Guild Wars 2

Superior Rune of Tormenting
+28 Condition Dmg
15% Torment Duration
+55% Condition dmg
15% Torment Duration
+100 Condition dmg
15% Torment Duration and AoE 2 Stacks of Torment on Heal (no cooldown)

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Med_Kit

There will be internal cd for sure

Holy Nerfbats, batman!

I don’t know where you saw there’s no cooldown, but if it works like the other rune bonus they’ll only let you use it once per 10 seconds or something. The rune of Dwayna works like that for +regeneration on heal skill use.

Holy crap, please no, this is a No-No rune to get out there. Torment is already bad enough, making it 100% uptime is just asking for the destruction of all mobile class.

Imo much more OP is that Confusion one:-)

Wait!!!! Do engineers have torment now??
Cause if so that would be amazing

JEFFARR.8163:

Wait!!!! Do engineers have torment now??
Cause if so that would be amazing

No but lol, look. Med Kit is a heal slot skill that you can swap to at will.

In theory, you should be putting 2 stacks of torment on people everytime you swap to med kit.

This is gonna be so kittenolololololo…..

So you’re going to run around a target only switching to medkit (possibly also using toolbelt skills) and take roughly 12-13 seconds to get your 25 stacks?

Obviously not. The stacks won’t last that long, and nobody will stand there for you while you just swap in and out of medkit. And, as others have mentioned, there is more than likely an ICD on it that just isn’t stated. (It’s like assuming the stacks are permanent because it doesn’t say how long they last.)

Now nerfed , and no it wasn’t an ICD.

new build: 20 sec icd
no other changes

>.>;;

There was no ICD but they’re adding one now.

Its really interesting to see this getting fixed so quickly but the entire team cant be bothered to look at turret bugs, say that they have seen it, or post any progress they have had on it. It seems they care as much about turrets as the rest of the world cares about south side chicago.

I don’t even understand the silence, its not like anyone would be disappointed to find out that they are working on bugs we hoped they were working on.

EXACTLY Super Riceman,
6 Updates to fix kitten in under 16 hours and they are NOT WILLING to fix the MAIN FUNCTIONALLITY of one of ther ingame classes.
Its redoky!

Legit Prep In.5893:

EXACTLY Super Riceman,
6 Updates to fix kitten in under 16 hours and they are NOT WILLING to fix the MAIN FUNCTIONALLITY of one of ther ingame classes.
Its redoky!

Yeah would be nice for an emergency patch to fix turrets now.

Legit Prep In.5893:

EXACTLY Super Riceman,
6 Updates to fix kitten in under 16 hours and they are NOT WILLING to fix the MAIN FUNCTIONALLITY of one of ther ingame classes.
Its redoky!

Turrets aren’t quite as game-breaking as permanently keeping 25 stacks of torment on someone. Also, how hard do you think adding an ICD to a rune set is? Not very.

Legit Prep In.5893:

MAIN FUNCTIONALLITY

Last I checked that was the toolbelt. I certainly only equip turrets for my sPvP setup, and I never ran into issues not having them equipped. If they’re the main functionality, then that’s news to me – and I suspect to a lot of players.

Shanks R Us.2489:

Legit Prep In.5893:

EXACTLY Super Riceman,
6 Updates to fix kitten in under 16 hours and they are NOT WILLING to fix the MAIN FUNCTIONALLITY of one of ther ingame classes.
Its redoky!

Turrets aren’t quite as game-breaking as permanently keeping 25 stacks of torment on someone. Also, how hard do you think adding an ICD to a rune set is? Not very.

Really? A signature ability Type is rendered pretty much obsolete. I would say, how is that Torment thing more gamebreaking?

-It applies just to Med Kit.
-Kit swapping has a short cooldown build into it.
-You need to just sit there and spam swapping medkit 13x to get 25stacks of torment. Thats easily 20+sec of just switching back and forth to medkit.
-All you got from this, is 25 stacks of Torment and little more. Where are your other conditions? Your direct damage? Your own defensive? Nothing, just 25 stacks of torment.

Hardly gamebreaking.

Here we go smarty,

Queen’s Jubilee

The Superior Rune of Tormenting’s effect of applying Torment on heal now has an internal cooldown of 20 seconds.

u know why we dont post anymore builds or videos here?

have fun

Brko.3079:

Here we go smarty,

Queen’s Jubilee

The Superior Rune of Tormenting’s effect of applying Torment on heal now has an internal cooldown of 20 seconds.

u know why we dont post anymore builds or videos here?

have fun

Yes, because it was so much less broken before someone posted a video of it, right? :P

No, because engi get destroyed with what ever is posted here.. broken or not, right? :P

I’d at least like it reduced to a 10-second cool down on the rune. It’d be a great F.U. to classes that freely control engi-kiters like me who have no real rebuttal.

Medkit swap > Antidote drop > Elixir S > Medkit toolbelt skill > [Beat up the bully]

Now who’s the tormentor ;D But it was kind of silly having no internal cool down since It’d be just torment duels between engies at the end of the day. I still think that, unless we get a similar trait or weapon ability, classes that can apply the condition normally can just equip these new runes and still beat us up.

