF NIGHTMARES! You remember how it was stated the spores were spreading across Tyria? It was Chekhov’s Gun! The spores were already planted by the tower, and are now sprouting. It’s how the vines can be at Timberline Falls despite Mordremeth’s distance to it!

I don’t think thats how it went down, scarlet wouldnt of bothered with the miasma if that was really her plan all along i dont think she would of even bothered attacking LA until the vines grew, scarlet knew of mordys corruption via the vision and with the help of mordys corruption/vision created the miasma that allowed her the time to drill the layline could mordy of woke himself up as soon as scarlet hit the layline because of zhaitans death? (He immediately attacks the pact, thats saying ALOT about mordys plans, so mordy wanted the layline to be hit, maybe to have the vines travel on it? (Which backs up the layline travel theory)

I’ve got another idea.

We know that Scarlet used the Breachmaker to direct a surge of energy from the ley-line to Mordremoths sleeping place. I am wondering if redirecting the flow of magic in the ley-line did not cause it to become permanently connected to Mordremoth. This could potentially allow him to feed on a much more rapid rate than he did.

My guess is that Mordremoth has not awakended yet, he is in a sort of pre-awakening state, and needs more magic to do so. As a dragon connected with plants, he might be using the vines as a root system to suck on magic from every major source (much like Mouths of Zhaitan). Or this might be a sign that a major branch of the ley-line became somewhat corrupted by Mordremoth linked to it.

It’s worth noting here that his vines are spreading to more and more waypoints in Brisban and Kessex, following a route. This would seem to indicate something happening below, not using the waypoints themselves to travel.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

That’s probably because all the crazy map people found the centaur camp outside of the dry top map last week, so we already knew there would be centaurs coming.

It will be interesting to see how they play into the story though.

Also, GW1 vets like myself heard something about centaurs and remember farming Maguuma Manes.

Has anyone thought that maybe Modri is sending one of his generals to attack pact in Timberline Falls instead of him personally doing so? And this opens a way for a new World Boss event? Just a thought.

Invidia.9074:

I’ve got another idea.

We know that Scarlet used the Breachmaker to direct a surge of energy from the ley-line to Mordremoths sleeping place. I am wondering if redirecting the flow of magic in the ley-line did not cause it to become permanently connected to Mordremoth. This could potentially allow him to feed on a much more rapid rate than he did.

My guess is that Mordremoth has not awakended yet, he is in a sort of pre-awakening state, and needs more magic to do so. As a dragon connected with plants, he might be using the vines as a root system to suck on magic from every major source (much like Mouths of Zhaitan). Or this might be a sign that a major branch of the ley-line became somewhat corrupted by Mordremoth linked to it.

don’t see this being it either, it goes against scarlets vision/her motive of doing everything she did, if she wanted the pale tree choked by vines she wouldnt prolong mordys awakening, plus the vines isnt just sucking up random magical energy, they ATTACK the pact directly knowing what happened to zhaiten, mordy didnt take any chances of getting pewed pewed, ur theory would hold if it wasnt for the strategized attack against the pact

JLHiggs.6258:

It’s worth noting here that his vines are spreading to more and more waypoints in Brisban and Kessex, following a route. This would seem to indicate something happening below, not using the waypoints themselves to travel.

The path taken by the vine progression also coincides with the path someone might take going from Tangle Root to Fort Salma. Belinda Delaqua was ordered that way. The vine progression goes beyond that though. It will be interesting to see if Belinda also headed into that direction after reaching the fort.

Tiger Ashante.1792:

Has anyone thought that maybe Modri is sending one of his generals to attack pact in Timberline Falls instead of him personally doing so? And this opens a way for a new World Boss event? Just a thought.

And would not make a lick of sence. No dragon has a champ that far from them. Timberland is almost the other side of the world away from where we think Mordi is. There had better be a very good resin for a vine to be there. I like the tower of nightmares idea. And it would make sence. If Mordi was influencing scarel, and he made her do that with out her knowing that would be cool. And better than the claims that Mordi knows everything scarlet did rubbish that’s going around.

onemantankwall.3641:

Invidia.9074:

I’ve got another idea.

