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Posted by: Highvoltage.7946

Highvoltage.7946

I’m gonna be playing d/d ele and staff also. Mainly for dungeons and the occasional wvw. With all the ele buffs we get on attunement’s and stuff what should my crit number be at? currently at 19% thanks

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Posted by: ThiBash.5634

ThiBash.5634

For staff, I’d use power instead as your base damage is pretty low so multiplying it will do relatively little.

On daggers, I’d say 19% is decent. It’ll translate to almost 40% with fury and that seems a decent amount to me.

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Posted by: wertyuio.8630

wertyuio.8630

it all depends on what build you’re using. if you’re using knight’s gear, i believe you should have something around 30% crit. if you’re going full zerker, it’s easily 50-60% crit. if you’re using full soldier (power/vit/toughness), you should have 0% crit.

you can factor in the fury + swiftness boon from your arcana trait line… that’s another 20% for 3 seconds after attunement swap.

that being said… crit chance isn’t a major factors for eles to consider. it’s more of a niche more suited for glass cannon warriors and thieves. instead, you should be asking yourself how much power, toughness, and vitality you have.

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

it all depends on what build you’re using. if you’re using knight’s gear, i believe you should have something around 30% crit. if you’re going full zerker, it’s easily 50-60% crit. if you’re using full soldier (power/vit/toughness), you should have 0% crit.

you can factor in the fury + swiftness boon from your arcana trait line… that’s another 20% for 3 seconds after attunement swap.

that being said… crit chance isn’t a major factors for eles to consider. it’s more of a niche more suited for glass cannon warriors and thieves. instead, you should be asking yourself how much power, toughness, and vitality you have.

If you’re talking about crit chance only (and I assume so), knight’s gear gives same amouont of precison as zerker (and even more on jewels). Also, even with 916 precison you have basic 4% chance for crit.

Crits aren’t niche for warrior and thieves. You must be playing different game if you think so. There are a lot of traits and sigils proccing on critical hits that increase your survivability more than stacking toughness/vitality.

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Posted by: ThiBash.5634

ThiBash.5634

There are a lot of traits and sigils proccing on critical hits that increase your survivability more than stacking toughness/vitality.

Yeah, but they share a cooldown with Sigil of Battle, which is hard to pass up on. 315 power & condition damage or 30% to gain 370ish health every 10 seconds? Hmm…

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Posted by: Knox.3748

Knox.3748

it all depends on what build you’re using. if you’re using knight’s gear, i believe you should have something around 30% crit. if you’re going full zerker, it’s easily 50-60% crit. if you’re using full soldier (power/vit/toughness), you should have 0% crit.

you can factor in the fury + swiftness boon from your arcana trait line… that’s another 20% for 3 seconds after attunement swap.

that being said… crit chance isn’t a major factors for eles to consider. it’s more of a niche more suited for glass cannon warriors and thieves. instead, you should be asking yourself how much power, toughness, and vitality you have.

Numbers on WvW:

15k HP
2700 tough
3300 Atack
29% crit chance.

I have this doubt as well. I use staff as well but i dunno if i should go all berserk or stay with more vita and tough

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Posted by: Marius.8052

Marius.8052

it all depends on what build you’re using. if you’re using knight’s gear, i believe you should have something around 30% crit. if you’re going full zerker, it’s easily 50-60% crit. if you’re using full soldier (power/vit/toughness), you should have 0% crit.

you can factor in the fury + swiftness boon from your arcana trait line… that’s another 20% for 3 seconds after attunement swap.

that being said… crit chance isn’t a major factors for eles to consider. it’s more of a niche more suited for glass cannon warriors and thieves. instead, you should be asking yourself how much power, toughness, and vitality you have.

What’s up with all this false info being spread around forums.

Plain and simple crit is important, for any class. Most MMOs put a soft-hard cap of 45%-50% for critical because of how useful it can be. I try to shoot for around that. It’s easy with D/D Aura/Might stack Ele because you have dam near perma fury. Also you need is a warr or something in the party and you are good to go.

If you are not pushing crit, you are 1) losing a lot of damage, 2) losing a lot of procs on sigils, 3) losing a lot of procs from beneficial boons you could have up which can 4) potentially make you lose even more damage if you are 25 into water, 5) do I need to say more?

