[PvP] Making Warrior GS more viable in 2 mins

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Posted by: witcher.3197

witcher.3197

Biggest problem with GS is that Hundred Blades is hard to land – which is fine because of how strong this skill is. People who try to make it work usually have to sacrifice a utility slot to pick a CC. Warriors using GS usually go with a setup of 4 in Strength, 6 in Defense, 4 in Discipline. My suggestions focus on enhancing it.

1) In Strength’s Adept part basically there is nothing worthwile for people who don’t dual-wield – but on Master tier there are 2 traits that benefit this build. My suggestion is that you move Physical Training to Adept and maybe move Short Temper up (I’m sure that won’t hurt any builds)? This way we can have Physical Training (to reduce the CD of Bull’s Charge or Throw Bolas) AND Slashing Power.

2) Tactics line – GS builds barely use it in PvP, but you could change this. Leg Specialist causes 1 sec immob if you cripple a foe and has a 5 sec CD. Considering that warriors really can’t spam cripples, maybe you should reduce the CD to 1 seconds – Bladetrail cripples foes in a line, and then comes back to you, crippling them again – from the right distance and with the right aim, this could Immobilize targets twice. This would give GS an option to root targets for a bit of time to land some 100blades hits. Best part is that it wouldn’t affect Hambow at all – they are using this trait but only have 1 skill that causes cripple.

These really are some minor things that could make it a lot more viable. Would it be meta? Probably not, but it could definitely improve the build.

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Posted by: Tim.6450

Tim.6450

Considering that warriors really can’t spam cripples,

Take a look at warrior mainhand sword.

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Posted by: witcher.3197

witcher.3197

Considering that warriors really can’t spam cripples,

Take a look at warrior mainhand sword.

Well basically nobody’s running main-hand sword in PvP – condi builds use mace. But you got a point there, immob on autoattack would be imba

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Posted by: Paavotar.3971

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Considering that warriors really can’t spam cripples,

Take a look at warrior mainhand sword.

Well basically nobody’s running main-hand sword in PvP – condi builds use mace. But you got a point there, immob on autoattack would be imba

Ummm… ok.

At least in WvW you can see a lot of Sw mainhanders, power and condi builds. Especially the power builds would have this trait traited if it had 1s CD. Sure, it would be ok with the old sword, but with the new one, nope.

What comes to the first point though. I would like this to be honest. Physical skills need some buffing anyways.

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Posted by: Siva Mira.3546

Siva Mira.3546

While I love your desire for making GS better but you are mistaken if you think nobody use Sword and specially in PvP at all. There was a time when a new patch came out and Leg Specialist bugged which lost its ICD which is very much similar to what you just suggested for 1sec ICD. And you know what? Yes, it was a nightmare with an unbreakable Cripple LOL

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Posted by: Zord.6130

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Considering that warriors really can’t spam cripples,

Take a look at warrior mainhand sword.

Well basically nobody’s running main-hand sword in PvP – condi builds use mace. But you got a point there, immob on autoattack would be imba

When Leg Specialist was put with no ICD, every warrior was using sword main hand in pvp.

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Posted by: Liewec.2896

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My suggestion is that you move Physical Training to Adept and maybe move Short Temper up

my GSzerker uses short temper, you just broke my build XD

imho the change to arcing slice will really buff GS after the patch, the 5% damage nerf to whirl and 100b will barely be noticeable, but following up your 100b with an 8k arcing slice will definitely be noticeable! things still moving? throw in a final thrust!

i’m not a fan of the adrenaline nerf though, so we’ll have to see how things pan out.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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Considering that warriors really can’t spam cripples,

Take a look at warrior mainhand sword.

Well basically nobody’s running main-hand sword in PvP – condi builds use mace. But you got a point there, immob on autoattack would be imba

When Leg Specialist was put with no ICD, every warrior was using sword main hand in pvp.

when leg specialist had no icd, all a condi warrior had to do was look at 2 people funny and theyd run… and the warrior would catch up and kill both of them

nothing else has ever motivated anet to hotfix a balance decision (cuz of the interaction with arrow carts)

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Posted by: Doon.2364

Doon.2364

I agree. Physical Training should be move down to Adept tier. No one really picks it at master. It fits perfectly in Adept and can be quite useful.

