Guild Wars 2

Today announced changes for the next update, and the elementist was harmed some more time they decreed the end of FGS and made other changes of little or no relevance, so I wonder is it really worth playing with a character other than the thief ? because today the light are just punching bags while the Arena Net makes the thief to be a God should rename the game to “die for one thief”

ele still does most dmg in game, and its aoe.

still can mightstack

still have 2 waerfields

etc

Know what’s funny? Even with the nerf FGS is the best Elite. Firestorm and whirl are still good, and Rush and whirl will make it good as an escape tool in wvw.

Either way it’s by far better than Tornado, and Glyph of Elementals (unless you’re soloing, then Glyph is okay)

Devildoc.6721:

Know what’s funny? Even with the nerf FGS is the best Elite. Firestorm and whirl are still good, and Rush and whirl will make it good as an escape tool in wvw.

Either way it’s by far better than Tornado, and Glyph of Elementals (unless you’re soloing, then Glyph is okay)

the glyph gets a nice buff tho, the elemental will have a 6 k heal on demand

This is a joke thread right?

Celestina.2894:

This is a joke thread right?

At first I thought it was serious but after what he said about thieves?! (free loot bags)
He is obviously trolling…

Wyrden.4713:

Devildoc.6721:

Know what’s funny? Even with the nerf FGS is the best Elite. Firestorm and whirl are still good, and Rush and whirl will make it good as an escape tool in wvw.

Either way it’s by far better than Tornado, and Glyph of Elementals (unless you’re soloing, then Glyph is okay)

the glyph gets a nice buff tho, the elemental will have a 6 k heal on demand

In group content your elemental gets absolutely demolished, so no, not all that useful.

It can’t dodge, and scaled bosses/dungeon bosses do really high damage that pretty much is dodge or die.

I am saying that the changes are not good because not improved just took one of the useful things that was the FGS

(sorry for the mistakes of English if it was what I meant, I wrote right in my own language, but the google translator is not so good.)

Devildoc.6721:

Wyrden.4713:

Devildoc.6721:

Know what’s funny? Even with the nerf FGS is the best Elite. Firestorm and whirl are still good, and Rush and whirl will make it good as an escape tool in wvw.

Either way it’s by far better than Tornado, and Glyph of Elementals (unless you’re soloing, then Glyph is okay)

the glyph gets a nice buff tho, the elemental will have a 6 k heal on demand

In group content your elemental gets absolutely demolished, so no, not all that useful.

It can’t dodge, and scaled bosses/dungeon bosses do really high damage that pretty much is dodge or die.

Welcome to being a ranger, except that’s your class mechanic and they plan on doing nothing about fixing it :\

For wvw roaming this is still the number one elite. For pve stacking, glyph of storm will take its place.

DeceiverX.8361:

Devildoc.6721:

Wyrden.4713:

Devildoc.6721:

Know what’s funny? Even with the nerf FGS is the best Elite. Firestorm and whirl are still good, and Rush and whirl will make it good as an escape tool in wvw.

Either way it’s by far better than Tornado, and Glyph of Elementals (unless you’re soloing, then Glyph is okay)

the glyph gets a nice buff tho, the elemental will have a 6 k heal on demand

In group content your elemental gets absolutely demolished, so no, not all that useful.

It can’t dodge, and scaled bosses/dungeon bosses do really high damage that pretty much is dodge or die.

Welcome to being a ranger, except that’s your class mechanic and they plan on doing nothing about fixing it :\

I feel for you there, I really do, that’s the #1 reason I don’t play ranger.

Mesmer involves a lot of NPC’s as well too but at least phantasms are on fairly short cooldowns.

Devildoc.6721:

Wyrden.4713:

Devildoc.6721:

Know what’s funny? Even with the nerf FGS is the best Elite. Firestorm and whirl are still good, and Rush and whirl will make it good as an escape tool in wvw.

Either way it’s by far better than Tornado, and Glyph of Elementals (unless you’re soloing, then Glyph is okay)

the glyph gets a nice buff tho, the elemental will have a 6 k heal on demand

In group content your elemental gets absolutely demolished, so no, not all that useful.

It can’t dodge, and scaled bosses/dungeon bosses do really high damage that pretty much is dodge or die.

i do think the water ele is gonna be neat, u summon, use the heal asap, couldnt care less what happens to it anymore, if it happens to survive 15 or 25 seconds, u can use the heal again

On demand 6k heal and 25 stacks of vulnerability glyph will become meta until nerfed.

