Guild Wars 2

What is going on with the argo of these, I honestly have the argo every round all round. Its dumb, if their there to stop a blowout please take it out. People shouldn’t be punished for being better than others.

It would make sense to have them attacking the person with the crab, but not the point leader the entire match… that’s just kittening dumb.

So, apparently, those things targeting algorithm works with toughness which is kittenING kitten and dumb and should be fixed ASAP. I am a warrior with a really tanky pvp build so they ALWAYS ran after me (and I still won every match). Here’s a small solution: Just play naked. This will reduce your toughness so they wont target you, but some1 else with high toughness. But that doesn’t solve the problem. ANet needs to change their targeting algortihm.

So it was an issue!
I kept noticing this and my GOD is it annoying.
Getting swarmed with the ball.
Getting swarmed while chasing the ball carrier.
Getting swarmed even while knocked out from being swarmed!

Wait – one of the achievements is to be the last man standing holding a crab – how are you ever going to get that achievement if you’re the only one being targeted?

Auesis.7301:

Wait – one of the achievements is to be the last man standing holding a crab – how are you ever going to get that achievement if you’re the only one being targeted?

we’re talking about hatchlings, not the big ones that oneshot

Crovax.7854:

Auesis.7301:

Wait – one of the achievements is to be the last man standing holding a crab – how are you ever going to get that achievement if you’re the only one being targeted?

we’re talking about hatchlings, not the big ones that oneshot

Ah, makes sense.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

The big ones only target crab carriers as well. Here’s how to get Crabtacular:

1. Grab crab.
2. Run from other players.
3. Run towards big karka.
4. Dodge big karka roll.
5. Watch karka roll over everyone who was chasing you.
6. Laugh.

7. Look at the person/people off to the side purposely staying out of the way so they don’t get run over. Realize your strategy didn’t work as well you hoped it would.

That strategy would work…on lemmings.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

The big ones only target crab carriers as well. Here’s how to get Crabtacular:

1. Grab crab.
2. Run from other players.
3. Run towards big karka.
4. Dodge big karka roll.
5. Watch karka roll over everyone who was chasing you.
6. Laugh.

Here was my strategy.

Grab crab, run like a fool, and out of the blue get awarded with achievement.

In other words, luck seems to be a big part of this.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

The big ones only target crab carriers as well. Here’s how to get Crabtacular:

1. Grab crab.
2. Run from other players.
3. Run towards big karka.
4. Dodge big karka roll.
5. Watch karka roll over everyone who was chasing you.
6. Laugh.

Easier said than done. Not everyone is going to follow you into a Karka. Not to mention they have the ability to roll as well.

I don’t know. I found it fairly easy to do. Because, you know, not everyone is constantly hovering over the battlefield going “Hmmmmm this particular placement is beneficial to my overall strategy in this minigame.”

Most of the time it’s “Get close to the person with the crab and press 1!”

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

You’re right, luck is a big part of this. It’s just meant to be a fun achievement though, in a game that’s only been around for a few hours.

Perhaps if it’s truly an issue we’ll change it to something else.

that would be great. as people said, that tactic would only work on braindead zombies. maybe change it to “hold the succulent crab when the match ends”.
that’s what some thought it was, and it would be much more “fun”.

edit: it’s fine if you don’t want to change the achievement, but in this case i’m going to assemble a group through the forums to go in the game and get it
for everyone in a coordinated way. (which obviously wasn’t the intended design)

I just hope the crab toss event is just not apart of getting the exotic back piece. We shouldn’t be required to play if we don’t want to, and shouldn’t be held back from the ultimate rewards of the living story if we don’t choose to participate in mini games.

Perhaps it won’t be as impossible to get these achievements after the agro issue is addressed, and I just hope you’ll consider making mini games mini games.

It’s not needed completely for the back piece. You only need 25 achievements.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

You’re right, luck is a big part of this. It’s just meant to be a fun achievement though, in a game that’s only been around for a few hours.

Perhaps if it’s truly an issue we’ll change it to something else.