I just wanted to make sure the rune was equally worthless to the rest of them. Lol.

Terrahero.9358:

Shanks R Us.2489:

Legit Prep In.5893:

EXACTLY Super Riceman,
6 Updates to fix kitten in under 16 hours and they are NOT WILLING to fix the MAIN FUNCTIONALLITY of one of ther ingame classes.
Its redoky!

Turrets aren’t quite as game-breaking as permanently keeping 25 stacks of torment on someone. Also, how hard do you think adding an ICD to a rune set is? Not very.

Really? A signature ability Type is rendered pretty much obsolete. I would say, how is that Torment thing more gamebreaking?

-It applies just to Med Kit.
-Kit swapping has a short cooldown build into it.
-You need to just sit there and spam swapping medkit 13x to get 25stacks of torment. Thats easily 20+sec of just switching back and forth to medkit.
-All you got from this, is 25 stacks of Torment and little more. Where are your other conditions? Your direct damage? Your own defensive? Nothing, just 25 stacks of torment.

Hardly gamebreaking.

I don’t know if you know, but I think the mesmer puts on the most stacks of torment at once, and it’s 5 stacks. That’s it. Even having over 10 stacks constantly on someone is ridiculous, especially considering all the other conditions engineers throw on.

Shanks R Us.2489:

Terrahero.9358:

Shanks R Us.2489:

Legit Prep In.5893:

EXACTLY Super Riceman,
6 Updates to fix kitten in under 16 hours and they are NOT WILLING to fix the MAIN FUNCTIONALLITY of one of ther ingame classes.
Its redoky!

Turrets aren’t quite as game-breaking as permanently keeping 25 stacks of torment on someone. Also, how hard do you think adding an ICD to a rune set is? Not very.

Really? A signature ability Type is rendered pretty much obsolete. I would say, how is that Torment thing more gamebreaking?

-It applies just to Med Kit.
-Kit swapping has a short cooldown build into it.
-You need to just sit there and spam swapping medkit 13x to get 25stacks of torment. Thats easily 20+sec of just switching back and forth to medkit.
-All you got from this, is 25 stacks of Torment and little more. Where are your other conditions? Your direct damage? Your own defensive? Nothing, just 25 stacks of torment.

Hardly gamebreaking.

I don’t know if you know, but I think the mesmer puts on the most stacks of torment at once, and it’s 5 stacks. That’s it. Even having over 10 stacks constantly on someone is ridiculous, especially considering all the other conditions engineers throw on.

The only way for an Engineer to be putting on any other conditions with this 25 stacks of torment are turrets while they literally just swapped in and out of medkit. Also, has anybody confirmed how long the stacks of Torment even last? I wouldn’t think that an Engineer would even be able to put out 25 stacks just because they would start falling off in the middle of them switching in and out of Medkit.

I do think it would have been a little dumb, but I wouldn’t say OP. If your entire game plan was doing this, anybody could easily just kite you and you wouldn’t get to have your fun anyway.

AlietteFaye.7316:

Shanks R Us.2489:

Terrahero.9358:

Shanks R Us.2489:

Legit Prep In.5893:

EXACTLY Super Riceman,
6 Updates to fix kitten in under 16 hours and they are NOT WILLING to fix the MAIN FUNCTIONALLITY of one of ther ingame classes.
Its redoky!

Turrets aren’t quite as game-breaking as permanently keeping 25 stacks of torment on someone. Also, how hard do you think adding an ICD to a rune set is? Not very.

Really? A signature ability Type is rendered pretty much obsolete. I would say, how is that Torment thing more gamebreaking?

-It applies just to Med Kit.
-Kit swapping has a short cooldown build into it.
-You need to just sit there and spam swapping medkit 13x to get 25stacks of torment. Thats easily 20+sec of just switching back and forth to medkit.
-All you got from this, is 25 stacks of Torment and little more. Where are your other conditions? Your direct damage? Your own defensive? Nothing, just 25 stacks of torment.

Hardly gamebreaking.

I don’t know if you know, but I think the mesmer puts on the most stacks of torment at once, and it’s 5 stacks. That’s it. Even having over 10 stacks constantly on someone is ridiculous, especially considering all the other conditions engineers throw on.

The only way for an Engineer to be putting on any other conditions with this 25 stacks of torment are turrets while they literally just swapped in and out of medkit. Also, has anybody confirmed how long the stacks of Torment even last? I wouldn’t think that an Engineer would even be able to put out 25 stacks just because they would start falling off in the middle of them switching in and out of Medkit.

I do think it would have been a little dumb, but I wouldn’t say OP. If your entire game plan was doing this, anybody could easily just kite you and you wouldn’t get to have your fun anyway.