Think of a 48 seconds glyph of storms, with our eles having a 30% condition duration investment from the fire traitline. That’s about 10 seconds of vulnerability. You can pretty much have perma 25 stacks of vulnerability with 5 eles, although I’m not sure how viable that strategy might be. Depending on how long the bosses last in dungeons, one, two or three eles with GoS might become meta. Vulnerability builds from other professions will become pointless when you can bring a single utility for that.

Alot of ways to get vulnerability so you can passively stack it in some groups. I am curious how much damage fiery rushes leap will do now that it is 140% more damage. It could be the hardest hitting ele skill now and it has a 10s cd. Thinking it may be in the 6-10k crit damage range.

Ulion.5476:

Alot of ways to get vulnerability so you can passively stack it in some groups. I am curious how much damage fiery rushes leap will do now that it is 140% more damage. It could be the hardest hitting ele skill now and it has a 10s cd. Thinking it may be in the 6-10k crit damage range.

considering it hits for about 3.5-4k now, I’d say 6k is a reasonable estimate, but not 10k.

Apparently it’ll be increased by 140%.

Therefore 4k x 2.4 = 9600.

Burst FGS ele meta incoming, especially with a 25 vuln stacker.

Devildoc.6721:

Ulion.5476:

Alot of ways to get vulnerability so you can passively stack it in some groups. I am curious how much damage fiery rushes leap will do now that it is 140% more damage. It could be the hardest hitting ele skill now and it has a 10s cd. Thinking it may be in the 6-10k crit damage range.

considering it hits for about 3.5-4k now, I’d say 6k is a reasonable estimate, but not 10k.

You do realise that if it does 3.5-4k now it will be doing 140% more damage after the patch and not just 40% more? It actualy will be doing more damage then churning earth making it our strongest attack and the second most powerfull attack in the entire game (after killshot) on a short cooldown and even without a channel. Imagine this in the hands of a ranger who can buff it with another 75% and the 25 vulnerability stacks from the new lightning storm.

Blazinflames.8415:

Devildoc.6721:

Ulion.5476:

Alot of ways to get vulnerability so you can passively stack it in some groups. I am curious how much damage fiery rushes leap will do now that it is 140% more damage. It could be the hardest hitting ele skill now and it has a 10s cd. Thinking it may be in the 6-10k crit damage range.

considering it hits for about 3.5-4k now, I’d say 6k is a reasonable estimate, but not 10k.

You do realise that if it does 3.5-4k now it will be doing 140% more damage after the patch and not just 40% more? It actualy will be doing more damage then churning earth making it our strongest attack and the second most powerfull attack in the entire game (after killshot) on a short cooldown and even without a channel. Imagine this in the hands of a ranger who can buff it with another 75% and the 25 vulnerability stacks from the new lightning storm.

The numbers I saw being dealt in the video wasn’t anywhere close. I’m going to say 6k still.

DeceiverX.8361:

Apparently it’ll be increased by 140%.

Therefore 4k x 2.4 = 9600.

Burst FGS ele meta incoming, especially with a 25 vuln stacker.

Oh my goodness did they really mean an extra 140% and not that it ll do 1.4 tmes the damage it did???? ?? ?
Seriosuly with 10 sec cd plust the mobility of the whole skillset and n3 potentially doing crazy numbers paired with a timed backwards lightning flash or faced against a wall.. it ll be the best choice for s/f ele
In pvp scenarios you rarely if ever used number 4 BROKEN dps unless you abused it for killing neutrals or gates/lord. Now i ll be really really kittened if some random bunker guard picks my second little flaming beauty from the ground

Btw glyph did 25 inuln on stationary big golem that sat there for whole duration plus we dont know weather that build had 5 minor in air etc.I dont think it ll be worth it in real pvp scenarios.
And whats that about a 6k glyph aoe heal on demand every 25 sec?? Lol.. then again mesmer is getting a ticket to god mode so anything should be expected

fgs – fiery rush is nerfed in damage of the fire lines but increased the leap damage, still you can do more damage with the fire lines asuming you can create at least 4 lines because you can no longer stack them on the same area, what means 1 buff – 2 nerfs,
THX A LOT ANET (BTW THAT WAS SARCASM)

I know what you mean. I also saw that the damage numbers in the live stream weren’t that high. But if you pause at the beginning you’ll see that the tooltip of fiercy rush describes an damage of 2555 (or something) on the leap and 85 on the fire trail. I’ve also compared the current fgs with the new one using the same build they showed when demonstrating the changes 2 the arcana grandmaster trait and they indeed increased it by 140% (1064 × 2.4 = 2553.6). Besides the damage I do with a glass build already would have been higher then what we saw during the preview. (And they decreased the trail damage by 70% (278 × 0.3 = 83.4))