I really would appreciate this being changed. It is an incredibly frustrating achievement. The better players get at dodging the harder it is to achieve. The biggest problem is that it isn’t something you personally achieved, it is something everyone else failed at.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

The big ones only target crab carriers as well. Here’s how to get Crabtacular:

1. Grab crab.
2. Run from other players.
3. Run towards big karka.
4. Dodge big karka roll.
5. Watch karka roll over everyone who was chasing you.
6. Laugh.

I did exactly that before knowing there was an achievement for it.

I have done the requirements for this achievement, yet it’s not completing. I have the crab, I dodge roll into the Karkas as they roll towards me. The karkas then squish the other players. So here is my question:

Do the karkas have to kill all of the enemy players, or just some of them for this achievement to pop?

Sera.6539:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

The big ones only target crab carriers as well. Here’s how to get Crabtacular:

1. Grab crab.
2. Run from other players.
3. Run towards big karka.
4. Dodge big karka roll.
5. Watch karka roll over everyone who was chasing you.
6. Laugh.

7. Look at the person/people off to the side purposely staying out of the way so they don’t get run over. Realize your strategy didn’t work as well you hoped it would.

Simple, wait until there’s 3 big karka rolling around and cackle madly as everyone else is flattened like a bloody pancake because those karka will hit just about everythign xD

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Only the person carrying the crab should be targeted. There’s currently an issue where if you ever held the crab you will forever be a target. This should be fixed soon and it will make the game a lot easier to play.

not really, soon as I enter with my warrior they are all on me, and stay on me until finish or someone else with more toughness comes inside

Oh so its not just me getting peaved when I come second every round feeling like I am being conspired against, I actually am getting permatargetted by karka.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

The big ones only target crab carriers as well. Here’s how to get Crabtacular:

1. Grab crab.
2. Run from other players.
3. Run towards big karka.
4. Dodge big karka roll.
5. Watch karka roll over everyone who was chasing you.
6. Laugh.

I figured this out on my own. I won 8 matches in a row before I quit (got all the achievements except the one where you are the last man standing because somebody is always off to the side). A nice thing to follow up with or use when you have no other options.

1. Throw crab at any for that lived (within 600-900 units to ensure it isn’t too close that other players will easily see it while being within range to quickly grab back).
2. Run towards them where they fell and take it from them and continue running.

Just be careful not to get dazed after you throw it.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

You’re right, luck is a big part of this. It’s just meant to be a fun achievement though, in a game that’s only been around for a few hours.

Perhaps if it’s truly an issue we’ll change it to something else.

I for one would appreciate it if it was changed. As it is, luck isn’t a “big” part of this – it’s the only part of this. People don’t behave like mobs that follow you around blindly. If people stayed dead after going down, perhaps this would be more manageable, but as it is it’s 100% dependent on you getting lucky with karka rolls while holding a crab. Not really an achievement when it relies entirely on everyone else failing at the same time.

It could be changed to what people mistake it for (be holding the crab at the end of the match) or just “lead karka to kill people x amount of times” if you still want people falling for the karka roll to be a part of it.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

You’re right, luck is a big part of this. It’s just meant to be a fun achievement though, in a game that’s only been around for a few hours.

Perhaps if it’s truly an issue we’ll change it to something else.

I really think you should think about changing it a bit. I mean… Toypocalypse achievement from Wintersday also got changed…

and I thought it was impossible but just the day after it got changed(so you needed only 1 of the dolyaks alive) I found a team that managed to keep all the 5 alive.

But here it is not with teams. Totally random because it is free for all which makes it harder cause it is less likely that you can talk to all the others and agree to do the achievements in turn to let first 1 get it then let the next get it…

I’ve been having a load of issue with skills not activating and the veteran karka when they decided to take turns knocking you down, last night I was stuck in place and couldn’t use a single skill for 45 seconds because as soon as I started standing up they knocked me straight back over again.

Honestly don’t know if I can be bothered with these achievements, got every limited time one so far then anet brought out the patch that broke the slayer titles and it took my toypocalypse achievement to 49/50 and lost me the points, unless toypocalypse is in next year that’s a bunch of achievement points I earned that I can never get back.

