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Posted by: Funk.7920

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I’ve recently been inspired by this youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R3BMkFQFC0 of an elementalist contributing to a very fast run in CoF. Whilst the build is largely a mystery (apart from going 30/30/10/0/0 according to this thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/How-to-play-ele-for-speed-p1-farm).

I have tried running this build:

http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mzsMz9Mz0MxMmmMxMmm0p0pGokmozV

Wearing full berserker with scholar runes, sigil of battle mainhand and sigil of force/bloodlust/smothering on offhand, swapping some utilities as necessary, it deals a great deal of damage (http://i46.tinypic.com/o9poq8.jpg). However, it struggles for survivability and consistent damage against the last boss of cof p1 (where I say survivability, I am not saying that I am dead, but that I have to stop dealing damage to heal or remove conditions etc, which is not ideal). It also focusses on big hits, so I need some thoughts on how to make a nice and high sustained damage version.

Case in point, I am wondering what other full berserker elementalists do for speed running these dungeons for cash.

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Posted by: vinceftw.5086

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Wow, I didn’t know warriors were THAT OP.

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Posted by: Funk.7920

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Yeah, the bit where he hit a 42k 100 blades and thought fairly little of it was a bit disheartening lol

Also, I know people must be sick of cof p1 farming topics in gw2, but like it or not it’s a small part of the game and is preferable to the laggy, overrepresented world events in terms of loot imo.

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Posted by: Gallrvaghn.4921

Gallrvaghn.4921

Also, I know people must be sick of cof p1 farming topics in gw2, but like it or not it’s a small part of the game and is preferable to the laggy, overrepresented world events in terms of loot imo.

Yep. And the more it’s discussed in the forums, the higher the chances it gets a major revamp sooner like what they did with AC. Even worse. XD

For the record, I’ve never set foot in CoF and other higher dungeons since I started playing. And I was part of the headstart last August. I just don’t like how dungeons are now. But that’s a different topic.

Anyways, a full GC ele will basically hit hard but also have a hard time trying to survive compared to other GC builds of other classes, in which case, you might be losing out on potential DPS in the long run. Unless you’re really really good at evading, kiting, and all.

“The boss you just killed respawns ten minutes
later. It doesn’t care that I’m there.”

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Posted by: Swiftwynd.1685

Swiftwynd.1685

Hey guys.

Based on this thread, and a very weird, vivid dream I had, I ended up making a very similar build that is both durable, supporty, and probably the highest damage any profession in an ideal group. Here is the full build on Guru

Its focused on using damage amplification, crit damage, self-healing over time, and lastly a little bit of toughness. Obviously if you went pure zerker on the jewelry it would pump out more damage, but I don’t feel like I’m missing much with Cavalier’s exotics with ex. Ruby jewels.

In an ideal scenario, you get either 55% or 60% bonus damage, and up to 80% once foe goes bellow <33% HP, while having around 70% or more crit chance with fury and food up.

I’d love some critiques of the build So far its run amazingly in dungeons.

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Posted by: Natedogg.9254

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Wow, sweet build, gonna try it.

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Posted by: Sabull.5670

Sabull.5670

Hey guys.

Based on this thread, and a very weird, vivid dream I had, I ended up making a very similar build that is both durable, supporty, and probably the highest damage any profession in an ideal group. Here is the full build on Guru

Its focused on using damage amplification, crit damage, self-healing over time, and lastly a little bit of toughness. Obviously if you went pure zerker on the jewelry it would pump out more damage, but I don’t feel like I’m missing much with Cavalier’s exotics with ex. Ruby jewels.

In an ideal scenario, you get either 55% or 60% bonus damage, and up to 80% once foe goes bellow <33% HP, while having around 70% or more crit chance with fury and food up.

I’d love some critiques of the build So far its run amazingly in dungeons.

You should swap 10 earth for 25 water + 5air. More damage bonus, you’ll have more than 3 boons in a dungeon.

Also I think you’ll be happy to hear your “60% Damage increase at virtually all times” is 78% bonus. And 113% when everything is rocking. (i used 3 boons, with 25 water version – 6%, and assumed force working, havent tested.)
Damage bonuses are multiplied, not added.

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Posted by: Razor.6392

Razor.6392

doesn’t “piercing shards” work when you are attuned to water only?

go try it at the mists.

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Posted by: Swiftwynd.1685

Swiftwynd.1685

doesn’t “piercing shards” work when you are attuned to water only?

go try it at the mists.

Yes, but you are still attuned to water while wielding the lightning hammer. You stay in water the entire time, giving party regeneration while simultaneously having a rocking damage bonus.

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Posted by: Swiftwynd.1685

Swiftwynd.1685

Hey guys.