PS: Try running a perma-vigor set up with crit. You can thank me later.

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Posted by: Highvoltage.7946

Highvoltage.7946

it all depends on what build you’re using. if you’re using knight’s gear, i believe you should have something around 30% crit. if you’re going full zerker, it’s easily 50-60% crit. if you’re using full soldier (power/vit/toughness), you should have 0% crit.

you can factor in the fury + swiftness boon from your arcana trait line… that’s another 20% for 3 seconds after attunement swap.

that being said… crit chance isn’t a major factors for eles to consider. it’s more of a niche more suited for glass cannon warriors and thieves. instead, you should be asking yourself how much power, toughness, and vitality you have.

What’s up with all this false info being spread around forums.

Plain and simple crit is important, for any class. Most MMOs put a soft-hard cap of 45%-50% for critical because of how useful it can be. I try to shoot for around that. It’s easy with D/D Aura/Might stack Ele because you have dam near perma fury. Also you need is a warr or something in the party and you are good to go.

If you are not pushing crit, you are 1) losing a lot of damage, 2) losing a lot of procs on sigils, 3) losing a lot of procs from beneficial boons you could have up which can 4) potentially make you lose even more damage if you are 25 into water, 5) do I need to say more?

PS: Try running a perma-vigor set up with crit. You can thank me later.

anyway you can post your traits and gear set up? at 19% i def dont feel like i’m hitting like I should. Surviving just fine though, so might go for more crit/crit dmg instead of cd. My healing is almost 800 thinking bout bringing it down to 650-700ish too

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Posted by: Rexx.1805

Rexx.1805

Hi! I agree with those that say crit is important and that is especially true for an Ele. However, don’t go all the way. In my opinion if you go for a crit chance above 40% (without fury) you sacrifice to much in other stats.

I run S/D & Staff. I use Knight’s Armor with Scholar Runes. Weapons are also Knight’s with Sup Sigil of Fire & Precision on Kill. For Jewel’s i use Beryl ones.

With that setup you get nice levels of Tough/Vit/Power/Precision & Crit Damage.

I Trait Air, Water & Arcane. I have perma Vigor (Renewing Stamina), high upkeep of boons like Regen, Swift & Prot (Ele Attunement) and some more defensive traits in Water.

I run with 15-16k Hp & 1,5k Tough. My Crit chance is 33% (gets boosted to 45% due to Sigil) without fury. Crit damage is 60-65%. I survive nicely and i do some pretty big hits (8k Firegrab…4,5-5k Burning Tooth…2,5k Fireball…etc).

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Posted by: Nanoha.3892

Nanoha.3892

I have 9% crit chance. I wouldn’t worry too much about crit unless your class/build depends on it (on crit effects) and/or you have +crit damage to back it up.

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Posted by: Marius.8052

Marius.8052

it all depends on what build you’re using. if you’re using knight’s gear, i believe you should have something around 30% crit. if you’re going full zerker, it’s easily 50-60% crit. if you’re using full soldier (power/vit/toughness), you should have 0% crit.

you can factor in the fury + swiftness boon from your arcana trait line… that’s another 20% for 3 seconds after attunement swap.

that being said… crit chance isn’t a major factors for eles to consider. it’s more of a niche more suited for glass cannon warriors and thieves. instead, you should be asking yourself how much power, toughness, and vitality you have.

What’s up with all this false info being spread around forums.

Plain and simple crit is important, for any class. Most MMOs put a soft-hard cap of 45%-50% for critical because of how useful it can be. I try to shoot for around that. It’s easy with D/D Aura/Might stack Ele because you have dam near perma fury. Also you need is a warr or something in the party and you are good to go.

If you are not pushing crit, you are 1) losing a lot of damage, 2) losing a lot of procs on sigils, 3) losing a lot of procs from beneficial boons you could have up which can 4) potentially make you lose even more damage if you are 25 into water, 5) do I need to say more?

PS: Try running a perma-vigor set up with crit. You can thank me later.

anyway you can post your traits and gear set up? at 19% i def dont feel like i’m hitting like I should. Surviving just fine though, so might go for more crit/crit dmg instead of cd. My healing is almost 800 thinking bout bringing it down to 650-700ish too

I currently have 2 sets of gear I use, working on a 3rd and 4th (condition damage and one for Scepter/Dagger).