I played Crab Toss for 2-3 hours and maxed out everything but never even got close to having this achievement, despite me usually finishing 1st/2nd in my games (meaning I had the grab very often).

Just seems to take a lot of luck. I guess it’s not the worst thing in the world but I don’t think I will be able to get it unless it changes.

Crovax.7854:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

You’re right, luck is a big part of this. It’s just meant to be a fun achievement though, in a game that’s only been around for a few hours.

Perhaps if it’s truly an issue we’ll change it to something else.

that would be great. as people said, that tactic would only work on braindead zombies. maybe change it to “hold the succulent crab when the match ends”.
that’s what some thought it was, and it would be much more “fun”.

edit: it’s fine if you don’t want to change the achievement, but in this case i’m going to assemble a group through the forums to go in the game and get it
for everyone in a coordinated way. (which obviously wasn’t the intended design)

Since match fixing is against ToS/CoC you might want to consider both the things you do and the things you say in the forums.

Aye.8392:

Crovax.7854:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

You’re right, luck is a big part of this. It’s just meant to be a fun achievement though, in a game that’s only been around for a few hours.

Perhaps if it’s truly an issue we’ll change it to something else.

that would be great. as people said, that tactic would only work on braindead zombies. maybe change it to “hold the succulent crab when the match ends”.
that’s what some thought it was, and it would be much more “fun”.

edit: it’s fine if you don’t want to change the achievement, but in this case i’m going to assemble a group through the forums to go in the game and get it
for everyone in a coordinated way. (which obviously wasn’t the intended design)

Since match fixing is against ToS/CoC you might want to consider both the things you do and the things you say in the forums.

Or get two teams like in keg brawl, where you pass the crab and get points for it or make smaller team in a match of five or so so one palyer isn’t constantly zerged. Of course no one will like this suggestion.

Crabtacular should be just something that scores and gives you points in the game, not an achievement.
Something like +100 points, letting you get ahead.

Luck is too much a part of it, as many people dodge the karka, so it’s impossible unless you are really lucky and get a game with people that won’t dodge; or manage to find a game in which everyone dodges, do three karka in a row so they run out of endurance and then hope they won’t simply walk out of the way of the karka; or everyone but you suddenly lags like crazy.

Achievements should be something that you ‘achieve’. They should be about skill and dedication. Not mostly about luck, or being able to convince everyone in the current game to cheat and let you get it by paying them or something like that, and getting reported if you do not agree to that.

Luthan.5236:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

You’re right, luck is a big part of this. It’s just meant to be a fun achievement though, in a game that’s only been around for a few hours.

Perhaps if it’s truly an issue we’ll change it to something else.

I really think you should think about changing it a bit. I mean… Toypocalypse achievement from Wintersday also got changed…

and I thought it was impossible but just the day after it got changed(so you needed only 1 of the dolyaks alive) I found a team that managed to keep all the 5 alive.

But here it is not with teams. Totally random because it is free for all which makes it harder cause it is less likely that you can talk to all the others and agree to do the achievements in turn to let first 1 get it then let the next get it…

Keeping all 5 alive wasn’t even that hard, the problem is that everyone was hell bent on using a rifle/hammer, 1 pistol in the group can completely shut the toys down and turn them on one another.

Luthan.5236:

I really think you should think about changing it a bit. I mean… Toypocalypse achievement from Wintersday also got changed…

and I thought it was impossible but just the day after it got changed(so you needed only 1 of the dolyaks alive) I found a team that managed to keep all the 5 alive.

But here it is not with teams. Totally random because it is free for all which makes it harder cause it is less likely that you can talk to all the others and agree to do the achievements in turn to let first 1 get it then let the next get it…

Yeah, keeping 5 dolyaks alive was easier than this achievement.. but they still nerfed the dolyak one. I believe the dolyak one was nerfed cause it was hard to get in pugs. This one is just hard to get no matter what. This one needs to be nerfed.

Funny enough, I just asked everyone to stack so I could get the achieve and they were all nice about it.

Moyeu.1729:

Funny enough, I just asked everyone to stack so I could get the achieve and they were all nice about it.

