Guild Wars 2

Heya,

After the patch I read through the notes and peoples comments about the class and it all seems pretty negative.

The next class I was going to make was going to be engineer but I just wanna know if they are still worth making???

All I do is WVW small-group. Engi is still good there.

Yes. Absolutely.

Everyone is negative right after a patch. It always happens. They could have 15 buffs and 1 nerf, and all they will talk about is the nerf. Engi is fine.

First; PvE, PvP, WvW?
2nd: Much nerfs and issues are with scrapper, which is 80. Levelling esp PvE you’ll not feel nerfed really. It’s still very fun class, and one of my favs levelling.

I wish they fixed things engi needed fixing, turrets esp and defensive things. That’s also a lot of understandable crying is; that they did not address fundamental issues still.

Condi Engie technically got buffed, if PvE is your thing.

+1 second of burning on Poison Dart Volley and Fire Bomb per shot/pulse. It’s actually a pretty decent overall buff, but it doesn’t change the fact that maximum Engineer condition DPS is still pretty dependent on non-moving enemies. Reapers likely still have an edge over us thanks to epidemic bouncing, sadly.

Most of the anger is because Scrapper received a lot of nerfs, but for some reason rifle didn’t receive any worthwhile buffs. And despite clearly needing love, they did not even touch shield.

And their interpretation of “improving underused skills” was decreasing AED’s cool-down. PvP-wise, it went from a horribly unreliable skill with a ridiculous cool-down to a horribly unreliable skill with an okay-ish cool-down. However, I might use it in open-world PvE now, just because mobs are usually predictable and CC helps I guess.

Overall, I am extremely underwhelmed with the Engineer portion of the patch, but Meta-PvE-Condi Engineer has come out slightly stronger. Despite Meta-PvP-Scrapper receiving nerfs, we have to see how it fits in with other classes on a relative level. It might still be an extremely good class still. Though I have doubts.

Pretty much agreed with Eastcorn. Particularly on that last paragraph. We need to play around with the changes before anything can really be definitively said, and even that for a few weeks, as everyone monkeys around with the classes. This changes party dynamics and class counter dynamics (for pve and pvp respectively), and we won’t really get a good sense of where we are until everyone has settled into their new builds and strategies with what we have to work with now.

Note: Everyone=all professions

Condi Engi is now potentially the max dps in PvE against small hitboxes. Power is only average now and simply got nerfed for no reason at all.

But yea, considering PvE, Condi Engi definitly is a thing now!

For general PvE, the motto has always been play what you enjoy. Barring dealing with elitists about raids, you should be able to make the engineer work in any of that content. If you like it, play it

PvP/WvW-wise, the engineer is still pretty much in the same place that it was in before the nerfs. As noted in a few other topics, with the nerfs to the cast times on Medic Gyro and Reconstruction Field, the biggest change is that Healing Turret is pretty much back on top as the engineer’s best heal. This is true especially since the somewhat reliable regeneration application from Bunker Down was removed (which, for the life of me, I do not understand, but whatever), and having regeneration up can grant a small buff to healing power.

So, while the engineer did take some hefty hits with this patch (especially the power scrapper builds), the way the profession plays somewhat compensates for its losses. It is still pretty effective for doing what it has been doing. Fun in PvE, effective in PvP (especially with the swarm of DH pewpew as of late), and decent in WvW (at least if you are doing small group/roaming; it offers far less in a zerg but, then again, it’s a zerg).

That said, depending on your playstyle you may opt for a different profession that does what you like to do better.

Hope this helps

Etaoin.4362:

For general PvE, the motto has always been play what you enjoy. Barring dealing with elitists about raids, you should be able to make the engineer work in any of that content. If you like it, play it

You forgot high-level fractals and speedrun dungeons.

Xyonon.3987:

Condi Engi is now potentially the max dps in PvE against small hitboxes. Power is only average now and simply got nerfed for no reason at all.

But yea, considering PvE, Condi Engi definitly is a thing now!

Well, power engi (static discharge build with bombs, ram and rifle turret) is just behind thief. Pretty easy rotation.

bearshaman.3421:

Etaoin.4362:

For general PvE, the motto has always been play what you enjoy. Barring dealing with elitists about raids, you should be able to make the engineer work in any of that content. If you like it, play it

You forgot high-level fractals and speedrun dungeons.

Do folks have issues with engineers in high-level fractals? I haven’t encountered that, but if it’s an issue then, yes, that is a fair point.

I did forget about speed running dungeons, though, thanks

I don’t see why not.

Etaoin.4362:

bearshaman.3421:

Etaoin.4362:

For general PvE, the motto has always been play what you enjoy. Barring dealing with elitists about raids, you should be able to make the engineer work in any of that content. If you like it, play it

You forgot high-level fractals and speedrun dungeons.

Do folks have issues with engineers in high-level fractals? I haven’t encountered that, but if it’s an issue then, yes, that is a fair point.

I did forget about speed running dungeons, though, thanks

i run fractal lvl 70 and havent had a problem even once

Etaoin.4362:

bearshaman.3421:

Etaoin.4362:

For general PvE, the motto has always been play what you enjoy. Barring dealing with elitists about raids, you should be able to make the engineer work in any of that content. If you like it, play it

You forgot high-level fractals and speedrun dungeons.

Do folks have issues with engineers in high-level fractals? I haven’t encountered that, but if it’s an issue then, yes, that is a fair point.

I did forget about speed running dungeons, though, thanks

Condi builds are extremely viable in high level frogs due the amount of armor mobs have.

That’s what I was getting at. Condi builds are preferred at higher levels of fractals over power builds, regardless of profession. You can do power, but it’s suboptimal because of increasing amounts of toughness in fractal monsters/bosses.

Always and Forever.

Remember, updates can drastically change a class. Unless you want to instantly be 80 and be competitive in PvP or min/max raids; but you love engi otherwise, GO ENG.

For many ppl engi will be wonderful as is; if you’re levelling and aren’t gonna be 80 in two days, it’s great and open world PvE it’s great. Again, ppl cry now but look at classes from last patch or seasons, they get nerfed or get buffed and peeps cry for nerf. That’s how things are

In spvp engi is really good. Scrapper is really strong and also core engi is quite viable nowdays for casual players