Based on this thread, and a very weird, vivid dream I had, I ended up making a very similar build that is both durable, supporty, and probably the highest damage any profession in an ideal group. Here is the full build on Guru

Its focused on using damage amplification, crit damage, self-healing over time, and lastly a little bit of toughness. Obviously if you went pure zerker on the jewelry it would pump out more damage, but I don’t feel like I’m missing much with Cavalier’s exotics with ex. Ruby jewels.

In an ideal scenario, you get either 55% or 60% bonus damage, and up to 80% once foe goes bellow <33% HP, while having around 70% or more crit chance with fury and food up.

I’d love some critiques of the build So far its run amazingly in dungeons.

You should swap 10 earth for 25 water + 5air. More damage bonus, you’ll have more than 3 boons in a dungeon.

Also I think you’ll be happy to hear your “60% Damage increase at virtually all times” is 78% bonus. And 113% when everything is rocking. (i used 3 boons, with 25 water version – 6%, and assumed force working, havent tested.)
Damage bonuses are multiplied, not added.

Interesting!

Will the boon damage increase more than make up for the 5% damage buff and toughness losses from earth along with losing the crit chance/damage from air?

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Posted by: Leuca.5732

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Or just run bunker specced s/d and stack 25 might on your entire team. You’ll heal their bars more than their own healing skills and they’ll simply melt everything for you. Your own damage will be great too once you get your stacks going.

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

Stacking mights requires bunker spec?

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Posted by: Leuca.5732

Leuca.5732

Stacking mights requires bunker spec?

No, but you heal the crap out of your team and you don’t die, plus your entire team melts things because of might. Berserker stats are almost redundant when you have 25 might.

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

Oh, really? I thought otherwise.

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Posted by: Sabull.5670

Sabull.5670

Hey guys.

Based on this thread, and a very weird, vivid dream I had, I ended up making a very similar build that is both durable, supporty, and probably the highest damage any profession in an ideal group. Here is the full build on Guru

Its focused on using damage amplification, crit damage, self-healing over time, and lastly a little bit of toughness. Obviously if you went pure zerker on the jewelry it would pump out more damage, but I don’t feel like I’m missing much with Cavalier’s exotics with ex. Ruby jewels.

In an ideal scenario, you get either 55% or 60% bonus damage, and up to 80% once foe goes bellow <33% HP, while having around 70% or more crit chance with fury and food up.

I’d love some critiques of the build So far its run amazingly in dungeons.

You should swap 10 earth for 25 water + 5air. More damage bonus, you’ll have more than 3 boons in a dungeon.

Also I think you’ll be happy to hear your “60% Damage increase at virtually all times” is 78% bonus. And 113% when everything is rocking. (i used 3 boons, with 25 water version – 6%, and assumed force working, havent tested.)
Damage bonuses are multiplied, not added.

Interesting!

Will the boon damage increase more than make up for the 5% damage buff and toughness losses from earth along with losing the crit chance/damage from air?

Spec would be 25/20/0/25/0. So you would gain 5 points in air = dmg boost. And swap earth 5% boost for 6-10% from water. So all positive.

And someone was saying about the 20% dmg boost. Yeah only in water, but that’s the point, you stay in water attunument with conjured weapons.

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Posted by: Swiftwynd.1685

Swiftwynd.1685

Hey guys.

Based on this thread, and a very weird, vivid dream I had, I ended up making a very similar build that is both durable, supporty, and probably the highest damage any profession in an ideal group. Here is the full build on Guru

Its focused on using damage amplification, crit damage, self-healing over time, and lastly a little bit of toughness. Obviously if you went pure zerker on the jewelry it would pump out more damage, but I don’t feel like I’m missing much with Cavalier’s exotics with ex. Ruby jewels.

In an ideal scenario, you get either 55% or 60% bonus damage, and up to 80% once foe goes bellow <33% HP, while having around 70% or more crit chance with fury and food up.

I’d love some critiques of the build So far its run amazingly in dungeons.

You should swap 10 earth for 25 water + 5air. More damage bonus, you’ll have more than 3 boons in a dungeon.

Also I think you’ll be happy to hear your “60% Damage increase at virtually all times” is 78% bonus. And 113% when everything is rocking. (i used 3 boons, with 25 water version – 6%, and assumed force working, havent tested.)
Damage bonuses are multiplied, not added.

Interesting!

Will the boon damage increase more than make up for the 5% damage buff and toughness losses from earth along with losing the crit chance/damage from air?

Spec would be 25/20/0/25/0. So you would gain 5 points in air = dmg boost. And swap earth 5% boost for 6-10% from water. So all positive.

And someone was saying about the 20% dmg boost. Yeah only in water, but that’s the point, you stay in water attunument with conjured weapons.

Nice, ill give this a try, although the extra bit of toughness is useful from earth, the health and healing gained from water should more than make up for it since im using Cavalier’s in my accessories.