We know that Scarlet used the Breachmaker to direct a surge of energy from the ley-line to Mordremoths sleeping place. I am wondering if redirecting the flow of magic in the ley-line did not cause it to become permanently connected to Mordremoth. This could potentially allow him to feed on a much more rapid rate than he did.

My guess is that Mordremoth has not awakended yet, he is in a sort of pre-awakening state, and needs more magic to do so. As a dragon connected with plants, he might be using the vines as a root system to suck on magic from every major source (much like Mouths of Zhaitan). Or this might be a sign that a major branch of the ley-line became somewhat corrupted by Mordremoth linked to it.

don’t see this being it either, it goes against scarlets vision/her motive of doing everything she did, if she wanted the pale tree choked by vines she wouldnt prolong mordys awakening, plus the vines isnt just sucking up random magical energy, they ATTACK the pact directly knowing what happened to zhaiten, mordy didnt take any chances of getting pewed pewed, ur theory would hold if it wasnt for the strategized attack against the pact

And how do you propose Mordi knows what happened to Zhitan? Did he leave Mordi a voice mail? As far as we know Mordi has been asleep till scarlet woke him up.

BrotherBelial.3094:

onemantankwall.3641:

Invidia.9074:

I’ve got another idea.

We know that Scarlet used the Breachmaker to direct a surge of energy from the ley-line to Mordremoths sleeping place. I am wondering if redirecting the flow of magic in the ley-line did not cause it to become permanently connected to Mordremoth. This could potentially allow him to feed on a much more rapid rate than he did.

My guess is that Mordremoth has not awakended yet, he is in a sort of pre-awakening state, and needs more magic to do so. As a dragon connected with plants, he might be using the vines as a root system to suck on magic from every major source (much like Mouths of Zhaitan). Or this might be a sign that a major branch of the ley-line became somewhat corrupted by Mordremoth linked to it.

don’t see this being it either, it goes against scarlets vision/her motive of doing everything she did, if she wanted the pale tree choked by vines she wouldnt prolong mordys awakening, plus the vines isnt just sucking up random magical energy, they ATTACK the pact directly knowing what happened to zhaiten, mordy didnt take any chances of getting pewed pewed, ur theory would hold if it wasnt for the strategized attack against the pact

And how do you propose Mordi knows what happened to Zhitan? Did he leave Mordi a voice mail? As far as we know Mordi has been asleep till scarlet woke him up.

The fact that the very first thing he does when he wakes up is start destroying pact bases???

I wouldn’t be surprised to see inquest involved. They have tried experiments with Dragon minions before.

The vine at Tunnels Waypoint in Brisban is now grabbing the waypoint and appears to be pulling the energy out of it.

onemantankwall.3641:

BrotherBelial.3094:

onemantankwall.3641:

Invidia.9074:

I’ve got another idea.

We know that Scarlet used the Breachmaker to direct a surge of energy from the ley-line to Mordremoths sleeping place. I am wondering if redirecting the flow of magic in the ley-line did not cause it to become permanently connected to Mordremoth. This could potentially allow him to feed on a much more rapid rate than he did.

My guess is that Mordremoth has not awakended yet, he is in a sort of pre-awakening state, and needs more magic to do so. As a dragon connected with plants, he might be using the vines as a root system to suck on magic from every major source (much like Mouths of Zhaitan). Or this might be a sign that a major branch of the ley-line became somewhat corrupted by Mordremoth linked to it.

don’t see this being it either, it goes against scarlets vision/her motive of doing everything she did, if she wanted the pale tree choked by vines she wouldnt prolong mordys awakening, plus the vines isnt just sucking up random magical energy, they ATTACK the pact directly knowing what happened to zhaiten, mordy didnt take any chances of getting pewed pewed, ur theory would hold if it wasnt for the strategized attack against the pact

And how do you propose Mordi knows what happened to Zhitan? Did he leave Mordi a voice mail? As far as we know Mordi has been asleep till scarlet woke him up.

The fact that the very first thing he does when he wakes up is start destroying pact bases???

So attack the one as far away from him as possible? When all the homes for the Ordes are on the way? Sorry that makes even less sence. Also you did not address my point of HOW HE KNOWS ZHITAN IS DEAD. When he’s been asleep the whole time.