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Posted by: Epidemix Revenge.4862

Epidemix Revenge.4862

Considering that warriors really can’t spam cripples,

Take a look at warrior mainhand sword.

Well basically nobody’s running main-hand sword in PvP – condi builds use mace. But you got a point there, immob on autoattack would be imba

I use sword mh for my shout condi warrior… I have never seen anyone using mace mainhand…for any build. But especially condi. Rabid ammy+Krait Rune+Earth sigil+Flurry=Bleeding out your bunghole. If I am against a lot of melee classes I’ll throw on a geomancy sigil on my swords too. There are some nasty combos I pull off sometimes with s/s longbow

Pin down>
then run to melee range(/w earth n geo sigils)switch to s/s >
Signet of Rage>
Savage leap(with leg specialist)>
Impale>
Riposte >
Flurry>
AA AA AA>
switch to LB (W Earth n GEO>
Fan of fire.
With a combustive shot thrown in there somewhere.

Obviously I don’t get the whole thing off very often but even when I get partial segments of it off with my build it is pretty nasty.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQNAscTjMdU5ZnHmhwJigkgC5onBnCAVPR6ZouDCA-TZRFwABOEAAOBAJeCARLDka/BA

And yes I know my Ladder rating is kittenty but I was in the 300-700 range before I started going for all my champion titles. Mesmer hurt me bad. Ele Ranger and Thief are going to ruin me completely lol

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Posted by: witcher.3197

witcher.3197

Considering that warriors really can’t spam cripples,

Take a look at warrior mainhand sword.

Well basically nobody’s running main-hand sword in PvP – condi builds use mace. But you got a point there, immob on autoattack would be imba

I use sword mh for my shout condi warrior… I have never seen anyone using mace mainhand…for any build. But especially condi. Rabid ammy+Krait Rune+Earth sigil+Flurry=Bleeding out your bunghole. If I am against a lot of melee classes I’ll throw on a geomancy sigil on my swords too. There are some nasty combos I pull off sometimes with s/s longbow

Pin down>
then run to melee range(/w earth n geo sigils)switch to s/s >
Signet of Rage>
Savage leap(with leg specialist)>
Impale>
Riposte >
Flurry>
AA AA AA>
switch to LB (W Earth n GEO>
Fan of fire.
With a combustive shot thrown in there somewhere.

Obviously I don’t get the whole thing off very often but even when I get partial segments of it off with my build it is pretty nasty.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQNAscTjMdU5ZnHmhwJigkgC5onBnCAVPR6ZouDCA-TZRFwABOEAAOBAJeCARLDka/BA

And yes I know my Ladder rating is kittenty but I was in the 300-700 range before I started going for all my champion titles. Mesmer hurt me bad. Ele Ranger and Thief are going to ruin me completely lol

Shout condi. Ouch. It’s more of a WvW build I guess, there you need sword to run away, and shouts, well maybe I’ve seen 2 shout warrior in Pvp in 2 years and that’s for a reason.

If you want to be useful on condi war, you need mace and have to forget shouts.
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Warrior_-_Mace/Sword_Lb_Condition

Mace provides stun / Confusion / Reflects (if traited). If you focus too much on just 1 condition, anybody will outplay it.

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Posted by: Azure The Heartless.3261

Azure The Heartless.3261

2) Tactics line – GS builds barely use it in PvP, but you could change this. Leg Specialist causes 1 sec immob if you cripple a foe and has a 5 sec CD. Considering that warriors really can’t spam cripples, maybe you should reduce the CD to 1 seconds -
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Nah bro.

I run mainhand sword for fun in pvp and wvw.

I’d be ashamed to stunlock someone with immobs like that, especially with flurry doing the same.

Thats one immob every two seconds, almost perma immob if you trait dual wield

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Posted by: Teckos.1305

Teckos.1305

As someone who plays mainly gs/longbow, it’s in a good spot and the change to the gs f1 will even make it better.