Set 1 is Valkyrie armor and weaps mixed with Berzerker jewelry. Power/Vit runes with Battle and Force sigils.

Set 2 is AC armor and weapons with Knight’s jewelry. 30% boon duration on runes with 2x Superior Water, 2x Superior Monk and 2x Major Monk (I think, forget which one). Obviously not my damage set. Same sigils as above.

I’m around 26% crit without fury on both sets. 800 healing imo is way too high. Anywhere around 400 is okay I think. Ele heals on all weapon sets are total kitten anyway, no point focusing on it. They did a terrible job on our heal abilities especially with staff. Used to be better with Evasive Arcana.

Here’s traits and utilities: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEEQJAoYhEmKbxx5gjFAkHn4SJhCKMKIiowDlCzA

If you wanted more damage, you can swap out the 10 in Earth for 10 more in Air (bolt to Heart), or if you have trouble dodging go 10 in arcane for vigor on crits.

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Posted by: maddoctor.2738

maddoctor.2738

I have around 43% and get to 63% with Fury, I like crits and I almost always use 20 points in Air.

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Posted by: Narhim.7345

Narhim.7345

I am playing crit-dps / support D/D in PvE and WvW mostly, with 0-25-0-15-30 = 51% crit.
Working so far good for me…

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Posted by: Knox.3748

Knox.3748

Changing build from 30 Fire, 10 Air and 30 Arcana to 30 Fire, 20 Air, 10 Water and 10 Arcana. Between runes of scholar and eagle, what do u think i should use on my ele?

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Posted by: Waraxx.4286

Waraxx.4286

I am playing crit-dps / support D/D in PvE and WvW mostly, with 0-25-0-15-30 = 51% crit.
Working so far good for me…

me to :P but i have 0/20/0/20/30 i think the 20% cd reduction in water is worth more than 5 points in air and 2 or 3 stacks of vulnerbility.

check out my build here ; http://en.gw2codex.com/build/22808-high-fotm-dungeon-build

its kind of a wall of text but if you manage to read it all please vote and comment :P

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Posted by: Waraxx.4286

Waraxx.4286

I am playing crit-dps / support D/D in PvE and WvW mostly, with 0-25-0-15-30 = 51% crit.
Working so far good for me…

me to :P but i play mainly fotm with it and i have 0/20/0/20/30. i think the 20% cd reduction in water is worth more than 5 points in air and 2 or 3 stacks of vulnerbility.

check out my build here ; http://en.gw2codex.com/build/22808-high-fotm-dungeon-build

its kind of a wall of text but if you manage to read it all please vote and comment :P

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Posted by: urinfamousr.7631

urinfamousr.7631

it all depends on what build you’re using. if you’re using knight’s gear, i believe you should have something around 30% crit. if you’re going full zerker, it’s easily 50-60% crit. if you’re using full soldier (power/vit/toughness), you should have 0% crit.

you can factor in the fury + swiftness boon from your arcana trait line… that’s another 20% for 3 seconds after attunement swap.

that being said… crit chance isn’t a major factors for eles to consider. it’s more of a niche more suited for glass cannon warriors and thieves. instead, you should be asking yourself how much power, toughness, and vitality you have.

Numbers on WvW:

15k HP
2700 tough
3300 Atack
29% crit chance.

I have this doubt as well. I use staff as well but i dunno if i should go all berserk or stay with more vita and tough

wut gear are you using for those stats?

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Posted by: Knox.3748

Knox.3748

I was using power tough vita. The major reason for that armor was the jewels. I was using the knight that gives u Power Prec and Tough. Now i changed to berserker, and omg what a good change. I have more power, more prec and 55 more crit dmg but my armor is now only 2200 wich is ok for an elementalist i think. NOw im stuck on runes only, divinity would be great, ogre and scholar sounds fine for me as well.

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Posted by: Minoru.1237

Minoru.1237

I’m sure 2700 toughness is a mistake. You mean 2700 armor.

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Posted by: Knox.3748

Knox.3748

Yep my mistake