A humble suggestion for Elixir X

A humble suggestion for Elixir X

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Posted by: PotatoOverdose.6583

PotatoOverdose.6583

Seeing this thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Elixir-X-trick-maybe-exploit gave me an idea.

Why not remove the tornado/brute from elixir x altogether? Make Elixir X grant +Health and Stability for 15 seconds.

Or maybe, even simpler, make it grant Stability, Protection (similar to the net effect of +health from brute, but much weaker) and a couple of stacks of might for 15-20 seconds.

Instead of getting stability, health, and a random chance to be situationally awesome or situationally useless, we just get stability and a bit less of a health buff or equivalent defensive buff. Increase the cooldown to 180 seconds if you must.

Thoughts?

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

I would personally not use Elixir X if they took away the random elite skill effect… the main reason i use it is because of how much control it provides me for 20-25 seconds, i mean cmon, rampaging brute is now activated like 75-80% of the time now because people were complaining that 50/50 wasn’t fair for an elite skill, pretty easy to go into a fight going “Oh i’m going to use it for brute” and then be pleasantly surprised with the better control and damage tornado skill.

If it were just +Health and Stability for 15 seconds that’d not only be a nerf, but that’d probably also butcher it and make it the worst elite skill in the game…

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Posted by: PotatoOverdose.6583

PotatoOverdose.6583

I would personally not use Elixir X if they took away the random elite skill effect… the main reason i use it is because of how much control it provides me for 20-25 seconds, i mean cmon, rampaging brute is now activated like 75-80% of the time now because people were complaining that 50/50 wasn’t fair for an elite skill, pretty easy to go into a fight going “Oh i’m going to use it for brute” and then be pleasantly surprised with the better control and damage tornado skill.

If it were just +Health and Stability for 15 seconds that’d not only be a nerf, but that’d probably also butcher it and make it the worst elite skill in the game…

Odd, considering that most users of elixir X used it pre-nerf when you could end the transform prematurely and keep the +stabillity for duration. Arenanet nerfed that, so obviously it wasn’t underpowered.

And now an exploit exists to do something very similar. Still, thank you for contributing your opinion.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

I would personally not use Elixir X if they took away the random elite skill effect… the main reason i use it is because of how much control it provides me for 20-25 seconds, i mean cmon, rampaging brute is now activated like 75-80% of the time now because people were complaining that 50/50 wasn’t fair for an elite skill, pretty easy to go into a fight going “Oh i’m going to use it for brute” and then be pleasantly surprised with the better control and damage tornado skill.

If it were just +Health and Stability for 15 seconds that’d not only be a nerf, but that’d probably also butcher it and make it the worst elite skill in the game…

Odd, considering that most users of elixir X used it pre-nerf when you could end the transform prematurely and keep the +stabillity for duration. Arenanet nerfed that, so obviously it wasn’t underpowered.

And now an exploit exists to do something very similar. Still, thank you for contributing your opinion.

Oh no no no, stability is quite a nice boon!! I’m saying AS AN ELITE SKILL it’d be nearly worthless, as a utility skill? Yeah that’d be nice, but as an elite skill i want more bang for my buck, and having super amounts of CC for 20-25 seconds every 96 seconds is a lot of bang for said buck…

They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: PotatoOverdose.6583

PotatoOverdose.6583

I would personally not use Elixir X if they took away the random elite skill effect… the main reason i use it is because of how much control it provides me for 20-25 seconds, i mean cmon, rampaging brute is now activated like 75-80% of the time now because people were complaining that 50/50 wasn’t fair for an elite skill, pretty easy to go into a fight going “Oh i’m going to use it for brute” and then be pleasantly surprised with the better control and damage tornado skill.

If it were just +Health and Stability for 15 seconds that’d not only be a nerf, but that’d probably also butcher it and make it the worst elite skill in the game…

Odd, considering that most users of elixir X used it pre-nerf when you could end the transform prematurely and keep the +stabillity for duration. Arenanet nerfed that, so obviously it wasn’t underpowered.

And now an exploit exists to do something very similar. Still, thank you for contributing your opinion.

Oh no no no, stability is quite a nice boon!! I’m saying AS AN ELITE SKILL it’d be nearly worthless, as a utility skill? Yeah that’d be nice, but as an elite skill i want more bang for my buck, and having super amounts of CC for 20-25 seconds every 96 seconds is a lot of bang for said buck…

Right, and I’m saying as an ELITE SKILL, elixir X saw most use (and was nerfed thereof) when you could get JUST stability and not be forced into brute/tornado.

Again, to reiterate, it seemed (from my limited sample size of engineer streams, pvp videos, guides, and those engineers I met in game) that elixir X was most popular when people could avoid brute/whirlwind and just get the 15 seconds of stabillity. Now that there’s a thread about another way to avoid brute/whirlwind (and It will be nerfed, I guarantee it), I thought I’d pose the question.

I certainly think 15 seconds of stability (with +health or some other defensive measure) would be a better elite than the current state of elixir X. There seem to be at least a few individuals of the same opinion currently, judging by the contents of the thread I linked in the first post.

I could be wrong though, just thought I’d get it out there.

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Posted by: ViperHoundz.3054

ViperHoundz.3054

Yeah , they just deleted all my post, so I guess it is an exploit..

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Posted by: ViperHoundz.3054

ViperHoundz.3054

Its going to be hard for them to nerf it, unless they change it. Since its ALLL about the weapon swap.

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Posted by: Yukishiro.8792

Yukishiro.8792

Could just make the cast time instant couldn’t they?

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Posted by: ViperHoundz.3054

ViperHoundz.3054

Yeah, they would have to remove the drink time/ or the transformation time. of the elixir X.