Guild Wars 2

we can talk sustain dmg all we want, but the only parts you need fgs are slave driver and final boss, so the 180s cd doesnt matter what so ever. i am also going to say eles will out dps a war in sustained dmg too. only downside is low health bar, and cloth doesnt matter. yes, i know they are on a wall, but the bosses in cof can also be put on a wall- talk talk talk! be constructive too

Shhhhhhh stop spreading the FGS trick or it’ll be nerfed:p

Really though, it’s very limited because of the wal thing as you said. Somehow I feel like it’ll be hard to convince pugs they should be luring it to a wall as well. When you can apply it though, it’s a very powerful trick.

11k damage on my ele is not a rare thing while using S/D 30/30/0/10 build, I also have almost permanent fury, and the 180cd and cloth armor is a major problem, there is also the fact that eles don’t have offensive support, basically, we’ll need someone to carry us, like a guardian. 3 eles, 1 guard and a mesmer run… there is also the fact that we can;t quickly defeat the effigy or the gate

Bismuth.3165:

11k damage on my ele is not a rare thing while using S/D 30/30/0/10 build, I also have almost permanent fury, and the 180cd and cloth armor is a major problem, there is also the fact that eles don’t have offensive support, basically, we’ll need someone to carry us, like a guardian. 3 eles, 1 guard and a mesmer run… there is also the fact that we can;t quickly defeat the effigy or the gate

the 180 cd is NOT a problem, the cloth is also NOT a problem. its the healthbase which is the problem. wars are just as squishy as eles when geared for zerk and having a guard isnt a must. guards should probly also start to be incorporated too as they give a lot of might and can stop whole wipes., but this is ele talk.
EDIT: i can line up on the gate with my fgs and take down gate faster than a war too- the effigy can be pulled on a wall as well.

It’s more of a cultural thing, and having 7.5k extra health while taking 15% less dmg does make a MASSIVE difference in reliability (dodge, healing is loss of dps… and fastest times are done without them).

In any case, 3 ele, 1 war, 1 mesmer prolly could make the top time for CoF1 altho waiting takes most of the time in that dungeon, more dps doesn’t push it too much faster. Blink+fiery rush at the start of last boss, quickness popped for second fiery rush and then all fire S&D.

If anyone wondering, that should be 70 or so ticks from fieryrush. With the video damage, lets say 70% crit chance with fury. Thats around 49×2600 + 21×1000 = 148k dmg (just guessing around +110% crit dmg). That should be 4 times more than full hundred blades on same mob with same stats as video.

Necro pet rush can do the same thing… or any of that sort of movement ability can if aimed at a wall.

ARM.3912:

Necro pet rush can do the same thing… or any of that sort of movement ability can if aimed at a wall.

Unfortunately no such skill comes anywhere near doing similar amount of damage, nor with such low cooldown and accuracy (+ possibility to do it without a wall with blink).

I’ve done the whole wall FGS3 in pvp before. The best 1 I landed was on a thief who happened to immobilize me when I had the FGS out …. big mistake

Bismuth.3165:

11k damage on my ele is not a rare thing while using S/D 30/30/0/10 build, I also have almost permanent fury, and the 180cd and cloth armor is a major problem, there is also the fact that eles don’t have offensive support, basically, we’ll need someone to carry us, like a guardian. 3 eles, 1 guard and a mesmer run… there is also the fact that we can;t quickly defeat the effigy or the gate

That ability has a 5 secs cd though.

and again people can t understand what a situational skill is
And why the build is bad.

mostly because you don t have a wall behind cof boss and that will prevent you o do much dps.

P.S: downside is being locked out of your skill AND being unable to interact with stuff AND that if you get downed, mistform or anything you lose conjured.
And the lack of support ofc
But also that ele using hammer and fgs is a bad copy of a warrior :|

Also FGS nerf incoming.

Byron, no need for a wall. Just FGS 4 without target and teleport onto the boss. With good timing you will run on the spot dealing all the damage. No wall needed.

Some of you need to delete your posts before something gets changed. Seriously.

covenn.7165:

Some of you need to delete your posts before something gets changed. Seriously.

I second this. Remember what happened to d/d? Then again, they only balance for pvp right?

yep infact they will never nerf GS4 they will nerf fgs3

i didn t knew the fgs 4 stuff i need to try it btw its still a bad excuse for a profession being locked in 5 skills from other professions…

(i mean its unfun)

I just hate conjured.

Rush timed right can down a player from full health in 2 seconds. That puts the burst in line with that of a thief in zerker gear getting full opening rotation on you. Is it OP in comparison considering it takes and elite + utility to use… no. However, we seem to get anything nerfed that approaches on thief capability (mobility / ability to chose fights, escape, etc.).

It’s a lot harder to pull off on an actual person though, unless they’re dumb enough to pin themselves to a wall and/or stand in the fire. Closest you can get to making it reliable is signet of earth + lightning flash.

Also, there’s the issue of retaliation. The damage comes from a huge number of hits. I tried it out earlier, and a guardian popped retaliation for his ally, downing me and bringing himself to ~20% hp (granted I wasn’t full glass, so if I was he’d probably have gone down first).
…but yeah, good chance of it being nerfed anyway. Even if we can’t do other things with the FGS on.

If fiery greatsword gets nerfed it will be to remove the mobility aspect. I could see them halfing #3’s distance saying it was a bug.

Nerfing FGS for its mobility would be sad considering that it is an elite.

If Fgs mobility skills get nerf then I will finally agree that every other ele that is not from the norm race will be in a major jeopardy in wvw.

Speaking of the mobility nerf, that’s also going to mean a damage nerf as well right?

Navzar.2938:

Shhhhhhh stop spreading the FGS trick or it’ll be nerfed:p

Really though, it’s very limited because of the wal thing as you said. Somehow I feel like it’ll be hard to convince pugs they should be luring it to a wall as well. When you can apply it though, it’s a very powerful trick.

you don’t need a wall, you can do that with Lightning Flash.

Shar.3402:

Navzar.2938:

Shhhhhhh stop spreading the FGS trick or it’ll be nerfed:p

Really though, it’s very limited because of the wal thing as you said. Somehow I feel like it’ll be hard to convince pugs they should be luring it to a wall as well. When you can apply it though, it’s a very powerful trick.

you don’t need a wall, you can do that with Lightning Flash.

That’s awesome if you can pull that off

People have been doing that in tPvP for months :P

eles will never, ever replace warriors for cof.

1. People are slow to change.
2. People have already put the time in to create their uber farming warz.
3. FGS with a glass cannon ele requires thought. Hundred Blades on a glass cannon mouth breathing knuckle dragger does not.

Shar.3402:

Navzar.2938:

Shhhhhhh stop spreading the FGS trick or it’ll be nerfed:p

Really though, it’s very limited because of the wal thing as you said. Somehow I feel like it’ll be hard to convince pugs they should be luring it to a wall as well. When you can apply it though, it’s a very powerful trick.

you don’t need a wall, you can do that with Lightning Flash.

Yeah Blimm mentioned that near the beginning/mid of the thread :p

As for the changing from warriors thing, I don’t think the general populations will do it, but if enough eles get together you can still have a decent number of people doing ele runs. That could be enough for people to realize eles are an option after a while.

Lasty, I think mobility nerf will just be a decrease to the skill range (maybe increase to cd as well) and less range will mean less fire trail= less damage. So we’ll have to see how that plays out.