That’s pretty nice of them. I’ll have to ask people for a boost party later. It’s the only way I can see getting this achievement.

I pretty much love everything about this update and even liked the crab toss until one person of questionable parentage decided to single me out the entire game whether I had the crab or not and I was not in first place. They kept using the fishing pole over and over and over again to pull me across the arena. I guess I must have taken it from then and they were having a cry baby fit, but it was harassment not fun. I think the items should have something to prevent spam use. One person ruined it for me and I think that’s crap.

Getting the crabtacular achievement is not all about luck. Although it is harder if you’re in a larger group. I got it with a group of four of us and I focused on trying to get it, luring the others close to the three giant karka at the right times until I got it.

kevkelsar.9507:

Getting the crabtacular achievement is not all about luck. Although it is harder if you’re in a larger group. I got it with a group of four of us and I focused on trying to get it, luring the others close to the three giant karka at the right times until I got it.

so you are saying it’s not all about luck,
but admitting it’s easier if you get lucky and end up
in a smaller group?

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Only the person carrying the crab should be targeted. There’s currently an issue where if you ever held the crab you will forever be a target. This should be fixed soon and it will make the game a lot easier to play.

Yes I noticed this a few times.

I dominated my opponents repeatedly until on the last game i played, they all left except for two of them. When there was just two it was a lot easier to get the achievement.

So basically my tip to get the achieve is just smash your opponents so hard that most of them rage quit. Makes it a lot easier when you only have to rely on a few people failing. Also with less people theres less likely to be someone standing way off to the side.

I got it already, it was just luck. I grabbed one of those bottles, and when there was 3 karka, I walked straight to them. All of them dodge the first two, but none had a bottle, so I drank and dodged the third.

I still think they should change it.

I was just lucky they didn’t have a bottle and they were all behind me. If any of them had a bottle and saw me drink and drank too to dodge a third time, or any was outside the path of the rolling karka, I would not have gotten it.

Lucky achievements should not be limited in time. They should be stuff like the Skritt burglar transformations. Something you just can keep trying with dedication until you get them, and always available so you can attempt them whenever you have time for it, or get them by playing normally.

TL;DR: Imo no single achievement should be purely based on luck as it’s supposed to be an achievement. I don’t see how being the luckiest person in the entire game is something you’ve achieved.

If it’s permanent content you can at least keep trying to get it forever until you finally are that lucky, but since this acitivty won’t be around for that long I’d say it should be changed. There’s probably only one point in the match when it’s remotely possible to get the achievement and that is when the three karka’s are up. If you are by far first in the match but happen to loose the crab during that part of the match you’re still left without a chance. Today I managed to get everyone down except for 1 and that already felt difficult enough. It’s just too easy to dodge/completely avoid them. A big part of that is also the overload of crates. These usually cause at least one player to entirely focus on the crates for a while to get something good (Fishing Pole) meaning that player isn’t following you or near you. Also some players just wait around in the middle with that thing until they see an opportunity.

People who say that all you need to do is hold the crab and lure the zerg into the karka trap:

You do realise that everybody else ALSO dodge rolls/dashes… right?

:(

Please change this achievement to something else, this isn’t doable. Sooo many people running around like headless chicken, never grouping up, or chasing on foot. If you dash, they do it behind you avoiding big karkas anyways, and even if they didn’t many of them are on the sides or running in random direction and it is almost impossible to achieve.

The only way I’ve seen / heard of people achieving this is if they come to some sort of agreement and help each other do it, in other words stage it.

I have almost every achievement (except karka queen which i killed, it seems to be bugged, and that last story mission achievement that’s still not implemented) and this one will be a problem. This game ain’t so good that i would wanna keep playing it for hours hoping i will get lucky with only 2 people entering arena and big karka runs over them and i have the crab at precise that moment… Cause 3 or more people inside it’s almost impossible.

Personally I feel they should have changed it to a gauge like the Crabgrabber title, where it keeps track of how many people fell to karkas while you had the crab. 30 or 40 downs while you have it, and you get the title. That’s how I would have done it, anyway.