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Posted by: Swiftwynd.1685

Swiftwynd.1685

Or just run bunker specced s/d and stack 25 might on your entire team. You’ll heal their bars more than their own healing skills and they’ll simply melt everything for you. Your own damage will be great too once you get your stacks going.

ANNND thats not what this is about

If you have external sources of might, burning, and vulnerability, this will be the highest damage you can personally ever put out in gw2 (likely i believe but I’d need comparisons).

That is to say, while you could be the groups might stacker, nothing wrong with another ele or other profession fulfilling that role. Additionally, this spec can STILL reach 25 might stacks for the group by itself if others provide fire fields.

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Posted by: Eliteseraph.4970

Eliteseraph.4970

Or just run bunker specced s/d and stack 25 might on your entire team. You’ll heal their bars more than their own healing skills and they’ll simply melt everything for you. Your own damage will be great too once you get your stacks going.

I’d be interested in seeing a detailed breakdown of that build, with gear. Is there a quick link to it, or can you post it here?

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Posted by: Leuca.5732

Leuca.5732

Or just run bunker specced s/d and stack 25 might on your entire team. You’ll heal their bars more than their own healing skills and they’ll simply melt everything for you. Your own damage will be great too once you get your stacks going.

ANNND thats not what this is about

If you have external sources of might, burning, and vulnerability, this will be the highest damage you can personally ever put out in gw2 (likely i believe but I’d need comparisons).

That is to say, while you could be the groups might stacker, nothing wrong with another ele or other profession fulfilling that role. Additionally, this spec can STILL reach 25 might stacks for the group by itself if others provide fire fields.

Of course this is what it’s about. He’s doing a LOT of damage with huge might stacks on constant uptime, and healing the crap out of his team. That sounds pretty optimal compared to some one trick pony build that attempts to blow things up but dies if it gets blinked at. He said he wanted optimal; the fact is that ele traits aren’t great in Fire Magic, and mediocre once you get to grandmaster Air traits, leaving him with the ability to stack lots of boons and get a damage increase per boon while increasing his survivability by a crap-ton.

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Posted by: Leuca.5732

Leuca.5732

Or just run bunker specced s/d and stack 25 might on your entire team. You’ll heal their bars more than their own healing skills and they’ll simply melt everything for you. Your own damage will be great too once you get your stacks going.

I’d be interested in seeing a detailed breakdown of that build, with gear. Is there a quick link to it, or can you post it here?

At least 25 in Water Magic and 30 in Arcana and you’re pretty much set. I put knight’s stats on my ele for more critical hits+toughness since healing is already crazy good on s/d. Scepter of Bloodlust and Dagger of either Energy or Battle; your preference.

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Posted by: Wenrolio.8063

Wenrolio.8063

Cool!

I had a thought like this a little while back, but then I got distracted from leveling my elementalist to 80.

I have been theory crafting a 20/25/0/10/15 build using quick glyphs, inscription, the +20% to vulnerable enemies in water attunement, and the +10 conjured weapon charges. The arcane points could go into earth for the free earth armor at 50% hp or be used for arcane shield at 25% if you wanted to move them around.

My thought was to might stack with the scepter/fire field combo, summon a lightning hammer, then switch to water and get regen from inscription/elemental harmony, vulnerability from crits, chilled from glyph of elemental power, +20% dmg from the vulnerability (I’m not sure that it works for summoned weapons, but I hope so), and whack away at things. My elite is an elemental and I have the glyph of lesser elementals as well – 2 ice elementals help with healing and drop ice fields for the hammer’s 3rd chain blast finisher/blind to give you an aura.

The build so far at lvl 44 is pretty squishy though. It is totally balanced out for me with the fun of just smashing things with a hammer. The auto attack damage is pretty high all by itself. I would say it’s a pve only build.

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Posted by: Eliteseraph.4970

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At least 25 in Water Magic and 30 in Arcana and you’re pretty much set. I put knight’s stats on my ele for more critical hits+toughness since healing is already crazy good on s/d. Scepter of Bloodlust and Dagger of either Energy or Battle; your preference.

Not exactly ‘detailed’, but I think I get the general idea. Thanks!

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Posted by: Leuca.5732

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At least 25 in Water Magic and 30 in Arcana and you’re pretty much set. I put knight’s stats on my ele for more critical hits+toughness since healing is already crazy good on s/d. Scepter of Bloodlust and Dagger of either Energy or Battle; your preference.

Not exactly ‘detailed’, but I think I get the general idea. Thanks!

It doesn’t need to be super detailed; as long as your toughness/power are relatively high, the healing will take care of itself because of your traits. I just like knight’s stats because it gets decent precision. You can opt to use Soldier, Cleric, etc.