I had 20 sec torment from these runes and they were brutal on my Mesmer. Really kitten ed off that Anet made a massive nerf instead of just adding a 10sec icd to med kit that only affects procs or even just 5 sec would have been fair imo. Anet strategy don’t fix broken game design nerf runes that made new builds fun and viable.

Varconi.1804:

AlietteFaye.7316:

Shanks R Us.2489:

Terrahero.9358:

Shanks R Us.2489:

Legit Prep In.5893:

EXACTLY Super Riceman,
6 Updates to fix kitten in under 16 hours and they are NOT WILLING to fix the MAIN FUNCTIONALLITY of one of ther ingame classes.
Its redoky!

Turrets aren’t quite as game-breaking as permanently keeping 25 stacks of torment on someone. Also, how hard do you think adding an ICD to a rune set is? Not very.

Really? A signature ability Type is rendered pretty much obsolete. I would say, how is that Torment thing more gamebreaking?

-It applies just to Med Kit.
-Kit swapping has a short cooldown build into it.
-You need to just sit there and spam swapping medkit 13x to get 25stacks of torment. Thats easily 20+sec of just switching back and forth to medkit.
-All you got from this, is 25 stacks of Torment and little more. Where are your other conditions? Your direct damage? Your own defensive? Nothing, just 25 stacks of torment.

Hardly gamebreaking.

I don’t know if you know, but I think the mesmer puts on the most stacks of torment at once, and it’s 5 stacks. That’s it. Even having over 10 stacks constantly on someone is ridiculous, especially considering all the other conditions engineers throw on.

The only way for an Engineer to be putting on any other conditions with this 25 stacks of torment are turrets while they literally just swapped in and out of medkit. Also, has anybody confirmed how long the stacks of Torment even last? I wouldn’t think that an Engineer would even be able to put out 25 stacks just because they would start falling off in the middle of them switching in and out of Medkit.

I do think it would have been a little dumb, but I wouldn’t say OP. If your entire game plan was doing this, anybody could easily just kite you and you wouldn’t get to have your fun anyway.

I had 20 sec torment from these runes and they were brutal on my Mesmer. Really kitten ed off that Anet made a massive nerf instead of just adding a 10sec icd to med kit that only affects procs or even just 5 sec would have been fair imo. Anet strategy don’t fix broken game design nerf runes that made new builds fun and viable.

20s of Torment is still pretty good, considering every skill that gives access to Torment is only 5-10s. I agree the nerf is a bit harsh, but perhaps they’ll lower it sometime soon. This was just a kneejerk reaction to them remembering Engineers are in the game. (Something they seem to forget a lot.)

AlietteFaye.7316:

I do think it would have been a little dumb, but I wouldn’t say OP. If your entire game plan was doing this, anybody could easily just kite you and you wouldn’t get to have your fun anyway.

>easily kite

Torment does extra damage if you move. Glue shot/magnet to hold in place.

Shanks R Us.2489:

Terrahero.9358:

Shanks R Us.2489:

Legit Prep In.5893:

EXACTLY Super Riceman,
6 Updates to fix kitten in under 16 hours and they are NOT WILLING to fix the MAIN FUNCTIONALLITY of one of ther ingame classes.
Its redoky!

Turrets aren’t quite as game-breaking as permanently keeping 25 stacks of torment on someone. Also, how hard do you think adding an ICD to a rune set is? Not very.

Really? A signature ability Type is rendered pretty much obsolete. I would say, how is that Torment thing more gamebreaking?

-It applies just to Med Kit.
-Kit swapping has a short cooldown build into it.
-You need to just sit there and spam swapping medkit 13x to get 25stacks of torment. Thats easily 20+sec of just switching back and forth to medkit.
-All you got from this, is 25 stacks of Torment and little more. Where are your other conditions? Your direct damage? Your own defensive? Nothing, just 25 stacks of torment.

Hardly gamebreaking.

I don’t know if you know, but I think the mesmer puts on the most stacks of torment at once, and it’s 5 stacks. That’s it. Even having over 10 stacks constantly on someone is ridiculous, especially considering all the other conditions engineers throw on.

But if you were putting up Torment by just switching to the Medkit over and over you arent putting up any other conditions. You arent doing anything because you’re just swapping kits.

Obviously it needed a fix, i dont have a problem with that, no one does. What i have a problem with is that this is getting hotfixed yet stuff that is broken against our favor has been left broken for over a month now. For example where is the hotfix for Turrets?

What is the radius for the AOE? Anyone know?

I’m surprised they pushed it back to 20. This was obviously an overreaction by Anet that will never get reversed, ruining the set.

10 second cooldown sounds more reasonable, since there are classes that heal every 12-15 seconds.

Rozbuska.5263:

There will be internal cd for sure

^reposted 4 emphasis

Legit Prep In.5893:

MAIN FUNCTIONALLITY

Wow….turrets are the MAIN FUNCTIONALITY of this class? Never used any of them (except healing) and really haven’t noticed I’m playing with the lower tier skills…

Seriously, I get what you are saying, but fixing something that could stack Torment (from more than just THIS class build) is a bit more game breaking and urgent.